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    Default Honda City Fan Club

    (Maintainence schedule added at the end)

    Hi guys..!!! I thought we should have a Fan club for honda city.Theres already a fourm for City but thats dedicated to city steermatic only.in this club,we shall hav steermatic,idsi,cvt nd all models of city and all their variants. Well the history of this car is somewhat like this...


    First generation (1997-2000) On january 22nd 1997,the first Honda City was launched as a sedan.The city was always made for families and not for racing or sports.Thats why they were always equiped with the latest or sometimes firsts in the market.The interior was always very comforting and the seating position is also very comfortable.It had the options of power windows,and side view mirrors for the top model though they were not there in the base model.Power steeing,front seatbelts,digital clock,AC was available in the basic model too.One the outside,it was very elegantly designed.Beautiful,handsome and decent.Under the hood,it had a 1300cc 16valve SOHC engine ,and was the first car to have 16-valve in 1300cc category.


    Second generation (2000-2003) On January 20th 2000, Honda replaced the original City of 1997 with an update.This model of city had the basic shape of its predecessor.but with new crystal head lamps at the front,power side view mirrors and a chrome lining around the rear numberplate garnish.It was the first car in pakistan to have rear crystal headlights.It had two varients. Exi and Exi-s.The Exi had manual windows and side view mirrors,body colored licence plate garnish(not chromed), semi-fabric seat covers, 165/13 tyres,black door mirrors and no high mount stop lamp.But the Exi-s had all these things in it.The outside looked more gracefull with crystal lights and some new lines on the exterior.The engine in both of them were same.But this one had Programed fuel injection(PGM-Fi).There was optional 4-speed automatic transmission available. The engine engine's maximum horse power=90/6400 and maximum torque =11.5/4700 This model was produced until 2003


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    Third generation (2003-2005) On 23rd August 2003, the third-generation Honda City was launched which had a totally new shape.It was a very stylish and aerodynamic shape introduced in pakistan for the first time.It also was the first car to introduce i-dsi (intelligence-dual and sequential ignation) and CVT (continuously variable transmission) in Pakistan.It had an engine which is higly fuel economic and was build specially for better fuel economy.This car was equipped with power windows(pinch free) , power side view mirrors, tilt adjustable steering column and yet another first,the EPS or electriconic power steering.it made the steering very very soft to turn and also it had no oil used in it so it had no maintanence required.Other featrure of this car is that its the first Euro 3 comliant car in pakistan,that means that its very low on harmful emmisions.The EURO 3 emission standard are applicable in Europe from the year 2000, they are considered to be amongst the most strict standards worldwide. The standard limits emissions to 2.1 g/kWh CO, 0.66 g/kWh HC, 5.0 g/kWh NOx, 0.1 g/kWh particles. Another striking feature is, the boot space(400ltrs).it was bigger then any local car availabe at that time.This car was basically meant for families.it had two glove compartments,a big boot,empty space under the rear seats, four glass holders,and also, a smal space provided in the two front doors.And guess what? All of these options were available in the basic version.This city was divided on just the basis of the drive-train.One was manual,and other was automatic. On the outside,this car was designed very sophisticatedly,it looked smaller than other cars in size from outside but is alot more spacious inside.the body design was an immediate hit among fans and poeple who knew somthing about this type of things.Even the side view mirrors are designed to cut through air.


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    Fourth generation (2005-present) In september 2005,the fourth generation City was released.It was basically a face-lifted version on the previous model.it is known as the City ZX in Thailand, India, the New City in Malaysia and City in Pakistan.The most significant changes are a new exterior (new front grille, new headlamps, new fog lights, newtaillights and bumpers). The front end has been extended forward by 65 mm (2.6 in) while the rear has been extended by 15 mm (0.6 in). The VTEC trim have 15 inch alloy wheels as standard equipment. Interior changes are minor but it does include an armrest for the driver.The rest remains almost same as in the previous model. The engine remains the same but the intake manifold has been modified, resulting a 10% temperature drop in the intake air temperature (IAT), the suspension has been upgraded as well. Honda City in Pakistan are using CVT gearbox for both i-DSI and VTEC variants. The CVT-VTEC 1.5L gearbox is equipped with a Simulated 7-Speed Automated Manual Transmission (AMT) using paddle shift buttons. This is very rare for a subcompact of its class.This VTEC variant was called City-steermatic.

