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Old 22-10-2009, 11:16 AM  
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Any updates? Any pakwheeler from there?





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Two Pakistan army men killed in Islamabad firing



Updated at: 0913 PST, Thursday, October 22, 2009
ISLAMABAD: At least two army soldiers have embraced martyred and one sustained bullet-inflicted wounds as two unknown armed miscreants, riding motorcycle, opened fire on an army jeep, which was on its way in G-11 Sector in Islamabad, rescue sources said early on Thursday morning.

Eyewitnesses said unknown miscreants, aged between 22 to 25 years, succeeded to flee after carrying out deadly ambush on an army jeep.

According to SHO police Inayat, one among dead army men was Brigadier Moin, meanwhile, police have launched search operation in order to locate fleeing militants.

Police said their parties have cordoned off the entire area but no official version over the incident has come to surface as yet.

All the police checkposts, located nearby, have been put on high alert, meanwhile, the investigation into the incident has commenced, sources said.

It is pertinent to mention that G-11 Sector is the residential area of top army officials in Islamabad while pillion riding is also already banned in federal capital.

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Old 22-10-2009, 07:01 PM   #21 (permalink)
 
 
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@Storm - exactly. Because the haphazard sequence of the bombings don't suggest that they are owned by some Islamist millitants. They are not as 'targetted' towards a specific sector as they should've been incase of any ideological movement. The Islamic Millitants may be used in it - they're un-employed after the RUS-Afghan war. Moreover you can find a million people in Pakistan who think that after the rape of their daughter by a wadera, or the killing of their sons by local nazim, or the death of their mother in the hands of incompetent medical staff, their lives have become pointless. THey're already willing to kill themselves - only this time, they get a dozen million for blowing themselves up in public. I used to snap at people when they blamed everything on America. But this time, I really believe that it is being conducted on their end to fail Pakistan as a state, and strengthen their excuse of entering Pakistan with full force. I was surprised when a couple of years ago, I saw some Iraqis stoning Saddams statue and bringin it down. Americans are preparing similar people out of us, who would be so sick of the mulki condition and the rulers and the army, that they'd get out and start burning parliaments and GHQs. A handful of people stoned saddams statue in Iraq, but it was shown all over the world just to justify the notion that ''we are here to save Iraqis from the wicked ruler who they hated so much''. I've already heard some groups of people saying ''Yaar, chalti to america ki hi hai idher, why shouldn't we officially make Pakistan an American colony...atleast visa to araam se mil jaya karay ga''

Only the dead has seen the end of war - For us; Its just the beginning..!! Prepare yourself..all the politics and ****...will go out of the window once a bullet is through your head....Pak Army men are War Junkies? No...They dont fight to kill...they fight for the person beside & behind them!! & thats why you will fight if the war knocks on your door! Hope it doesnt...


Plenty of BS out there..its not a matter of could be or should be....atleast I dont see the people winning no war!! Trust me...He earned himself good money!! Few soldiers lost their blood but thats what they signed up for...People?! The can't win and they can't protest why?! The whole city is Weaponized ..too afraid to got out and make a stand from themselves!!
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Old 22-10-2009, 07:03 PM   #22 (permalink)
 
 
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Old 23-10-2009, 05:06 AM   #23 (permalink)
 
 
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conditions have gone worst since we have been hearing about the presence of foriegn agiences like black water in Islamabad. What are they exactly for. I usually think it is them who are doing such attackes in our capital. They all go unchecked and every other sinlge car is inspected then it's realy easy for them to create a chaos.


Just wondering there everytime condition marshal law used to take place what's happening now.


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Old 23-10-2009, 11:50 AM   #24 (permalink)
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There is an excessive need for understanding that like our democratic leaders, our police and other domestic secrity forces have never been trained to cope such situation. Assmuing the role of mullahs, the police is always interested to scratch for Nikah forms from two siblings going to a supermarket or a funeral. Similary, they are more eager to catch who is watching the adult movies (without them) rather than who is preaching hate or who is driving the smuggled vehicles.The are trained to walk with the VVIPs but never really told what to do in the disaster situation. They know nothing, from the simple CPR techniques to shooting staright with best possible precision. Unfortunately, we can spend more money on the Jamwhoreyetee leaders but not on replacing the decades old rifles the seurity forces are using.


Its a shame but the fact is that we probably, have the worlds least resourceful police with the worst training, who is finghting the toughest possible battle in the modern warefare.





