Mehran Experience Tips and suggestions

[ekdrifter]

AOA
i have owned mehran for 7 years almost and most of the stuff has gone wrong so if some one has an issue with mehran he can ask me here i will be glad to help a mehran brother to put him out of this misery as mehran is a car that can make u go mad and pull ur hair a part KIDDING
so some one has problem post it here i will do my best to come up with a solution
Problem no 1: Starting in winters is a hell if ur getting late dhicka will do the trick but u need to check few things Park the car in night on petrol,Open the Self as mechs call it SULF and check barrings in it they are copper barrings and if needed so replace them else ask the electrification to clean the self,and reinstall it
then check the battery DON'T add water over the High level mark as in winters problems is that Engine OIl freezes or gets thick and it needs extra kick from the battery
other things related are clean the plugs and change the plug wires possible to 8mm ones and clean or replace the Point which comes in Distributor
also check the
+ve wire of the self is Tight to battery as most of the time its a small thing which makes u go mad

PRoblem no 2:Axel and CV joints so CV joints are too weak in mehran and 3 years of rough driving can kill them and when replacing CV joints never go for a kabuli AXEL as they tend to be repaired most of them use Chinese ones they work good and tell the Kharaiya to never temper with the length of the Axel in fitting of the Cv joints the length should be as OEM specs
and if the Straight joint is worn out replace it with Cross and the Cross kupa but be careful for length and the kuppa pick the kuppa which has the smoothest end which goes in to the Gearbox as it can damage Axel seals in gear box
always use the Original Rod of ur car as its build for ur car a mechanic will suggest u to replace whole AXEL with Kabuli but its from an older model besides most of them are repaired
Issue in top speed and pick
when i first got the chance to Floor mehran on M1 with iridium plugs and 8mm wires bought from Shoba i was really Disappointed with results car was hitting 110km/h MAX on petrol i was so mad but in this i noticed a few things which were wrong in my car
1 Cv joint of right axel
2 Cylinder Packing it made dar dar sound like old taxies after 80Km/h mark
3 and wires from shoba had no life in them they were used and abuses
so excpet for CV joint i changed wires to new 8mm which are cheaper then shoba wali Kabuli wires and Cylinder Packing plus whole exhaust had wholes so repaired it all got her tuned from ENERCON center and after a few days i hit the M1 again plus similar iridiums were in it and this time results were amazing mehran ha 165/70/12 tires and speedo was showing 130 so u can guess what it was in real speed as big tires cause speedo to give an error 100 in speedo = 112.2 Km/h in real

Ignition Coil replacement

as most of mehrans have OIL ignition coil which Comes FF and it sucks it has a limited life and mechs do make a mistake when coil dies they assume that head gasket is gone and which leads to other problems.replace coil with magnetic coil which Alto and Cultus use its way better and gives an edge in starting costs were low when i did this 600 for the coil brand new but now i herd its for 1500 or something comes in a triangle box.

Front Guarder or GADRI

as time passes Front Guarder or GADRI become rusted and weak which causes problems for mountings of the front jumping rod a new Front Guarder or GADRI is about 1000 and 4 bolts hold it in place on a non accidented car its not a big job Front bumper needs to be opened and jumping rod and 4 bolts and its the reverse process while fitting but a car which had some accident then its a job in which a denter makes some $$$$ but there is always a way around intall gaudri and all stuff and see if there is some difference on alingment of bolts of front engine mounts cut a whole with welding torch in the engine mounting plate and its easy and also make adjustments to the jumping rod u can make tires placement in the wheels where they will fit but go for some good dentor so frame can be pulled out will cost more but its the right way
installation of Foam in Doors to reduce sounds
its a simple task install some pieces of foam behind the lock wires and door handle wires inside the door
open the inner door covers first take the hadle out its held with 2 screws then take the cover of handle out held with single screw then the window winder take it out but it requires a trick rool it to a point u can see the joint end of the pit take it out with a screw driver and window winder will be free
then take the cover our its held with clips but don't put much pressure on them they can break after its out check all bolts and screws inside the doors if they are loose tight them and hit the door with ur fist so u can hear sounds now with other hand start detecting what wire is loose cut some foam and put it between the door and line
by this u can reduce 90% of sounds in mehran

[ekdrifter]

mahmood



i thnk u shuld try a few things change the relay if original one not available then go for denso toyota kabuli and check the wire which comes to compressor check if its broken or not due to pules and if every thing fails go to dealership and check ur ac from them suzuki central motors 2000 ki phaki hai but worth it.

