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Old 01-11-2009, 11:28 PM   #1
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Guys, any tips on increasing the performance of a 2k toyota hilux diesel engine are more than welcome. I would be glad if anyone could tell me the following.


1. Would a larger air intake increase speed


2. Would an additional/bigger exhaust increase speed


3. What other factors would contribute to speed increase


4. Exactly how big a turbo would be good to install that would give a significant boost in speed and not on my pocket in terms of fuel


5. Then again would a turbocharger be better or a supercharger





Thanks to the experts in advance.
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Not an expert on the 2KD-FTV engine, but having become somewhat of a "purist" over the years with experience of lots of desi jugars, I would not recommend playing around with this engine unless you have very deep pockets and some very techy speed shop friends.


Theoretically, larger intake and exhaust would increase engine power. A larger turbo would increase speed and there are probably other parts like a programmable chip which can be used to fine tune the engine for performance.


However unless you are able to find some very relevant parts / information on the net I would say that don't play around with how Toyota have set things up. Local mechanics do not understand the D4D engines well and there are some issues with compatability with local diesel so be very careful not to mess things up in the long run.


I do believe that the 2KD is a modification friendly engine and there are probably lots of parts that you can import, use google and do your research if you are serious.
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Not an expert on the 2KD-FTV engine, but having become somewhat of a "purist" over the years with experience of lots of desi jugars, I would not recommend playing around with this engine unless you have very deep pockets and some very techy speed shop friends.


Theoretically, larger intake and exhaust would increase engine power. A larger turbo would increase speed and there are probably other parts like a programmable chip which can be used to fine tune the engine for performance.


However unless you are able to find some very relevant parts / information on the net I would say that don't play around with how Toyota have set things up. Local mechanics do not understand the D4D engines well and there are some issues with compatability with local diesel so be very careful not to mess things up in the long run.


I do believe that the 2KD is a modification friendly engine and there are probably lots of parts that you can import, use google and do your research if you are serious.






Thanks buddy. Will check up on the net as well. But i guess im gonna go for intake and exhaust at least because a friend of mine had done his Mazda 929 the same way. He has the same 2C diesel engine of the toyota hi lux. It had no turbo but it ran faster than the stock engine.
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Guys, any tips on increasing the performance of a 2k toyota hilux diesel engine are more than welcome. I would be glad if anyone could tell me the following.


1. Would a larger air intake increase speed


2. Would an additional/bigger exhaust increase speed


3. What other factors would contribute to speed increase


4. Exactly how big a turbo would be good to install that would give a significant boost in speed and not on my pocket in terms of fuel


5. Then again would a turbocharger be better or a supercharger





Thanks to the experts in advance.



hi.. diesel engines behave totally diffrent from petrols.. before doing any mods.. find a good diesel pump tuner.. invest about 7-8 k on a max and tell the deisel pump tuner that u need ultimate speed.. trust me do this job and u will be amazed with the performance..


i had done it with 2c engine.. i was doing 120km max on 5th shift.. but after diesel pump setting it was doing 170+kmh.. initial pickup and everything was effected..


========== after this.. if u need more HP.. get down piping done on 2-3 inches.. but that will make ur diesel engine's life shorter.. but u wont need anything after pump setting..


if u in karachi.. goto garden.. theres pindi diesel works.. guyz name is daniyal.. hez champ in diesel engineering ..
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Old 02-11-2009, 09:30 PM   #5 (permalink)
 
 
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ummmMm as far as my experience on a 2.4l . 2.8l deisel engines


direct piping,intakes n a turbo umm a used for about 10k adds enough power n the direct piping increases the acceleration!
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Old 02-11-2009, 10:48 PM   #6 (permalink)
 
 
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Many thanks to Yasir and Sarosh. However can u guys tell me what exactly is down piping and its purpose and what's done in diesel pump setting. Would a combination of diesel pump setting, down piping, small turbo and additional/large exhaust pipe increase the performance brilliantly. Also if i put an air intake slot in my bonnet will that help keep the engine cool. And i hope when it rains the water that gets in from the slot will not affect my engine and cause the car to stall. I also plan to put 16 inch rims in the back and 15 up front. The tyres are gonna be broad. For the broad tyres i will be putting fender flares. The body is that of a Toyota Mark 2 1972.


