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    Default Honda City Fan Club

    (Maintainence schedule added at the end)

    Hi guys..!!! I thought we should have a Fan club for honda city.Theres already a fourm for City but thats dedicated to city steermatic only.in this club,we shall hav steermatic,idsi,cvt nd all models of city and all their variants. Well the history of this car is somewhat like this...


    First generation (1997-2000) On january 22nd 1997,the first Honda City was launched as a sedan.The city was always made for families and not for racing or sports.Thats why they were always equiped with the latest or sometimes firsts in the market.The interior was always very comforting and the seating position is also very comfortable.It had the options of power windows,and side view mirrors for the top model though they were not there in the base model.Power steeing,front seatbelts,digital clock,AC was available in the basic model too.One the outside,it was very elegantly designed.Beautiful,handsome and decent.Under the hood,it had a 1300cc 16valve SOHC engine ,and was the first car to have 16-valve in 1300cc category.


    Second generation (2000-2003) On January 20th 2000, Honda replaced the original City of 1997 with an update.This model of city had the basic shape of its predecessor.but with new crystal head lamps at the front,power side view mirrors and a chrome lining around the rear numberplate garnish.It was the first car in pakistan to have rear crystal headlights.It had two varients. Exi and Exi-s.The Exi had manual windows and side view mirrors,body colored licence plate garnish(not chromed), semi-fabric seat covers, 165/13 tyres,black door mirrors and no high mount stop lamp.But the Exi-s had all these things in it.The outside looked more gracefull with crystal lights and some new lines on the exterior.The engine in both of them were same.But this one had Programed fuel injection(PGM-Fi).There was optional 4-speed automatic transmission available. The engine engine's maximum horse power=90/6400 and maximum torque =11.5/4700 This model was produced until 2003


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    Third generation (2003-2005) On 23rd August 2003, the third-generation Honda City was launched which had a totally new shape.It was a very stylish and aerodynamic shape introduced in pakistan for the first time.It also was the first car to introduce i-dsi (intelligence-dual and sequential ignation) and CVT (continuously variable transmission) in Pakistan.It had an engine which is higly fuel economic and was build specially for better fuel economy.This car was equipped with power windows(pinch free) , power side view mirrors, tilt adjustable steering column and yet another first,the EPS or electriconic power steering.it made the steering very very soft to turn and also it had no oil used in it so it had no maintanence required.Other featrure of this car is that its the first Euro 3 comliant car in pakistan,that means that its very low on harmful emmisions.The EURO 3 emission standard are applicable in Europe from the year 2000, they are considered to be amongst the most strict standards worldwide. The standard limits emissions to 2.1 g/kWh CO, 0.66 g/kWh HC, 5.0 g/kWh NOx, 0.1 g/kWh particles. Another striking feature is, the boot space(400ltrs).it was bigger then any local car availabe at that time.This car was basically meant for families.it had two glove compartments,a big boot,empty space under the rear seats, four glass holders,and also, a smal space provided in the two front doors.And guess what? All of these options were available in the basic version.This city was divided on just the basis of the drive-train.One was manual,and other was automatic. On the outside,this car was designed very sophisticatedly,it looked smaller than other cars in size from outside but is alot more spacious inside.the body design was an immediate hit among fans and poeple who knew somthing about this type of things.Even the side view mirrors are designed to cut through air.


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    Fourth generation (2005-present) In september 2005,the fourth generation City was released.It was basically a face-lifted version on the previous model.it is known as the City ZX in Thailand, India, the New City in Malaysia and City in Pakistan.The most significant changes are a new exterior (new front grille, new headlamps, new fog lights, newtaillights and bumpers). The front end has been extended forward by 65 mm (2.6 in) while the rear has been extended by 15 mm (0.6 in). The VTEC trim have 15 inch alloy wheels as standard equipment. Interior changes are minor but it does include an armrest for the driver.The rest remains almost same as in the previous model. The engine remains the same but the intake manifold has been modified, resulting a 10% temperature drop in the intake air temperature (IAT), the suspension has been upgraded as well. Honda City in Pakistan are using CVT gearbox for both i-DSI and VTEC variants. The CVT-VTEC 1.5L gearbox is equipped with a Simulated 7-Speed Automated Manual Transmission (AMT) using paddle shift buttons. This is very rare for a subcompact of its class.This VTEC variant was called City-steermatic.

