Engine Oil?

ali_7890 · 25-10-2009, 12:47 AM

Havoline or Toyota Genuine Motor Oil.

Does it make any difference?

which one's better?

And what are those special oil for CNG?

panicslayer · 25-10-2009, 01:30 AM

IMHO, oil really doesn't make any difference unless you don't put this type of oils

http://www.pakwheels.com/forumreply_az_TopicID!111547~ForumID!21~pw.html

ansarghani · 25-10-2009, 02:39 AM

Try synthetic oil like entry level ZIC A+ or a bit expansive ZIX XQ or u can afford Mobil 1.

Read about the benefits of synthetic oils and you will use it yourself. or give me your email ID i will send you a very informative book on Engine oils.

ali_7890 · 25-10-2009, 04:10 AM

whats the difference b/w synthetic oil and the normal oil?

And from where can I get Mobil1? I havnt seen any yet

ansarghani · 26-10-2009, 03:08 AM

Synthetic oil is a chemical lubricant specially developed to meet the lubrication requirements of an engine.

A very good example: It is like using hammer (synthetic oil) to nail a nail rather then a brick (Natural oil), the brick will break apart during the accomplishment of the task. You know natural oil start chemically decomposing on its use, while synthetic oil developed to bear the chemical decomposition.

You know the drain interval for natural oil is (3000km) while for synthetic oil it can be up to 15000km (depend on the oil and dirt conditions)

Do not get deceived with Synthetic formula and fully synthetic. Go for fully synthetic oil. i think Best available oil is Mobil1, you can find it in a good shop dealing in motor oils.

Regards

ansarghani · 26-10-2009, 03:14 AM

http://www.zag.si/~jank/public/bmw/oil_bible.pdf

Read this book....

ali_7890 · 26-10-2009, 07:22 PM

Thanks man! nice info.

One more thing. Can you tell me exactly where to find the Mobil1 oil?

And, is TOYOTA GENUINE MOTOR OIL synthetic too?
Is it a good idea to purchase it from their showroom?

HumanGenius · 26-10-2009, 07:27 PM

@ali
TGMO is not synthetic. If that is what you want, Toyota Oil, then its safest to purchase from a 2S or 3S dealer. But be careful about specs, if its 20W-50, know that its meant if the car will be driven while the temp is 20 C to 50 C (acceptable for KHI, but Id recommend 10W-40).

Burki · 26-10-2009, 09:34 PM

And what about Liquy Moly ( Germany)Engine and gear oil? Is it synthetic and good for Pakistani Conditions?

Burki · 27-10-2009, 12:39 AM

Anyone have any experience or knowledge about liquy Moly engine and gear oil?

ansarghani · 27-10-2009, 02:34 AM

@Burki

Liqui Moly is good renowned company since 1957.

I do not exactly now if synthetic oil available in Liqui Moly, you can ask the dealer. if it is synthetic then it must be mentioned on the bottle/container.

Conditions in Pakistan is generally dusty, always try to use genuine or the best quality of Air filter available. Air is the only source of dust or contamination in the engine, which eventually contribute in the wear and tear of the engine.

ali_7890 · 27-10-2009, 10:32 PM

One more thing.
Synthetic oil for CNG is different or the same?

ansarghani · 28-10-2009, 01:00 AM

@Ali

Haven't heard about CNG synthetic. i don't think so there is such a difference in CNG and non-CNG oils, it seems a marketing scheme to me...

Which car do you have? and currently which engine oil you are using?

ali_7890 · 28-10-2009, 04:00 AM

I have a Coure 04.
And I use Shell Helix.

ansarghani · 30-10-2009, 01:55 AM

Ok..mileage on the clock? if you have driven considerable number of miles of your car on Natural lubricant then conversion to synthetic oil MAY BE not very much recommended. i have sent you the book, do read about it in detail.

My bro have Santro, he switched to synthetic after some 60000KM, working fine.

ali_7890 · 30-10-2009, 10:43 PM

Just crossed 54,000 KM last week.

I've driven 3500+ KM since my last oil change.

ansarghani · 30-10-2009, 11:26 PM

@Ali

i am sure you can use synthetic oil for your car.

just make sure keep your AIR FILTER clean! VERY IMPORTANT!!

ali_7890 · 30-10-2009, 11:57 PM

O its clean alright. Got it from Toyota for 800RUPEES!!!!! :|

usman3206 · 31-10-2009, 07:23 AM

All oils are same, its just the brands have different names. Look for API (American Petroleum Institute) grade SL or SM, these are the latest oils and use 20-50W since we live in hot weather. These are the standards which are written on all oils, this SL and SM are made for newer engines. If u want more info read all this on this site

http://www.carbibles.com/engineoil_bible.html

Slip99 · 31-10-2009, 07:34 AM

Dear Ali,

Just forget what anybody tells u . If you need a good performance oil not just the brand name then contact me on gtlube_1@hotmail.com. Ill not just give you a proper oil according to your ca but also you gonna save money.

Regards,

Omer

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Originally Posted by ali_7890

I have a Coure 04. And I use Shell Helix.

25-10-2009, 12:47 AM	#1
ali_7890 318 days old at PW Location: Karachi Age: 22 Posts: 30	Engine Oil? Havoline or Toyota Genuine Motor Oil. Does it make any difference? which one's better? And what are those special oil for CNG?

