F20b in 1987 Charade

Gandapur_Khan · 20-10-2009, 08:57 AM

Will upload more pictures soon ..

The car is under construction..

ModT edit: moved to project section

Gandapur_Khan · 20-10-2009, 09:04 AM

what do you people think ????

any suggestions ??

mobeenkhan · 20-10-2009, 09:39 AM

Sir good luck with your project!! But some one tried h22 in
charade it was not sucessful, i think b16 or 18 is better option because they lighter in weight!! And properly tuned B,s are not slow.

Gandapur_Khan · 22-10-2009, 09:30 AM

Assalam Alikum !

Some more pictures of the engine being fitted to the engine bay ..needed alot of alteration and strengthning using metal rods,plates etc..

Also notice the suspension is adjustable ( Height + ride i.e hard and soft)

Any suggestions are welcomed ! !

levin · 22-10-2009, 03:34 PM

if car is already swaped why ask for opnion?

its a accord engine, and is power weight on wheel base is designed for accord.

technically you dont go above certainhorsepower on front wheel drive car to keep its efficency and driviabilty.

in accord the weight of car and wheelbase balances the power of engine, in civic h22 didnt go that effectively neither did 3sgte in corolla was launch effective on pakistan road, and all those are heavier cars than charade.

h22 has more performance than f20 on any given day and there are more possibilties to improve powebut you need a bigger wheelbase car , charade is not a big wheel base car,, its narrow nd short designed for 1.3 at the max. to make charade swift and fast with good handling i wont go above 1.3l turbo egine. even a friend has done 1.6l engine swap in charade but that car wont handle corners like corolla.

be very careful when you speed up because car may not stop or turn effectivily in peshawer

lowresolution · 22-10-2009, 04:54 PM

That is an awfully mounted engine! .....welding some random plates to the chassis and having the engine put onto those ..!

Good luck with your project ..i hope it runs ! that is incase the engine doesnt drop down !

smartboy_am · 22-10-2009, 05:19 PM

it's quite a big engine accordig to the size of charade,it's possible that u r going to face many problems......

ekdrifter · 22-10-2009, 05:22 PM

good luck with the project rora
but keep that in mind chrades are not designed for big engine

STUNNER · 22-10-2009, 05:54 PM

I really love it...if u manage to run it!

aniQ · 22-10-2009, 09:52 PM

congrats for a swap...lets c if it is up to the mark..keep us updated

SER_GTR · 22-10-2009, 10:25 PM

Wheel Spins Wheel Spins...Traction Issues...!!

Engine Weight Still How You Manage To Handle If You Use Best Of Suspension Brakes And Some Solid Cross Member....!! Still Nose Is Heavy Comparing Back As levin Stated Car....Balancing Is SomeThing Also Need To Be Considered....!!

Anyways..Best Of Luck Drive Safe And Have Strong Brake And Suspension Before Trying Any Run...!!

Gandapur_Khan · 23-10-2009, 10:14 AM

1) Have Istalled four wheel discs (i.e back drum converted to Disc),with a bigger brake master cylinder.also installing
new orignal japanese leather for all wheels.( also considering installing dual leather is needed if you know what i mean !)

2) tower strut bar,lower bars and adjustable floor bars.

3) Adding large spacers to increase the wheel base (All dics) and

installing 14 " rims with 195 0r 205 tyres.

And yes searching for some good mechanic/electrition for installing ABS.
Bought new axle and honda dohc cross for making a joint for the axle as the orignal is short in length.

new front hubs installed
ALso the suspension installed is the best i could find here in peshawar.its a type R or something like that.

2) and 3) will be installed soon will upload the pics INSHAALLAH
Any other suggestions regarding the handling etc are welcomed.