[amirhasan]

ekdrifter bhi tell me about after market cv joint of mehran , i am fed up with cv joint problem , have been repair once and once been replace by new chinese one , but both wont work , today i visit suzuki 3s rawalpindi and they are selling original cv joints in 19K for pair , its too expensive aur sach me atna ke to mere mehran bhe nahi haa , tell me what to do

[digitalmohsin]

ekdrifter bhi tell me about after market cv joint of mehran , i am fed up with cv joint problem , have been repair once and once been replace by new chinese one , but both wont work , today i visit suzuki 3s rawalpindi and they are selling original cv joints in 19K for pair , its too expensive aur sach me atna ke to mere mehran bhe nahi haa , tell me what to do

yar get a good quality cv joint. desi na lay lena. go to a good shop for cv joint. also check for any other problem you might have like kanghi (i dont know the english word for it; thats what ustad says) or wishbones plus shocks....get everything inspected.

[Xulfiqar]

ekdrifter bhi tell me about after market cv joint of mehran , i am fed up with cv joint problem , have been repair once and once been replace by new chinese one , but both wont work , today i visit suzuki 3s rawalpindi and they are selling original cv joints in 19K for pair , its too expensive aur sach me atna ke to mere mehran bhe nahi haa , tell me what to do

Buy a good branded joint and only fill it will the original supplied grease tube, DO NOT OVERFILL as it will blow out the boot, The major problem that can take out a CV Joint quick is bad alignment, the joint when straight is actually not moving - its just sitting there rotating as a whole assembly, When the wheels are turned only then the joint works. So if your alignment is off then your joints would be constantly working and wearing themselves out.Yes original CVJs are expensive for Mehran and Khyber etc, 19 to 20K is about right. They would be OE parts and would include the shaft too, the alternative parts are just the jointsAlso pay attention when the wheel bearings are being fit - the bearings are two cartridges, the original setup has the bearing seals missing on inner sides and an oil seal on the hub inside too. That oil seal is only available at Suzuki - for some reason parts shop dont carry it. The bearings requirement is C3 clearance (cant recall correctly) with rubber seals to keep dirt out. The centre voids are filled with grease to aid in grease rolling. Its the same procedure for rears.

[Xulfiqar]

For relays - use new Genuine Bosch relays - buy them at the parts market, they come with holder ears for you to mount them, buy their holders too and you can easily remove the pins from your old connector holder to the new bosch connector. They never go bad and are 40A compared to your original cheesy 20A "thaki howee relay"

[ekdrifter]

ekdrifter bhi tell me about after market cv joint of mehran , i am fed up with cv joint problem , have been repair once and once been replace by new chinese one , but both wont work , today i visit suzuki 3s rawalpindi and they are selling original cv joints in 19K for pair , its too expensive aur sach me atna ke to mere mehran bhe nahi haa , tell me what to do

bhai first of all check the parts company has and then try to find same part with same box and every thing from saddar pindi or islamabad im sure in 2-3K u will get same CV's and good quality ones are 2200 a set i had them and worked fine till i got rid of the car
my car had a shock problem and new in dealership was 11K same thing i got for 3K in open parts market

[ekdrifter]

yar get a good quality cv joint. desi na lay lena. go to a good shop for cv joint. also check for any other problem you might have like kanghi (i dont know the english word for it; thats what ustad says) or wishbones plus shocks....get everything inspected.

i think u mean CHIMTAY lol
steering box kabuli 1600rs
chimtay wishbones kabuli 850 a set and SGP genuine bushes 400 a set
these are things for front hissa

[ekdrifter]

For relays - use new Genuine Bosch relays - buy them at the parts market, they come with holder ears for you to mount them, buy their holders too and you can easily remove the pins from your old connector holder to the new bosch connector. They never go bad and are 40A compared to your original cheesy 20A "thaki howee relay"

Sir i used Denso Toyota Relays fir every thing in my mehran from cd to head light to Fan and bosh ones i havent came across but denso ones can be installed with ease with wiring coming at the bottom and can work good 2 years

