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    Default Honda City Fan Club

    (Maintainence schedule added at the end)

    Hi guys..!!! I thought we should have a Fan club for honda city.Theres already a fourm for City but thats dedicated to city steermatic only.in this club,we shall hav steermatic,idsi,cvt nd all models of city and all their variants. Well the history of this car is somewhat like this...


    First generation (1997-2000) On january 22nd 1997,the first Honda City was launched as a sedan.The city was always made for families and not for racing or sports.Thats why they were always equiped with the latest or sometimes firsts in the market.The interior was always very comforting and the seating position is also very comfortable.It had the options of power windows,and side view mirrors for the top model though they were not there in the base model.Power steeing,front seatbelts,digital clock,AC was available in the basic model too.One the outside,it was very elegantly designed.Beautiful,handsome and decent.Under the hood,it had a 1300cc 16valve SOHC engine ,and was the first car to have 16-valve in 1300cc category.


    Second generation (2000-2003) On January 20th 2000, Honda replaced the original City of 1997 with an update.This model of city had the basic shape of its predecessor.but with new crystal head lamps at the front,power side view mirrors and a chrome lining around the rear numberplate garnish.It was the first car in pakistan to have rear crystal headlights.It had two varients. Exi and Exi-s.The Exi had manual windows and side view mirrors,body colored licence plate garnish(not chromed), semi-fabric seat covers, 165/13 tyres,black door mirrors and no high mount stop lamp.But the Exi-s had all these things in it.The outside looked more gracefull with crystal lights and some new lines on the exterior.The engine in both of them were same.But this one had Programed fuel injection(PGM-Fi).There was optional 4-speed automatic transmission available. The engine engine's maximum horse power=90/6400 and maximum torque =11.5/4700 This model was produced until 2003


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    Third generation (2003-2005) On 23rd August 2003, the third-generation Honda City was launched which had a totally new shape.It was a very stylish and aerodynamic shape introduced in pakistan for the first time.It also was the first car to introduce i-dsi (intelligence-dual and sequential ignation) and CVT (continuously variable transmission) in Pakistan.It had an engine which is higly fuel economic and was build specially for better fuel economy.This car was equipped with power windows(pinch free) , power side view mirrors, tilt adjustable steering column and yet another first,the EPS or electriconic power steering.it made the steering very very soft to turn and also it had no oil used in it so it had no maintanence required.Other featrure of this car is that its the first Euro 3 comliant car in pakistan,that means that its very low on harmful emmisions.The EURO 3 emission standard are applicable in Europe from the year 2000, they are considered to be amongst the most strict standards worldwide. The standard limits emissions to 2.1 g/kWh CO, 0.66 g/kWh HC, 5.0 g/kWh NOx, 0.1 g/kWh particles. Another striking feature is, the boot space(400ltrs).it was bigger then any local car availabe at that time.This car was basically meant for families.it had two glove compartments,a big boot,empty space under the rear seats, four glass holders,and also, a smal space provided in the two front doors.And guess what? All of these options were available in the basic version.This city was divided on just the basis of the drive-train.One was manual,and other was automatic. On the outside,this car was designed very sophisticatedly,it looked smaller than other cars in size from outside but is alot more spacious inside.the body design was an immediate hit among fans and poeple who knew somthing about this type of things.Even the side view mirrors are designed to cut through air.


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    Fourth generation (2005-present) In september 2005,the fourth generation City was released.It was basically a face-lifted version on the previous model.it is known as the City ZX in Thailand, India, the New City in Malaysia and City in Pakistan.The most significant changes are a new exterior (new front grille, new headlamps, new fog lights, newtaillights and bumpers). The front end has been extended forward by 65 mm (2.6 in) while the rear has been extended by 15 mm (0.6 in). The VTEC trim have 15 inch alloy wheels as standard equipment. Interior changes are minor but it does include an armrest for the driver.The rest remains almost same as in the previous model. The engine remains the same but the intake manifold has been modified, resulting a 10% temperature drop in the intake air temperature (IAT), the suspension has been upgraded as well. Honda City in Pakistan are using CVT gearbox for both i-DSI and VTEC variants. The CVT-VTEC 1.5L gearbox is equipped with a Simulated 7-Speed Automated Manual Transmission (AMT) using paddle shift buttons. This is very rare for a subcompact of its class.This VTEC variant was called City-steermatic.

