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    Question want to swap charade diesel into petrol

    Asalam o Alaikum
    i need help, i have charade diesel 86, i want to swap its diesel engine with petrol engine.. i want to know what will be the best petrol engine for charade , my priority is low cost and good economy ...

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    charade hi ka petrol engine lay lo
    the problem is not our govt... its the people..

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    charade's own petrol will work f9
    if u want power then there are 3 options
    4efe
    4afe
    4efte
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    thanks both of you ... immad can you please tell me the cost of charade's own petrol engine as well as 4efe,4afe,4efte. and which of these consume less fuel?

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    dont follow the "swap" bandwagon if you have a G11 charade - you will end up broke with a car that is horrible to drive and a headache to maintain - get yourself the original petrol engine and put it in. Its really simple to do.
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    i fancy charade's own will cost smwhere around approx 35-40k's
    4efe will smwhere around approx 65k.
    4afe will cost u around 70k approx.
    4efte is bit expensive.
    but if u go for toyota engines u'l get economy,reliability,power although it'l pinch ur pocket a bit initially but in longer run u won't repent upon it.
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    @xulfiqar bro toyota swaps are v common these days in g11 nd i fancy they work fine aswell.
    ev seen many setups.
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    I do not consider a swap successful if I have to grind, cut and weld everytime I need to do maintenance. And its not at all wise to stuff an overweight engine into a tin can shell like a charade and call is succesful.

    There is more to the equation than just getting ustaad to make engine mounts and ustaad to make "goda and danda" If you look at the original daihatsu parts closely - you see that the axles and CVs are originally one piece - the reason is that the CV locates the wheel too, (like a mehran). To effectively do this you need some length of the drive shaft - if you are using a shorter shaft (majboori because you have stuffed a large 4 cyl with fat gearbox) the movement becomes violent and will stress the joint to extremes it was not meant to take.

    Then comes the engine placing, the correct placement of the toyota 4 cyl engine will render your car like an old Audi (it will feel as if the engine is actually in front of the headlights), and the rear of the car will twitch as it does not have the weight transfer that it was designed for. Add a nervous beam axle and panhard locating rod to the equation and it does not paint a pretty picture.
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    dont bother with swaps in a g11.. space is too cramped... i have one...
    the problem is not our govt... its the people..

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    @nfssaad its not about space bro wht if i tell u about a g15(baleno engine)in a chevy joy???
    @xulfiqar wt u say about it???
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    please dont screw around with g-11

    go for cb-23

    or go for cb-60 if u can source one....

    g-11 is a nice car .... 4efe will screw it out ....simple....

    swaps are a reality but in pakistan i dont agree at all with this idea.....

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    bought kabli japanese anda charade engine just like new without gear box in 2010 for 29000/ from shershah and its doing gr8 in my G11
    there were two types...japanese and Malaysian... Malaysian was 4k less i-e 25000/ then
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    Quote Originally Posted by immad100 View Post
    @nfssaad its not about space bro wht if i tell u about a g15(baleno engine)in a chevy joy???
    @xulfiqar wt u say about it???
    I think you have never actually done a swap yourself, when you do and do it with careful calculation, you will understand what I said a few posts above.

    I have done really insane stuff, how does a toy 1UZFE in an FB RX7 sound? done that - useless basket case as it was undriveable, there were two modes - standstill or wheelspin. USELESS. Took it out, put in a mazda FE magnum engine and it was very nice after that.

    Ive seen people stuff a B16 into a charade and go for races. The swap had the right axle length so small that a bump of even 1 inch caused the axle spider to "swing out" from the joints - then when you put a jack under the car to lift for servicing you could see the whole car creak (BAD) - The problem was that the owner did not care and spent every weekend at the "suspension ustaad"

    There are better things in life than a mechanics shop. So being rational and sensible do swaps that actually are measured and calculated. The people who designed your car were not "ustaad jee mechanic" that say that thermostats are for areas that have snow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xulfiqar View Post
    I think you have never actually done a swap yourself, when you do and do it with careful calculation, you will understand what I said a few posts above.

    I have done really insane stuff, how does a toy 1UZFE in an FB RX7 sound? done that - useless basket case as it was undriveable, there were two modes - standstill or wheelspin. USELESS. Took it out, put in a mazda FE magnum engine and it was very nice after that.

    Ive seen people stuff a B16 into a charade and go for races. The swap had the right axle length so small that a bump of even 1 inch caused the axle spider to "swing out" from the joints - then when you put a jack under the car to lift for servicing you could see the whole car creak (BAD) - The problem was that the owner did not care and spent every weekend at the "suspension ustaad"

    There are better things in life than a mechanics shop. So being rational and sensible do swaps that actually are measured and calculated. The people who designed your car were not "ustaad jee mechanic" that say that thermostats are for areas that have snow.


    hahahaha....ive done many swaps...well its not the point of discusn heaa v shud stick to the topic instead of cmnting each other personally othrwise argument wont remain healthy at all.
    regarding thermostats....local painda mecs dnt even know a bit about it,its totly insane to put it out...wont tell the reasons as u'l be surely aware of them.
    regarding swaps i hvnt said that i did any sorta swap in g11 etc..... just said ive seen so nd there some swaped g11s that i know running successfully so far after swap.
    nd check mine older posts i just inquired from u over it..buh i fancy tht u took it wrong.
    ive gone through both sane nd insane swaps,my cousin is an automobile engineer nd he leads the entire team.
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    what engines were swapped in the G11 - and how did you manage to get some sort of reasonable axle shaft length with some strength as well.

    sad that I dont have a cousin as an auto engineer
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    again....
    have u gone through my entire post?????????????
    where did i say ive done a g11 swap????
    ive said this more than once tht ive seen g11s swapped.
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    ive learnt alot from u nd respect u alot but u shud atleast be kind to oters,instead of pickng up words from the post nd making up points for fight isnt good yar.
    i say it openly,i know least infrnta u,buh.......its not the way u shud respond.
    i inquired frm u bcz i wntd to gain knwldge abt tht but...i wont do it again.
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    im not picking up scraps from posts - take it easy, just trying to give sane advice.
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    ^got it
    ''Peace is an unstable equilibrium,that can only be preserved by acknowledged supremacy and...equal power.'' ''We give up the fort when there is not a man left to defend it.''

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    ^^got it
    ''Peace is an unstable equilibrium,that can only be preserved by acknowledged supremacy and...equal power.'' ''We give up the fort when there is not a man left to defend it.''

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