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    which gear oil to use with honda city manual transmission .its 1999 honda city exi d15b2 engine with no transmission problem (Alhamdulilah)

    @Xulfiqar i was thinking to charge zic 75w85 but u recommend delo gold which is 15w40 but i red at wikipedia which says

    "For example, many modern gearboxes use a 75W90 gear oil, which is actually of equivalent viscosity to a 10W40 motor oil"

    so what should i do ..... what will be the right choice delo gold or zic ?


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    @Xulfiqar... kindly guide me

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    no answer??? @Xulfiqar

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    Try to find it from user manual.

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    from lawn mowers to sedan cars with wings to fly 75W80 is for auto cvt
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    Honda genuine mtf or caltex delo.
    Anything other than this will hurt the gearbox.

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    As far as gear oils are concerned, always use Honda genuine gear oil. This car is very sensitive to gear oil viscosity and non-other manufacturer I know has gear oil with viscosity recommended by the Honda.

    I have tried different gear oils and all of them results in bad gear behavior then eventually shifted back to Honda genuine and problem was solved.

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    delo gold viscosity is same as honda mtf.... said by Xulfiqar

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    Quote Originally Posted by searchingeyez View Post
    delo gold viscosity is same as honda mtf.... said by Xulfiqar
    He never said that.

    Delo is 15w-40 and honda is 20w-50.

    He said that he used caltex delo in honda manual trannys and they worked out perfectly.



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    btw ....today before aftari i, i filled caltex delo gold ultra 15w40 in tranny .... its worked good for 2km distance but now lets c what it will do further

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    Quote Originally Posted by talhawaleed View Post
    As far as gear oils are concerned, always use Honda genuine gear oil. This car is very sensitive to gear oil viscosity and non-other manufacturer I know has gear oil with viscosity recommended by the Honda.

    I have tried different gear oils and all of them results in bad gear behavior then eventually shifted back to Honda genuine and problem was solved.

    I have filled a great number of Honda vehicles with Caltex/Chevron Delo 15W/40 and it worked perfect. It used to be mentioned in the older Honda service manuals.

    WHen they started packing their own stuff it became honda mtf.
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    @Xulfiqar u r great.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by omarabdullah022 View Post
    He never said that.

    Delo is 15w-40 and honda is 20w-50.

    He said that he used caltex delo in honda manual trannys and they worked out perfectly.



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    I feel, you are highly mistaken as gear oils comes in 75W-90 ratings etc. we are talking about gear oils not engine oils. Kindly correct me or maybe I am confused. As far as Engine oils are concerned, we can use any brand till we understand what is needed such as 10W-30, 5W-30 or 10W-40 as per environmental condition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xulfiqar View Post
    I have filled a great number of Honda vehicles with Caltex/Chevron Delo 15W/40 and it worked perfect. It used to be mentioned in the older Honda service manuals.

    WHen they started packing their own stuff it became honda mtf.
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    Are you sure, that Honda uses 15W-40 gear oil as that's a very less viscosity. If that true then that implies that we can fill 15w-40 normal engine oils in these gear boxes. Kindly correct me as recently once I bought the Honda gear oil and no where it was mentioned regarding the viscosity so I had to blindly relay on what they offered.

    Thanks to you, my iDSi gear box used to stuck as I was using Zic gear oil then I read the post where you mentioned that Honda gears are very sensitive and does not behaves normally to gear oils available in market. Mechanic recommended me opening the entire gear box and fixing it and gave me an advance bill of Rs 8000 roughly. I went for a flush with kerosene and then switched back to Honda genuine gear oil and problem was solved.

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    Are you sure, that Honda uses 15W-40 gear oil as that's a very less viscosity. If that true then that implies that we can fill 15w-40 normal engine oils in these gear boxes. Kindly correct me as recently once I bought the Honda gear oil and no where it was mentioned regarding the viscosity so I had to blindly relay on what they offered.

    Thanks to you, my iDSi gear box used to stuck as I was using Zic gear oil then I read the post where you mentioned that Honda gears are very sensitive and does not behaves normally to gear oils available in market. Mechanic recommended me opening the entire gear box and fixing it and gave me an advance bill of Rs 8000 roughly. I went for a flush with kerosene and then switched back to Honda genuine gear oil and problem was solved.

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    The old civic/ballade/integra and the accord/vigor manuals tell you so, The Delo Gold (old name Delo 500) product is chosen because it has excellent anti foaming charecteristics, is quite stout and readily available in Pakistan. Yes it was 15w40 - diesel engine oil.

    Later on when Honda started selling manual trans fluid - they claimed to only use theirs (marketing). If I try to count the number kms those same transmissions have done then it would be quite astronomical - every single one never faltered and every single one that was changed out from some ghaslty 140 gear oil to Delo gold was a smooth runner, infact it even gave better fuel economy as there was less drag.

    Not all transmissions take gear oil, - e.g. MB manual transmissions take automatic transmission fluid and they work flawlessly, the ZF units used in some land rovers are also like that.
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    what about newer Honda's ? can we use delo gold in them ?

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    you can - I forget where but I did come across a statement in the 2002 Accord repair manual to use old spec SJ engine oil in place where Honda MTF is not sold, the concept was to take advantage of the high pressure additives in the SJ rated engine oils.

    Honda MTF is pretty thin itself like regular diesel oil and nothing like gear oil.
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    Quote Originally Posted by talhawaleed View Post
    I feel, you are highly mistaken as gear oils comes in 75W-90 ratings etc. we are talking about gear oils not engine oils. Kindly correct me or maybe I am confused. As far as Engine oils are concerned, we can use any brand till we understand what is needed such as 10W-30, 5W-30 or 10W-40 as per environmental condition.
    Why am I mistaken? I'm no expert but I know basic stuff on lubricants thanks to PW... its not about " gaara/mota oil". Always follow the manufacturer's requirements.

    Firstly I was not talking about gear oils in general. I was talking about honda genuine mtf and last time I checked it had a had a thin viscosity compared to other gear oils. Im not sure if it was 20w-50 or not but ill recheck and post a picture. As far as I can remember using thick, viscous oil in a honda manual tranny will hurt the brass stuff in the gearbox.

    same goes for engine oils, you have to follow what the car manufacturer tells you to. You cant use a modern API-SN oil in a cuore engine because it has flat tappet rockers and they need loads of ZDDP content. Similarly you need 5w-30 thin oil for carby cultus since it has hydraulic tappet lifters. You end up with jammed valves on the 100k kms mark if you use 20w-50 mineral oil.

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    written on honda civic 1988 -1991 manual book

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    which gear oil to use for honda city -1446197which gear oil to use for honda city -1446198which gear oil to use for honda city -1446199MTF (Manual Transmission Fluids) are specialized fluids developed for different synchronizer materials used in gears. Other oils would damage these materials. Use only recommended oil for gears.

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