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    Steermatic:- The steermatic is basicaly a name of a technology used in the city VTEC 1.5L model.this model had a different engine than the idsi.it had a 1.5L engine with an auto transmission.this was not any other auto transmission.its is steermatic,means that you can change gears just by push of a button on the steering wheel.this is basically used in F1 racing.It has 2 options,either you drive on fully automated CVT option,or you select a virtual manual transmission.For this,you would change the gears when you want with a push of a button.This model also have an opitiron meter and also stock imported 15" alloy rims with bridgestone Potenza tyres. This technology is very sophisticated and advanced,which,sadly was'nt accepted by the buyers in Pakistan because they simply could not understand it and hence,this particular model of city was discontined.


    I-dsi:- I-dsi stands for Intelligence-dual and sequential ignation.In this type of engine,two spark plugs are employed for each cylinder.That makes 8 spark plugs instead of 4 plugs used by most cars.Adding of an additional plug assures complete burning and utilizing the last drop of fuel thrown into the cylinders which would provide you the best performace and better fuel consumption.Not all the times the 8 plugs are working,but when u push your car through high revs or speeds,all of them work simeltaneously and thats when ypu can feel the difference.But theres one drawback in it,this engine is equiped with 8 valves not 16.Hence it decreased the performance and city seems to be out of breath after 5000RPMs,but as this is basically a family car,performance is not the priority.The best thing about this was the fuel economy,about which,you can read the paragraph below.

    Fifth generation (2009 onwards) On 31th january 2009,the fifth generation of the honda City was launched in Pakistan.Which was an immediate hit among the fans.The previous Honda City was criticised due to its shape,but this time the best thing was the shape,which is even more aerodynamic then the previous one and also resembles the big Honda brothers,Civic and Accord.The best thing about the exterior of this City is the front view of the car.The wide,sleek and elegently designed radiator grill gives a refreashing look to the car.The dimesions of the car are almost similar to those of the older model.The sharp lines on the hood gives the city some attitude on the road.The boot space is increased about 25%,from 400ltrs to 506ltrs.But the good news doesnt end there,under the hood,There is a fairly powerful 1.3L SOHC VTEC engine.which produces a healthy 100bhp,enough for a 1.3L car.But dont think that you would have to lose something on the fuel economy side to get this sort of power.The fuel economy is actually improved.Some indian car expert magzines gave the figures of 22km/ltr for the auto transmission,which is the best in its class.The emission standards are improved as well.Previous city was Euro 3 compliant,but the new city is Euro 4 compliant.which means that your car is enviornment friendly.The only thing which you need to be concered about is the interior,which feels abit cramped campared to the previous City,but there is a reason to it.In the pervious city.the hood and the trunk had only a small portion of the exterior length covered,and the cabin was much bigger,which gave nice interior space,but from outside,the car looked ugly to some eyes.To correct this ugliness,the car was redesigned with increased hood and trunk length from outside,this made it look much better but the drawback was the lesser interior space.The second thing was the missing silver portions on the interior bits and panels of the Pakistani City.The interior would have felt lively only if some spots of it would have been in silver color.But you have alot other advantages,like 15" rims,ABS as standard,vtec engine,details of fuel milage on a special screen in the speedometer,huge boot and many other small things. In a nutshel,the new Honda City is much more refined comparitively to the previous one.The basic things which matter alot have been improved like the engine and the exterior design.The ride of the car is also improved,thanks to the small changes in the suspension.All in all,its still a great package if you see it the value-for-money way in Pakistani market atleast.


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    Fuel Consumption:- The 2005 face-lifted Honda City i-DSI achieved an impressive 26.2km per liter of fuel consumption during a challenge in June 2007. The challenge requires the vehicle to be occupied by 4 persons (including the driver), air conditioning being switched on and a load of luggage. The whole route stretched more than 660km that consists of not only highway driving but also hill climbing. ==================================== Source:-My self mostly,wikipedia and Honda atlas.


    In Short:- In short,according to me,all this proves that Honda City has been a great car for a family to have at all times for more than a decade now.It has proven its self to be a complete car one would need at a price tag it is available for.An im one of the thousands of satisfied owners of it for the past one year. Now all we need are your comments and thoughts upon this small wonder.And also do make sure you post some pix of your own city if you have,of any model.Please feel free to express your feelings about this car.

    Maintainence schedule:-

    There have been a lot of queries regarding the maintainence shedule of Honda City. To help find members and guests find this information easily and quickly, i am writing the complete maintainence shedule which i have been following for the past 5 years for my car (180,000kms).Cost of completing the job may/may not be stated. Some of it may not be the same as that in maintainence book provided by Honda people. In that case, i ll state the reason of the difference.Here goes.