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    Steermatic:- The steermatic is basicaly a name of a technology used in the city VTEC 1.5L model.this model had a different engine than the idsi.it had a 1.5L engine with an auto transmission.this was not any other auto transmission.its is steermatic,means that you can change gears just by push of a button on the steering wheel.this is basically used in F1 racing.It has 2 options,either you drive on fully automated CVT option,or you select a virtual manual transmission.For this,you would change the gears when you want with a push of a button.This model also have an opitiron meter and also stock imported 15" alloy rims with bridgestone Potenza tyres. This technology is very sophisticated and advanced,which,sadly was'nt accepted by the buyers in Pakistan because they simply could not understand it and hence,this particular model of city was discontined.


    I-dsi:- I-dsi stands for Intelligence-dual and sequential ignation.In this type of engine,two spark plugs are employed for each cylinder.That makes 8 spark plugs instead of 4 plugs used by most cars.Adding of an additional plug assures complete burning and utilizing the last drop of fuel thrown into the cylinders which would provide you the best performace and better fuel consumption.Not all the times the 8 plugs are working,but when u push your car through high revs or speeds,all of them work simeltaneously and thats when ypu can feel the difference.But theres one drawback in it,this engine is equiped with 8 valves not 16.Hence it decreased the performance and city seems to be out of breath after 5000RPMs,but as this is basically a family car,performance is not the priority.The best thing about this was the fuel economy,about which,you can read the paragraph below.

    Fifth generation (2009 onwards) On 31th january 2009,the fifth generation of the honda City was launched in Pakistan.Which was an immediate hit among the fans.The previous Honda City was criticised due to its shape,but this time the best thing was the shape,which is even more aerodynamic then the previous one and also resembles the big Honda brothers,Civic and Accord.The best thing about the exterior of this City is the front view of the car.The wide,sleek and elegently designed radiator grill gives a refreashing look to the car.The dimesions of the car are almost similar to those of the older model.The sharp lines on the hood gives the city some attitude on the road.The boot space is increased about 25%,from 400ltrs to 506ltrs.But the good news doesnt end there,under the hood,There is a fairly powerful 1.3L SOHC VTEC engine.which produces a healthy 100bhp,enough for a 1.3L car.But dont think that you would have to lose something on the fuel economy side to get this sort of power.The fuel economy is actually improved.Some indian car expert magzines gave the figures of 22km/ltr for the auto transmission,which is the best in its class.The emission standards are improved as well.Previous city was Euro 3 compliant,but the new city is Euro 4 compliant.which means that your car is enviornment friendly.The only thing which you need to be concered about is the interior,which feels abit cramped campared to the previous City,but there is a reason to it.In the pervious city.the hood and the trunk had only a small portion of the exterior length covered,and the cabin was much bigger,which gave nice interior space,but from outside,the car looked ugly to some eyes.To correct this ugliness,the car was redesigned with increased hood and trunk length from outside,this made it look much better but the drawback was the lesser interior space.The second thing was the missing silver portions on the interior bits and panels of the Pakistani City.The interior would have felt lively only if some spots of it would have been in silver color.But you have alot other advantages,like 15" rims,ABS as standard,vtec engine,details of fuel milage on a special screen in the speedometer,huge boot and many other small things. In a nutshel,the new Honda City is much more refined comparitively to the previous one.The basic things which matter alot have been improved like the engine and the exterior design.The ride of the car is also improved,thanks to the small changes in the suspension.All in all,its still a great package if you see it the value-for-money way in Pakistani market atleast.


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    Fuel Consumption:- The 2005 face-lifted Honda City i-DSI achieved an impressive 26.2km per liter of fuel consumption during a challenge in June 2007. The challenge requires the vehicle to be occupied by 4 persons (including the driver), air conditioning being switched on and a load of luggage. The whole route stretched more than 660km that consists of not only highway driving but also hill climbing. ==================================== Source:-My self mostly,wikipedia and Honda atlas.


    In Short:- In short,according to me,all this proves that Honda City has been a great car for a family to have at all times for more than a decade now.It has proven its self to be a complete car one would need at a price tag it is available for.An im one of the thousands of satisfied owners of it for the past one year. Now all we need are your comments and thoughts upon this small wonder.And also do make sure you post some pix of your own city if you have,of any model.Please feel free to express your feelings about this car.

    Maintainence schedule:-

    There have been a lot of queries regarding the maintainence shedule of Honda City. To help find members and guests find this information easily and quickly, i am writing the complete maintainence shedule which i have been following for the past 5 years for my car (180,000kms).Cost of completing the job may/may not be stated. Some of it may not be the same as that in maintainence book provided by Honda people. In that case, i ll state the reason of the difference.Here goes.

