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    I just test drove new Pakistan assembled Toyota Fortuner 2013. Here's my review of the vehicle along with some pictures I was able to take.

    Exterior: 7/10 - I saw the one in dark gray mica color and it looked pretty nice. It has a fresh design with nice curves and style. I would personally prefer white color though.

    Dashboard: 5/10 - Those driving Civics, Premios, Mark X and Surf are not going to be excited about it. It's pretty basic. Although they have given leather steering and black piano trim it still doesn't spark. DVD, gear and speedometer is also average. Nothing stands out.

    Interior: 6/10 - Tan leather seats and overall ambiance inside the cabin gives it a nice look and there's nothing out of ordinary. However, it feel pretty congested and 3 normal sized people would be tight sitting in the 2nd row. 3rd row is very tight and only 10-12 year old children would fit in there.

    Drive: 5/10 - It felt quite stiff and heavy. You cannot compare it's ride to Prado or Land Cruiser. At a speed of 100 km/hr it didn't feel very stable on a bumpy road. I believe it will have stability issues on motor way where there are heavy gusts of wind in some areas as well as on curvy roads at high speeds.

    Engine: 6/10 - The engine isn't under powered; it's just about the right size. It didn't feel sluggish. You won't be able to drag race it with Corolla or Civic though. I know we are going to complain about fuel consumption because it's all time 4WD which isn't going to be a good idea since it's a city car.

    Price: 4/10 - Now it all comes down to the price which IMC hasn't announced yet but most probably it's 5.2 million. So the question is how much are you willing to throw away for a car that's 6/10 in Pakistani market. Since we have seen comparison of prices of Fortuner with other countries in different threads I am going to repeat the same thing. After seeing and driving it I am more convinced that this car belongs in around 4.2 million bracket. My limit to purchase this car would be 4.5 million. There's no way I am spending 5.2 million on it and after taxes and registration it would be around 5.8 million. Sorry, IMC but I am not up for that.

    Bottom line: All in all it's not a bad car to own and drive but it felt like an upgrade or big brother of Vigo and then it all comes down to value for money. You need to see what you get in return of the money you spend. I would personally either prefer a Surf or a Mercedes in 4 million range and if I have to spend close to 6 million then I am going for a Prado. Yes, there are people who would buy it for even 7 million and consider it a good price for a "brand new" car but I am not willing to go down that road. IMC would have difficult time selling it over 4.5 million. The Sales Manager at Toyota dealership also said that this car will sell itself at 4.5 million but at 5.2 million it will be very difficult. Initially they might get a good response but it will eventually slow down.

    Price Comparison: I did a small price comparison with different countries. I used current foreign currency exchange rate. I wonder why is there a minor difference in the price of Altis and Fortuner in other countries and why do we have to pay almost 3 times in Pakistan for Fortuner? I believe that's because Fortuner is not considered a luxury car in other countries and they think of it as an upgrade to a pickup truck. You can see Altis is cheaper in Pakistan than most of the countries then why not Fortuner?


    Country Altis 1.8L Fortuner 2.7L
    India 2,616,838 4,041,730
    Thailand 2,957,710 4,158,560
    UAE 1,909,050 3,404,250
    Philippines 2,795,100 3,334,760
    Pakistan 2,084,000 5,175,000

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    vigo is much lighter than fortuner...........2.7 thai vigo at 2wd gives 6km/litre then what would this give us? ?? ?? 4 km/litre??

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    ^ Dude, Get over it, everything in life doesnt goes like you want it tobe, If Toyota Fortuner is being made and being sold under Toyotas tag obviusly Toyota Japan knows about it, You dont like it, dont buy it, Stop saying the same thing again again.

    Nobody can use the Toyota name without Toyota knowing it,

    In other markets instead of the Fortuner they are selling the 4Runner. Yes The 4runner is also a renamed/redesigned Surf, But orignaly Surf comes from the chasis.


    And adding the cabin to your Vigo, Why are even spending that much on a Vigo? Simply attach another Mehran to a Mehran 10-12 Lacks, you can carry 10 people.

    While designing a car/Suv truck some physics is to be thought of, you cant simply put a metal box over anything.
    Get over the fact that Xli lacks power windows, Its an Xli because it lacks thoose features or else it would be a Gli or an Altis if had all the goodies.

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    If fuel consumption is 5-6 km/L then we are going to have a big problem. Even Land Cruiser doesn't have that kind of average. With an efficient engine of same capacity you should be getting 10-12 km/L
    There are two things that we are uncertain about and we should be asking dealers. Both these things are not mentioned in their brochure.
    1.) Fuel average with all time 4WD
    2.) Vehicle stability technology to avoid roll over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chinyoti View Post
    ^ Dude, Get over it, everything in life doesnt goes like you want it tobe, If Toyota Fortuner is being made and being sold under Toyotas tag obviusly Toyota Japan knows about it, You dont like it, dont buy it, Stop saying the same thing again again.

    Nobody can use the Toyota name without Toyota knowing it,

    In other markets instead of the Fortuner they are selling the 4Runner. Yes The 4runner is also a renamed/redesigned Surf, But orignaly Surf comes from the chasis.


