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    Asalam o Aalaikum Wr Wb,

    Brothers today I drove from Islamabad till Risalpur Academy and when I was shocked at the average it gave me. The speed was about 100 or 110. Sometimes even 90. The average was between 90 - 110.

    The average also includes the distance driven inside the city. I reset my odo meter in Gulzar-e-Quaid and took the pictures in Risalpur.

    What do you think?

    P.S: I have not changed engine oil, air filter, or oil filter in the last 5000 kilometers.

    P.S 2: It was filled with ordinary petrol. NO HIGH-OCTANE. Normal fuel bought for 75.20/Liter. Air Conditioner was not running. I turned it on a few times but not for long (I was driving at night so didn't need it). There were two people in the car including the driver. Rims and Tyres were factory default.


    My world record of Fuel Economy in Honda City 09 -80872 My world record of Fuel Economy in Honda City 09 -80873

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    Now i am just worried my Xli gives me 7.5km in city i have check it several times

    with full tank
    50liters it does 390Km(figures are for with in city with A/c) = 7.8km/liter

    rs 1000 = 13.64 liters of petrol it does 100km in it so this represents almost the same figure of 7.3km/liter

    this is normal driving.

    and i also check the mileage when flooring it that comes to 87 89km in rs1000 of petrol.

    On motorway the figures are 600km in one tank that equals to some where 12km/liter

    tires are 205/65/R14
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    Quote Originally Posted by qwertypoiu View Post
    Now i am just worried my Xli gives me 7.5km in city i have check it several times

    with full tank
    50liters it does 390Km(figures are for with in city with A/c) = 7.8km/liter

    rs 1000 = 13.64 liters of petrol it does 100km in it so this represents almost the same figure of 7.3km/liter

    this is normal driving.

    and i also check the mileage when flooring it that comes to 87 89km in rs1000 of petrol.

    On motorway the figures are 600km in one tank that equals to some where 12km/liter

    tires are 205/65/R14
    Are the tires the stock size, and are you measuring your consumption as I mentioned in a previous post?

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    Quote Originally Posted by qwertypoiu View Post
    Now i am just worried my Xli gives me 7.5km in city i have check it several times

    with full tank
    50liters it does 390Km(figures are for with in city with A/c) = 7.8km/liter

    rs 1000 = 13.64 liters of petrol it does 100km in it so this represents almost the same figure of 7.3km/liter

    this is normal driving.

    and i also check the mileage when flooring it that comes to 87 89km in rs1000 of petrol.

    On motorway the figures are 600km in one tank that equals to some where 12km/liter

    tires are 205/65/R14

    Must be the old shape Xli.bcuz of a non-vvti engine, it doesnt give very nice mileage.plus 205 is too large for it, as the stock size is 175....
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    over all tire size is within the 3%limit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by qwertypoiu View Post
    over all tire size is within the 3%limit.
    That's good. How about the fill, note odometer, fill again and calculate odometer difference / fuel used part?

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    Quote Originally Posted by qwertypoiu View Post
    Now i am just worried my Xli gives me 7.5km in city i have check it several times

    with full tank
    50liters it does 390Km(figures are for with in city with A/c) = 7.8km/liter

    rs 1000 = 13.64 liters of petrol it does 100km in it so this represents almost the same figure of 7.3km/liter

    this is normal driving.

    and i also check the mileage when flooring it that comes to 87 89km in rs1000 of petrol.

    On motorway the figures are 600km in one tank that equals to some where 12km/liter

    tires are 205/65/R14
    If you have a CNG Kit installed, you should know it also causes a disturbance in the power to weight ratio. My full tank is not 50 Liters, its 41. And I don't remember when it actually got 41 Liters in it, it barely gets 35 in it. With one full tank, the 'range' calculator shows me 700 kilometers. (Meaning I can drive 700 kilometers in one tank of 40 liters). On local your average should be around 14 kpl minimum. In the older XLi CNG is also very successful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VCheng View Post
    That's good. How about the fill, note odometer, fill again and calculate odometer difference / fuel used part?
    If its the older XLi, that's the only way he is calculating.
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    Quote Originally Posted by qwertypoiu View Post
    Now i am just worried my Xli gives me 7.5km in city i have check it several times

    with full tank
    50liters it does 390Km(figures are for with in city with A/c) = 7.8km/liter

    rs 1000 = 13.64 liters of petrol it does 100km in it so this represents almost the same figure of 7.3km/liter

    this is normal driving.

    and i also check the mileage when flooring it that comes to 87 89km in rs1000 of petrol.