    Oils:-
    Havoline formula 10W30 (3.7ltr) and oil filter change @ 3000kms. Cost 1900rs

    Transmission oil (Manual transmission) 2 ltr @ 40,000kms.
    Honda original oil 1980rs (2ltr)
    Good quality Zic/ micking oil 800rs (2ltr)

    Transmission oil ( Automatic transmission) 2lre @ 35,000kms
    Honda CVT oil ONLY (3.2-3.4L.) 1980rs

    Brake oil
    Keep it topped up and change only if padel feels very soft n goes wayy down.
    Honda original oil

    Clutch operation oil
    Keep it topped up and change only if you it shows signs of trouble

    Parts change:-

    Brake pads change:-
    recommended @ 30,000kms
    Can use any good quality pads. (labour 400rs for 4 wheels plus pads, from 500rs to 2500rs)

    Fuel filter change @ 40,000kms (IF driven on petrol)

    Air filter change @ 10,000kms Original Honda filter is best.Good quality guard filter is good too.
    980rs for OEM, 350rs for Guard filter.

    Spark plugs @ 20,000kms Original Honda plugs (8 plugs for idsi. 4 for steermatic, new city ivtec and before-2003 model City)

    Timing belt. Not required. From 2003 onwards, all honda Citys have timing chains instead of belts.They usually last a life time.

    Tune-ups :-

    Throttle body service @ 20,000kms Cost around 500rs
    Tappets adjustment / valve clearence @ 20,000kms Cost around 500rs

    Brake adjustment front not required after pads change. rear @ 30,000kms (or when front pads changed)

    Expected Life of Some parts:-

    Brake pads 35,000kms if driven aggressively ( cost already mentioned)
    Clutch plate 110,000kms if driven aggressively ( around 2000rs labour and 6000rs for clutch+pressure plate)
    Clutch bearing 150,000kms (So change with clutch plate) (800rs)
    Tuneups can be delayed to 30,000kms IF the car is run in clean enviornment like in Islamabad etc (less dust)
    Engine oil change can be delays to 5,000kms but not good in long run.

    Service Manual Honda City ids-i 2003-2008:-
    http://www.putlocker.com/file/CED54F8B8FB00360

    Tip for keeping automatic transmission (Vario and steermatic) healthy on CNG:-
    Change engine oil at 3,000kms MAX.
    Tranny oil at 30,000kms
    Tune up (throttle and valve clearence) at 20,000kms
    Do NOT ignore idleing problems. Rough idleing means jerks to transmission and thats what kills it on CNG.
    Keep air filter clean and change at 10,000kms max.

    Instrument cluster cleaning DIY
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/d-i...ening-cleaning
    Console box opening and spray painting DIY
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/d-i...-respray-diy-1
    A/c service, the easy way
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/air...ck-c-service-1
    Honda City GTG at kallar kahar
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/get...g-kallar-kahar
    2nd Honda City GTG at kallar kahar
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/get...ar-23-dec-12-a

    Thats all for now.
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    [QUOTE=jaggi;2894262]
    Quote Originally Posted by vague_one View Post

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    I want to compound my Steermatic and Civic ...can I borrow it from u?

    If you scrool back a couple of pages, I`ve put pictures of two very curious children......now these children tried to give massages to each other's back via this polisher, end result the polisher refused to co-operate insisting it was below his dignity an is now in two peices.......The machine an shell is one piece whereas the buffing pad has been separated, I`m not sure how to put it back again, but yer more than welcome to come over an have a look with me if we can fix it, you can borrow it!


    Its beyond me how they were utilizing it for massages an whose idea it was, just an insight to what I have to deal with from these defective penguins I have roaming around my house.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lepricon880 View Post
    @ vague bro....on my trip to taxila i got 11.1 km/l .... average seems to keep on rising with the rise in kms on the trip metre
    MASHALLAH, told you my dear thread mate, give it a lil time, insaf hoga, zaroor hoga! Just keep on driving an see that avg meter climb to 17 an beyond, in the words of the putha underwear wearing man (Superman, who despite all logics, wore his red undies outside rather than inside his spandex suit) "UP UP AN AWAY!!!"
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    [QUOTE=vague_one;2894368]
    Quote Originally Posted by jaggi View Post


    If you scrool back a couple of pages, I`ve put pictures of two very curious children......now these children tried to give massages to each other's back via this polisher, end result the polisher refused to co-operate insisting it was below his dignity an is now in two peices.......The machine an shell is one piece whereas the buffing pad has been separated, I`m not sure how to put it back again, but yer more than welcome to come over an have a look with me if we can fix it, you can borrow it!


