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    Default Vitz 2005, Automatic / CVT transmission question

    Hello guys.


    1st, how in the world can I know FOR SURE if the trans in my 2005 vitz is the old style automatic or the CVT?


    It has the 1.0 liter 3-cylinder engine.





    And if the tranny is the CVT, what is there to maintain in them?


    Like in normal autos, we just change / flush the ATF / change the ATF filter and things. What about the CVT? I dont know much about CVTs and don't have enough time that I go googling about it.
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    yeah it got cvt transmission
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    What about the CVT then? What comes in the maintenance of CVTs?
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    nothing so special.


    same crap is in honda city vario
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    Same maintenance for CVT as normal auto.
    A simple check if u want to whether transmission is CVT or normal auto/prosmatec. Drive the car, if u c RPM drop during gear change, its normal auto. If there is no RPM drop during gear change, then it's CVT. Gear changing in CVT is not actually changing. There are infinite ratios according to which gear box ECU adjusts RPM, so physically there are no gears there
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    Fine, then where in world is the DIPSTICK so I can check my Tranny's OIL?! damnit. After how many kilometers should their oil / oil filter be changed?
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    Can't tell u about dipstick of city. Cuz don't know it. According to honda people, filter of it never needs to be changed unless u accidently put dirty oil in it. And if u want to change, it wud take 1n a half days and Rs. 7000/- cost from local mechanic. 15000/- by honda
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    There is no dipstick in 2005 but check nut instead and believe me its under the gear box, defies gravity rules ... lift your car on a ramp and you'll see with something written besides it as well and also note that its a combination of nuts(one inside other).

    ATF for vitz 05 is recommended at 40000km and use toyota ATF-IV which costs around 600 a litre and i think it requires 3 litres

    I changed oil in my vitz after 40k but there was a slight differebce in performance the original oil was giving better performance so my advise is to change oil when u feel the need

    Don't run ur car in lower gears selection, specially first and second if at all required run it for a few seconds like going down hill. Otherwise it gets heated and the damage is irreversible

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    No dipstick! Damn these car makers! I effing want to check how is my oil doing and please let me do that and GIMME THE DIPSTICK BACK YOU IDIOTS!


    Hmm.. its time to change now..

    How do we put the ATF in then? I have been using Caltex Texamatic T888 in my other cars and its been excellent!, is it suitable for vitz? Cause I don't 'buy' that original toyota thing, they don't make those oils 'themselves'. That is just like saying that Mercedes's engines are hand-built.

    And any idea where can I find a Factory Service Manual for a Vitz? Because I always like to know how to and where to lol

    Since you said we shouldn't be using lower gears, what about when going uphill?

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    Quote Originally Posted by panicslayer

    Can't tell u about dipstick of city. Cuz don't know it. According to honda people, filter of it never needs to be changed unless u accidently put dirty oil in it. And if u want to change, it wud take 1n a half days and Rs. 7000/- cost from local mechanic. 15000/- by honda




    Damn thats a very high cost, I might be able to get it done in rupees 500 since I just had the cherokee's filter / atf flush done. All for like 500 labour and 400 for the petrol used to clean the ATF filter. But, I knew what I was doing there so wasn't a problem.








    And about that filter thing, it has to been changed, after like 150K+ kilometers, the metal bits from the transmission have to tear off with usage and they end up either in the oil pan (where there is a magnet to catch and hold them) or the ATF filter. When the ATF filter gets clogged, it won't let the pressure regulate and there would be no power going to your tyres.
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    Okay guys, I am back! with a BLAST.

    First off, Naweed: You said original oil was giving better performance and you must be VERY right because you put in the wrong oil for the transmission. Toyota has been using ATF-World Standard in their auto cars since 2005.. and the 2005+ vitz is no exception. That oil doesn't need to replaced or changed.. 1st INSPECTION in the manual is at 160,000 Kilometers. and that too is inspection only.
    However if you want to change and can FIND ATF-WS here, change it every 100K Kilometers or so just for kicks.


    have a look at this TSB:

    http://www.etimago.com/yaris/TSB/TS-TC010-07%20(World%20Standard%20Automatic%20Transmission% 20Fluid%20).pdf

    So everyone out there, with a Vitz 2005 or later, you don't need to change your transmission oil.. and if you want to, use ONLY the ATF-WS (AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION FLUID - WORLD STANDARD).
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    here is something more to READ:

    http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1165056


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    man thats gud info. Thnx

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    2005 Onward Toyota Vitz comes wid CVT in 1.0 and 1.3. Whereas 1.5 comes wid a ECTi 4 speed Auto.


    Here is how CVT works







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    Sir use the Toyota TC oil for CVT (in teen daba packing) available at Makro & Metro Stores and wholesale importers.

    All new shape Vitz with 1.0L 3 cylinder have a CVT.
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    vitz has a cvti but it gives patathic pick and performance otherwise previous 4speed at vitz was having very nice acceleration
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    plz mention the exact quantity also for 2005 vitz

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    guys i have been planning to change the cvt oil but im still a bit confused bout where to fill the cvt oil i read it in some othe rpost on pakwheels that the nut with TC written on it is the right place where it is to b filled and then again in nother post said the TC port is not the right port to fill the oil
    plz help???

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    to change cvt oil you need to drain the old one first .. go to toyota motors any mechanic who hasn't change vitz gear oil will not understand how to do it .. plus the fact that its oil type is critical .. wrong type of oil can put you in trouble
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