    On motorway the figures are 600km in one tank that equals to some where 12km/liter

    tires are 205/65/R14
    totally agreed with u bro,but in city if ur running with ac,try these shifting ratios n tell me if it works for u,it does work for me
    1st gear shift @ 2k rpm
    2nd gear shift @ 2.5k rpm
    3rd gear shift @ 2.5k rpm

    i use these when im trying to save fuel n as a result i got 120kms in first quarter of my tank in my Gli
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    Quote Originally Posted by VCheng View Post
    That's good. How about the fill, note odometer, fill again and calculate odometer difference / fuel used part?
    Thats the best way to get fuel mileage of a car, the easiest and accurate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmadbila View Post
    Thats the best way to get fuel mileage of a car, the easiest and accurate.
    How can this be accurate when:

    1. Sometimes the guys filling the car keep filling it even after it has auto-stopped.
    2. Sometimes they do stop at the point where it automatically stops.
    3. Automatic stop of the fuel is not always accurate. Its very subjective.
    4. Manually filling it beyond the auto-stop point is also not accurate. There could be a difference of up to 5 liters with that.
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    I saw first two pages then thought of posting this, this is 5.8L V8 petrol and everything is documented




    and of course the run was with AC, actually if someone turns off the AC and open the windows the drag causes more fuel loss then running AC
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    Quote Originally Posted by docaam View Post
    I saw first two pages then thought of posting this, this is 5.8L V8 petrol and everything is documented




    and of course the run was with AC, actually if someone turns off the AC and open the windows the drag causes more fuel loss then running AC
    Yeah so?

    Its 775 Kilometers from Abu Dhabi to Riyadh, and the fuel capcity of Nissan Patrol is about 130 Liters. That's about 6 Kilometers/L? Do you think we should start clapping?
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    I always put the gear in neutral when there is a need to stop or slowing down of it, like you on a traffic signal or police checkposts. It increases fuel economy a lil bit because the RPM drops to < 1k. In this way the cng average is 140km on a 50kg tank. Although i havent calculated the cars petrol average but its likely to be 12-13km

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    Quote Originally Posted by Farukhz7 View Post
    I always put the gear in neutral when there is a need to stop or slowing down of it, like you on a traffic signal or police checkposts. It increases fuel economy a lil bit because the RPM drops to < 1k. In this way the cng average is 140km on a 50kg tank. Although i havent calculated the cars petrol average but its likely to be 12-13km
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    Quote Originally Posted by BilalYusrat View Post
    Yeah so?

    Its 775 Kilometers from Abu Dhabi to Riyadh, and the fuel capcity of Nissan Patrol is about 130 Liters. That's about 6 Kilometers/L? Do you think we should start clapping?
    No need to clap but just think before posting The average was 12.2l/100km or 8.3km/l with city and highway driving, AC and stop over. They drove 987kms and another 200 was there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by docaam View Post
    No need to clap but just think before posting The average was 12.2l/100km or 8.3km/l with city and highway driving, AC and stop over. They drove 987kms and another 200 was there.
    Asal main yar the distance between Riyad and Abu Dabi is about 770 Kilometers (varification: Distance Calculator - Cities Near United Arab Emirates – Abu Dhabi – Abu Dhabi)

    The fuel capacity of Nisan Patrol is 125 Liters (varification: Nissan Patrol ST-S 3.0 - www.drive.com.au -- search the page for 'capacity').

    So 770/125 should return the amount of fuel that is going to be used for traveling 770 kilometers in 120L, that should be almost 6 I presume.

    Easy enough?
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    Nice to see the "records" of all you guys here ... but the WORLD RECORD is by the new 2010 Nissan Patrol which travelled from Abu Dhabi to Riyadh in a single tank of fuel.

    It took me 2 days to go to Abu Dhabi to Riyadh in 2008 and we refuelled around 2 times. This indeed is a world record!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meeteepao View Post
    Nice to see the "records" of all you guys here ... but the WORLD RECORD is by the new 2010 Nissan Patrol which travelled from Abu Dhabi to Riyadh in a single tank of fuel.