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    Steermatic:- The steermatic is basicaly a name of a technology used in the city VTEC 1.5L model.this model had a different engine than the idsi.it had a 1.5L engine with an auto transmission.this was not any other auto transmission.its is steermatic,means that you can change gears just by push of a button on the steering wheel.this is basically used in F1 racing.It has 2 options,either you drive on fully automated CVT option,or you select a virtual manual transmission.For this,you would change the gears when you want with a push of a button.This model also have an opitiron meter and also stock imported 15" alloy rims with bridgestone Potenza tyres. This technology is very sophisticated and advanced,which,sadly was'nt accepted by the buyers in Pakistan because they simply could not understand it and hence,this particular model of city was discontined.


    I-dsi:- I-dsi stands for Intelligence-dual and sequential ignation.In this type of engine,two spark plugs are employed for each cylinder.That makes 8 spark plugs instead of 4 plugs used by most cars.Adding of an additional plug assures complete burning and utilizing the last drop of fuel thrown into the cylinders which would provide you the best performace and better fuel consumption.Not all the times the 8 plugs are working,but when u push your car through high revs or speeds,all of them work simeltaneously and thats when ypu can feel the difference.But theres one drawback in it,this engine is equiped with 8 valves not 16.Hence it decreased the performance and city seems to be out of breath after 5000RPMs,but as this is basically a family car,performance is not the priority.The best thing about this was the fuel economy,about which,you can read the paragraph below.

    Fifth generation (2009 onwards) On 31th january 2009,the fifth generation of the honda City was launched in Pakistan.Which was an immediate hit among the fans.The previous Honda City was criticised due to its shape,but this time the best thing was the shape,which is even more aerodynamic then the previous one and also resembles the big Honda brothers,Civic and Accord.The best thing about the exterior of this City is the front view of the car.The wide,sleek and elegently designed radiator grill gives a refreashing look to the car.The dimesions of the car are almost similar to those of the older model.The sharp lines on the hood gives the city some attitude on the road.The boot space is increased about 25%,from 400ltrs to 506ltrs.But the good news doesnt end there,under the hood,There is a fairly powerful 1.3L SOHC VTEC engine.which produces a healthy 100bhp,enough for a 1.3L car.But dont think that you would have to lose something on the fuel economy side to get this sort of power.The fuel economy is actually improved.Some indian car expert magzines gave the figures of 22km/ltr for the auto transmission,which is the best in its class.The emission standards are improved as well.Previous city was Euro 3 compliant,but the new city is Euro 4 compliant.which means that your car is enviornment friendly.The only thing which you need to be concered about is the interior,which feels abit cramped campared to the previous City,but there is a reason to it.In the pervious city.the hood and the trunk had only a small portion of the exterior length covered,and the cabin was much bigger,which gave nice interior space,but from outside,the car looked ugly to some eyes.To correct this ugliness,the car was redesigned with increased hood and trunk length from outside,this made it look much better but the drawback was the lesser interior space.The second thing was the missing silver portions on the interior bits and panels of the Pakistani City.The interior would have felt lively only if some spots of it would have been in silver color.But you have alot other advantages,like 15" rims,ABS as standard,vtec engine,details of fuel milage on a special screen in the speedometer,huge boot and many other small things. In a nutshel,the new Honda City is much more refined comparitively to the previous one.The basic things which matter alot have been improved like the engine and the exterior design.The ride of the car is also improved,thanks to the small changes in the suspension.All in all,its still a great package if you see it the value-for-money way in Pakistani market atleast.


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    Fuel Consumption:- The 2005 face-lifted Honda City i-DSI achieved an impressive 26.2km per liter of fuel consumption during a challenge in June 2007. The challenge requires the vehicle to be occupied by 4 persons (including the driver), air conditioning being switched on and a load of luggage. The whole route stretched more than 660km that consists of not only highway driving but also hill climbing. ==================================== Source:-My self mostly,wikipedia and Honda atlas.


    In Short:- In short,according to me,all this proves that Honda City has been a great car for a family to have at all times for more than a decade now.It has proven its self to be a complete car one would need at a price tag it is available for.An im one of the thousands of satisfied owners of it for the past one year. Now all we need are your comments and thoughts upon this small wonder.And also do make sure you post some pix of your own city if you have,of any model.Please feel free to express your feelings about this car.

    Maintainence schedule:-

    There have been a lot of queries regarding the maintainence shedule of Honda City. To help find members and guests find this information easily and quickly, i am writing the complete maintainence shedule which i have been following for the past 5 years for my car (180,000kms).Cost of completing the job may/may not be stated. Some of it may not be the same as that in maintainence book provided by Honda people. In that case, i ll state the reason of the difference.Here goes.