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HumanGenius 981 days old at PW Location: *** Age: 15 Posts: 4,487	@ali TGMO is not synthetic. If that is what you want, Toyota Oil, then its safest to purchase from a 2S or 3S dealer. But be careful about specs, if its 20W-50, know that its meant if the car will be driven while the temp is 20 C to 50 C (acceptable for KHI, but Id recommend 10W-40). __________________ What good is a Genius without the Human aspect?

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25-10-2009, 02:39 AM	#3 (permalink)
ansarghani 1,638 days old at PW Location: Peshawar Age: 27 Posts: 266	Try synthetic oil like entry level ZIC A+ or a bit expansive ZIX XQ or u can afford Mobil 1. Read about the benefits of synthetic oils and you will use it yourself. or give me your email ID i will send you a very informative book on Engine oils.

25-10-2009, 04:10 AM	#4 (permalink)
ali_7890 318 days old at PW Location: Karachi Age: 22 Posts: 30	whats the difference b/w synthetic oil and the normal oil? And from where can I get Mobil1? I havnt seen any yet

26-10-2009, 03:08 AM	#5 (permalink)
ansarghani 1,638 days old at PW Location: Peshawar Age: 27 Posts: 266	Synthetic oil is a chemical lubricant specially developed to meet the lubrication requirements of an engine. A very good example: It is like using hammer (synthetic oil) to nail a nail rather then a brick (Natural oil), the brick will break apart during the accomplishment of the task. You know natural oil start chemically decomposing on its use, while synthetic oil developed to bear the chemical decomposition. You know the drain interval for natural oil is (3000km) while for synthetic oil it can be up to 15000km (depend on the oil and dirt conditions) Do not get deceived with Synthetic formula and fully synthetic. Go for fully synthetic oil. i think Best available oil is Mobil1, you can find it in a good shop dealing in motor oils. Regards

26-10-2009, 03:14 AM	#6 (permalink)
ansarghani 1,638 days old at PW Location: Peshawar Age: 27 Posts: 266	http://www.zag.si/~jank/public/bmw/oil_bible.pdf Read this book....

26-10-2009, 07:22 PM	#7 (permalink)
ali_7890 318 days old at PW Location: Karachi Age: 22 Posts: 30	Thanks man! nice info. One more thing. Can you tell me exactly where to find the Mobil1 oil? And, is TOYOTA GENUINE MOTOR OIL synthetic too? Is it a good idea to purchase it from their showroom?

26-10-2009, 09:34 PM	#9 (permalink)
Burki 631 days old at PW Location: Lahore Age: 36 Posts: 132	And what about Liquy Moly ( Germany)Engine and gear oil? Is it synthetic and good for Pakistani Conditions?

27-10-2009, 12:39 AM	#10 (permalink)
Burki 631 days old at PW Location: Lahore Age: 36 Posts: 132	Anyone have any experience or knowledge about liquy Moly engine and gear oil?

27-10-2009, 02:34 AM	#11 (permalink)
ansarghani 1,638 days old at PW Location: Peshawar Age: 27 Posts: 266	@Burki Liqui Moly is good renowned company since 1957. I do not exactly now if synthetic oil available in Liqui Moly, you can ask the dealer. if it is synthetic then it must be mentioned on the bottle/container. Conditions in Pakistan is generally dusty, always try to use genuine or the best quality of Air filter available. Air is the only source of dust or contamination in the engine, which eventually contribute in the wear and tear of the engine.

27-10-2009, 10:32 PM	#12 (permalink)
ali_7890 318 days old at PW Location: Karachi Age: 22 Posts: 30	One more thing. Synthetic oil for CNG is different or the same?

28-10-2009, 01:00 AM	#13 (permalink)
ansarghani 1,638 days old at PW Location: Peshawar Age: 27 Posts: 266	@Ali Haven't heard about CNG synthetic. i don't think so there is such a difference in CNG and non-CNG oils, it seems a marketing scheme to me... Which car do you have? and currently which engine oil you are using?

28-10-2009, 04:00 AM	#14 (permalink)
ali_7890 318 days old at PW Location: Karachi Age: 22 Posts: 30	I have a Coure 04. And I use Shell Helix.

30-10-2009, 01:55 AM	#15 (permalink)
ansarghani 1,638 days old at PW Location: Peshawar Age: 27 Posts: 266	Ok..mileage on the clock? if you have driven considerable number of miles of your car on Natural lubricant then conversion to synthetic oil MAY BE not very much recommended. i have sent you the book, do read about it in detail. My bro have Santro, he switched to synthetic after some 60000KM, working fine.

30-10-2009, 10:43 PM	#16 (permalink)
ali_7890 318 days old at PW Location: Karachi Age: 22 Posts: 30	Just crossed 54,000 KM last week. I've driven 3500+ KM since my last oil change.

30-10-2009, 11:26 PM	#17 (permalink)
ansarghani 1,638 days old at PW Location: Peshawar Age: 27 Posts: 266	@Ali i am sure you can use synthetic oil for your car. just make sure keep your AIR FILTER clean! VERY IMPORTANT!!

30-10-2009, 11:57 PM	#18 (permalink)
ali_7890 318 days old at PW Location: Karachi Age: 22 Posts: 30	O its clean alright. Got it from Toyota for 800RUPEES!!!!! :\|

31-10-2009, 07:23 AM	#19 (permalink)
usman3206 28 days old at PW Location: Bannu Age: 39 Posts: 11	All oils are same, its just the brands have different names. Look for API (American Petroleum Institute) grade SL or SM, these are the latest oils and use 20-50W since we live in hot weather. These are the standards which are written on all oils, this SL and SM are made for newer engines. If u want more info read all this on this site http://www.carbibles.com/engineoil_bible.html