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Thread: Suzuki Alto JDM 660cc OR Nissan Pino JDM 660cc?

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    Default Suzuki Alto JDM 660cc OR Nissan Pino JDM 660cc?

    I found these two. Condition is almost same. Both are manual. Both are same model. Both are same shape. Both are same color. Same price of both. The only difference is Pino has 62000 on odo meter and Alto has 81000 on odo meter. I always prefer a car with less mileage. The only reason why I haven't picked Pino over Alto yet is the resale factor.

    Does Alto have a better resale than Pino? If not, then I'll just go for Pino without thinking much.

    Is there any other reason I should prefer Alto over Pino? If not then I guess Pino should be the choice.


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    Go for Alto only. Pino will have no resale as people are not familiar with pino but alto has built its name in the market.
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    have you verified the mileages of both of the cars ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fahad.Ayub View Post
    have you verified the mileages of both of the cars ?
    What do you mean by verified?
    I just looked what it showed on the odo meter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jas9 View Post
    What do you mean by verified?
    I just looked what it showed on the odo meter.
    Bro most of the times jdms and reversed mileage(tampered meter)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fahad.Ayub View Post
    have you verified the mileages of both of the cars ?
    +1 the mileage wont be genuine anyway
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    Quote Originally Posted by z0haib View Post
    Bro most of the times jdms and reversed mileage(tampered meter)
    Quote Originally Posted by muradi View Post
    +1 the mileage wont be genuine anyway
    How to verify that the mileage shown on odometer is indeed the original one?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jas9 View Post
    How to verify that the mileage shown on odometer is indeed the original one?
    @huzaifa.haroon you are needed here

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    Check the brake pads the brake discs (they shoukd not have abrasions) condition of tyres, the ball joints, the play in wheel assembly when you give it jerks sideways. its these parts which tell you the true age of a car.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jas9 View Post
    How to verify that the mileage shown on odometer is indeed the original one?
    Forget genuine mileage verification, Nothing is genuine here. Look at the physical condition,Interior, Engine should be sound and the suspension should be ok. These things tell the actual age of the Car.
    Once in Tariq road karachi i was searching for a clean Vitz 2006 and came across a very clean one. When i asked the dealer about the mileage he said "Jitni mileage bolein gaye utni hogaye gi" and all the cars he had had plastic on their seats to attract the buyer. I doubted on the guy and thought that he might be doing fraud and left.
    So one can never be sure about mileage especially Jdm's
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    Quote Originally Posted by jas9 View Post
    What do you mean by verified?
    I just looked what it showed on the odo meter.
    If the vehicle is purchased from an auction then it has an auction report/sheet which has basic info about the car, specs,mileage and interior and exterior condition and after examining a grade is given mostly the car imported are involved in accidents or have high mileage so they are repaired and the odometer is revered as per desired mileage and auction sheets are thrown away or not given
    now ask the seller to show you the auction sheet and export certificate forged documents are also made cost only a few hundred rupees
    other ways of determining mileage are carefully inspecting the interior for scratcher around door handles,power window switches condition and colour of steering wheel and gear lever A/C knobs etc in short wear and tear

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    Quote Originally Posted by omerawan View Post
    Check the brake pads the brake discs (they shoukd not have abrasions) condition of tyres, the ball joints, the play in wheel assembly when you give it jerks sideways. its these parts which tell you the true age of a car.

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    I think I should take a mechanic with me to check all these things as I will not be able to check these myself.

    Quote Originally Posted by muradi View Post
    Forget genuine mileage verification, Nothing is genuine here. Look at the physical condition,Interior, Engine should be sound and the suspension should be ok. These things tell the actual age of the Car.
    Once in Tariq road karachi i was searching for a clean Vitz 2006 and came across a very clean one. When i asked the dealer about the mileage he said "Jitni mileage bolein gaye utni hogaye gi" and all the cars he had had plastic on their seats to attract the buyer. I doubted on the guy and thought that he might be doing fraud and left.
    So one can never be sure about mileage especially Jdm's
    Physical condition, interior etc. seemed to be in mint condition. The interior was very neat and clean and I didn't see any clearly visible scratches there. I tried the AC. The cooling was not VERY impressive - maybe like the cooling of a Cultus. Not sure if the AC needs servicing or something or not. The car started very smoothly. A friend of mine checked the body for repairs/accidents and only found that a small piece of rear left door was painted. Other than this, he couldn't identify any repaint areas.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fahad.Ayub View Post
    If the vehicle is purchased from an auction then it has an auction report/sheet which has basic info about the car, specs,mileage and interior and exterior condition and after examining a grade is given mostly the car imported are involved in accidents or have high mileage so they are repaired and the odometer is revered as per desired mileage and auction sheets are thrown away or not given
    now ask the seller to show you the auction sheet and export certificate forged documents are also made cost only a few hundred rupees
    other ways of determining mileage are carefully inspecting the interior for scratcher around door handles,power window switches condition and colour of steering wheel and gear lever A/C knobs etc in short wear and tear
    I didn't ask about the auction sheet. The car was registered which led me to believe that it has been driven in Pakistan as well after the import and the owner sold it to the dealership where it currently was. I will ask about the auction sheet if I decide to visit again. If the car was driven in Pakistan as well (which I think it was because its registered with a fancy number plate) then I guess there is not much use of looking at an auction sheet, is there? As any accidents and stuff like that that took place in Pakistan won't be on the auction sheet.

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    I will try to check out some more dealerships and see if I can find any more Altos/Pinos in manual. Finding a manual one has been very hard. I hope its worth the effort in terms of getting better fuel consumption than an automatic one.

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