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    Default What is Honda City NEO?

    Guys I have purchased Honda City 1.5 Ex NEO 1998 for Rs. 500000.
    Is this a good buy?

    Car is in excellant condition and the only thing I need to change are the tyres as they are a bit old now.

    It has power windows, power steering, central locking, pioneer CD player and alloy rims. Done 77000 KM.

    What do you guys say!?

    Plus also tell me what does this NEO mean? and how it is differnet from other city of same model?

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    Dude, NEO was a limited edition Honda City which boasted a 1.5L Engine. NEO also means that you can beat the hell out of the new Honda City 1.3L, Corolla XLi/Gli, Lancer 1.3 and any other car in its class. The NEO can probably beat the SE Saloon(its much much much lighter)and provide some stiff competition to the Civic in accleration, but not in top speed. Dude, all you need to install is a new Exhasut System, Air Intake and you can beat any damn Pak assembled car!
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    hello!!!
    yaar good buy i thinks its a wonderful buy....NEO is limited model and is superb as describeb by my friend....1.5 is the best engine in small chassis...it also works well if u wanna install CNG on it.....anyways congrats on buying NEO....
    Thanx

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    Honda city NEO as much as i am sure has the 1.5 PGMFI engine which came HOnda Civic LSI and EXI in 1992 in europe
    its a very powerful engine and sure can smoke Baleno and new city easily and probably corolla too
    as corolla is 92 BHP and NEO is 110

    correct me if i am wrong

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    Good yaar! itni batain to mujhay bhe nahin pata theen City kay baray main!
    Tell me something more about it now I am excited!

    I will post some pics of the car as soon as I get the delivery.
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    @GLI, yar SE and VTI both in manuals are faster than this car, but remember this is 1.5, while new city, xli/gli are 1.3, so engine size wise comparison he nhn hai, iska comparison nai EXI sey hai....

    @nabeelshk, yar engine powerful nhn hai, but chassis is lighter thats why it smokes other cars....im sure its not programmed fuel injection coz i think its not computer controlled, coz the cars honda launched before 2001 were all NON-PGMFI, so its not 110 either....

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    It is possible that NEO is efi, but PGM-FI is a special breed of EFI where instead of rom on ecu u have flashable rom. Its also possible that neo is pgm-fi but i dont think so.

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    To yaar confirm kar kay batao kay if NEO is PGM-FI or simple EFI?

    By the way PGM-FI consumes less fuel as compares to EFI and it is more economical, right!?
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    no yaar PGM-FI mean Programmable fuel inejction, it can be mated to mpfi of single nozzle efi. Fuel consumption dependg upon how well it is programmed. I dont think its PGM-FI. Because in pakistan only civic has PGM-FI

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    yaar codernaut then what is the advantage of PGM-FI over EFI?
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    The companies can more easily customize the cars for specific regions and user customizeability is also easier.

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    GUYS i have answers to ur questions only if u listen and understand

    basically when some one says tht some car is "computer controlled" he literally means tht its engine is distributor less (yes those 4 wires arent present tht go to the distributor) & instead the on-board computer handles its function.

    now all distrubutor less cars are either PGMFI or MPFI, so 2001+ civics, XLI/GLI, Se Saloon, New CITY, Baleno, Santro are all computer controlled cars. Here, valve timings, power stroke duration, amount of air+fuel and other kinds of thermal process timings are controlled by the computer and as all default timings are stored, we call it PROGRAMABLE FUEL INJECTION.

    now lets consider VTI, on revs below 4000 the computer optimises for economy, once u hit VTEC KICK IN point around 5000 revs the computer changes its profile, and now it opens intake valves for longer duration for more fuel+air, hence more power!!

    for NEO, anyone of u who has it, just open the bonnet and check wether u see typical 4 wires going into spark plugs from distributor, if yes then its NOT PGMFI or computer controlled engine, if NO then its and engize is of latest breed. BUT as NEO came in late 90s and HONDA gave PGMFI in early 2000s (01vti+) so according to my guess NEO IS NOT PGMFI.

    Lets Clear EFi, it means Electronic Fuel Inection. In this only fuel is injected electronically by computer. NO programmed timings for racing or fun, just for economy, thats why u see Santro gives good economy compared to cultus, alto. While New city gives better mileage too compared to older citys.