    And adding the cabin to your Vigo, Why are even spending that much on a Vigo? Simply attach another Mehran to a Mehran 10-12 Lacks, you can carry 10 people.

    While designing a car/Suv truck some physics is to be thought of, you cant simply put a metal box over anything.




    mr. chinyoti you have been defending IMC for quite some time now. do you work for them ?? if you do plz let us know we want to talk to the people of IMC.






    if i dont like it, i wont buy it. and ill put the word out why i ddnt buy it so nobody else gets ripped off.






    "And adding the cabin to your Vigo, Why are even spending that much on a Vigo? Simply attach another Mehran to a Mehran 10-12 Lacks, you can carry 10 people.
    While designing a car/Suv truck some physics is to be thought of, you cant simply put a metal box over anything."






    adding the cabin to vigo because thats what fortuner is. can you say it isnt the same chasis? same interior? no.
    just a hilux with new body.


    and you are absolutly right there should have been some physics involved when thailand engineers designed the fortuner. but no. they just put a metal box over hilux chasis.


    and the result is fortuner is UNSTABLE. it has killed many and will continue to kill. for proof you may head upto the links.


    the title says : Fortuner : will it kill ?


    Toyota Fortuner rollover problem: will it kill? | Kaptein Caprivi blogs...

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    If fuel consumption is 5-6 km/L then we are going to have a big problem. Even Land Cruiser doesn't have that kind of average. With an efficient engine of same capacity you should be getting 10-12 km/L
    There are two things that we are uncertain about and we should be asking dealers. Both these things are not mentioned in their brochure.
    1.) Fuel average with all time 4WD
    2.) Vehicle stability technology to avoid roll over.

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    i know prado to give 5km/l

    while we are asking questions.....lets ask another one...

    my altis has 4 wheel disc brakes.

    fortuner is much bigger than an altis...... but it gets only 2 disk brakes. how is the braking of the fortuner ????

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    Chinyoti bhai chill karian. We have the right to raise our voice against injustice. Most of us have been waiting for a while for Fortuner and now IMC comes out with their cunning tactics to not announce a price but instead spreads rumors about price starting from 6 million then 5.5 million and now 5.2 million. Do you think it's right?
    We are just pointing out malicious tactics of IMC. They can sell Altis cheaper compared to other countries because it doesn't have enough sales because of Civic but decided to price Fortuner high because there is no competition in that segment and they want to take home huge profits.
    Mehran attach kernay ka idea bura nahi. Why don't I buy 2 Altis in this price and combine their engines to make it 3.6L car with 10 people to sit in it? I'll still be saving around 1 million. How's that for an idea?

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    Toyota Fortuner nearly kills | Kaptein Caprivi blogs...

    below link states the recall toyota did when fortuners started rolling over......they added VSC and ESP....which i believe is not present in pakistani fortuner.


    Toyota Fortuner crashes, Air bags did not deploy *EDIT* Another similar case Pg.7 - Page 4 - Team-BHP

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    Qoute from Toyota Fortuner nearly kills | Kaptein Caprivi blogs...

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    April 14th, 2012 at 18 pmFortuner’s are a potential death trap.I have owned two.The first was written off after a car hill it from the side and the impact cause the Fortuner to veer into the oncoming lane.The replacement within weeks of purchase the Fortuner would activate the EBD which would cause the vehicle to veer to the right.Initially it could be controlled however lately it has gone out of control by veering to the right ,activateing the EBD and then going in a spin or more.Once going up the Kei River Mountain Pass it spin 4 times across the N3 before I was able to gain controll.When reported to Toyota they had little concern.The second time also on the National Road it again activated the EBD and spun .This time the road was narrower and the fortuner when down a mountain before been controlled.
    Both these incidents have occurred on wet to slightly wet tar roads
    during the day and going uphill.in both instances speed was not a factor and the road surface had no potholes or other.

    We tested another car on the same road and activated its EBD and it work -no spin just a warn sound.

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    Qoute from: Toyota Fortuner nearly kills | Kaptein Caprivi blogs...


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    January 6th, 2012 at 9:38 amA close friend of mine including his wife and mother in law is currently laying in ICU (milpark hospital) due to a near fatal accident due to his 2008 Toyota fortuner. He was traveling on a gravel road in Namibia a near week ago when the vehicle slid off the road and rolled several times. This left his wife paralised as she broke her back in two places, broke her shoulder and hand. My friend broke a neck vertabra and fractured another, broke his hand and wrist on 5 places, badly brused face and very traumatised. His mother in law broke both legs, 5 ribs on one side and a few on the other and is in an induced coma. Badly brused face…. His father in law were just badly brused up but had to walk kilometres without shoes in tempratures of 50 d/c to get cellphone reception just to call for help while his family were laying helpless in the scortching sun between sand and stone.
    The thing is they were traveling very slow. When he purchased the vehicle he was concerned about the stigma surrounding the instability of these vehicles. He was assured by the Toyota sales man that nun of it is true but suggested he upgrade the suspention which he did R12000 later.
    Toyota should be held accountable for these accidents and take responsibility. These vehicles are unsafe and there is definately something wrong.

