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    Default City IDSI, 50k kms,giving bad average, need help

    hi guys...

    i hav on my hands a honda city idsi, 50k used,
    regularly maintained by honda in karachi...

    No CNG installed.. stock on petrol..
    the car is running fine...
    new spark plugs at 45k,
    air filter , oil n oil filters hav alwasys been in check...
    the pick is fine..power is fine.. as it should be..

    the problem which i am facing is BAD FUEL CONSUMPTION..
    the car is doing like 9 km per liter with A/C

    what needs to be serviced which is causing bad fuel consumption... it should be doing 12 to 14 even with A/c..

    anybody who has maintained a honda city idsi. please guide me..

    is the throttle body responsible for this and needs a service.. i need help on this one pls..

    there is another slight problem..when i start the car.. the rpm goes to 1.6 thousand.. then it dips to 700 rpm .. then it comes back to around 1000 rpm..everytime...

    ?? what do i need to get serviced...
    Do the environment a favour, Use less airconditioning .. and please walk to the shop to get a pack of cigarretes..its only a 3 min walk..

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    @ nascar
    we can surely dedicate a day for your daewoo.. its getting very interesting,...i will surely keep this thread active with all the info and experience i get...

    @ spectra

    My mechanic in pindi can do it for you if you want.. which i know you dont...i am going to be extrmely busy with guests over the weekend.. otherwise i would hav loved to join you..

    i guess there are timing locks in fiat which you hav to screw on before removing the belt so that the timing is not disturbed... you know more than me on that...

    good luck.. dont forget the detailed pictures.. if you need any fiat thing which is not available tell me.. might be able to get it for you from UK at reasonable price...
    Do the environment a favour, Use less airconditioning .. and please walk to the shop to get a pack of cigarretes..its only a 3 min walk..

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    @nascar
    boss we talked about daewoo some time ago but i guess time management is an issue
    Keep a cool head and wear seatbelts!

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    ya it is late

    wat do u say bout tomorrow

    i will have the whole moring free plus can try it in the evneing as well

    which ever suits u

    time place ur choice but tomorrow when r u planning to work on ur fiat , i can try to join in for some time and we can do a basic check on the daewoo and plan the way forward
    nothin good in life is for free

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    i dont have a problem, a good friend is also coming, nadeem iqbal will be there as well, so we can divide and make teams to work on both cars.
    Keep a cool head and wear seatbelts!

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    (y)....good going
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    Daewoo Cielo GLX 1.6L E-TECII DOHC 110PS/5000 150N.m./3400

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    ok i b there at ur place tomorrow
    nothin good in life is for free

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    @minex
    Cars in Karachi are specially prone to rust due to moisture in the air. This problem worsens if one lives near the beach such as Clifton or Defence.

    Undercarriage of the car is specially prone to rust. Get your car on a lift and check the undercarriage yourself in broad day light. As far as Hondas are concerned, I personally believe that their undercarriages are stiffer built than most people believe them to be. Anyways there is no harm in checking but you should have done this at the time of pupurchase.

    Goodluck with your car when you go to the mechanic.

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    @spectra
    why are u so afraid going to the mechanics :| ?
    hmmmm Nadeem is coming. phir to chakar marna paray ga !
    LOL

    @minex
    Pit stops have the diagnostics softwares.
    good luck, i think u have a good idea what to do with the car right now.
    Life is short and very unpredictable just like a Quarter mile .....

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    mechanic is coming home yaar. u know amin
    Keep a cool head and wear seatbelts!

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    i will Recommend U some thing you must have to try i hope your car will be fine.i have some experince about the bad fuel consuption.
    1) chnage your plug FRom NGk to Denso chnage company .but use that number which honda Recommend for that number read onwer manual.
    2) change Mobil oil to CALTEX Formula oil
    3) the conditions you have tell that shows your cars ignition timing is retire . and adjust it to 5-7. try to advance it using timing light
    4) ideal RPM should be 1000+-50
    5)adjust your valve clearence according to manual
    6)Use fuel booster or carben cleaner to remove carban
    7)change your air filter (try to get original)
    8)change coolent of ur rediator
    These things will increase ur fuel average. let u try this and inshallah ur car will be better . if u need some help again then post the messege to me
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    @xspeed
    please educate me how your point #8 will help improve fuel average
    Life is short and very unpredictable just like a Quarter mile .....

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    If u read the Service manual(technical or PIT manual) of any company like toyota nad honda . they Recommend to check it after every 50000kms. and as he said his car is over 50000kms. a chamical is used in that coolent which is decompose on heating .so it become only color full water but the original purpose does not Fulfill .so after 50000kms chnage the car coolent .if u can buy a 9lac car then u cant spend 80-90 rupies on ur car.concern a good Engineer in a good pit shop they will guide you
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    water temperature sensor gets rusty and give wrong readings to ECU for air fuel mixture.
    Keep a cool head and wear seatbelts!

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    minex any updates??
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    maintenance delayed .. fuel filter was changed at 45000...

    still observing the car.. and its readings...

    actually.. got no time to take it to workshop.. so just cruising along... for a week or two
    will surely update you guys
    Do the environment a favour, Use less airconditioning .. and please walk to the shop to get a pack of cigarretes..its only a 3 min walk..

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    Hey minex hv u sent your car for service any improvement?

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    I got the old City 1.3

    I started to get 8km/l for some odd reason when usually I get 11km/l (on A/C 80% of the time)

    Got the throttle body serviced. That solved the problem ...
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    well minex.. i had a same problem of RPM in my civic 95.. bugged me for months.. just go through computerized tuning once.. thts all
    take care

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    the TPS and MAP aint working... get em checked

    service the whole throttle body and check the voltages by a simple multimeter at TPS and MAP.
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    changing where i get the refuelling from made sum difference...dont use shell... caltex or pso are good...

    got its throttle body serviced.. and also got the car inspected on Honda Daignoser....there was nuthing wrong with the ecu...all was fine...

    the car is averaging around 14 with full ac...

    average will improve as a/c usage is minimizing day by day..
    Do the environment a favour, Use less airconditioning .. and please walk to the shop to get a pack of cigarretes..its only a 3 min walk..

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