    Oils:-
    Havoline formula 10W30 (3.7ltr) and oil filter change @ 3000kms. Cost 1900rs

    Transmission oil (Manual transmission) 2 ltr @ 40,000kms.
    Honda original oil 1980rs (2ltr)
    Good quality Zic/ micking oil 800rs (2ltr)

    Transmission oil ( Automatic transmission) 2lre @ 35,000kms
    Honda CVT oil ONLY (3.2-3.4L.) 1980rs

    Brake oil
    Keep it topped up and change only if padel feels very soft n goes wayy down.
    Honda original oil

    Clutch operation oil
    Keep it topped up and change only if you it shows signs of trouble

    Parts change:-

    Brake pads change:-
    recommended @ 30,000kms
    Can use any good quality pads. (labour 400rs for 4 wheels plus pads, from 500rs to 2500rs)

    Fuel filter change @ 40,000kms (IF driven on petrol)

    Air filter change @ 10,000kms Original Honda filter is best.Good quality guard filter is good too.
    980rs for OEM, 350rs for Guard filter.

    Spark plugs @ 20,000kms Original Honda plugs (8 plugs for idsi. 4 for steermatic, new city ivtec and before-2003 model City)

    Timing belt. Not required. From 2003 onwards, all honda Citys have timing chains instead of belts.They usually last a life time.

    Tune-ups :-

    Throttle body service @ 20,000kms Cost around 500rs
    Tappets adjustment / valve clearence @ 20,000kms Cost around 500rs

    Brake adjustment front not required after pads change. rear @ 30,000kms (or when front pads changed)

    Expected Life of Some parts:-

    Brake pads 35,000kms if driven aggressively ( cost already mentioned)
    Clutch plate 110,000kms if driven aggressively ( around 2000rs labour and 6000rs for clutch+pressure plate)
    Clutch bearing 150,000kms (So change with clutch plate) (800rs)
    Tuneups can be delayed to 30,000kms IF the car is run in clean enviornment like in Islamabad etc (less dust)
    Engine oil change can be delays to 5,000kms but not good in long run.

    Service Manual Honda City ids-i 2003-2008:-
    http://www.putlocker.com/file/CED54F8B8FB00360

    Tip for keeping automatic transmission (Vario and steermatic) healthy on CNG:-
    Change engine oil at 3,000kms MAX.
    Tranny oil at 30,000kms
    Tune up (throttle and valve clearence) at 20,000kms
    Do NOT ignore idleing problems. Rough idleing means jerks to transmission and thats what kills it on CNG.
    Keep air filter clean and change at 10,000kms max.

    Instrument cluster cleaning DIY
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/d-i...ening-cleaning
    Console box opening and spray painting DIY
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/d-i...-respray-diy-1
    A/c service, the easy way
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/air...ck-c-service-1
    Honda City GTG at kallar kahar
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/get...g-kallar-kahar
    2nd Honda City GTG at kallar kahar
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/get...ar-23-dec-12-a

    Thats all for now.
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    I've heard that if you install cng in city 07 idsi it starts to show check engine light even if there is no problem at all
    It doesnt
    i ve a lot of experience with cng in idsi.it wont show check engine light unless the air filter is choked or the engine needs tuning or something is wrong.

    Your car is looking very nice mashallah, u ve done a lot on it since u bought it and its not in excellent condition.engine is very clean.though im sure u re missing that IDSI sticker actually it comes off after a while and so far i ve glued it back 3 times on my car!

