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    Default My city is dying. Pls help!!!

    I have 2009 A/T City. I was running it on synthetic oil. And it was giving me a *** average of 10km/ltr

    Recently I changed the oil to Caltex Havoline (black bottle dont remember the exact variant name 20w-50w something). I got oil and air filters changed as well.

    And now my car is not giving more than 8.5 or 8.8 km/ltr.

    What seems to be the reason ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by aminurrehman View Post
    I have 2009 A/T City. I was running it on synthetic oil. And it was giving me a *** average of 10km/ltr

    Recently I changed the oil to Caltex Havoline (black bottle dont remember the exact variant name 20w-50w something). I got oil and air filters changed as well.

    And now my car is not giving more than 8.5 or 8.8 km/ltr.

    What seems to be the reason ?
    When was it last time tuned ?

    get it scanned and check its O2 if present MAF/MAP, Valve clearences and Short and Long Term fuel Trims
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    check the engine oil u filled .... 20wxx is usually thick oil and it produce some resistance to run engine freely... i didnt read the service manual of ur car but still i think u should go with synthetic oil like 5w40 best thing to consult oil variant from service manual. keep consulting your service manual to save your genuine car

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    20-50 for city?

    This oil is for near-dead engines eating oil. So why did you choose this oil in the first place???

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    The OEM oil for this vehicle is 5w30 synthetic. The manual may tell you to use a wide range of grades but at max, ppl here go for 10w30.

    Why would you opt for such a thick oil as 20w50??


    Now go and drain this mistake and refill with Honda OEM oil.


    On a side note, I am unclear why this had happened. But apparently, saving couple of bucks seems to be the reason.

    For 3.7 Litres,
    20w50 @ ~Rs:1600 (Havoline)
    10w30 @ ~Rs:1900 (Havoline)
    5w30 @ ~Rs:2200 (OEM-Honda by Total)
    5w30 @ Rs:3000 (OEM-Honda by CHevron) New!!


    If we take comparison bw 1 & 3, the question comes down to

    Would you rather save 600 and risk the engine of a 1.3 Mil Car??

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    Quote Originally Posted by aminurrehman View Post
    I have 2009 A/T City. I was running it on synthetic oil. And it was giving me a *** average of 10km/ltr

    Recently I changed the oil to Caltex Havoline (black bottle dont remember the exact variant name 20w-50w something). I got oil and air filters changed as well.

    And now my car is not giving more than 8.5 or 8.8 km/ltr.

    What seems to be the reason ?
    Brother you are running your car on rickshaw grade engine oil.

    Use shell helix Ultra.
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    i think OP got struck to some good desi mechanic havoline ones who say this is best oil. you should take your car to honda dealership asap and change its engine oil to honda oem synthetic and check all fluids and get it tuned by them then you will feel the difference this car has best mileage amongst 1300CC cars my friend had one 2011 city m/t it used to give 16-17kmp/l on highways and 13-14kmp/l in local with ac. you have poured such thick oil which is making engine internals hard to work and it is causing decrease in performance and fuel efficiency. If you dont prefer honda oils then use LM ZIC or Castrol 5W-30 synthetic with OEM Honda filter and feel the difference.

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    Okay so I sent my car to Honda and now its back and everything is back to normal infact, better now

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    By the title...i thought Ur car is in icu.
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    city AT is not good at mileage! MT is flawless in giving good mileag

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    Just change oil to zic a+ (5w-20)

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    Shittt guysss!!!

    Even after getting it back from Honda. Its still giving 8.5km/ltr

    It used to give 10km/ltr before I changed the oil and filters

    Please helppp!!!

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    did you get the oil changed ?

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    get the engine flushed first of all using a proper brand engine flush! after that pour the oil that u want to use! besides get that the cars throttle body serviced and make sure that ur spark plugs are in good condition! besides this reset the ecu!
    even have ur cars alignment balancing checked and the air pressure!
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    - I had the Throttle Body serviced!
    - I am not sure if they checked the spark plugs
    - How will they Flush the engine ?

    My biggest concern is;
    - my car was giving 10km/ltr
    - then I got a filters and oil changed. Havoline black wala
    - then my fuel avg dropped down to 5-6km/ltr
    - then I went to Honda. They did the Throttle body cleanup and changed the oil to synthetic.
    - I am not sure if they checked the plugs
    - Then they asked me to run the car on HiOctane. Which I did but still no use.
    - And after getting it back from Honda Defence, I also feel that my staring has gone hard as well.

    Please suggest me what should I do and which service station should I go to etc.

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    Also, if I want to get new plugs for city. Which plugs should I buy and where would I get them.

    I want plugs that give me at least 10km/ltr and gives a nice kick in pickup of the car.

    A friend told me, there is no point in changing plugs alone. You have to change plug cables and other bunch of stuff to make it work. How true is that ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by aminurrehman View Post
    Also, if I want to get new plugs for city. Which plugs should I buy and where would I get them.

    I want plugs that give me at least 10km/ltr and gives a nice kick in pickup of the car.

    A friend told me, there is no point in changing plugs alone. You have to change plug cables and other bunch of stuff to make it work. How true is that ?
    steering becoming hard? u car needs wheel alignment and balancing. and this changing cable thing is only for really old cars with distributors and weak coils(suzukis). the original wires in ur car are good for atleast 150k km(and about the life of the engine if it is coil on the plug type ignition system).
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    And what to do with the mileage problem please anyone ?

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