Use WATER to get better CNG (Hydrogen), But Market Crocodiles wont let...

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Use WATER to get better CNG (Hydrogen), But Market Crocodiles wont let...

Yes Dears,

It's only monopolist and Corrupt industrialists WHO don't let technology benefit people cheaply, it's really possible, any Engineer in forum to try, one who can take risk as well

1 - It's more powerful, the compressed hydrogen (gas) as we have CNG (Compressed Natural Gas). They have tried this in trucks as they say.
AND it's not a lie, surely possible.

2 - It's more environment friendly, Oxygen is released.

3 - It's more cheap, you know (Panri yaar)

4 - They don't want to give ETHANOL fuel, which is blend with Petrol and much cheaper. Many countries using already.

Remember CHERRY QQ was coming at lower rate equal to Mehran but they were not allowed, you know which powers...

See below link

http://water4gas.com/2books.htm?hop=rajajang


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[fasfas]

That's why, it's in DIY whoever is doing but people are doing it man,
Study and Search for Brown's gas.

They add KOH or NaOH (chemicals) to make water electrolyte
Pulse the battery current, by using inverter or DC impulse device
Electrodes of Stainless Steel 316L, or 302/304
Use it on demand as storage is dangerous of pure hydrogen
For EFIs using additional MAP sensors to regulate the QTYs.
Add safety feature by Check Valves and some function of Vacuum (need some details ...)

Studies on track but a bit slow as jobbers can't easily...and I am not an Eng.

Very informative and experiences,

READ the article and the comments of person with 120 Volts.

How much electricity is required to create the electrolysis necessary to extract hydrogen from water? | Zero-Point Recovery

[ngen]

tried HH2O ...
tried the magnet on the fuel line to "ionize the petrol particles"
tried the variable resitor on sensors to fool engine computer on temperature of car etc...

none of them do what they say they will do ... please don't waste your money on any of these items.

[syd]

lollxx@poster
brother even though you are right to some extent i would like to clarify a few things
one this is not to use hydrogen this setup produces browns gas (HHO) which can run as a SUPPLIMENT with petrol
two this is an incomplete setup i have read their book same one brother is telling i have that if any one want i can also send free of charge
three what this setup needs is a little advanced electronic circuit i also have its diagrams if some one is interested in DIY project can mail him free of charge

four this is inefficient if you ask me it reduces petrol consumption but not totally wipes petrol out
fifth im workin on plasmatic energy to use in engine hope that comes off good if so MAY BE we can say there is a huge change

i have this system running in my khyber for last months

tried HH2O ...
tried the magnet on the fuel line to "ionize the petrol particles"
tried the variable resitor on sensors to fool engine computer on temperature of car etc...

none of them do what they say they will do ... please don't waste your money on any of these items.

brother this was not a waste for me if you ask this book provided basis of my work and yes this system can work im telling again
with HHO spark plug in there secondly with volt multipliers
we need to make 20k volts of electricity to generate this reaction
we can do it from 12 volt battery

[fasfas]

Hi syd

Can you post the snaps of the Water4Gas system you used if available and materials list + QTY used in it. Yes it reduces the cost, purpose is that at the moment. still it's a benefit.

Please create new thread for posting about "plasmatic energy", to share the knowledge and awareness etc.

[tanny159753]

I have just installed a HHO kit like the one in the first post (water4gas). Car is a corolla 2.0D 2005. I only measure full tabkful's of fuel to get a more accurate mileage. So far, after 3/4 tank run on diesel and about the 1/4 run on hho/diesel mix.

Results not yet determined though. I am getting the same mileage as normal diesel but I have also had the car started for about 2 hours with the ac on while tinkering to get the right supply rate of gas. So overall I think I have gained something.

My my gas rate is set, my next tank will tell.
PS - all the smart asses who say it would not work because its takes more energy to split water into gas than the energy we are getting back? True but we are using the HHo gas as a catalyst for the diesel to burn more completely.

[fasfas]

Dear PakWheelers,

What about the new wave, on Capital Talk Engineer showed it purely running on Water without other fuel mixture.

Bringing my old thread alive...

BR/

[talhawaleed]

Use WATER to get better CNG (Hydrogen), But Market Crocodiles wont let...

Yes Dears,

It's only monopolist and Corrupt industrialists WHO don't let technology benefit people cheaply, it's really possible, any Engineer in forum to try, one who can take risk as well

1 - It's more powerful, the compressed hydrogen (gas) as we have CNG (Compressed Natural Gas). They have tried this in trucks as they say.
AND it's not a lie, surely possible.

2 - It's more environment friendly, Oxygen is released.

3 - It's more cheap, you know (Panri yaar)

4 - They don't want to give ETHANOL fuel, which is blend with Petrol and much cheaper. Many countries using already.

Remember CHERRY QQ was coming at lower rate equal to Mehran but they were not allowed, you know which powers...

See below link

http://water4gas.com/2books.htm?hop=rajajang


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Basically, research on hydrogen as energy source and use in internal combustion engine has already been concluded.

Now, problem is that you have opened a debate here and how would you argue with people with no knowledge or people who wont be able to understand once you will direct them to research papers published and present on US Department of Transportation Website.

It’s not a religion, that you will argue and it would increase your good deeds.

[VCheng]

Basically, research on hydrogen as energy source and use in internal combustion engine has already been concluded. .............

The use of hydrogen as a fuel source is recognized. The important question is how to generate the hydrogen for use in the engine.

Getting hydrogen by onboard electrolysis of water simply does not and can not work due to the simple uncontestable fact that it takes more energy to break down water than can be obtained by combusting hydrogen or using it in a fuel cell.

Please carry on the discussion here:

Pakistani makes car that runs on water