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    Default Suzuki internal news regarding Wagon-R and Alto

    From relevent internal " sources " in Pak suzuki .

    i have just been informed that pak-suzuki has successfully imported around 100 prototype WAGON-R 's for display purposes.

    they plan to assemble WAGON-R ( 4th gen ) , and launch it here in Pakistan .

    now ,

    the problem they are facing is that they want to fit ALTO engine in it , and then sell it ...

    but JAPAN has obsoleted that engine , and is unwilling to supply them the engine they want .
    so all their eyes are set on some " trade venture" that is expected to take place shortly between INDIA , and PAKISTAN .
    which will allow them to purchase the engines from MARUTI INDIA.

    it is likely that , either 4th gen WAGON-R would be launched , or the ALTO would be continued.

    final decision has not been taken yet .
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    I dont understand this. Suzuki has a big market share in PAkistan, so why cant they build engines here? I want my country to have the technology. There shoudl be no trade liberalization with Indian in automobile sector. We need policy overhaul so that more investment is encouraged in auto manufcaturing technology.

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    Quote Originally Posted by carfreak4 View Post
    I dont understand this. Suzuki has a big market share in PAkistan, so why cant they build engines here? I want my country to have the technology. There shoudl be no trade liberalization with Indian in automobile sector. We need policy overhaul so that more investment is encouraged in auto manufcaturing technology.
    Trade liberalization with India has its advantages it will result in freight savings and reduced costs as a result of import substitution (e.g cost to import an engine from India will be less than importing from Japan). Given the current state of the auto industry, it will have to either import parts from Japan or India or some other country like Thailand. OEM's have not transferred technology properly to the country and neither has the government negotiated properly with these countries for technology transfer :/ - sad situation but true. On top of it due to the ongoing energy crisis and various other political issues the cost of manufacturing in Pakistan is not competitive either :/

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    any update
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    Any further updates would be received only after that indian trade venture . Plus the cars are due in 2013 Q2 n so there is ample time available inbetween .

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    I have one question from you that why ENGINES are always problem for Suzuki in Pakistan why cant they bring new engines, is that a big problem all companies do this if they can put POtohar engine in Alto then why cant they make that engine EFI as they did with Mehran.

    I dont understand that what the hell Suzuki is doing other new companies are bringing new cars in Local assemble like recently HAJJ group start assembling 1000 cc picks up in Pakistan and Suzuki which is 75% own by Japan and has big pockets cant bring a new small 1000 CC engine?


    Or may be they want to wind up business from Pakistan.
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    what i have gathered after talking to them , the ONLY reason they present is the price ,
    the cost of doing business has tripled in Pakistan , because of energy crises , inflation , devalued currency , and all the economic factors combined .

    and because of all this , they had to raise their prices sufficiently to sustain their ongoing operations ,
    if they bring newer technology engines here , the cost per unit would raise by atleast 120k . which they absolutely do not want to happen in the price dominated area of the market where they rule .

    a meharban for 7 lac plus , and an alto reaching 9 lacs...

    this would kill their market and make people switch to imported cars like KIE , Jap-Alto , WAGON-R and others who will fall below what suzuki would be able to offer.

    so this is the MAIN reason . prevent PRICE INCREASE substantially , and provide the cheapest possible product .
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    Looks like no Wagon R old Alto to continue with new engine

    Carmaker seeks import of parts from India | DAWN.COM

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    Quote Originally Posted by SalmanHanif1 View Post
    Looks like no Wagon R old Alto to continue with new engine

    Carmaker seeks import of parts from India | DAWN.COM
    No may be wagon r and alto both will come but with same engine, this is what suzuki want to do as usuall
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    Quote Originally Posted by mohtashimiqbal View Post
    what i have gathered after talking to them , the ONLY reason they present is the price ,
    the cost of doing business has tripled in Pakistan , because of energy crises , inflation , devalued currency , and all the economic factors combined .