    Its beyond me how they were utilizing it for massages an whose idea it was, just an insight to what I have to deal with from these defective penguins I have roaming around my house.
    lol

    btw tell me ur location....I will come and fix it

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    Salam brother's;

    Does any one know the price of a city 2005 headlight?

    Thank you..
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    [QUOTE=jaggi;2894437]
    Quote Originally Posted by vague_one View Post

    lol

    btw tell me ur location....I will come and fix it
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    Quote Originally Posted by jaggi View Post
    @Ahmadbila

    from where to buy projectors/angle eyes?

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    Copy to me also when you found these head lights
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    Sotay huay thread walo........sirf aik pyaray bhai nai logo present kiya hai, aur koi nahin hai jis ko yeh ahem lagta hai ? Burri baat hai ustad!
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    @ vague , how you do you keep engine back & lower side so clean. And does this custom intake gives any benefit.

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    @ vague bro....insaf hora hay average of 14.1 km/l m getting now 8)
    cars and jets.....cant survive without em....!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by vague_one View Post
    paiti milti hai tareef karnay ki, keeray nakalnay par phainti parti hai, address bolo banday phonch jatay hain......baad mai tumnay bister kay neechay say bahar nahin ana.

    Just a note, since we are in Pakistan, no one gets an award for detailing or such stuff, aaj tak mujay koi medal nahin mila for my erratic driving down to my detailing adventures as of now.....it`s just these kind words that fellow enthusiasts say that make it worth the effort an time you put into yer ride.....thanks to the people for acknowledging! An Zohaib, yer comments gave me depression to the extent i went down after fajr an kept doing malish an manjai of the engine & experiments with different solutions for the interior on hidden areas till it was eventually time to go to office! Hahahahaha, at times i laugh at myself for being the sensitive type when it comes to rides, but i guess shauk da koi mull nai tay passion enu hi kenday nai...hai keh nai ?
    Dude you are unbelievable
    now let me tell you the true story of that day
    just when i arrived and saw your car for the first time i was like ALA!! it was super clean. when you opened the hood i was thinking he dont drive this car much, must have done 40k max. i was flabbergasted to know its touching the 100k mark. then you said you were getting your new ride soon and there i was thinking yeash!!this city is mine m gonna buy it from him ..and then you broke my heart when you said m going to give it to my family for daily use ..
    yes shauk da koi mul nahi and your passion is commendable
    and very soon we are meeting as i have to learn a lot of things from you