[Xulfiqar]

2 years is terribly short life for any relay (that is why the round barrel denso 20A relays are thaki howi) You must be buying used relays from a scrap dealer, you can buy Bosch or Siemens relays from the same scrappie - ask him for "choras/chokor/dibbi/bosh wali relay - they are very robust design and I have not faced any failure of them in years. (SIemens wiring is different so pay attention while installing) - You can also find Bosch in 70A, 90A or even 150A relay - but they are expensive. For fun - find a corolla EE100 owner and inspect the cooling fan relay - its a green bosch cut off relay made in Germany with a toyota part no, on its side, and its always on whenever the key is ON - it only switches off when the fan works - Its a sign of its durabilityYou can also buy them brand new - but they cost Rs 1000/each complete with connector and some wires and even spare spade connectors for you to make your own wiring. They come in a SPDT usually, just leave out the 5th point or use it to ground a circuit for safety like the old toyotas have.

[ekdrifter]

2 years is terribly short life for any relay (that is why the round barrel denso 20A relays are thaki howi) You must be buying used relays from a scrap dealer, you can buy Bosch or Siemens relays from the same scrappie - ask him for "choras/chokor/dibbi/bosh wali relay - they are very robust design and I have not faced any failure of them in years. (SIemens wiring is different so pay attention while installing) - You can also find Bosch in 70A, 90A or even 150A relay - but they are expensive. For fun - find a corolla EE100 owner and inspect the cooling fan relay - its a green bosch cut off relay made in Germany with a toyota part no, on its side, and its always on whenever the key is ON - it only switches off when the fan works - Its a sign of its durabilityYou can also buy them brand new - but they cost Rs 1000/each complete with connector and some wires and even spare spade connectors for you to make your own wiring. They come in a SPDT usually, just leave out the 5th point or use it to ground a circuit for safety like the old toyotas have.

that was due to failed radiator water coming out of bottle else i got them for head lights and were working for a long time

[Xulfiqar]

what was the relay doing near the radiator overflow bottle?

[ekdrifter]

what was the relay doing near the radiator overflow bottle?

electrification ustad could not find a better place
once battery overflowed it did the damage to fan relay
then i got rid of the car

[ubaidnizami]

wanna know the price of ultima 8mm wire for mehran, and good spark plugs,????

[sonu_14]

i am going to buy a MAhran ... thats my first car ... Any Suggestion or tips i should keep in mind while buying it ? ....

[Xulfiqar]

electrification ustad could not find a better place once battery overflowed it did the damage to fan relay then i got rid of the car

that is why you do "electrification" yourself - and if you need a relay added then why not mount it on the firewall like the A/C relays or the shock tower, you can buy a denso relay rubber "sock" and can bend a piece of metal that holds that sock in place, simples...Any person claiming to work on car electrics putting a relay near coolant sources or battery overflow sources without safety/diversion does not have all screws in place.

[ekdrifter]

that is why you do "electrification" yourself - and if you need a relay added then why not mount it on the firewall like the A/C relays or the shock tower, you can buy a denso relay rubber "sock" and can bend a piece of metal that holds that sock in place, simples...Any person claiming to work on car electrics putting a relay near coolant sources or battery overflow sources without safety/diversion does not have all screws in place.

yes i did installed relays to headlights the ustaz did wiriing but i insisted him to install both relays in the dashboard as usual he was going all nuts just by putting relays behind head lights

[ekdrifter]

wanna know the price of ultima 8mm wire for mehran, and good spark plugs,????

8mm will cost about 650rs a set
spark plugs NGK V power 400rs for 3 plugs

[ekdrifter]

i am going to buy a MAhran ... thats my first car ... Any Suggestion or tips i should keep in mind while buying it ? ....

if ur buying a new one then go ahead
in used ones check
1 suspension any sound during ruff treavling
2 Frame check both arms are staright
3 engine any sign of leaks
4 door hinges aka kabzy
5 both axels and gear box
6 radiator
and at the last thing which our ustadz check first JENIAN PAint

[digitalmohsin]

Your comments regarding the incident

I think it got hit by a bicycle.

[meh1]

imagine Pak Suzuki has packed this tin daba with a more powerful engine that means more pickup and top speed and same brakes and body. and we people are buying this madly.....