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    Default Useless mudguard on Honda City 2011

    The tyres are: 195/60/R15 Yokohama ES100.
    As you can see the mudguard doesn't really do anything to stop the 'mud'. Even the slightest of water on the road and this happens. It can't be because the tyres are big. I've seen plenty of City's with even bigger tyres. My cousin has the same car with the exact same tyre size but he has a Euro Star tyre and this doesn't happen on his car!

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    Well bro maybe his tread pattern is different being a different brand? That may have affected water splash.

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    i believe...rims have more to do with water splashing...tyres will do wat rims tells them to do

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    Tread pattern and rims matter? Really? I thought it was only tyre width related.
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    damn
    with the stiff suspension of city
    and hard es100 tyres,
    ride must be awesome b.t.w !
    Life is short and very unpredictable just like a Quarter mile .....

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    Quote Originally Posted by xenerking View Post
    i believe...rims have more to do with water splashing...tyres will do wat rims tells them to do
    This went over my head
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    Quote Originally Posted by darthvader View Post
    Tread pattern and rims matter? Really? I thought it was only tyre width related.
    offset of rims seems more than the OEM, that is why these r out of fenders and splashing water/mudd on body.
    this is what happens when u chose rims only considering bling factor . bearings of ur car must be undergoing great stress
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    stock tyres do the same more or less...

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    You hardly see mud flaps/guards on cars here.. :-)
    If someone has it. They vanish when snow storm hit..
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    Quote Originally Posted by mustafa8228 View Post
    stock tyres do the same more or less...
    but not on fenders
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    The stock tire size is 175 / 65 R 15 where 175 is the width. You have 195 size tires and they are out of wheel wells, thus splash
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    Quote Originally Posted by hash4u View Post
    damn
    with the stiff suspension of city
    and hard es100 tyres,
    ride must be awesome b.t.w !
    but i also feel pity for the guys inside the car ones on bumpy roads

    Quote Originally Posted by drift222 View Post
    offset of rims seems more than the OEM, that is why these r out of fenders and splashing water/mudd on body.
    this is what happens when u chose rims only considering bling factor . bearings of ur car must be undergoing great stress
    very true

    Quote Originally Posted by autophile View Post
    The stock tire size is 175 / 65 R 15 where 175 is the width. You have 195 size tires and they are out of wheel wells, thus splash
    i humbly disagree. the width generaly matters towards inside of the car. what pushes the tyres OUT is the wrong offset. changing the tyre from 175 to 195 wont push it out, but the width inside would increase. only the wrong offset rims would push the tyres out

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    Quote Originally Posted by waleed80 View Post
    i humbly disagree. the width generaly matters towards inside of the car. what pushes the tyres OUT is the wrong offset. changing the tyre from 175 to 195 wont push it out, but the width inside would increase. only the wrong offset rims would push the tyres out
    Yaar I do not know the science, it is visible with the naked eye. You can compare the two City's with stock and wider tires.
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    Quote Originally Posted by autophile View Post
    Yaar I do not know the science, it is visible with the naked eye. You can compare the two City's with stock and wider tires.
    brother i own a City myself and m a very very ardent and close inspector of tyres and all this has happened to me already once. even in my ex platz, i switched from 155/80/13 to 185/70/13. tyres didnt come out even a milimeter. they just widen towards the inner side. then one day i changed the Rims and everything got screwed up. it had wrong offset which pushed the complete wheel outwards, thereby touching the tyres to the fender edges on bumps. before that, even with a truck load in the car, the tyres would go inside the mudguards, but would never touch them. hence, i ended up giving the alloys back in like next 3 hours

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    Quote Originally Posted by drift222 View Post
    offset of rims seems more than the OEM, that is why these r out of fenders and splashing water/mudd on body.
    this is what happens when u chose rims only considering bling factor . bearings of ur car must be undergoing great stress
    Okkkk that scares me. The tyre shop where I got these from didn't mention this at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by darthvader View Post
    Okkkk that scares me. The tyre shop where I got these from didn't mention this at all.
    I highly doubt that shopkeepers ll be knowing significance of offset.
    find some decent branded light weight wheels, with width not more than 6 jj and right offset, or shift back to stock rims with 185/65R15 size.
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    Its all due to your tires, partly width and partly the tread pattern... Theres no logic behind putting broader tyres and awful quality Chinese rims...

    You should have opted for city aspire rims and tires, or just remained with stock size tire but with better rubber...

    Width doesn't help much in braking... It's the quality of the rubber which does.

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    ^^^^^ offset of the rim sir offset....Quality makes no difference within the same offset, but if the offset is wrong, then no matter which quality u use, this would happen. here are few links

    How do wheel offsets work? | World One Performance Blog

    Wheel Offset: Why it Matters - Guide To Proper Honda Wheel Offset - Honda Tuning Magazine

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    it is clearly evident from the above picture that wheels with negative offset would push the tyres OUT, hence the car would give a wider look, but the tyres would touch the fender edges on bumps and also cause this splash issue which @darthvader is facing. similarly, wheels with positive offset would look the other way round (just like the way front wheels of a bus give a look....like andar kee side par dabay dabay). width of the tyre doesnt matter cause if the offset is right, the tyres wont inflate towards outside of the rim cause of the small retaining wall kind of thing on the outer perimeter of the rim. hope this makes things clear

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    Definitely wrong offset
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    What I want to know is whether if its causing any harm to the car. The tyre doesn't touch the fender, it protrudes out just a little bit. If it's not causing any harm then I can change the rim in a few months. It's been nearly two years since I got these btw and the car seems fine.
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