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    Default Sparke plugs for charade 993cc petrol

    Dear Allz. AOA
    I have charade 88 model with cng/ac. I want to change spark plugs 4 tip/2 tips to increase its pickup with fuel economy. Pl help me to find out best suitable for its CB 23 engine.

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    Any one please write me aboutmy problem.

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    Hey dude ! If you want them for performance, get Iridium single or dual tip plugs or if u hav ur charade turbocharged, get Bosch Platinum 4 Point Plugs !

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    hello!
    good idea on CNG by installed +4 plugs.. 2tip...it can increase ur car pickup on CNG as well as on petrol but fuel avg on petrol is bit high....can't said about CNG...i think u check out but surely car shows great effect on CNG after installing them....be sure ur backup ignition coil and wires are also stronger....
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    Yar I'm also have a charade with a non-turbo new engine and I also got a complete free flow exhaust installed but I want to increase the pickup and the first thing that came to my mind was the plugs that you mentioned but there are many people that I have consulted who say that these plugs don't do anything noticeable. So if you go ahead with the whole idea, do tell me the results. Waisay what else can we do to increase the pick while retaining the CNG???????
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    hello
    Bilal....as u know that CNG(Methane) burn hotter than petrol and produce less power...and its difficult to pass spark out of it rather than petrol...so u need all strong spark than petrol....thats y 2 tip helps out to burn easier rather than 1 tip....4 tip can also be try .....but i am sure that it will make a difference...bcz of its nature....it am not sure but it can also increase milage bcz on 1 tip u can't see that how much fuel is burning and how much is getting out without burning...just u have to take emission test and adjust air/fuel mixtures...this can also be the important factor of getting good milage....usually engines with bad pistons rings wastes lot of gas....bcz its easy for gas to escape from any place rather than liquid....so just install and tell us ur experience...
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    But is the difference noticable or not? I have never heard anyone trying this on CNG and the mechanics say that it's useless. Well I read the theory involved in the whole thing some time ago but I wanna know the practical results by someone else before I go ahead. I don't want to install something without any advantage and this can also ruin my cars present very good average......
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    Thanks Sali2002, Kiani,and Bilal.I have already changed its old bottle type coil with high current coil. All HT cables are in good condition.After changing plugs , I will inform you about performance on CNG/petrol.
    Also distributer has point system. Can I change it with electrical coil type? Can it will improve ignation and pickup with good economy.

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    High guys, i totally agree with sali's theory about the 2 and 4 pin plugs, i have done this with my charade that is 3 point plugs and a free flow exaust system with silicone HT cables and a dry electrical coil, the result is much better pick and also an increased top speed, and yes it would give an even better result with a capacitor discharge ignition system(CDI) so bilal just go with these ideas but do have the tapits, engine timing and cng adjustment in accordance with ur new conversions. u wont be disappointed inshaallah.

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    what about EFI Cars, are these pluge effective for EFI's as well?
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    OK guyz. I'll go ahead with the plugs thing as soon as I get time. The wires that I have are NGK standard and are in good condition. I hope they'll work well.......
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    Dear Sali2002
    I have searched Lahore market and found W16EX-U are single tip. while W-20-ETR-L are two tip plugs for Charade make by denso.Also J16-AY plugs are recommended for Charade which are not available in Pakistan. I have purchased W-20-ETR-L . Should I use these or some other suggession from your side. waiting for suggestions.

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    hello!
    yeah w16ex-u are the stock one recommended mostly by car manufacturers...as u said that w20 one u have got and also suggested...so yes go with it....and changing coil high tension wires and changing the point contact with CDI coil can also increase its efficiency of poering plugs....
    just tell us the results....hope they will be better than before...
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    I have come to know that engine performance on CNG will reduce by putting 2 tip plugs. CNG require more strong spark than petrol. two tip plugs have nice pick up on petrol but not on cng.Your comments please.

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    Yar phir wohi. COnfusion ho gayi na. I need to be sure to go ahead with the kharcha........
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    hello!
    yaar u said that CNG need strong spark...as for ur knowledge 2 tip creates spark on both sides as compared to 1 tip which has only one spark...so i think the 2 tip is always better than 1 tip if u need strong spark....maybe there needed some adjustments in Timing..they are setted A/c to other setup but now u have 2 tip and need again adjustment...to much advancing the timing can also dead up ur cars pick......so don't be disheart buddy..it will surely works..
    note any changes on Low RPMs in 2nd gear....just checkl it out
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    Yar I read once that even in multi-tip plugs, only one tip works at a time and that's the one that has the perfect displacement for that very spark instant. SO............
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    hello!
    so bilal......this means that 2 tips have nothing to do just for show...if this is true so what is the purpose of 2 tips....
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    Well did you get the "perfect displacement for that very spark instant" thing ?????? At the next spark, some other tip might be the lucky one to get the chance. So what's the thing about the stronger spark .......
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    hello!
    dear its not a game of chances...
    2 tip are made for it and also Bosch Platinum +4 (4 tips) are also there...so they are made for high end performace that it can burnt out Mixture completely.....so thats just i mean....proper setting is required for it...
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