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    Default Suzuki internal news regarding Wagon-R and Alto

    From relevent internal " sources " in Pak suzuki .

    i have just been informed that pak-suzuki has successfully imported around 100 prototype WAGON-R 's for display purposes.

    they plan to assemble WAGON-R ( 4th gen ) , and launch it here in Pakistan .

    now ,

    the problem they are facing is that they want to fit ALTO engine in it , and then sell it ...

    but JAPAN has obsoleted that engine , and is unwilling to supply them the engine they want .
    so all their eyes are set on some " trade venture" that is expected to take place shortly between INDIA , and PAKISTAN .
    which will allow them to purchase the engines from MARUTI INDIA.

    it is likely that , either 4th gen WAGON-R would be launched , or the ALTO would be continued.

    final decision has not been taken yet .
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    Model looks hot instead of wagon r

    Suzuki internal news regarding WagonR and Alto -1410965

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    Quote Originally Posted by fastian04 View Post
    I have driven Mira custom and its basically a cycle when driven over 70kmph with very high engine noise.40 bhp engines are good for retired people not for real drivers

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    They are very practical cars for in city driving(very economical).Agree they are not all rounders..But many real drivers dont have a habit of flooring **** out of cars which are meant for commuting and not racetrack.

    I drive a 1.5L sedan and in city my speed is 60 on the avg(in city).Following rules + driving sanely=win win scenario
    The one thing that unites all human beings, regardless of age, gender, religion, economic status, is that, deep down inside, we all believe that we are above-average drivers.

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    Picture of the day: two cheeky monkies come into the garage to check out daadi jan's car
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    http://www.pakwheels.com/forumreply_az_TopicID!53562~ForumID!29~pw.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by AbuJamal View Post
    Some more pictures:
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    >>>>>>Toyota Corolla GLI Ecotec- A power Machine<<<<<<

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    Quote Originally Posted by mkkd View Post
    Fuel average
    No idea yet. This car will be used occasionally
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    Quote Originally Posted by AbuJamal View Post
    No idea yet. This car will be used occasionally
    JDM 17 to 19 km long route


    Honda accord | Charade | Wagon R | Real estate | Dubai

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    Suzuki Dealer Sms:

    We are informing you that WagonR (Simple - Non AC) is completely electronic K-Series Engine Car at 899,000 Rs. Car can not be converted to AC from Market. Its computerised System Engine Service Lights Gets Automatically "ON" and Engine Motors starts making noise. Trying to Turn OFF Service Light May Cause Total Computerised circuits failure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by huzaifa.haroon View Post
    Suzuki Dealer Sms:

    We are informing you that WagonR (Simple - Non AC) is completely electronic K-Series Engine Car at 899,000 Rs. Car can not be converted to AC from Market. Its computerised System Engine Service Lights Gets Automatically "ON" and Engine Motors starts making noise. Trying to Turn OFF Service Light May Cause Total Computerised circuits failure.

    "Being critical doesn't mean you care.Being helpful does"

    I got this sms too. I was happy at least Pak Suzuki is concerned informing about VX non A.C model......

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    Quote Originally Posted by huzaifa.haroon View Post
    Suzuki Dealer Sms:

    We are informing you that WagonR (Simple - Non AC) is completely electronic K-Series Engine Car at 899,000 Rs. Car can not be converted to AC from Market. Its computerised System Engine Service Lights Gets Automatically "ON" and Engine Motors starts making noise. Trying to Turn OFF Service Light May Cause Total Computerised circuits failure.

    "Being critical doesn't mean you care.Being helpful does"
    Lol like ac system is from a jet or so lol
    How does ac turn engine check light on
    and if they say mounts fail then durrr fitay mun twadi quality da
    I seriously think this ac thing is bull crap
    660 compressor will work wonders with that engine also i think it has sanden from cultus or alto

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    Quote Originally Posted by ekdrifter View Post
    Lol like ac system is from a jet or so lol
    How does ac turn engine check light on
    and if they say mounts fail then durrr fitay mun twadi quality da
    I seriously think this ac thing is bull crap
    660 compressor will work wonders with that engine also i think it has sanden from cultus or alto

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    Quote Originally Posted by huzaifa.haroon View Post
    Hahhaha kuxh nahi ho ga sirf un ko VX pe kam profit ho raha hay

    "Being critical doesn't mean you care.Being helpful does"
    May be that's it like wagons ac is some thing from startrack movie
    who will buy 70k ka ac if u can get it in 28k

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    Quote Originally Posted by AbuJamal View Post
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    umm umm, the interior seems elegant ,
    @AbuJamal, bhai miyan, ab aor kitna intezaar karwana hai yar ? DETAILED pics plz....(exterior , interior, instrument panel, lights on/of inside out, ye wo zara full mahol !! )

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    The Check engine Light will come on if there is any modification on the engine. Its not a question of quality, its the question of how the on board computer was programmed.

    On the VX model, as there is no power steering or a/c, the engine computer has been tuned to a certain load and performance index. As you modify, the performance index changes and since the load on the engine increases, the on board computer does not recognize that load and the light comes on.

    On the question of a/c compressor. These compressors have ratings at different rpm. If the rpm is high, the compressor might perform but it will decrease its age if it rated at a lower rpm.

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    Oh ..... u mean to say it has some different programming tht it cant take load of a.c

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    Quote Originally Posted by saadzzz View Post
    Oh ..... u mean to say it has some different programming tht it cant take load of a.c

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    Yes! K10B is a full fledged EFI engine. Its a great engine to drive. I was impressed by the test drive. It does have immobilizer too which is integrated to the on board computer.

    In most international markets, air conditioner and power steering, the two features that put the most load on the engine, are standard features. So the engine is programmed to handle that load. But here, I assume Pak Suzuki has configured VX and VXR, VXL engines differently to manage the engine load as VX is without a/c or power steering while VXL & VXR are with them.

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    Now thts some valuable information ........


    Thanxx buddy

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    The advantage with EFI engine like K10B is that these engines are literally no maintenance. You just need to change engine oil & filter and may be since Pakistan conditions are very dusty, the air filter. There is no tuning needed as the timing of the engine is auto tuned to load conditions - temperature, speed, rpm & gear shifting pattern.

    If the air filter is dusty or the engine is not changed at the right period, the check engine light will come on.

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    Is it OBD-II compliant??? Or still using some proprietary Suzuki protocols?

    Someone can manage AC installation, but if ECU is mapped with specific tables which don't take into account AC and PS load, and you can't map the ECU yourself due to proprietary Suzuki protocols, then yes, forget AC and power steering forever...

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    Quote Originally Posted by IsbCap View Post
    Is it OBD-II compliant??? Or still using some proprietary Suzuki protocols?

    Someone can manage AC installation, but if ECU is mapped with specific tables which don't take into account AC and PS load, and you can't map the ECU yourself due to proprietary Suzuki protocols, then yes, forget AC and power steering forever...
    This is something not good for ppl who want to install A.c later on wagon R .......

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    Hmm many of them who bought the vx version would be shocked to hear this ..its literally impossible to drive in plains of Pakistan without AC.It should have been a standard feature..noone messes around with AC except PakSuzuki,why dont they like AC to be installed.Indians would be laughing at us that look Pak Dinki doesnt have the basic AC :l

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