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    Default Honda positioning City to compete with Corolla.

    Honda is now making Civic a premium compact sedan, positioning City to compete with Corolla.

    Corolla will no longer be in the same category as the Civic. This is one of the main reasons of the huge increase in the price of the Civic world wide.

    The next generation city will be a larger car, taking place of the Civic, with the same price tag it carries today.

    Civic has matured into a premium compact sedan, leaving City to rule the economy sedan market.
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    Any speculation as to when the next city shape is due?..regards.
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    @Alpha
    That is a very big speculation, and I think you are very wrong. From the last 30yrs or so these two have been competitors in the same class and that is about to change and you want me to believe that no way. This will be a mistake on the side of Honda and Toyota. For one to raise the class and the other to lower it.

    Yes they have both togather managed to raise the class they were from compact to sub-compact over the years.
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    he is probably relating his theory for Pk users only,, as corolla does offer 1.3l engine,, so does city,


    honda offers 2 different models as engine capacity increses,, and toyota offers diffirent engines including deisel category in same chassis. i think this is the main diffirence in PK models.
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    thts a nice topic

    waisay bhi as far as size is concerned reborn civic is far more wider then the corolla n i think its interior cockpit is also different frm the cars present in this segment

    n i think there arent any bright chances for the next corolla as the shape is not even close to civic

    new corolla has a dull shape n i think we all admit

    out here we are discussing it on a wider prospect plz dnt discuss tht

    corolla is corrolle chahay jaisi bhi hoon people will buy it this or tht

    i think this is the first topic so far i hav seen where sum ones compairing civic n corolla internationally

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    @levin
    Toyota offering 1.3 in Pak coz it does not have anything to compete with city, but that is going to change since Indus Toyota will be forced to offer more models. keeping single manufacturing unit fr a single model is cheaper, compared to two unit for two different models. And Honda still does offer the Civic in other countries with the same engine found in the City 1.3. You have option of with the IMA or without.
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    racerf1: so far indus has coure, corolla, hilux, hiace which are mostly sold,, commercial/corperate use. govt/corporate clients still prefare these over Honda cars, especially due to more choice available when they buy in bulk.

    altis, and camry here falls in luxury.

    also saw rav4 in local showroom,, Long and short Indus has much bigger variety of models.
    toyota competes with suzuki and others too i guess
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    @levin
    Actually in Khi I have noticed Corporates prefer honda then Toyota for some reason as two of my friends are given Hondas. And all their colleagues have them too.

    As for the government I have seen a mix, except in the case of the commercial vehicles as Toyota is the only one offering them in Pak.

    Anything other then Coure or Corolla is imported by Indus not made in Pak.
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    @ Racerf1

    Ashfaq bhai ager aap car (corolla or civic) leney jatay ho kisi showroom per to dealer aap say sirf 2 baatien kehta hai.
    1: ager aap ki drive sirf within city hai to CIVIC
    2: ager aap ki drivie ziada tar highways par hai to Corolla
    it means corolla is tougher than civic ,matlab corolla zulm bardasht kar leti hai aap kia irshaad farmatay ho? corolla itni sell kyun hoti hai?aakhir koi na koi wajah to hai na

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    bhai, main ager city ko compare karoon corolla k saath, accord ko compare karoon camry k saath to phir civic ko kis k saath compare karoon?
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    @ oodbalow
    Agree with you LOLZ

    In my family there is more then 100 corolla and just 3 civic.
    Family means Whole Family .
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    GUYZ HONDA AUR TOYOTA KO COMPARE SAUDIA RAB MAIN IS TARAH KIYA JATA HAI . .

    ACCORD - CAMRY
    CIVIC - COROLLA
    CITY - YARIS
    JAZZ - VITZ ( HERE IS NAME OF VITZ IS ALSO YARIS )
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    BadBoy got the competition right.
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    OK Then i will compare Civic with my Platz.
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    this will only happen in pakitan/india of when city takes place of Civic to compete with corolla....worldwide, civic and corolla are the known rivalries and have been for decades
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    Hmm

    So compare 1.5L STEERMATIC with 1.8 VVTi.

    And IDSI with XLi.

    Price and features both r to be considered.

    @jaan99
    LOLZ.
    I think in PAK CiViC make its own category.

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    @ jaan99:

    LMAO yaar...! You just said something, that I was about to ...!
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    This is not a speculation. Back in the 80s, Corona was the competition for Accord. Look at the premio now. It does not compare with the Accord now, they introduced CAMRY. Corona brand has gone.....Premio has not caught up yet.

    Honda has cashed out on the success of the Civic and is now moving it upmarket. People are willing to pay the premium price on the Civic, not in Pakistan at this point. City competes with Corolla in size and performance. Newer generations of City will further enhance the value.

    Back in the 80s and 90s and even in early 2000s, there were far less Civics than there were Corollas. Honda wants to keep it that way. It does not want Civic to become an Awami brand in Pakistan, the car for the masses now is City.

    Honda wants a sophisticated and classy image for the Civic. The 06 Civic fits the bill. The base price on a Civic has shifted from 11,000 dollars to 15,000 dollars in the US. At the same time, FIT ( Jazz) has been introduced at the price point where Civic used to sell last year.

    Corolla has a much bigger market worldwide than Honda and won't shift it into a premium market. This is another reason that Toyota has delayed the launch of the new Corolla. They are no longer targeting Civic.

    Get ready for City, Corolla comparos
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    so if u say that u have that much information then tell us when would new model for city is going to be launched?

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    I am just stating my opnion based on the facts I have gathered from different sources.

    The new City comes out in 2008.
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    since the new civic has been launched i havent seen any body discussing about the accessories this car is carrying with it as 13 lakh is a big amount this car dosenot carries basic functions like keyless entry and retrictable mirrors and they have also removed the 10 cd changer box which they used to provide in 10 lakh exi this is the extent to which we people are being exploited by these manufacturers i own a 2005 exi and i am a honda fan but i will surely prefer cl7 accord or premio if i decide to change my car vti would have been well priced if it would carry new and attrative functions model as it still carries those pathetic wheel caps and that nasty seat fabric i wonder abt these honda officials who have launched this car as if we analyse we see more exi,s on road the vti from 2001 to 2005 model i guess honda has lost a big market of 1500 cc which was doing very well in my opinion spending more then a million on a local car is not worth.

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