Once again i am truly grateful to you all for helping me out on this one.
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Old 04-11-2009, 04:45 PM   #7 (permalink)
 
 
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Guys i'm waiting for your reply.
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Old 04-11-2009, 04:58 PM   #8 (permalink)
 
 
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@Demigod: The 1KD is a modern diesel engine with EFi which is not really well understood by our local mechanics as yet. The 2C is a tried and tested older angine usually with naturally aspirated diesel pump (i.e. non EFi). As a result while 2C pangas and jugaars are quite affordable, doable and fixable, the 1KD is a different matter. Also diesel labs are not helpful with EFi diesels as everything is electronic and not mechanical.


Nevertheless, please see recent post on 4x4 forum with performance enhancement tips on the 1KZ engine, where the end conclusion appears to be to chip the computer and reprogram (applicable in your case too). Also would suggest making a separate post there as some of the rally guys would be pretty familiar with 1KD modifications.
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Old 05-11-2009, 05:05 PM   #9 (permalink)
 
 
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I have a 2C diesel engine. So i think i can do some jugaars with it.
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Oh sorry, On a standard 2C engine I would think you should take it to a good diesel mechanic in your city and first make sure that diesel pump is working OK and engine is in decent shape. Then you can install a kabuli 2C turbo (if not there) and get pump configured for performance from a good diesel lab. This should be adequate enough for most purposes. Key thing is to find a good relaible mechanic.
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Thanks Suhaib. What's a kabuli turbo?

Yasir and Sarosh, waiting for your replies. Thanks.
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Old 08-11-2009, 12:41 PM   #12 (permalink)
 
 
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Hey where has everybody gone? I seriously need some help guys as i'm supposed to complete this by this month end.
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I think kabuli turbos are the smuggled in ones.. not sure though.
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Smuggled turbos? Damn. Wonder if they work.
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Help me people. Help me
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One more thing i need to know is that i wanna buy some parts for my project. I saw some good air filters on sale at pak wheels. Anybody got a good exhaust and turbo as well. In short anything that will boost the speed of my ride. It's a toyota hi lux 2C diesel engine.
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First of all check your injector nozzle pressure. Get a 2C repair manual or download from internet and set it accordingly. If you have a highly qualified diesel pump mechanic then tell him to adjust the pump slightly richer on fuel otherwise I wont recommend manuplating the pump. You can fit a CT9 turbo but the easiest will be to swap the internals till intake manifold from a 2CT. Once Turboed, then you MUST have to increase the diameter of the exhaust down pipe and install better flowing muffler.

Always use high quality air filter, better not to install custom cold air intake when turbo charged. Let it be in the air box. For further mods you can install an intercooler which cools down the air inlet temperature so you can run higher boost with no such chance of breakage. Also dont forget to install EGT gauge. It will show you exhaust gas temperature so you will know how much load your engine can take.
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First of all check your injector nozzle pressure. Get a 2C repair manual or download from internet and set it accordingly. If you have a highly qualified diesel pump mechanic then tell him to adjust the pump slightly richer on fuel otherwise I wont recommend manuplating the pump. You can fit a CT9 turbo but the easiest will be to swap the internals till intake manifold from a 2CT. Once Turboed, then you MUST have to increase the diameter of the exhaust down pipe and install better flowing muffler. Always use high quality air filter, better not to install custom cold air intake when turbo charged. Let it be in the air box. For further mods you can install an intercooler which cools down the air inlet temperature so you can run higher boost with no such chance of breakage. Also dont forget to install EGT gauge. It will show you exhaust gas temperature so you will know how much load your engine can take.
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First of all check your injector nozzle pressure. Get a 2C repair manual or download from internet and set it accordingly. If you have a highly qualified diesel pump mechanic then tell him to adjust the pump slightly richer on fuel otherwise I wont recommend manuplating the pump. You can fit a CT9 turbo but the easiest will be to swap the internals till intake manifold from a 2CT. Once Turboed, then you MUST have to increase the diameter of the exhaust down pipe and install better flowing muffler. Always use high quality air filter, better not to install custom cold air intake when turbo charged. Let it be in the air box. For further mods you can install an intercooler which cools down the air inlet temperature so you can run higher boost with no such chance of breakage. Also dont forget to install EGT gauge. It will show you exhaust gas temperature so you will know how much load your engine can take.

Thanks Saaduk. Really appreciate your advice
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Old 11-11-2009, 12:16 AM   #20 (permalink)
 
 
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Brother


Get good nozzle Job


Fuel filter changed if 40k kms used


Get cams/Tappets adjusted


get Lighter flywheel though stock can be grinded aswell.


Get Free flow bigger air filter and wider exhaust system though u have to get more fuel sprayed from the nozzles which might make the ppl coming behind blind lol


Rest better find 2C T then turbo charging current engine
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