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    Default Lancer 1.6 GLx OR City VTEC Steermatic

    Salam Bhaio

    I am on verge of a buying decision. I would have made this decision last month but someone suggested to wait for a month and get yourself a 2007 model (which was a wise suggestion). So am planning to buy one of the subjected cars in Jan 2007 inshaAllah. I will maintain it for 5 years.

    I just need your help to decide which one to buy considering following points in their priority:

    Lancer 1.6 GLX (CNG) vs CITY VTEC Steermatic

    1. Drive quality
    2. Comfort
    3. Parts and repair cost (not the regular maintenance)
    4. market value after 5 years. (considering that a new model/shape of both cars maybe launched within next 5 years)
    5. Value for money

    PS. I also heard from a reliable source in Atals company that the prices of Civic and City Vtec will be reduced in near future to promote their sales. He did not mention when and how much would be the reduction.
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    Salam

    Yes AGS Batteries is a sister concern of Atlas.
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    CITY is local market car thts whu its will RULE. While LANCER is very old manufactured in 2004 two year old car what happend to DAEWOO racer cars in early nineties ??? tht will happen to this car , off course HONDA is a better BRAND. I will tell u why facts why CITY is better then LANCER. Lancer is 1.6 and CITY steermatic 1.5 , CITY 100cc smaller car but produces more POWER and more fuel efficient.


    MAX output , CITY (kw)(ps)(rpm) 81(110)(5800)
    Max torque, (N-M)(kg-m)(rpm) 143 (14.6)4800
    LANCER 77(105)(6000)
    138(14.1)(4500)
    vtec roxx!!!!!

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    So mr.RL589

    Please talk something that atleast makes sense!...

    Just because Honda City makes 4 more horsepower, it doesnt mean it is a better buY!...

    Please be a little more practical!
    RX-7? An RX-7? Really? I hope you know it's just a sports car with a washing machine under the hood.

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    for 1.6 its 2004. 1.3GLX its nov2005, for 1.3gl its i think june 2005

    when dewan decided the launch lancer in pkaistan they had a brief yet painful battle with customs. initially they had declared lancer with 60% (meaning declaring value by 60% less)

    the customs contacted mit. when they got the same reply from them, the customs house activated all the comercial attaches of pakistan and in two months got the actually assessment price on it.

    the stock (very large qty) they bought initially was cancelled by african distributors.
    people who use Highbeams.. once day would suffer too bigtime. People who drive slow on fast lanes, remember one day a vehicle carryin ur son, dad might get late to hospital coz people like u. underaged driving will land u in bigtime trouble one day or the other.. And the Blue indication light on ur speedometer denotes "High Beams"

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    Here is a little comparison of the 1500-1600 cars available in Pakistan.

    Notice the Horse Power Rating of all esp. CITY VTEC


    Lancer 16 GLx OR City VTEC Steermatic -686673
    Keep it "Simple" and "Original"

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    Why are you ppl comparing power ratings???...

    There is hardly any difference in power!...A 5 hp difference is so minimal that u wont be able to feel the difference in your daily driving at all!..

    and btw remember...Faster does not mean Better!!
    RX-7? An RX-7? Really? I hope you know it's just a sports car with a washing machine under the hood.

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    @ takko

    "when dewan decided the launch lancer in pkaistan they had a brief yet painful battle with customs. initially they had declared lancer with 60% (meaning declaring value by 60% less)

    the customs contacted mit. when they got the same reply from them, the customs house activated all the comercial attaches of pakistan and in two months got the actually assessment price on it."

    ALL CRAP!!!! JUST A PROPAGANDA BY LOCAL MANUFACTURERS. Let me reveal the actual story...

    Agha Khan Univ. bought some Lancers just before Dewan through the old distributor at CNF basis (means the invoice price at customs commercial invoice had in-built distributor commission which was to be transmitted from MMC to previous distributor). That price was the 1st price known to the customs. Those cars (1.3GL's) cost aku about 17laks!!!!, remember that the previous distributor was infamous of super-high profits, thats why you'd find genuine parts of old Lancers tooooo higher than new ones.

    Later when dewan got Mitsubishi, they obviously got whole-sale price, which was much below the price that customs knew ( in case of aku cars). THAT'S THE STORY.

    CRAP AGAIN!!!
    "the stock (very large qty) they bought initially was cancelled by african distributors"

    Proof 1: Export people would testify that it is technically not possible to cancell such orders. MMC/TTC/HMC or any car manufacturer never produces cars until LC is cleaned (say payment is made).

    Proof 2: Cars sold to specific market have specific equipments installed. Mitsubishi can never sell African cars in any other region.

    Proof 3: If the very large qty was bought by dewan they must have got it at good discount, it means that the second lot they bought shouldn't have that discount whereas all the vehicles imported since 2004 are imported at same price.

    I don't know who told you that story, if you have had some good contacts in customs you would have got correct info. Being a industry analyst I've tracked all such events happening to major players.

    Adios

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    better u should buy city 2002 it is better than 2005-06
    something fishy about number of total posts !!!!

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    Salam

    @highdiversity your review is quite an encouraging one and quite convincing in favour of Lancer. I had another myth about Lancer's not being Japnese, till when I saw the customs documents (bill of entry) of one on which the port of shipment was from a Japanese port.