    Oils:-
    Havoline formula 10W30 (3.7ltr) and oil filter change @ 3000kms. Cost 1900rs

    Transmission oil (Manual transmission) 2 ltr @ 40,000kms.
    Honda original oil 1980rs (2ltr)
    Good quality Zic/ micking oil 800rs (2ltr)

    Transmission oil ( Automatic transmission) 2lre @ 35,000kms
    Honda CVT oil ONLY (3.2-3.4L.) 1980rs

    Brake oil
    Keep it topped up and change only if padel feels very soft n goes wayy down.
    Honda original oil

    Clutch operation oil
    Keep it topped up and change only if you it shows signs of trouble

    Parts change:-

    Brake pads change:-
    recommended @ 30,000kms
    Can use any good quality pads. (labour 400rs for 4 wheels plus pads, from 500rs to 2500rs)

    Fuel filter change @ 40,000kms (IF driven on petrol)

    Air filter change @ 10,000kms Original Honda filter is best.Good quality guard filter is good too.
    980rs for OEM, 350rs for Guard filter.

    Spark plugs @ 20,000kms Original Honda plugs (8 plugs for idsi. 4 for steermatic, new city ivtec and before-2003 model City)

    Timing belt. Not required. From 2003 onwards, all honda Citys have timing chains instead of belts.They usually last a life time.

    Tune-ups :-

    Throttle body service @ 20,000kms Cost around 500rs
    Tappets adjustment / valve clearence @ 20,000kms Cost around 500rs

    Brake adjustment front not required after pads change. rear @ 30,000kms (or when front pads changed)

    Expected Life of Some parts:-

    Brake pads 35,000kms if driven aggressively ( cost already mentioned)
    Clutch plate 110,000kms if driven aggressively ( around 2000rs labour and 6000rs for clutch+pressure plate)
    Clutch bearing 150,000kms (So change with clutch plate) (800rs)
    Tuneups can be delayed to 30,000kms IF the car is run in clean enviornment like in Islamabad etc (less dust)
    Engine oil change can be delays to 5,000kms but not good in long run.

    Service Manual Honda City ids-i 2003-2008:-
    http://www.putlocker.com/file/CED54F8B8FB00360

    Tip for keeping automatic transmission (Vario and steermatic) healthy on CNG:-
    Change engine oil at 3,000kms MAX.
    Tranny oil at 30,000kms
    Tune up (throttle and valve clearence) at 20,000kms
    Do NOT ignore idleing problems. Rough idleing means jerks to transmission and thats what kills it on CNG.
    Keep air filter clean and change at 10,000kms max.

    Instrument cluster cleaning DIY
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/d-i...ening-cleaning
    Console box opening and spray painting DIY
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/d-i...-respray-diy-1
    A/c service, the easy way
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/air...ck-c-service-1
    Honda City GTG at kallar kahar
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/get...g-kallar-kahar
    2nd Honda City GTG at kallar kahar
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/get...ar-23-dec-12-a

    Thats all for now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Imaan1 View Post
    Mujhe to waisehi gari ka zyada interest hai iseliye sara kaam mein khud hi karwata hoon bare bhaiyoon ko itna shawq nahi hai. It might be shocking but I am only 14 years old will be 15 this November
    AOA
    chotay bhai the minimum age for driving in pakistan is 18 years. So be very very careful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coolsmart View Post
    AOA
    chotay bhai the minimum age for driving in pakistan is 18 years. So be very very careful.
    I do not drive on roads i am fully aware of the fact that we can only drive if we are 18.Mein safai ki baat kar raha tha

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    Finally got the delivery of my Honda City MT 2011. I am visiting this thread for a long time. Now I am officially in the club

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    Quote Originally Posted by speedster_101 View Post
    Finally got the delivery of my Honda City MT 2011. I am visiting this thread for a long time. Now I am officially in the club