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    Quote Originally Posted by coolsmart View Post
    @ vague , how you do you keep engine back & lower side so clean. And does this custom intake gives any benefit.
    Engine is kept clean via my lil boys old baby bottle cleaner for tight places, my lil girls old back scrubber for hard to reach places, an assorted soft and hard bristal brushes for various spots an places. I use Turtle Wax Pre Soak available exclusively at Saca Autos on Montgomery Road Lahore only (as per my knowledge)as the cleanser an the results are infront of you.....its a time consuming back breaking act, especially since yer bent into the engine all the time, thought you do have to have some acrobatic skills to perch yerself on the engine to reach down vertically an clean the back side an sides. Intakes are a fun thing I must say, brings out the hooligan in you, I have developed this habit of revving up in underpasses on the canal an make people look around who the hell is making that commotion! The noise it generates is hellish fun, an to my approval it starts only after 4k on the rev counter, below thats it`s as silent as the original box filter. Power within the range has increased atleast the sound makes you feel that way....but yes there is a tiny bit of acceleration improvement. The mileage has increased to a consistent 1km extra per litre, every full tank i`m gettin around 35 to 40 more km`s that i used to with my stock box.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lepricon880 View Post
    @ vague bro....insaf hora hay average of 14.1 km/l m getting now 8)
    MashAllah, just keep on driving in a consistent style, dry the hyper miling techniques an you`ll get amazing results.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zohaib2226 View Post
    Dude you are unbelievable
    now let me tell you the true story of that day
    just when i arrived and saw your car for the first time i was like ALA!! it was super clean. when you opened the hood i was thinking he dont drive this car much, must have done 40k max. i was flabbergasted to know its touching the 100k mark. then you said you were getting your new ride soon and there i was thinking yeash!!this city is mine m gonna buy it from him ..and then you broke my heart when you said m going to give it to my family for daily use ..
    yes shauk da koi mul nahi and your passion is commendable
    and very soon we are meeting as i have to learn a lot of things from you
    Hehehe. thanks man, but I really appreciate honest remarks an I too accept the inner side is a bit off mark, do fankar haina meri zindagi mai, as per my logic an an kam akal my mind refuses to accept that out of 24 hours in a day, the two goofs sleep aroun 14hours , play for around 6hours cuz its summer break, devote two hours to television, spend the remaing one an half or so with their grand parents an whats left is a mere 15 or 10 mins a day on average that they sepnd in my car an why they MUST EAT TO SURVIVE AN DRINK MILK TO REJUVINATE THEMSELVES during those nerve rattling 10 mins is beyond anything I can phantom...akhir kyuh!!!!!GARI MAI HI GHUS KAR KHANA HAI AUR PEENA HAI, an the worst part is their guardin mum , who immedately comes to their defence "haye Usman subah ka kuch nahin khaya meray bachon nay, dekho kitnay sukar gaye hain wicharoh ka muh" Ab un ki amma ko kaun smjhaye, wicharay woh nahin MAi hun!!! An your more than welcome to come over any time an we`ll do yer ride, no problemo! oh an when you i came i just gotten into the ride after getting done with kapra phairing mode on the ride
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    n here is wht i use:
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    Planning on getting the following after my exams InshAllah:
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    2. A good set of Microfibre towels
    3. Synthetic Chamois from Ma-Fra. (I already have that Clean Cham but i screwed it up during it's first usage)
    4. A mediocre polisher.
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    Quote Originally Posted by devilz_apprentice View Post
    n here is wht i use:

    Planning on getting the following after my exams InshAllah:
    1. Mothers Professional Foam Pad Polish and Hand Glaze
    2. A good set of Microfibre towels
    3. Synthetic Chamois from Ma-Fra. (I already have that Clean Cham but i screwed it up during it's first usage)
    4. A mediocre polisher.
    5. Mothers Clay Bar.
    nice collection, mate, the usual culprits plus some nice exotics, though i personally feel mothers are hyped here, but they are good....I`ve been gettin pretty much the same results from Turtle Wax at very competitive rates so I`m more inclined to them.....just a matter of jaib.....mai koi turtle walan da phuppi da putar nai tay na mothers walayan nai meri bakri chuki aay. An that clean cham, you prolly tried to open it dry an ended up destroying it....righto?
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    Quote Originally Posted by zohaib2226 View Post
    Dude you are unbelievable
    now let me tell you the true story of that day
    just when i arrived and saw your car for the first time i was like ALA!! it was super clean. when you opened the hood i was thinking he dont drive this car much, must have done 40k max. i was flabbergasted to know its touching the 100k mark. then you said you were getting your new ride soon and there i was thinking yeash!!this city is mine m gonna buy it from him ..and then you broke my heart when you said m going to give it to my family for daily use ..
    yes shauk da koi mul nahi and your passion is commendable
    and very soon we are meeting as i have to learn a lot of things from you
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    i hate this fan club...not because the car is not good or people in this club are having any problem.... the problem is that yesterday i sold my city 2009


    Wish you all the best with your cities...best of luck mates nowonwards ahmadbila i will not visit your this fan club ...it hurts
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ogre View Post
    I think what our dear ogre meant was

    i envy this fan club... because the car is too good or people in this club are having no problems.... the problem is that yesterday i sold my city 2009 and bought a ___________ ( fill in the blank with your choice of half hearted attempts of cars e.g xli, liana)


    Wish you all the best with your cities...best of luck mates nowonwards ahmadbila i will not visit your this fan club ...it hurts to see you guys having soo much fun
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    Hello ladies n gentlemen .... soooo... seems like i ve been missing a looooottt of fun n action! was too damn busy with sum stuff , still am, though.
    will take a look at all the posts, specially the onces related to PW meet

    oh, my city (karmaan aali as @vauge_one said ) has done around 5000kms in the past 20 days yeah! 3 visits to lahore,1 to rwp, 3 to johrabad,1 to faislabad and today, it went to sumwhere between lahore and sargodha (pindi bhattian) and it literally showed its offroad capabilities i ll post a pic to let u guys know what im talking about
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