Gandapur_Khan · 23-10-2009, 10:22 AM

Some pictures of the suspension

shree59 · 31-10-2009, 03:11 PM

send full pics not colse close

sufianmehmood · 31-10-2009, 05:21 PM

congrats and best of luck bro!
can you tell me details about the shock absorbers, are these charade's own after market items or you altered for fitting. I've been looking for original fitting aftermarket shock absorbers for quite some time now.......

salmang · 01-11-2009, 01:09 PM

MashahALLAh, I had owned one,

InshahALLAH, ull be surprised by this engine performance,

vectorius · 01-11-2009, 01:20 PM

i always been told that a well modified charade isnt reliable but always causing problem .u have spend a load of money wish u find it well

N2O · 01-11-2009, 06:09 PM

LMAO look at those beautifull skinny mounts

reminds me of those skinny models shown on FTV LOL,if this is mounted on these skinny plates,forget traction....you would be getting back to workshop every other day to make a new plate,looks like an 8year old made the mounts for this...

While on the other hand,if the mounts are good,supported with strong axles/suspension etc this is going to be a fun ride

20-10-2009, 08:57 AM	#1
Gandapur_Khan 173 days old at PW Location: Peshawar Age: 39 Posts: 27	F20b in 1987 Charade Will upload more pictures soon .. The car is under construction.. ModT edit: moved to project section

22-10-2009, 03:34 PM	#5 (permalink)
levin 1,495 days old at PW Location: MA Age: 39 Posts: 15,794	if car is already swaped why ask for opnion? its a accord engine, and is power weight on wheel base is designed for accord. technically you dont go above certainhorsepower on front wheel drive car to keep its efficency and driviabilty. in accord the weight of car and wheelbase balances the power of engine, in civic h22 didnt go that effectively neither did 3sgte in corolla was launch effective on pakistan road, and all those are heavier cars than charade. h22 has more performance than f20 on any given day and there are more possibilties to improve powebut you need a bigger wheelbase car , charade is not a big wheel base car,, its narrow nd short designed for 1.3 at the max. to make charade swift and fast with good handling i wont go above 1.3l turbo egine. even a friend has done 1.6l engine swap in charade but that car wont handle corners like corolla. be very careful when you speed up because car may not stop or turn effectivily in peshawer __________________ traction makes the difference

22-10-2009, 05:19 PM	#7 (permalink)
smartboy_am 413 days old at PW Location: Karachi Age: 18 Posts: 1,160	it's quite a big engine accordig to the size of charade,it's possible that u r going to face many problems...... __________________ An F8b attracts me more than a girl !!!!!!!!!!!

22-10-2009, 05:22 PM	#8 (permalink)
ekdrifter 202 days old at PW Location: Peshawar Age: 20 Posts: 2,704	good luck with the project rora but keep that in mind chrades are not designed for big engine __________________ Girls are stupid cars are smart due to ECU ! "JDM For life"

22-10-2009, 05:54 PM	#9 (permalink)
STUNNER 1,378 days old at PW Location: Rawalpindi Age: 22 Posts: 142	I really love it...if u manage to run it! __________________ Faster than speed of mouth!!!

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20-10-2009, 09:04 AM	#2 (permalink)
Gandapur_Khan 173 days old at PW Location: Peshawar Age: 39 Posts: 27	what do you people think ???? any suggestions ??

20-10-2009, 09:39 AM	#3 (permalink)
mobeenkhan 717 days old at PW Location: Karachi Age: 39 Posts: 25	Sir good luck with your project!! But some one tried h22 in charade it was not sucessful, i think b16 or 18 is better option because they lighter in weight!! And properly tuned B,s are not slow.

22-10-2009, 09:30 AM	#4 (permalink)
Gandapur_Khan 173 days old at PW Location: Peshawar Age: 39 Posts: 27	Assalam Alikum ! Some more pictures of the engine being fitted to the engine bay ..needed alot of alteration and strengthning using metal rods,plates etc.. Also notice the suspension is adjustable ( Height + ride i.e hard and soft) Any suggestions are welcomed ! !