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    Quote Originally Posted by coolsmart View Post
    AOA
    chotay bhai the minimum age for driving in pakistan is 18 years. So be very very careful.
    Sir with due respect, I 100% agree with you on this.....leking yahan kaunsa riwaj hai to obey rules an law? I mean I`m guilty as well, I`m 31 now, an I`ve been driving since class 5..........I`ve done my fair share of globe trotting and quite frankly the countires where I`ve been......laws are laws mate, no bar......Pakistan is well...........princely country.....jo dil mai hai karo......imagine my horror when driving down a CLEARLY MARKED ONE WAY there was this truck coming without lights from the other side.......I remember in Saudia Arabia we were shifting our house an we had this ladder, wouldnt come inside the van so the driver (Pakistani) just tied it to the roof top, he had not turned two corners and was stopped by police for it.....they asked for him to put a light at the ends of the ladder, keep his hazards on, an tie the emergency glowing triangle to the end so people didnt hurt themselves........aur idher??? Tyre jahan puncture hua, wahan pathar rakh kar beth jao...jaisay abbu nay 7th salgirah par sarak apnay us pyaray bachay kay naam kar di thi, keh yeh lo beta, yeh sarak menay aap kay liay khareedi hai, jo marzi aye karo is par.......kabhi kabar dil to bara karta hai keh insan ki tarah behave karoun, par aik din, do din, teen din, hafta logon ki harkatain bardasht kar kar kay tang aa kar waisa ban na hi parta hai......as they say my man"WHEN IN ROME, DO AS THE ROMANS!"
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    Salamz to all members,

    Indus launched their official Corolla XLI & GLI ( WITH CNG ) model.

    Prices are : XLI 1,519,000 & GLI 1,649,000.

    Hope factory fitted Corolla CNG ride would be a good experience.

    For HONDA lovers, new CIVIC launch is postponed & will now be launched in Pakistan by JANUARY 2012.

    Hope everything be good at members end.

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    With No offense & May GOD never it happen to u i pray, but Next time if ur car is hit 4m bak and
    u find an under age person, say to him "Pakistan mein sub chalta hay".

    Hum log khud he kharab hay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coolsmart View Post
    With No offense & May GOD never it happen to u i pray, but Next time if ur car is hit 4m bak and
    u find an under age person, say to him "Pakistan mein sub chalta hay".

    Hum log khud he kharab hay.
    Hahahahaha, Sir! Ghussa na karain, mai to khud keh raha hoon I`m guilty as well.....I`m strict on this with my son.....lekin log sudhartay nahin..kiya karain! Theek ho kar chalna bhooth mushkil ho jata hai at times, my blood boils when I get into traffic, if you behave polietly and give way they just smother you like it`s their inherited right......e.g in roundabouts the first right of way is of traffic present in the round, but for some God forsaken reason everyone must barge in an cut into the present traffic, go into the most inner lane, then with angles that defy matehmatics exit on the very next road,no wonder road rage is so common here! I continously teach him look this is wrong, papa is doing this because of this, with him I try harder not to loose my cool an go into lunatic mode. This is for us elder people to understand...we allow this to happen an so it does....I`ve promised my son a car only after his license...he can have his dirivng lessons, get his learners but nothing till he gets a proper authentic license...I`m doing my part...... I try to recommend to my cousins to apply to their children as well, but their logics defy me on why they let their kids out in cars before properly educating them about roads....mujay to laad pyar mai gari mil gaye...lekin jahan mai control kar sakta hoon I will, InshAllah.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coolsmart View Post
    AOA
    chotay bhai the minimum age for driving in pakistan is 18 years. So be very very careful.
    And I know that we have to abide by the rules agar mein ghalti se bhi road par koi ghaltio kar doon tou its obvious that I'll be in trouble iseliye mein jab tak 18 nahi ho jaon ga road par nahi nikloon ga although i know how to drive ( learned cause my society Gulshan-e-Lahore had empty roads so learned how to drive myself cause i observed my elder brothers when they were being taught) phir bhi mein road par kabhi nahi gaya kyounke mujhe pata hai ke mein chota hoon. Jahan tak kaam karwane ki baat hai woh mein driver ke saath ja kar karwata hoon.

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    Waisay i personally think those who drives from early age are good drivers. Roundabout mein aksar paray likay mulko mein be accident ho jatay hay. There was a very busy roundabout in UK which has seven exits and happens to be near my workplace (Shell petrol staion). And sometime you would see some insane behaviour and small accidents. You would believe that i never get any lesson for driving. I used to only forward/reverse my father sarkri hiace with just clutch bcz i didnt know wt would happen if i press accelerator (then one day i did it) when i was in 9th or 10th class. One of my friend who was naive in driving at that time got the "juska" of accelator and does nt know abt gears. He drove the car with full accelator on same gear and at U turn he could steer properly and bang into middle of light pole in U turn. His two right side tire had two big holes in it due to excessive rupture with footpath and front u guess it.

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    Ok hm.
    I have a question based on wt happeded to me yesterday.