    @nadeem5476, what you suggested is quite right but I don't wana get in the pain of a second hand car.

    @rjs nice comparison bro! but I agree with @gem_guy that here the didderence of power is ignorable.

    @doc its true that predicting something after 5 years is, nowadays, not possible but seeing the general trend of the buyers in our Market you can say that among these two City will definitly prove better in resale. I never liked City actually but your earlier reviews on this car have encouraged me enough to buy one. Also Lancer is my all time favorite, thats why I am finding it difficult to decide between the two. So far my vote is more for the City than Lancer cause till now I think technologically City is a better drive than Lancer. But as you know there are almost three weeks to go till the new year (I am gona book in the 1st or 2nd week of January inshaAllah) so Allah knows better what will happen till then.

    Thanks
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    Flip a coin!

    Whichever car matches ur priorities more than the other , go for it. Like lets say u want a sunroof :Lancer.
    Steermatic function : City abviously.
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    Salam

    @doc in a miserable situation like mine I think I'll have to resort to that

    While comparing the 1.6 GLx FF CNG no sunroof (1,049,000) and Vtec Steermatic (1,034,500)

    Build quality, durability, economy of CNG are the factors that are attaracting me to Lancer, one may say anything but at the end of the day CNG is much easier on the pocket ofcourse with some compromises.

    on the other hand, technological superiority, futuristic look, better average on petrol and comparitively better resale are the factors that pull me towards City.

    I think I'll just flip the coin on 1st of jan and will go for what ever is the result.
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    @highdiversity

    thanks for the very very very informative reply.
    my sources were from customs house karachi. will giv u the name of that custom guy soon. for the dealers... well neither i like them nor i chat with them..

    i would lov to know ur source. for the cancellation of order do check news from japan, and africans... u would find something. Mit worldwide has been known for financial frauds... infact there is a site dedicated to mits' darker light site...
    people who use Highbeams.. once day would suffer too bigtime. People who drive slow on fast lanes, remember one day a vehicle carryin ur son, dad might get late to hospital coz people like u. underaged driving will land u in bigtime trouble one day or the other.. And the Blue indication light on ur speedometer denotes "High Beams"

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    Any time go for Lancer 1.6 GLX. It is value for money and more luxurious than Steermatic. its resale is also increasing.
    user has been found to be a troll, ignore his posts.

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    Who knws , resale might increase. Im seeing many new GV Lancers on the road now.
    Look at the mkt now compared to 3 years ago.
    But anyway ur keeping it for 5 yrs , so resale shouldnt realy be a factor , should it??
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    @gemguy

    Go check the resale of teh Honda City VTEC Steermatic ... nill resale on that car.

    @hsnmz

    The City will not give better average on petrol.

    Petrol advantage goes to the 1.3L (1.2L actually) i-DSi City. The VTEC 1.5 wont be easy on the petrol.

    Also the 1.5 VTEC has very low resale, worst than the i-DSi. The i-DSi, I remember seeing the new facelifted i-DSi being sold for 7.25 lakhs quite while ago at a showroom.

    In todays paper ... 2004 Honda City Vario, 650,000!!! Resale ? Me dont think so ...

    And the backseat of the City ... ... I think you are getting me.

    (btw, I use the new city a lot being my cousins who lives next to me ... also have used a Lancer for a while. City 1.3 manual and Lancer 1.3 Auto)
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    @ahsan..

    I appreciate yr observation about City's Resale!..

    It is low indeed, But Resale of Lancer is even lower!!...

    Just compare the resale of 6 month old BASE Lancers and CItys!!!

    And if you notice...the price of a 1993 lancer is less than the price of a 1985 Civic!....I'm saying this to just give you an idea of Mitsu's resale!!
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    @Gem_guy

    i totall agree with u ... !!

    Lancer Have No Match With City In Comforts ... the main categary is different .. lancer cames in Categary of civics ... but u see there all lots the major things in which City is Better Then Lancer... !!

    Like Resale.
    Parts r cheaper then Lancer !!
    YOU want to PLAY, YOU got to PAY .. Performance doesn't come cheap. (Stock B16a Motor in a light weight Hatch.)

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    but...even if we keep the lower resale into consideration,
    I still believe Lancer is the better package!...

    Infact, i say its the best package currently available in PK in terms of Value for Money!!
    RX-7? An RX-7? Really? I hope you know it's just a sports car with a washing machine under the hood.

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    lancer 1.6 glx yes alll the way as dont like tht city more of shity 2 slow clumsy and just not mans car well more of a wife cars i would say seriously ahhhh no ofence 2 city owners have a look 2day how many woman u see driving city and tht 2 the vtec 1 i only sayin it seens some in my town now dont city guys get offended its woman car
    BUG ME AND I WILL CRASH INTO U!

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    @ GEM_GUY.
    every one knows that HONDA ia a better brand then MITSUBISHI.

    @CRASHD,
    Dear, shame on lancer (so called imported car lolzzzzz) even 1.6 produces less power and torque then 1.5 city . SO lancer is considered (female) . and city is (male) in comparison. this all abt engine , coming to interior cities much beller then ur sooo called!!!!!!!!!
    vtec roxx!!!!!

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