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    Unhappy Advice needed for suzuki baleno jxr urgent

    Dear all,
    Recently i purchased a baleno 2003 model, the car is good indeed but have issues like backfiring and slow acceleration on cng in 2nd gear (without ac), it has done 200k ....

    I got the car checked by a mechanic and he told me not to go for new coils(for back firing) as it will cost me around 16k and the same issue will arise after some time even if i don't wash the engine, instead he advised me to convert it to carb cam(which i believe came in the earlier models of baleno's) and that will cost around 12k and assured me that , by dong so i'll get better millage and pick.... currently the car gives 160km in 55kg cylinder.

    Kindly enlightened me... what will be best in said scenario...

    PS: the car has FF CNG and starts directly on cng n the cng switch is manual, and as per my observation the car's advancer is removed.

    Thanks n regards

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    Don't listen to mechanic. He knows nothing....

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    You can contact the below mechanic in Rawalpindi near Kohinoor Textile Mills. He is an expert of Suzuki & has worked with Company for many years. Most important thing that I like about him is that he will honestly guide you & will not try to rip you if you don't know much about cars:

    Pakistan Autos
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    You can give him my reference "the blue Liana-06 owner"

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    lol, world is advancing and the mechanic recommends you to go back to 70s-80s carburetor technology.

    since the trouble is without ac operations, il put my bets on the missing advancer from the whole scenario. when ac is switched on, the ecu advances ignition to some degree - no matter whether petrol or cng.

    troubleshoot for any engine codes, does the check engine light come on while on petrol or cng mode?

    advancer is necessary for operation on cng, no matter which car.

    since you've just bought the car, i would recommend a complete diagnostic so you can get some peace of mind.

    - engine compression test
    - check wiring; check spark plugs/ leads/ coils
    - check ALL sensors; their connections up to ecu.
    - a complete engine service including engine flush (liqui moly treatment), new oil & filter (at least API-SL grade oil), new air filter, new factory recommended spark plugs with factory recommended gaps.
    - complete visual check for any missing or cracked or leaking vacuum hoses or other pipes.
    - make sure cng mixer area is airtight as well.

    this all looks like a lot of trouble but it doesnt take long to do all this. and it will hopefully pinpoint the problem rather than blindly replacing this and that part.

    efi baleno has a wonderful engine...do NOT get it carby-fied.
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    @OP - Sorry I am in hurry, couldn't read complete post.

    If ur car is back firing on CNG only then it is possible that ur Advancer is not working / adjust advancer or replace if faulty.

    If no pick in 2nd gear then adjust CNG flow after fixing Advancer.

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    @AsadGhumman thanks for your advice bro , i'll surely check the mentioned place...

    @ahsanonline thanks bro for ur detailed reply it's really informative and m going to stick to ur idea of not going for carb setup ..

    @revengez thanks bro ....
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    yasir sab baleno is very nice and easy to maintain car. just app ak kam karoo is may 2 plug wires hoti hain choti choti in plug wires ko honda ki plug wires k sath exchange kar do app qu k baleno may sirf plug wires ka issue most rahta hay . ab ya app ka kam hay app kasay kartay hoo. its my fourth baleno . and on first baleno may nay ya sab dhakkay khaye our ab mashallah am happy k mujhay kam pasoo may itni bari gari mil jati hay and still i own baleno

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    this car only has one difference and that is waste spark system. yani spark 2 cylanders par ak hi wakt may hit hota hay our aggar dono cylander may say ak par say bhi current miss howa to back fire hoga agar to cng hay agar nai to petrol may just missing karray gi gari sirf baleno nay waste spark system introduce nai kia duna bhari pari hay asay engines say. agar speed meter may check engine ki light on nai hoti to forget about that. k kisi sensor ka issue hay . just is may ya plug wires hoti hain jo plug change karnay say kharab ho jati hay our after market jo milti hain wo bhi lowest quality ki hoti hain get honda plug wires our modify them . for ur help pics uploading.
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    remember advancer sirf timing advance karta hay our agar kharab hoga to just app ko koi differance feel nai hoga agar app advancer hataoo our lagaoo haan wiring app ko map sencer ki karni hi paray gi

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    this car only has one difference and that is waste spark system. yani spark 2 cylanders par ak hi wakt may hit hota hay our aggar dono cylander may say ak par say bhi current miss howa to back fire hoga agar to cng hay agar nai to petrol may just missing karray gi gari sirf baleno nay waste spark system introduce nai kia duna bhari pari hay asay engines say. agar speed meter may check engine ki light on nai hoti to forget about that. k kisi sensor ka issue hay . just is may ya plug wires hoti hain jo plug change karnay say kharab ho jati hay our after market jo milti hain wo bhi lowest quality ki hoti hain get honda plug wires our modify them . for ur help pics uploading.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yasirsa View Post
    this car only has one difference and that is waste spark system. yani spark 2 cylanders par ak hi wakt may hit hota hay our aggar dono cylander may say ak par say bhi current miss howa to back fire hoga agar to cng hay agar nai to petrol may just missing karray gi gari sirf baleno nay waste spark system introduce nai kia duna bhari pari hay asay engines say. agar speed meter may check engine ki light on nai hoti to forget about that. k kisi sensor ka issue hay . just is may ya plug wires hoti hain jo plug change karnay say kharab ho jati hay our after market jo milti hain wo bhi lowest quality ki hoti hain get honda plug wires our modify them . for ur help pics uploading.
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    plug wires change krao bahi aur kuch b mt kraow..mairy sth b same issur tha 22 hazar ka kaam 1600 mn hogya aur gari git hogi

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    its always better to get a second advice from another mechanic without telling him what the first mechnic told you
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