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    i have a lot of experience of using and maintaining baleno all types of balenos.its really a marvelous car of suzuki.but little diffferent to maintain from other cars.if u have some problems discuss with me on this forum.B-)


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    Quote Originally Posted by shahzaib112 View Post
    thanku evry 1 for replies nd suggestions @revengez yar is men green colour ka emulator advancer laga hai jo ek he hai tomaseeto laveto name ka hai kuch dosre bat yar k gari petrol par perfct chal rhe hai perfct single issue b nae evn ac k sath kse b speed par kse kisam ka masla nae phr esa kesay possibl hai k gas par itna severe masla karay???gas par rpm b stable nae idle k time par upar nechay hota rehta hai khare gari band hojate hai patakhay mar rhe hai sakht yee masla cng relatd kyun hai sirf woo b itna severe?yee cng ke solenoid valve ke kharabi ke waja se tou nae?nd rhe bat advancer emulator ke tou mene wo unplug keya tha par phr gari start he nae horhe the.....help guys please....nd do pray evry1 for our country may ALLAH bless the right 1 Ameen.....
    Yes its possible - petrol need less ignition power to burn.

    and u have tomasetto lovato advancer + emulator. If u unplug - ur car wont start.
    There is an LED on advancer.

    It should be green when idle and red when u race it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by revengez View Post
    Yes its possible - petrol need less ignition power to burn.

    and u have tomasetto lovato advancer + emulator. If u unplug - ur car wont start.
    There is an LED on advancer.

    It should be green when idle and red when u race it.
    sorry to disagree with u bro no offense but its not posiibl k ek fuel par gari perfct chly ek par baqaida patakhy maray i mean ap khud keh rha hain k less ignition power chaheay hote hai evry body knws petrol ke poer zada hote hai par itna zada difrnc nae hoskta yee bat tou app b janty he hungay again no offense bro

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    Brother I had the same problem, just replaces my air filter and checked air leakages...now the car rocks...

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    Quote Originally Posted by shahzaib112 View Post
    bhaiyon please koi help karo yar.....mere baleno cng par itnay zada patakhy mar rhe hai k gari chlana b possibl nae.petrol par ac k sath b bilkul perfct chal rhe hai aur bohat kbhe kbhar gas par ac k sath b perfct chlte hai par 95% jb chlte hai tou bger ac k b gas par itnay patakhy marte hai k gari nae chlaye ja skte gas par.....koi help karay please k akher masla kya hai gas par he kyun itna secver masla kar rhe hai aur kbhe wo b nae karte.........
    Brother I had the same problem, just replaces my air filter and checked air leakages...now the car rocks...


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    Quote Originally Posted by abbasi_faheem View Post
    Brother I had the same problem, just replaces my air filter and checked air leakages...now the car rocks...


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    thankx appreciate ur contribution but bro ihave checked all that already evrythng is sealed nd air tight...

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    Quote Originally Posted by revengez View Post
    Yes its possible - petrol need less ignition power to burn.

    and u have tomasetto lovato advancer + emulator. If u unplug - ur car wont start.
    There is an LED on advancer.

    It should be green when idle and red when u race it.
    btw thanks i did not cheked that green nd red light u r talkng will check it today par agar woo is tara lit up na hun jesay ap ne btaya tou kya yee symptom emulator plus advancer k kharab k honay ka hai?

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    Quote Originally Posted by shahzaib112 View Post
    wesay bro i was thnkng hw is it possibl to repair a coil?because practcly its impossible nd theoritically its 100% cnfrm it cant be repaired tou apney kesay repair ke coil kindly share with us please
    Bro even coils can be repaired theoritically but i wont be feasible....
    As explained before by me in some post....baleno coils start leaking current...which causes misfires...these leakages are caused by cracks that appear with passage of time on lower side of coils where coil boots are connected...fill them with Magic Depoxy Steel....these crack appear coz of continuous heating and cooling of coils ...i think there is some design fault in thes coils that they cant handle this expansion and contraction for vey long time .....but you need to have a lot on knowledge on how to do this....i did on my Baleno and its perfectly fine since....
    Easy way is to get good Kabli ones...
    NiGhT ShAdE>>~

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    Hello guys I am new

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    Quote Originally Posted by shahzaib112 View Post
    sorry to disagree with u bro no offense but its not posiibl k ek fuel par gari perfct chly ek par baqaida patakhy maray i mean ap khud keh rha hain k less ignition power chaheay hote hai evry body knws petrol ke poer zada hote hai par itna zada difrnc nae hoskta yee bat tou app b janty he hungay again no offense bro

    There is nothing to be offense.