    After a long time I am posting something. Its about the trip I made on my honda city a few days ago. It was a trip to karachi yes I left on 15th and returned on 27th. The car really lived upto its reputation created by the thread. Well its my first honda and I am really impressed by them. The car was really economical we were six people 5 elders and one 11 year old and a trunk full approximately 100kgs of lugguage we also had lugguage inside the cabin the underside of backseat and my dad had a bag near his feat in the front passenger seat. One can easily imagine the load on the car but still it gave me 2.5Rs/km with AC at 3 and the rpm was ranging 3-3.5k rpm. When going to karachi from sukkur the car was pushed to its limits and at rpm 4-4.5 rpm it still gave 2.75Rs/km although we were only 2 people but lugguage was same. First day we travelled till sukkur it took us 900 kms because of wrong route in multan. We began journey at 4:40 in morning and reached sukkur by 90 pm. In all those 16 hours the car was only stopped for an hour and thats the total of all stops at CNG stations+lunch and after 16 hrs of driving car was like it can go another 900 without trouble. In sukkur we stopped for an hour and then left for some relatives home for dinner and car was fresh like it behaves in morning
    Thats what the idsi is good at comfort and fuel economy.i ve driven it for long hrs countless times without any problem at all.last one was sargodha to bahawalpur and then to multan.totalling around 10hrs travelling time apart from the stops.it went excellent and even in the super hot weather of bahawalpur, the A/c did very well on position 3.
    In short, this car is THE PERFECT compact family sedan for Pakistan!
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    The next day I had to stay for some work so family left for karachi in another car and I began afternoon I had a driver with me so we drove 50-50. When the driver was driving on superhighway towards karachi he decided to test the vehicle because he was driving idsi for the first time I noted that he tool the car to 105 in 3rd gear at 5200 rpm and that too on CNG with AC on and in 4th gear took the car to 130+ so I think it could have gone 150+ if he had tried. In my opinion thats not bad considering the economy idsi gives you. I would like to tell you that after drivers stretching of the vehicle to its limits its pick had significantly increased on same CNG settings I think its exhausts have cleared
    According to the owner's manual, an idsi can do 167km/h in 4th gear (theoratically) but that is not a real measure of the power/acceleration/life of an engine as these figures depend on the gear ratios, with a different transmission, the same car might not do more then 130km/h in 4th so n so... but still,the engine is reasonably powerful.

    Thanks! Didn't do detailed cleaning just washed it with shampoo and applied it with a cloth which had a bit of wax.(Don't have turtle car care products as I cant visit Montgomery because my driver does not know the way ) I know there are some places which are not well of and regarding the Idsi sticker it wasn't there when I bought it . My city does show the check light and the mechanic tells me that it is there because of the oxygen sensor that does relate with what you said. BTW what is pre soak ?
    Kindly elaborate the Check engine light thingy of ur car, does it stays ON all the time whenever u drive the car or it shows up after a few minutes or wat?

    From past 3 days my idsi is missing a little bit, both on cng and on petrol.
    It sometimes give a kick suddenly at minimum of abt travelling 7km and sometime not at all. I had tuned up the car + throttle + sprk plg cleaning abt 2.5 month ago.
    Wt should i do.
    Check the air intake box and air filter of ur car.is the air filter torn or the air intake box cracked/broken from somewhere? if so, your car's ignition coils are dead.the 4 coils on back.missing on petrol, single jerks etc are symptoms of ignition coil issues.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vague_one View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmadbila View Post
    It doesnt
    i ve a lot of experience with cng in idsi.it wont show check engine light unless the air filter is choked or the engine needs tuning or something is wrong.

    Your car is looking very nice mashallah, u ve done a lot on it since u bought it and its not in excellent condition.engine is very clean.though im sure u re missing that IDSI sticker actually it comes off after a while and so far i ve glued it back 3 times on my car!

    Thanks for the compliment and did you spot something wrong on the car ? just asking cause you said its not in excellent condition . Were you talking about the body. If you think i've got the lights because they weren't working thats wrong cause I didn't like the yellow ones and I replaced them so far I haven't spent anything on the performance it is working absolutely fine just spent money on lights and etc

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    Quote Originally Posted by Imaan1 View Post
    Thanks for the compliment and did you spot something wrong on the car ? just asking cause you said its not in excellent condition . Were you talking about the body. If you think i've got the lights because they weren't working thats wrong cause I didn't like the yellow ones and I replaced them so far I haven't spent anything on the performance it is working absolutely fine just spent money on lights and etc
    The front bumper was a bit scratched when u first posted the pix and it wasnt fitted well i guess.but now its as good as new.n u told me back then u wanted to get it repainted,did u get it repainted?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmadbila View Post



    Kindly elaborate the Check engine light thingy of ur car, does it stays ON all the time whenever u drive the car or it shows up after a few minutes or wat?

    It does not appear on petrol at all and only appears some times on cng like apni marzi sai however I haven't had a single problem with the car and when the mechanic attaches a machine in the car he says that the oxygen senson needs to be changed in order to turn it off he said it will come back after six months or so. I haven't had a single problem it running absolutely fine and the mechanic also cut down the advancer emulator think that causes the check engine to emerge

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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmadbila View Post
    The front bumper was a bit scratched when u first posted the pix and it wasnt fitted well i guess.but now its as good as new.n u told me back then u wanted to get it repainted,did u get it repainted?
    No i didn't it has a few scratches on the under side fitting was okay though i had it checked

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    @imaan
    ahan? dont know why but its looking much better now actually those pix were taken from such angles that the bumpers were focused more then rest of the body.may be thats why!