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@Storm - exactly. Because the haphazard sequence of the bombings don't suggest that they are owned by some Islamist millitants. They are not as 'targetted' towards a specific sector as they should've been incase of any ideological movement. The Islamic Millitants may be used in it - they're un-employed after the RUS-Afghan war. Moreover you can find a million people in Pakistan who think that after the rape of their daughter by a wadera, or the killing of their sons by local nazim, or the death of their mother in the hands of incompetent medical staff, their lives have become pointless. THey're already willing to kill themselves - only this time, they get a dozen million for blowing themselves up in public. I used to snap at people when they blamed everything on America. But this time, I really believe that it is being conducted on their end to fail Pakistan as a state, and strengthen their excuse of entering Pakistan with full force. I was surprised when a couple of years ago, I saw some Iraqis stoning Saddams statue and bringin it down. Americans are preparing similar people out of us, who would be so sick of the mulki condition and the rulers and the army, that they'd get out and start burning parliaments and GHQs. A handful of people stoned saddams statue in Iraq, but it was shown all over the world just to justify the notion that ''we are here to save Iraqis from the wicked ruler who they hated so much''. I've already heard some groups of people saying ''Yaar, chalti to america ki hi hai idher, why shouldn't we officially make Pakistan an American colony...atleast visa to araam se mil jaya karay ga''

An Islamic (sadly, as they call themselves) militant/terrorist can do the same after robbing a bank or receiving ransom of millions of rupees.


In the last sentence replace can do with has done.


Stay in your cocoon, watch and hear the holy scriptures of the conspiracy theories (without any tangible proofs) while the ones who face bullets, being laid down.
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Old 23-10-2009, 12:09 PM   #28 (permalink)
 
 
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How much does a walk-through scanner cost?

I mean if do-takkay-ki-grocery-shops can install them, why can't the security forces install them rather than risking 8-10 security officers who usually die when someone blows himself up upon their demand of proving identity?

Let the people walk through those scanners while the security guys may sit in an explosion proof cabin nearby to inspect and monitor.
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Old 23-10-2009, 12:26 PM   #29 (permalink)
 
 
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there's no end to this futile debate...


the present situation is as dismal as it could possibly get and the worse is yet to come..


Just brace yourselves and get used to all this $hit.. Thanks to "You Know Who"


btw Pakistan is a Nuclear Power, why doesnt it use its own nuclear weapons on itself?


reminds me of me doing the same when I used to play C&C Generals.. when the opponent's army would attack my base and I would have no more units to counter that attack, I would then use my own Nuclear Weapon on my own base, destroying the opponent's units as well as my own Base.. :d LOL!
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Old 23-10-2009, 12:29 PM   #30 (permalink)
 
 
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^^^Difference is, that was a game and this is real life
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Nop, they have made a game out of real life too..
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Old 23-10-2009, 12:35 PM   #32 (permalink)
 
 
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and btw, if launching military operations in your own country is fine, then I guess by those standards, using your own Nukes on yourself is also fine..
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Old 23-10-2009, 01:14 PM   #33 (permalink)
 
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Inna lillah hey wainna alyehay rajaoon.

Having said that,i was wondering wat else v r doing??Or wat if v r faced with such situation ourselves??
As for the so called "security blanket"in capital,While coming from pindi to isb on 9th avenue today, there is a security checkpost near the peshawer more signal (which in fact has been established there after G11 firing),And 100 metres before it there is an exit which can take to u the old road linking i-8,i-9 and peshawer road (which has all the plant nurseries on it),i took that road due to huge traffic blockage near checkpost and to my surprise i by-passed the checkpost without any problem.And i was wondering wat is the purpose of these checkposts rather then wasting common man's time and money if ppl (and terrorist) can by-pass them??
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most ppl at security checkpost won't stop you and if they stop you they will ask you to open the trunk of your car....while you can have as much explosives and guns and ammo under your seat. they NEVER ever check under the seats :\

P.S if you can't manage anything. then install CCTV cam's in islamabad, just like they have in UK. its a small city.
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Old 23-10-2009, 06:57 PM   #35 (permalink)
 
 
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AOA

I have seen people arguing with the security post guys if they look a little deep inside the car. We as a nation are very ill disciplined. usually consider as a matter of "izzat" "beizzati" if some police man checks our cars.
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Why they do not check the Americans??
4 american nationals were arrested few days ago carrying weapons. there was fake number plate on their vehicle.
they were arrested but unfortunately came out from the bars within 2 hours.

America, India and Afghanistan are behind these blasts and terrorist attacks.
Especially black water and RAW.
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