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    December 14th, 2010 at 11:27 amI came upon this site by chance. My brother lost a friend in a Toyota Fortuner that rolled. He then bought a Toyota bakkie and took my father on a hunting trip. My father drove the vehicle and in a slight curve the rear broke away and my father almost lost control. He came back and told my brother that he should get rid of that rubbish. (We grew up on a farm and had been driving gravel roads for many years.)
    My brother kept the bakkie. Later he and a friend was driving on the highway. The vehicle hit a puddle of water, aquaplaned and rolled. When he confronted Toyota they said he should have done some conversion to the vehicle that would have solved the problem – it would have cost him over R100 000.
    I have since heard of many more people who had similar experiences. It seems that these vehicles also do not “correct” easily. Even on dry tar roads. If you suddenly swerve to avoid a collision you will be PROPERLY TESTED to keep them on their wheels. A friend of mine lost his nephew when a Toyota bakkie rolled when he swerved on the higway.
    There is definately a problem with the Fortuner and other Toyota bakkies with high ground clearance. My brother-in-law worked for Toyota and he told us that they are aware of the problem, but will not budge on fixing it. Some people even refer to them as “Flip-Flops”. They had a feature on an Afrikaans motoring (La’t wiel – or something like that) program of the Fortuner where the driver spoke about the “driver errors” and said they had no problems on dirt roads in Namibia. I still clearly remember the video they showed of the vehicle crawling around a bend in the road – and they want us to believe what they were saying.

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    Toyota Fortuner rollover problem: will it kill? | Kaptein Caprivi blogs...

    The article is old but read the comments that are from 2012 and people are still having issues. Some are suggesting it's all about tyre pressure. I believe Toyota did not add stability technology to the latest model. Looks like we'll be hearing a lot of slip stories in Pakistan.

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    Default old and new fortuners rolled over and kills all


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    Quote Originally Posted by mani9999 View Post
    vigo is much lighter than fortuner...........2.7 thai vigo at 2wd gives 6km/litre then what would this give us? ?? ?? 4 km/litre??
    actually i weighed my thai vigo which is 1850kg n on the brochure of fortuner its from 1825-1875kg...not much difference due to leaf springs of vigo is much heavier than fortuner rear suspension

    btw i think all those fortuner which has flipped over are 2wd....i hope this all 4wd fortuner wont be like this
    My lugnuts require more torque than your Vtec can put out...

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    We need some solid information on vehicle stability control. I don't think 4WD would resolve that but I could be wrong. 4WD would resolve skidding issue but not flipping. In more advanced car they have traction control that doesn't let the car skid. I haven't done much research but I think stability control should also be the same kind of feature.
    We need to ask IMC what design modifications have actually been done in Pakistani Fortuner in order to avoid flipping or if they have added stability control?

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    or we could just ask them which safety tests it has undergone, and what did it score. solid numbers. Ncap rating etc etc........ safety is nothing to joke about when you have your family in the vehicle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chinyoti View Post
    ^ Dude, Get over it, everything in life doesnt goes like you want it tobe, If Toyota Fortuner is being made and being sold under Toyotas tag obviusly Toyota Japan knows about it, You dont like it, dont buy it, Stop saying the same thing again again.

    Nobody can use the Toyota name without Toyota knowing it,

    In other markets instead of the Fortuner they are selling the 4Runner. Yes The 4runner is also a renamed/redesigned Surf, But orignaly Surf comes from the chasis.


    And adding the cabin to your Vigo, Why are even spending that much on a Vigo? Simply attach another Mehran to a Mehran 10-12 Lacks, you can carry 10 people.

    While designing a car/Suv truck some physics is to be thought of, you cant simply put a metal box over anything.
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    if anybody dont like fortuner dont buy it anyone is not forcing u
    n i visit uae last year i saw too many fortuner on road if fortuner has roll over problem why people buy it

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    Quote Originally Posted by pradolover View Post
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    mani9999@
    if anybody dont like fortuner dont buy it anyone is not forcing u
    n i visit uae last year i saw too many fortuner on road if fortuner has roll over problem why people buy it
    exactly tht wat i was thinking if theres so many rollover or flip out problem in fortuner then why its hot seller in another countries such as in gulf countries where most of them r police patrolling SUV, its selling in thailand, far east countries n some african countries too
    My lugnuts require more torque than your Vtec can put out...

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    its a hot seller because its the cheapest suv by toyota in the world...... it is available only in third world countries where safety regulations dont apply or are very much relaxed.... roll over is a big problem on corrugated roads, that is all pakistani roads except motorway. so we would have more rolled over fortuners than any other.
    nobody is forcing me to buy it. im putting the word out to people atleast people should be warned of safety concerns, and if they still buy it dont drive it like a normal suv. it may be worth if a warning can save somebody and their family's life.

    btw the technical problem is the centre of gravity too high, and rear suspension not suitable. something about the frequency of the dampers.

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