    What happen if ur radiator fan fuse is blown or loose i.e when will u come to know radiator fan is not working.

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    Default OWN price jumped to 125000.00

    Today I contacted Honda Shah Ra Faisal and inquired for Black AT City.
    They said yes and gave two options:
    1. Immediate delivery will cost a premium of PKR 125,000.00 as opposed to 25,000.00 for MT.

    2. Bookings are welcome with aprox 3 months delivery as opposed to 15 days for MT.

    And then I came back thinking what to do???

    Any Suggestions...........

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    @ naeem

    you can check lahore as i think AT sells less in lhr,,, thank God i bought mine in April got it in just a week,,,,
    and Yes! its Black........
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    Things like this will be under my judgement please ....engine an paint........I just love playing with them...........did a little session on my car, here`s the engine an paint afterwardsHonda City Fan Club -277477

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    Quote Originally Posted by vague_one View Post
    Sir with due respect, I 100% agree with you on this.....leking yahan kaunsa riwaj hai to obey rules an law? I mean I`m guilty as well, I`m 31 now, an I`ve been driving since class 5..........I`ve done my fair share of globe trotting and quite frankly the countires where I`ve been......laws are laws mate, no bar......Pakistan is well...........princely country.....jo dil mai hai karo......imagine my horror when driving down a CLEARLY MARKED ONE WAY there was this truck coming without lights from the other side.......I remember in Saudia Arabia we were shifting our house an we had this ladder, wouldnt come inside the van so the driver (Pakistani) just tied it to the roof top, he had not turned two corners and was stopped by police for it.....they asked for him to put a light at the ends of the ladder, keep his hazards on, an tie the emergency glowing triangle to the end so people didnt hurt themselves........aur idher??? Tyre jahan puncture hua, wahan pathar rakh kar beth jao...jaisay abbu nay 7th salgirah par sarak apnay us pyaray bachay kay naam kar di thi, keh yeh lo beta, yeh sarak menay aap kay liay khareedi hai, jo marzi aye karo is par.......kabhi kabar dil to bara karta hai keh insan ki tarah behave karoun, par aik din, do din, teen din, hafta logon ki harkatain bardasht kar kar kay tang aa kar waisa ban na hi parta hai......as they say my man"WHEN IN ROME, DO AS THE ROMANS!"
    kya baat ki aap ne. bilkul 100% right. it happens with me too. i leave my house thinking today i will drive like a civilized man, i will not do road rage. lekin shaam tak ghar aate aate main bhi un jhaloon ki tarha ban jaata hoon. always some rash driver spoils my day. mostly bikers and rikshaw drivers do not follow any rule. ek dum turn karte hain, aur agar lag jai to ghareeb ghareeb ka bahana karte hain. bhai agar ghareeb ho to over speeding aur pagaloon ki tarha kyun chalate ho? dosray mulk ke gareeb to esay nahi drive karte?!!
    bohut afsoos hai mujhe keh i cannot drive like a calm person but what can i do the road conditions bring out the the worst in me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vague_one View Post
    Bhooth bhooth Mubarak ho bhai, May Allah give you safe journeys in your ride....please do give sadqa before hand......an welcome to the club, Ahmed bhai aaj kal parhai aur tafreehi doray par Islamabad wich ghum phir rahay hain, warna waqt aur moka paa kar aap ko khud haar pehnanay atay....filhal meri mubarak say guzara karain.....keep shining brother!
    Thanks for your well wishes brother.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vague_one View Post
    Things like this will be under my judgement please ....engine an paint........I just love playing with them...........did a little session on my car, here`s the engine an paint afterwardsHonda City Fan Club - 277477

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    awesome.... would love to get some tips from you??
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    I am really disappointed to find out that My new Honda City doesn't even have a clock. Even my 11 year old Suzuki Khyber has a clock. Was it available in City iDSI?
    Is it available in new Corolla?
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    Quote Originally Posted by speedster_101 View Post
    I am really disappointed to find out that My new Honda City doesn't even have a clock. Even my 11 year old Suzuki Khyber has a clock. Was it available in City iDSI?
    Is it available in new Corolla?

    I have both the VTEC CITY an the IDSI CITY, both are without oem clocks,you can only use the stereo`s diplay for the clock, nothing else....warna MEHRAN wala sashka to hai hi......
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    Quote Originally Posted by faez View Post
    awesome.... would love to get some tips from you??

    Fire away bro......will love to guide on things I do know.....!
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