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    Default Honda City IDSI 2005 Messup

    Dear all experts, please get me out of the following situation:
    I have city 2005 idsi. purchased it by trusting somebody and without showing it to someone. I recently learnt that its engine has been changed with imported engine(Kaabli) and its ECU is of an automatic car while the car itself is manual transmission.
    Problem I am facing is that it is consuming too much petrol (5KM/L and 12 KM/Kg of CNG), since I have recently purchased therefore thought that it requires tuning but nobody is ready to tune it. It emits white smoke from silencer after initial startup and plugs have oil on the tips. One mechanic told me that you should get its head faced. One electrician asked me to replace the assembly, ECU and wiring set.
    Since car is missing therefore throttle body needs replacement as recommended by one mechanic.
    Guys do not know what to do. Members from Rawalpindi/Islamabad are requested to guide for the proper mechanic so that I can identify the problem and move to the solution. or the guys who have changed their assembly or ECU are requested to guide me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aamirq View Post
    the first step should be come face to face with the person who sold you the car!
    The guy went to UK after selling the car

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    Quote Originally Posted by meh1 View Post
    i went to buy a car owned by friend's friend. when they showed me chasis no on books, i insisted on showing me engine no. and everyone laughed like a fool. they said nobody checks engine no. but i still insisted and checked and verified Engine no. i am sorry u learnt it hard way.
    for now get current engine checked. and then you can decide what is feasible.
    Well I am thinking to go for the compression test

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    Quote Originally Posted by ahm13 View Post
    white smoke usually means ur engine's is life is over..

    i will try to find another engine with manual ecu and try to do a swap.. it will cost u money but thats the best solution i believe..
    Please let me know if you will find one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NiGhTShAdE View Post
    First make sure that swapped engine is L12A1 and not L12A.... for ECU you have to get it changed there is no other solution...to make sure you are buying correct ECU i would recommend you to have a look at L12A1's manual ECU of any other car and note down all that is written on it and then compare it to the one that you will buy.... and for engine just show it to a good mechanic first ....maybe just changing rings, head gasket and Valve seals will solve the problem....this would reduce your expenditure....Dont go staright for buying kabli engine unless there is no other solution....there would be no gurantee that new kabli engine would be Ok ...you may again end rebuilding it.....and lastly pay some agent to get engine registered to you car when all is rectified...you may need to pay some extra bucks as you would not be having Engine reciept i assume....
    You are right that first I have to check for engine number but I could not find the number where it should be so trying to find the engine number because it was matched by one of my friend while purchasing the car, its on the registration book

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fahad.Ayub View Post
    firstly check which engine has been installed in your car
    secondly its a very difficult task to find the correct ECU as mots of the engines imported are along with A/T ECU
    thirdly if the engine change isnt mentioned on the registration book get the engine changed with a proper setup and you'll be good to go
    Honda City parts arent that expensive so dont spend more than 30-40k on a complete engine with everything intact
    i know of a person in KHI who imports engines and parts (I usually buy stuff from him) i'll inquire the price of a complete engine for you
    Please get in contact with the person and ask him that is it possible to buy a anual ecu from the imported lot alongwith l12a engine

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    Quote Originally Posted by kamranzafar781 View Post
    You are right that first I have to check for engine number but I could not find the number where it should be so trying to find the engine number because it was matched by one of my friend while purchasing the car, its on the registration book
    For L12A1 engine, written L12A1 is easily visible from top on engine block on gear assembly side.....for engine number you need to look further deep on the same side....

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    Quote Originally Posted by kamranzafar781 View Post
    The guy went to UK after selling the car
    sellers always go abroad after selling cars!!!

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    check engine compression, if its good and you see smoke on startup then change the valve seals. Get a manual ECU and install it, japanese models had 2 o2 sensors and a cat.

    You would need those or an o2 emulator to fool the ECU
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    Quote Originally Posted by kamranzafar781 View Post
    You are right but now I am aftraid to trust anyone to get rippped again. I will only trust the mechanic who has done such type of swaps
    Even dont trust themselves. Dont bet your money on someone else decision. Search yourself and workout the item you intend to bought yourself. Simple. Manual ECU + Manual Head Assembly. Other than that if you only have white smoke this means headgasket is gone. it can be changed easily and reliably
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    get a new engine just costs 10 k
    Past cant be brought back ..but future can be made even better than the Past..if one wants to.. ....

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    Quote Originally Posted by janleva View Post
    get a new engine just costs 10 k
    Mil he na jye 10 k ka kahin.. if that was the case it would be heavily used to ale generator

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    Quote Originally Posted by kamranzafar781 View Post
    please get in contact with the person and ask him that is it possible to buy a anual ecu from the imported lot alongwith l12a engine
    sad to know about your story,
    hows your car working now. Have you changed engine or get them repaired with manuel ecu??
    Let me know the situation

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    Quote Originally Posted by waqar613 View Post
    sad to know about your story,
    hows your car working now. Have you changed engine or get them repaired with manuel ecu??
    Let me know the situation
    I sold the car. I tried my best to fix it up but I could not and then sold it at a loss of almost 100K

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    Quote Originally Posted by kamranzafar781 View Post
    I sold the car. I tried my best to fix it up but I could not and then sold it at a loss of almost 100K
    I think this was the right decision, even if you had to face loss. I hope you didnt spend much for fixing the problems. Had you replaced the engine and all, it would have costed you somewhere around the same, plus time and stress.

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