22-10-2009, 04:54 PM	#6 (permalink)
lowresolution 1,264 days old at PW Location: Karachi Age: 28 Posts: 1,861	That is an awfully mounted engine! .....welding some random plates to the chassis and having the engine put onto those ..! Good luck with your project ..i hope it runs ! that is incase the engine doesnt drop down !

22-10-2009, 09:52 PM	#10 (permalink)
aniQ 795 days old at PW Location: Peshawar Age: 20 Posts: 900	congrats for a swap...lets c if it is up to the mark..keep us updated __________________ -i m da g@me no way u can play me

22-10-2009, 10:25 PM	#11 (permalink)
SER_GTR 1,471 days old at PW Location: Karachi Age: 23 Posts: 4,933	Wheel Spins Wheel Spins...Traction Issues...!! Engine Weight Still How You Manage To Handle If You Use Best Of Suspension Brakes And Some Solid Cross Member....!! Still Nose Is Heavy Comparing Back As levin Stated Car....Balancing Is SomeThing Also Need To Be Considered....!! Anyways..Best Of Luck Drive Safe And Have Strong Brake And Suspension Before Trying Any Run...!! __________________ TOYOTA Sprinter 86- AE80 DOHC 20v'D TOYOTA Corolla 98- AE101 4AFE 16v

23-10-2009, 10:14 AM	#12 (permalink)
Gandapur_Khan 173 days old at PW Location: Peshawar Age: 39 Posts: 27	1) Have Istalled four wheel discs (i.e back drum converted to Disc),with a bigger brake master cylinder.also installing new orignal japanese leather for all wheels.( also considering installing dual leather is needed if you know what i mean !) 2) tower strut bar,lower bars and adjustable floor bars. 3) Adding large spacers to increase the wheel base (All dics) and installing 14 " rims with 195 0r 205 tyres. And yes searching for some good mechanic/electrition for installing ABS. Bought new axle and honda dohc cross for making a joint for the axle as the orignal is short in length. new front hubs installed ALso the suspension installed is the best i could find here in peshawar.its a type R or something like that. 2) and 3) will be installed soon will upload the pics INSHAALLAH Any other suggestions regarding the handling etc are welcomed.

23-10-2009, 10:22 AM	#13 (permalink)
Gandapur_Khan 173 days old at PW Location: Peshawar Age: 39 Posts: 27	Some pictures of the suspension

31-10-2009, 03:11 PM	#14 (permalink)
shree59 1,068 days old at PW Location: Lahore Age: 29 Posts: 305	send full pics not colse close

31-10-2009, 05:21 PM	#15 (permalink)
sufianmehmood 1,333 days old at PW Location: Rawalpindi Age: 27 Posts: 378	congrats and best of luck bro! can you tell me details about the shock absorbers, are these charade's own after market items or you altered for fitting. I've been looking for original fitting aftermarket shock absorbers for quite some time now.......

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01-11-2009, 01:09 PM	#16 (permalink)
salmang 2,019 days old at PW Location: Karachi Age: 28 Posts: 243	MashahALLAh, I had owned one, InshahALLAH, ull be surprised by this engine performance, __________________ Vtec with me!

01-11-2009, 01:20 PM	#17 (permalink)
vectorius 20 days old at PW Location: Peshawar Age: 22 Posts: 6	i always been told that a well modified charade isnt reliable but always causing problem .u have spend a load of money wish u find it well

01-11-2009, 06:09 PM	#18 (permalink)
N2O 1,453 days old at PW Location: Karachi Age: 21 Posts: 1,670	LMAO look at those beautifull skinny mounts reminds me of those skinny models shown on FTV LOL,if this is mounted on these skinny plates,forget traction....you would be getting back to workshop every other day to make a new plate,looks like an 8year old made the mounts for this... While on the other hand,if the mounts are good,supported with strong axles/suspension etc this is going to be a fun ride __________________ k24 allmotor project commencing soon.