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    Default Charade 84 A/C Tips

    I have bought a 2 door charade
    model 83/84...the body is in genuine condition
    ...it was heated just in 2 days usage...and
    i came to know tht the radiator was of 660cc alto and was not working good for charade...i now
    installed margalla radiator...replaced the gaskit...the engine isnt going good...very kamzoor
    acceleration..

    ..the mechanic told me that there is no fun in installing A/C as A/C is flop in charade...plz guide
    me if its true???

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    Yar men to Charade lay kr kangla ho gya tha.......I bought dadoo model 1988 quota 1994 Diesel Turbo in 1,30,0000.........ap yaqeen kro mera I spent 1,10,000 more trust men It totally costed me 2,40.000 or in six months I overhauled 3 times.

    3 dafa heat hoi (finally i replaced the raditor I bough a geniune starlet raditor in 4200 rupees with fans....it was excelent) even then AC failed.
    Her dafa heat honey per experiments krt thy, kbi desi headgas kit, kbi japani, kabi double headgas kit, kabhi head naya lo 9000 ka, kabhi koi drama kbhi koi..........

    2 dafa timing belt toti.......saaly 2 no lahori fraud krty hn.....I paid double and asked for Genuine one but they all r f**ked up....finally Multan sy orignal parts lye aik janey waley sy....otherwise het dafa 6000-9000 thokty thy timing belt totny pr....

    3 times trubo sucked the oil on highway......men merta merta bacha hn 3 dafa highway..due to that f**ked up engine or her dafa 20,000 thokta tha......turbo change kya costed me 5,000. But no luck.......

    Finally I went to my home town at Multan where I spent again 20.000 with Geniune parts and then I sold it in 1,50,000.

    90,000 loss kya, 6 months ka mentlal torture mila......Oh god that was the bad time of my life.

    If you have the diesel engine, uss saley ko bahir nikal kr pehank do or buy a kabli patrol one with CNG. Install a good raditor or phr AC bhi chaly ga.

    Ya its better to sell it if its diesel and buy a patrol one to save your life. Otherwise this will suck your pocket and bank balance.

    I have seen 4 chardes in my family, only one lucky got no problem all others has loosed alot.
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    or han aap local jali (raditor) na lena. this will cost you 3500 and performance nill.

    Simply go to kabli parts market and find a full zie raditor that fits to your car size.

    In my 88 charade, the toyota starlet raditor was best fit, find your match there or hand measure your available space for Raditor before you go to buy and check the size and fitting before you make payment.

    Only buy it with original fans and brakits. For the time being, remove AC condenser from front if any.

    Agar phr bhi engine heat ho or ye diesel engine ho to plz sell it out and find a patrol one.
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    @arazas
    I had a charade 86 diesel for about 4 years and you're right it eats your money like anything. But surprisingly the only problem I didn't have was with the engine. It lasted the whole 4 years without any problem. And I used the A/C a lot.

    After 4 years the rings had become weak and I heard that the guy who bought it from he had them replaced.

    The charade diesel engine is a death trap. It is very prone to overheating. You have to be really careful with this car if you want it to last.
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    Well my deto was doing great for about 4 years until I turned on the AC just a week back........... it heats up like anything.............. The radiator was recently cleaned........ the fan's speed was increased......... and when it's totally ok without ac then why is that it totally gets to hazardous levels of heat with the ac on?????????? man m confused..........
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    AC Condenser gets over heated due to some problem with AC functioning.

    Reasons can be

    - insufficient air going through condenser.

    - Gas pressure in AC is not optimum (it happened with me in Nissan)

    - Compressor is overloaded.

    - AC Filter bottle is choked.

    In simple words, condensor shuld not feel overheated

    It usually happens with cars with underpowered engines or where an attempt is made to put on a big AC with small engine
    Keep a cool head and wear seatbelts!

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    Well i got 3 channel local made radiator in my Petrol/CNG Charade and the heat needle stays near to bottom even with A/C on woh dosri baat hai my a/c puts hell a lot of load on the car but not cooling that much :p

    Last week it was heating up a bit with A/C touching half and i just got the radiator washed it was blocked and its back to its normal level like it was last year almost near the bottom heat level.

    I am attaching pic.

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    i got it in petrol / cng

    the fact was tht i was fed up with keeping
    khyber...

    the car is no more heating with margalla
    radiator...but i think i have to get the
    engine overhauled for perfect pick...

    Can any other engine be swapped in
    in place of original charade petrol??

    plz guide

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    I have heard that it can be replaced with Toyota starlet engine.
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    Well its better u go for overhaul if your engine can be overhauled i can give you contact no of my mechanic he is good and can suggest u a better option but rem Charade swap will be around 22k if you gear box also needs to be replaced or around 18 to 20 if gear box is fine.

    Overhaul will be around 16K thats my guess i recently got my engine rings and gaskit and other parts changed but my engine was in great shape everything at standard and it was opened for 1st time so we just put new rings and its working great. I spent around 7k to 8k on this job.
    Speed costs money, how fast can you afford to go.

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    If ur engine is not giving smoke or decreasing oil level than engine might be fine you just have to tune other things i guess for better pickup and all..

    Swaping engine to starlet one might cost you upto 40k.
    Speed costs money, how fast can you afford to go.

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    Charade patrol engine is much good, My father used Patrol charade in 1995 and it was kool but all diesel charade experience were worst.
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    The engine is not giving any smoke

    It just need oil change...and also have to
    stop oil leakage ...i see drops every morning
    on floor....

    Rest A/C stuff is installed with no gas...shud
    i put in gas or leave it? as i was adviced tht
    u cant get any good output from charade A/C

    Im confused as i need A/C

    Also i think i shud go for overhauling..putting new
    pistons and rings...then swapping engine

    the engine is starting on adhi chabi without
    any accelrator pressed...i just got two ngk
    new plugs installed and now its starting so
    smoothly...

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    The CNG consumption is much better than my
    old khyber too...with khyber i was not satisfied
    with its CNG consumption...

    i have kept 2 khyber 1 japnese 1 pakistani
    assemled and i must say japanese was a pleasure
    in driving as compared to pakistani...

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    Well Charade AC works fine if its is installed configured properly and you have to spent some money to get it working smothly.

    If you can spend some money and want to keep this car than ya karwa lo overhaul warna repair karwa lo oil leakage waghaira.
    Speed costs money, how fast can you afford to go.

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    any goode a/c workshop u know in rwp?

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    Well i have 86 Charade Petrol/Cng mostly with genuine parts radiator is also genuine so never heated up. Engine rings were weak so few days back i have changed them it cost me around 6K

    Lets c wot happen when i will turn on the AC, Condensor fitting every thing is genuine

    i m thinking about the radiator service before AC service
    I am not driving fast, Um flying low

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    Yaar there is Nasir Car AC in sadar rawalpindi he is fine.

    The guy i go to he is in chor chowk i mean he dun have a proper a/c shop and all but he will keep on workin on ur ac as long as it starts to work properly.
    Speed costs money, how fast can you afford to go.

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    Thanks for ur help
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    by the way which car u having?

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