    SUM UP!
    cars without computer controlled or EFi engines are considered all mechanical, while new ones are computerised. SO which is better? definately computerised engines, as the electronics give u precision of fuel+air mixture, vavle durations in decimals, while in mechanics its not possible.

    Now at certain areas i mite be wrong. but still i shared what i knew best. tc guys

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    I wont Comment on Any1's post as I'm sick of correcting others.

    NEO in my opnion is the most powerful 1.5 ltr pak assembled car (comparing wid civic dolphin 1.5 SE, all EXi, Spectra {All right enough wid the laughing but Spectra is unfortunately 1.5 paki}) even it can be compared to 1.6 Baleno & 1.4 Sunny as well.

    PGMFi was introduced in Civics in the End of 1995 (when LXi, EXi & VTi replaced EL,SX,EX & SE)
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    Not all distrobutor less engines are efi, daewoo racer is an efi car having distributer too, there are many other pre 1995 cars with same setup these are basically obd I onboard diagnostics vehicles. In these cars fuel flue and mixture is electronically controlled where as timing is manual.

    MPFI is multipoint fuel injection i.e. multiple fuel injectors per cylinder, if we have only on injector like in daewoo then thats simple efi.

    conclusion

    All cars having ecu and a check engine light (a yellow light in shape of engine in dash) and no carb are efi cars.

    Multiple injectors=mpfi.

    no carb=full efi reffered in spectra as super efi

    pgm-fi (Programmable fuel injection), instead of controlling circuitry u have a microcontroller which reads instructions from flash rom (reProgrammable rom) and controlles engine functions

    Got my point

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    in my above post

    no carb=full efi reffered in spectra as super efi

    was mistakenly written it was meant to be

    no distributor=full efi reffered in spectra as super efi

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    Guys! thank your very much for your info! I know nothing about Honda... so I will open the bonnet and check if 4 wires are coming from spark plugs to distributor if I am able to. :p

    In the meantime tell me how often shall I change its engine oil and filters e.t.c.? Because I have Khyber on CNG and I change its oil after every 2000 KM. Shall I do the same for my City which is petrol or shall I increase the frequency? What if I change it to CNG because petrol is too costly, just today it again increased to about 46/litre.
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    Using cng do not shortern oil change interval, but it do shorten air filter, plugs change interval. But make it a custom on any car u have to change oil at 5k kms and from time to time check thickness of oil by putting oil on ur two finger usings dip stick. Bring ur fingers togather from where they are wet in oil then seperate them, if oil create lines of oil between ur fingers when u take them apart it indicates that it has grown thick and you will also feel the thickness whey u will press it, this indicates that its time to change oil. Colour do not indicate whether oil is clean or dirty.

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    Yaar I checked my car and 4 wires are going into the distributor.

    One more thing to ask is HOW MUCH IS THE TRANSFER FEES? I want to transfer this vehicle in my name. I have got the seller's ID card copy, transfer letter and car's original book. What is the procedure of transferring the vehicle and how much cost!? By the way I live in Karachi.

    One last thing is whether City has warning signal that says the fuel is low? What I mean to say is that in some cars like Corolla, Civic e.t.c there is a yellow or orange light which turns on when the fuel is very low and it indicates that its time to refuel. Is this available in this City?
    Why I am asking is because as you know I know nothing about City and I have seen some bulbs LED in it which are not working but I am not sure if one of them is what I am talking about above!? If you can confirm me then I will ask the electrician/mechanic to fix it. Plus I have to find some good electrician/mechanice of Honda in my area too! ... I live near Airport.
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    TechMan! yaar we r discussing ur car a few days now. Y dont u post a few pics of it. Als take a snap of ur engine as well.

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    haan yaar fahim I will post the pics.... my brother has the camera so it will take a couple of days don't worry!

    By the way I asked my mechanic and he says he will fit HoffMann CNG kit for Rs. 32000 - 33000.Is this the right price!? He used to fit Landirenzo but he said that he tested HoffMann kit in some other vehicle and it gave very good performance better than landi. He is our family mechaninc like a family doctor and all our previous cars used to go to him... even now my Khyber goes to him so there is no question of cheating or he is not skillful... the only question is IS THE PRICE RIGHT!? By the way the kit will not be AUTOMATIC i.e. it will not switch to CNG from PETROL at a certain RPM because he says my car uses plugs and this automatic system works on cars which don't have plugs.

    SO GUYS PLEASE ANSWER THE QUESTIONS IN MY LAST POST AND THIS POST.
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