    Why cylinder missfire? Because of below reasons.

    fuel and air mixture
    Weak or Loss of Spark
    Loss of compression

    fuel and air mixture-
    1. when there is not enough petrol in the mixture to burn.A dirty injector / bad fuel pump will not let enough petrol to flow in the cylinder and a missfire in that cylinder will occur.

    2. Petrol is enough but Air is not enough or more than required - then again there will be no or weak ignition in cylinder and result will be a missfire. Leaked air filter box will not let enough air to burn injected amount of petrol. Why we always say to check the air filter box? because in case of leaked filter box, engine will not get all the air sucked through TB.

    Weak or Loss of Spark -
    If due to any reason, spark is not proper at tip of plug then there would be a missfire in that cylinder.It could be due to worn / damaged / cracked spark plug, Bad coil, cracked distributor cap.

    Loss of compression
    If not enough compression, most of the air fuel mixture loss before it get ignite and result will be missfire. Possible reasons are bad exhaust valve or blown head gasket.

    Missfire on CNG
    On CNG cylinder dont get any fuel through Injectors. Both the fuel (CNG) and Air goes through TB and if not properly tuned, there are more chances that one or more cylinder dont get enough amount of CNG+AIR to ignite.
    Why u don't or rarely face missfire issue on petrol, because when on petrol each cylinder is getting fuel through dedicated fuel injectors.
    Also u knw petrol can ignite with less spark+air in cylinder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shahzaib112 View Post
    btw thanks i did not cheked that green nd red light u r talkng will check it today par agar woo is tara lit up na hun jesay ap ne btaya tou kya yee symptom emulator plus advancer k kharab k honay ka hai?
    If not then it means ur car is not enough advancing on CNG. You will face power loss issue on low gears - especially 2nd gear.
    U just need to adjust the advancer - using a screw driver. The adjuster is I think below the advancer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by revengez View Post
    If not then it means ur car is not enough advancing on CNG. You will face power loss issue on low gears - especially 2nd gear.
    U just need to adjust the advancer - using a screw driver. The adjuster is I think below the advancer.
    Also I m in doubt that someone done wrong wiring of advancer on ur car.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NiGhTShAdE View Post
    Bro even coils can be repaired theoritically but i wont be feasible....
    As explained before by me in some post....baleno coils start leaking current...which causes misfires...these leakages are caused by cracks that appear with passage of time on lower side of coils where coil boots are connected...fill them with Magic Depoxy Steel....these crack appear coz of continuous heating and cooling of coils ...i think there is some design fault in thes coils that they cant handle this expansion and contraction for vey long time .....but you need to have a lot on knowledge on how to do this....i did on my Baleno and its perfectly fine since....
    Easy way is to get good Kabli ones...
    thn i,ll ask for u favour to help me to perfm ths repairing of coils cux honestly i am student i dont have enough money to put on risk for coils...

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    Quote Originally Posted by revengez View Post
    There is nothing to be offense.

    Why cylinder missfire? Because of below reasons.

    fuel and air mixture
    Weak or Loss of Spark
    Loss of compression

    fuel and air mixture-
    1. when there is not enough petrol in the mixture to burn.A dirty injector / bad fuel pump will not let enough petrol to flow in the cylinder and a missfire in that cylinder will occur.

    2. Petrol is enough but Air is not enough or more than required - then again there will be no or weak ignition in cylinder and result will be a missfire. Leaked air filter box will not let enough air to burn injected amount of petrol. Why we always say to check the air filter box? because in case of leaked filter box, engine will not get all the air sucked through TB.

    Weak or Loss of Spark -
    If due to any reason, spark is not proper at tip of plug then there would be a missfire in that cylinder.It could be due to worn / damaged / cracked spark plug, Bad coil, cracked distributor cap.

    Loss of compression
    If not enough compression, most of the air fuel mixture loss before it get ignite and result will be missfire. Possible reasons are bad exhaust valve or blown head gasket.

