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    Salam PWers!
    I am facing some unstable idle problem in my iDSI city. A video has been attached for proper reference to the problem.
    When i start the car, the rpm shoots to 2K(which is normal) but when it is returning to the idle state (700), it shoots past it and goes well below 400 before returning to 700. this can be seen in the videos. Due to this, sometimes the car just shuts off. What could be the problem?
    In the video, one can see that the car shakes/vibrates a lot when the idle rpm falls below 400 during the second time i start the car.
    The car in question is a 2003 Honda City i-DSI with 47K on the ODO. It's on petrol. A few days back, I got some work on the car in which the tappets were adjusted. To access the rockers, intake manifolds and throttle body were completely dismantled and removed. However, no adjustment or work was done on the throttle body. It's after this that I have started experiencing this.
    Any suggestions and help will be deeply appreciated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hash4u View Post
    my 2006 city with 70,000kms on clock started to stall on iddle /petrol
    went for
    throtle body svc,
    plug cleaning,
    iddle valve cleaning,
    tappet check,

    in 700-800 rupees the car is smooth like a baby(its actually better then previous state of iddling issues even)
    From where u did all those maintenance bro ?
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    so you did anything for the cleanup or...?

    You might want to get your engine flushed first, then clean out the PCV valve (it on the pipe going from top of engine valvehead cover to the intake), then get the intake manifold removed and cleaned, alongwith a proper cleanup of the throttle body. In that order.

    On start your car is supposed to go up to 1500-1800rpm and come down to a stable 800rpm. Looks like that band has shifted wayy down...
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    Quote Originally Posted by stonedsaint View Post
    From where u did all those maintenance bro ?
    In home by servant

    TB service alone costs 800-1500 rs and he got all the work done in 700rs. I think the message was typed in 2007 and it is displayed in 2012

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    Quote Originally Posted by ahsanonline View Post
    so you did anything for the cleanup or...?

    You might want to get your engine flushed first, then clean out the PCV valve (it on the pipe going from top of engine valvehead cover to the intake), then get the intake manifold removed and cleaned, alongwith a proper cleanup of the throttle body. In that order.

    On start your car is supposed to go up to 1500-1800rpm and come down to a stable 800rpm. Looks like that band has shifted wayy down...

    wht is intake manifold? is it those plastic boxes n pipes in which air filter is installed??/ i guess.....

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    No it is the four pipes in between the throttle body and the engine itself from where it takes air in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ahsanonline View Post
    so you did anything for the cleanup or...?

    You might want to get your engine flushed first, then clean out the PCV valve (it on the pipe going from top of engine valvehead cover to the intake), then get the intake manifold removed and cleaned, alongwith a proper cleanup of the throttle body. In that order.

    On start your car is supposed to go up to 1500-1800rpm and come down to a stable 800rpm. Looks like that band has shifted wayy down...
    PCV valve of these L series engines are not on valve cover. only breather is there. PCV is on the front side of the block just below where intake manifold attached to the head.


    honda City iDSI idle rpm problem -406316

    you can follow this hose it is comming from PCV
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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmedbilal View Post
    PCV valve of these L series engines are not on valve cover. only breather is there. PCV is on the front side of the block just below where intake manifold attached to the head.


    you can follow this hose it is comming from PCV

    thanks for the prompt reply.. i will definitely check it in the evening...

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    Quote Originally Posted by KLINCH View Post
    thanks for the prompt reply.. i will definitely check it in the evening...

    guys i cant find pcv valve from market.... any idea where can i buy it..??

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    Quote Originally Posted by KLINCH View Post
    guys i cant find pcv valve from market.... any idea where can i buy it..??
    you can only find it from honda 3s, 2s or 1s. most probably they do not know what you are asking so quote the part no: 17130pwa003 and price will be Rs 1430 exactly
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    Here is the schematic depicting PCV:
    honda City iDSI idle rpm problem -407623

    Part no.2 is the PCV.
    Pinch the pipe coming from the intake manifold to PCV, with either a plier or your fingers. If you can hear a clicking sound, then your PCV is fine. This should be done on idling.
    The PCV goes into the air/oil separator of the engine block.
    For now, my car is garaged as i am busy in my exams. InshAllah, i'll get all the work done on coming monday. How should i flush the engine? Using engine flush? I did it on the last oil change.
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    many thanks guys for the prompt reply. u guys knows every thing...
    i have sent an email to honda for the quotation.. lets see how much they ask ... where did u guys get the maintenance manual...???

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    PCV valve in only available at honda sharah e faisal n i have very bad experinece with them so i will ordered it tomorrow from honda site.. and yes it costs exactly Rs. 1,430/-

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    well guyz, got my issue resolved yesterday. To my surprise, it was merely a cracked worn out wire, just above the throttle body.

    Took my car to an expert mechanic, told him the issue, he inspected it all over for about 15 mins and then pulled out this grip. Opened all the tapes, bla bla, cut a few wires, joined them again, threw the bad ones away, put some new ones in and whoalla.

    the car is perfect. Idling, startup, even I feel it to have become more responsive now. No rpm drops, no sluggish movements, no nothing.

    Since faizan bhai's problem wasn't until he got the TB cleaned, so I suspect the issue to be the same with him as well.

    bro, do check the grips and wires just above of the throttle body.

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    Good to know that your issue was resolved. Allhamdoulillah, the issue with idle in my car's case was resolved as well.
    The ECU was reset and reconfigured using the Honda's HIM System. It was done after manually adjusting the IACV.
    Right now the problem i am facing is the one mentioned in one of the other threads.
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    Memon bro
    kabhi aao na pindi khushboo laga kay

    I did actually pay 800 for all that. he said he is leaving money because i came for the first time to his shop.

    p.s its in PWD
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    salam pwers
    bhayion aik problem jo mjhay samajh nahe a rahe meri garee (city 2004) ke race (rpm) idle per slow slow aati hai jab usko race day kar accelarator chortay hain tou rpm wapis aatay hua 1500 say pay rukta hai phir 3-4 second may khud he 900 pay aa jata hai,, yay kis cheez ke problem ho sakti hai ???
    thanx in advance

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    @basimulhaque I think its normal, my city also do similarly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RollOnBigMaMa View Post
    well guyz, got my issue resolved yesterday. To my surprise, it was merely a cracked worn out wire, just above the throttle body.

    Took my car to an expert mechanic, told him the issue, he inspected it all over for about 15 mins and then pulled out this grip. Opened all the tapes, bla bla, cut a few wires, joined them again, threw the bad ones away, put some new ones in and whoalla.

    the car is perfect. Idling, startup, even I feel it to have become more responsive now. No rpm drops, no sluggish movements, no nothing.

    Since faizan bhai's problem wasn't until he got the TB cleaned, so I suspect the issue to be the same with him as well.

    bro, do check the grips and wires just above of the throttle body.

    Regards
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    Hello to all,

    i've read that topic but i m still confused some says should use only honda oil bough from honda dealer. some says havoline or Zic should be fine.

    expert opinion required for my honda city manual 2007,

    also i have just tuned up my car , like throttle body clean tappet setting new NGK iridium plug installed. there has been positive changing while driving but still some thing missing, what should i do or check to ensure everything working accordingly.

    Note = my city manuel 2007 driven on petrol odo shows 136000 km done,

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    some body tell me
    my honda city 2003
    RPM 3
    Sppeed 100 is that with 3 RPM ?

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