    and because of all this , they had to raise their prices sufficiently to sustain their ongoing operations ,
    if they bring newer technology engines here , the cost per unit would raise by atleast 120k . which they absolutely do not want to happen in the price dominated area of the market where they rule .

    a meharban for 7 lac plus , and an alto reaching 9 lacs...

    this would kill their market and make people switch to imported cars like KIE , Jap-Alto , WAGON-R and others who will fall below what suzuki would be able to offer.

    so this is the MAIN reason . prevent PRICE INCREASE substantially , and provide the cheapest possible product .
    They have become mafia. In the name of manufacturing they r just assembling cars

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    Quote Originally Posted by SalmanHanif1 View Post
    Looks like no Wagon R old Alto to continue with new engine

    Carmaker seeks import of parts from India | DAWN.COM

    this piece of news CONFIRMS that paksuzuki is waiting for this trade venture with india , to launch a car with a EURO ll carby engine.

    now capsat stated that they are launching a new EFI engine hatchback ...

    while the news points out they are waiting for the carby engine , to continue alto , (or) launch wagon-r ( according to my sources)

    or it might be this way that meanwhile the this trade venture finalizes , they are moving on with their other launch , as capsat told , and then aftwards , when this trade venture finalises , they will launch wagon-r , or ALTO would be continued. lets see..
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    @ihaterollas

    couldnt agree more , its a CARTEL upthere , where each segment is busy monopolizing the market area where it is demanded.
    sad truth , but we are equally responsible for making these goons sit in our government offices , who are extorting the hell out of the local industry , and we end up paying them back .
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    to launch a car with a EURO ll carby engine.
    A euro II and and a Carby engine is a khusra engine, Which to my knowledge isnt possible.

    Euro II standardization means the use of EFI technology, Or else their would have been a Catalyst convertor in mehran in 2005. And no EFI mehran till date,.
    Get over the fact that Xli lacks power windows, Its an Xli because it lacks thoose features or else it would be a Gli or an Altis if had all the goodies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chinyoti View Post
    A euro II and and a Carby engine is a khusra engine, Which to my knowledge isnt possible.

    Euro II standardization means the use of EFI technology, Or else their would have been a Catalyst convertor in mehran in 2005. And no EFI mehran till date,.
    Thanks for the correction , I wasn't aware that this wasn't a possibility ,

    Thee atricle says that they are waiting for trade venture so they can import the carburator engine ,
    And also states that. It would be euro ll complaint engines they want from india .

    This is confusing me , which engine is this to be exact ? As far as I know the alto engine was never an EFI engine , but a carby .

    Please shed some more light on this engine which they are in " ISHQ " with ..
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    I would love if id have any insight, im not sure what engine do they (indians) use in the other cars, But if its an Alto like or segment car, In India their is Alto 800 and Alto K10. Im not sure if they have another 1000cc engine.
    Get over the fact that Xli lacks power windows, Its an Xli because it lacks thoose features or else it would be a Gli or an Altis if had all the goodies.

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    ^WagonR, AltoK10, AStar use the K10B Engine [998cc][BSIV/Euro4] and Maruti 800 uses 1C2V MPFI Engine[796cc][BSIII/Euro3].Alto 800 uses F8D [796cc][BSIV/Euro4]

    K10 (Alto K10)

    Suzuki internal news regarding Wagon-R and Alto - Sd6f4

    F8D (Alto 800)

    Suzuki internal news regarding Wagon-R and Alto - 6JEgK

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    It seems Mehran engine is same as of maruti 800 (indian mehran)

    So Suzuki can bring new Euro 3 engine in Wagon R and Alto. And now the age limit is 3 Years so no more used cars.

    What is the update
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    Auto parts import from India likely

    Auto parts import from India likely - thenews.com.pk

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    What do they mean by new model???????? guys please support something might come as used car age is 3 and local companies need to bring new small cars other wise in future GOV will again increase the age limit of used cars, what you guys say
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    alto ka engine wagon R mai. buhat allaa :/
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