Listen mr kkoool.Were not here to rage a war,instead were here 2 view different views and opinions of differenr people.U might think i'm askin a bit higher price,but u c there is somethin called a SELLER'S demand and then BUYER'S demand.thats where negotiation takes place.If i think Civic possesses outclass performance,it would coz a person who owns it knows better.I dont know bout ur OPTRA as much,but its ur own choice.So try plzz not 2 overwhelm anybody whether its sellin or buyin.If anybody interested,they would contact themselves,instead of listenin 2 u