    Missfire on CNG
    On CNG cylinder dont get any fuel through Injectors. Both the fuel (CNG) and Air goes through TB and if not properly tuned, there are more chances that one or more cylinder dont get enough amount of CNG+AIR to ignite.
    Why u don't or rarely face missfire issue on petrol, because when on petrol each cylinder is getting fuel through dedicated fuel injectors.
    Also u knw petrol can ignite with less spark+air in cylinder.
    i think i should go to any experience electrcian i am not that much good wth al ths stuf like u guys...but aaccordng to me ths prblm ies within cng system anythng relatd to cng...thanks alot for ur help really i appreciate that

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    Quote Originally Posted by revengez View Post
    Also I m in doubt that someone done wrong wiring of advancer on ur car.
    i checked sometime ago advancer plus emulator but didnt find any screw on emulator advnacer...but i,ll check it agan carefully

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    Quote Originally Posted by revengez View Post
    Also I m in doubt that someone done wrong wiring of advancer on ur car.
    bro masla ye abhe aya hai wiring se i dont thnk koi taluk hai kyunk men kse cng walay k pass recently tou nae gaya cng setng karwanay bt pehlay gaya tha relay lagwaye kyunk gari cnvrsn men prblm karte the abb woo prblm solv hochuke hai bohat pehlay yee sara masla barish k bad hua bt tbbpetrol par b esay he jhatkay patakhy thay jesay cng par abhe tak hain par abb sirf cng par he hain yee petrol par bilkul nae evn ac on.....mene app sbb se yee pochna tha k idle par rpm ke needle 1 par hone chaheay ya use se b nechaay?1 zada tou nae idle k leay??

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    Quote Originally Posted by revengez View Post
    There is nothing to be offense.

    Why cylinder missfire? Because of below reasons.

    fuel and air mixture
    Weak or Loss of Spark
    Loss of compression

    fuel and air mixture-
    1. when there is not enough petrol in the mixture to burn.A dirty injector / bad fuel pump will not let enough petrol to flow in the cylinder and a missfire in that cylinder will occur.

    2. Petrol is enough but Air is not enough or more than required - then again there will be no or weak ignition in cylinder and result will be a missfire. Leaked air filter box will not let enough air to burn injected amount of petrol. Why we always say to check the air filter box? because in case of leaked filter box, engine will not get all the air sucked through TB.

    Weak or Loss of Spark -
    If due to any reason, spark is not proper at tip of plug then there would be a missfire in that cylinder.It could be due to worn / damaged / cracked spark plug, Bad coil, cracked distributor cap.

    Loss of compression
    If not enough compression, most of the air fuel mixture loss before it get ignite and result will be missfire. Possible reasons are bad exhaust valve or blown head gasket.

    Missfire on CNG
    On CNG cylinder dont get any fuel through Injectors. Both the fuel (CNG) and Air goes through TB and if not properly tuned, there are more chances that one or more cylinder dont get enough amount of CNG+AIR to ignite.
    Why u don't or rarely face missfire issue on petrol, because when on petrol each cylinder is getting fuel through dedicated fuel injectors.
    Also u knw petrol can ignite with less spark+air in cylinder.
    great i get to learn alot from this post
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    First gear laganay par Grr Grr ki awaz ati ha, this happens on first gear only, what could be the reason for this...

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    Quote Originally Posted by shahzaib112 View Post
    thn i,ll ask for u favour to help me to perfm ths repairing of coils cux honestly i am student i dont have enough money to put on risk for coils...
    If u own a multimeter and know how to check resistance of coils then u can test ur coils. Check resistance specification of baleno coils on internet or user manual if u have. If resistance of ur coils are with in the specified range then ur coils are okay otherwise u must need to replace the coils coz it will not create spark up to the mark and can cause the car to run rough. U can't repair it.

    If u coils are leaked or in bad shape then still u need to replace the coils. Mostly the boots of coils get affected due to engine heat and u can get new boots @ around 500 which will work for at least 1 year without any issue. Don't buy kaabli ones - chances of getting perfect are very low.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anc View Post
    First gear laganay par Grr Grr ki awaz ati ha, this happens on first gear only, what could be the reason for this...
    Please elaborate.

    u faced the issue when putting the car in first gear or when u start running the car in first gear?

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    Quote Originally Posted by revengez View Post
    Please elaborate.

    u faced the issue when putting the car in first gear or when u start running the car in first gear?
    when I put the car in first gear.

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