    It took me 2 days to go to Abu Dhabi to Riyadh in 2008 and we refuelled around 2 times. This indeed is a world record!

    Source:

    http://www.menafn.com/qn_news_story_...yId=1093321305

    Actually, the number of times you have refueled does not make your car's average good or bad unless you know the capacity of the tank and the actual amount of liters you've put in and the kilometers you've traveled. The video above does not show any signs of the fuel capacity (because that's what matters) and nor the amount of petrol in liters put into the car when the journey was started.

    A City 1.3L would probably do the same journey (770 Kilometers) in 1/3rd of the fuel used by Nissan Patrol *without refueling all the way.* (40x23 = 920 Kilometers in 40 Liters) and still have more than 100 kilometers (if its diriven at 100 KM/h). I understand there is a 'huge' difference between the cars, but I'm saying that it does not matter that we did a trip without refueling, what matters is how much fuel did you actually put in your car?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BilalYusrat View Post
    Asal main yar the distance between Riyad and Abu Dabi is about 770 Kilometers (varification: Distance Calculator - Cities Near United Arab Emirates – Abu Dhabi – Abu Dhabi)

    The fuel capacity of Nisan Patrol is 125 Liters (varification: Nissan Patrol ST-S 3.0 - www.drive.com.au -- search the page for 'capacity').

    So 770/125 should return the amount of fuel that is going to be used for traveling 770 kilometers in 120L, that should be almost 6 I presume.

    Easy enough?
    You are not getting the point., the distance for traveling is the length of the road not the displacement, do you travel from khi to isb in a straight line or on the road LOL.......and the car you are following is the old one i am talking about the one in the video. I guess just forget it.

    A City 1.3L would probably do the same journey (770 Kilometers) in 1/3rd of the fuel used by Nissan Patrol *without refueling all the way.* (40x23 = 920 Kilometers in 40 Liters) and still have more than 100 kilometers (if its diriven at 100 KM/h). I understand there is a 'huge' difference between the cars, but I'm saying that it does not matter that we did a trip without refueling, what matters is how much fuel did you actually put in your car?

    Its not 770kms, get it right its 987kms with another 200km of fuel in the tank. Tank was sealed. Toyota/Lexus has tried it twice to do this journey and failed. City can never travel 987kms or even 770 on a stock full tank, I will be surprised if it will touch 700 with AC, city and highway driving.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BilalYusrat View Post
    You're absolutely right. But I have one more confusion. I mean the logic is perfect, and its absolutely acceptable to me too that smaller tyres/rims obviously make more revolutions. What I am confused about is how come the smaller (or larger) tyres don't put any impact on the speedometer? I had an Alto, and its tyres were bigger than the factory tyres. It had 14" tires I think and factory ones are 12". But I calculated its speed with GPS and it was 99% the same as shown on the speedometer. I won't say 100% because the speed on GPS updates after a second or two, but in the car its real time. That's why GPS wasn't able to catchup with the speedometer.

    Anyways, if this is such a small impact on the speedometer, its even smaller on the odometer and the trip calculator, right? So this difference can probably be neglected.
    first of all awesome mileage, i drove the new city (manual) for a day in city and with my usual driving style got 12.1, get 14 with similar driving on Nissan sunny diesel.

    anyway the speedo thing you mentioned, i tested this a lot in numerous cars, the speedo from factory is usually fast, i.e. telling more speed, this error ranged from 9 percent in older civic exi, to 5 percent in the current vti. how i tested it was with gps over at least a couple of km's long constant drive and secondly with time noted between two fixed distances again by gps with accuracy around 3 meter.

    thirdly i have a question from all, the instantaous average that the meter shows is while the car is moving, basically calculated by the speed and the injector duty cycle, when the car is stationary at a traffic light their is no average, the overall average is calculated by the instantanous average or with the accumulative injector ON time by distance covered?

    lastly what i have noticed is that there is a lot of difference between filling stations, with the needle at the same place i.e. EMPTY(E) i have seen a difference of around 4 liters over 43 liters of total fuel, now this is a lot, hence what i do is i have a fixed fuel station, and fill the fuel to the brink, i.e. its visible and remains there for at least a couple of min with the car stationary. this gives me the most accurate average.
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