    @all
    right now, im scanning all the pages of this thread as i want to make an index of whats on what page.e.g. engine tuning pix of XYZ page , clutch page change pix on ABC page etc etc.will also give a refreshed look to the main thread along with the addition of index.
    any suggestions are more then welcomed
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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmadbila View Post
    Mashallah very veryyy nicely kept city bro.... unlike mine, yours; body condition is also perfect mine is excellent when it comes to engine etc but needs some body work! Keep it up!
    Thank you bro.. Actually the driver side, bonnet and both bumper's are repainted ... It has never been involved in a major accident, but the ragarhs and scratches made me do this... But the car still drives and feel's like it did six years ago...
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    Quote Originally Posted by sardarsaeed View Post
    Thank you bro.. Actually the driver side, bonnet and both bumper's are repainted ... It has never been involved in a major accident, but the ragarhs and scratches made me do this... But the car still drives and feel's like it did six years ago...
    Bro repaints dont compromise the drive quality of a car so its OKAY to have a car with a lot of repaints but excellent engine and suspension.plus, no one hits their car willingly, **** just happens so its inevitable.but if the drive is as good as new, u sure deserve the credit for that

    btw, same is the case with my car.many panels painted but mechanically its perfect!
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    Yer welcome bro......hum haina...khadim -e- thread....
    Do you have idsi owners manual with you, I just wanted to have a look at it

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    Quote Originally Posted by a_n_memon88 View Post
    Do you have idsi owners manual with you, I just wanted to have a look at it
    Sir hum jaisay gari kay keroun kay pass har aik cheez hoti hai, i even have the log book that came with the car from the factory.....pm me whenever you want to have a look an I`ll guide you! JazakAllah
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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmadbila View Post

    @all
    right now, im scanning all the pages of this thread as i want to make an index of whats on what page.e.g. engine tuning pix of XYZ page , clutch page change pix on ABC page etc etc.will also give a refreshed look to the main thread along with the addition of index.
    any suggestions are more then welcomed
    couldnt resist answering this one, plz dont make it like that laadli thread putting up a lammmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmbi index on main page, rather put up short indexes evey 30 pages or so, this way page numbers wont mess up when you add them in index, in one big index on main page when list grows it moves posts to new pages and it screws things up. whatever you do be sane with it
    in couple of days i will give you scan of maintenance schedule for second gen to put up, plz arrange for other generations aswell

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    Quote Originally Posted by vague_one View Post
    Sir hum jaisay gari kay keroun kay pass har aik cheez hoti hai, i even have the log book that came with the car from the factory.....pm me whenever you want to have a look an I`ll guide you! JazakAllah
    lolzz @ keera
    some relative of ur keera also resides in me
    i ve got complete service history of my car from honda upto 1 lakh kms,the log book, owner manual and even the small black plastic cover sort of thing which use to be where the CNG switch is now
    and oh, also have the box in which the "face" of cassette player came

    sab chor do yaaaar...i still have the broucher of my 01 honda city which dad got from honda showroom in late 2000.now thats around 11 yrs old
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    Quote Originally Posted by mahmood View Post
    couldnt resist answering this one, plz dont make it like that laadli thread putting up a lammmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmbi index on main page, rather put up short indexes evey 30 pages or so, this way page numbers wont mess up when you add them in index, in one big index on main page when list grows it moves posts to new pages and it screws things up. whatever you do be sane with it
    in couple of days i will give you scan of maintenance schedule for second gen to put up, plz arrange for other generations aswell

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    point noted sir! i had those threads in mind, their main posts all messed up.im still collecting the data on pages,n im ignoring the pages with nothing important.i ll try to make it as brief as possible as the main post is already very long.
    kindly explain how u want me to put it, i didnt quite get how u want me to?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmadbila View Post
    lolzz @ keera
    some relative of ur keera also resides in me
    i ve got complete service history of my car from honda upto 1 lakh kms,the log book, owner manual and even the small black plastic cover sort of thing which use to be where the CNG switch is now
    and oh, also have the box in which the "face" of cassette player came

    sab chor do yaaaar...i still have the broucher of my 01 honda city which dad got from honda showroom in late 2000.now thats around 11 yrs old
    same thing.......i got the off white box for the place where the fog light switch is, I also have the kenwood face protector..........even have the ribbon like badge that was on the doors side Khair yar thread intro koi kamal si karna, if you need help in the writing dept an think i`k kabil of it tay akh mar dayen ustad.....khadim hazir hai....................
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    Quote Originally Posted by mahmood View Post
    couldnt resist answering this one, plz dont make it like that laadli thread putting up a lammmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmbi index on main page, rather put up short indexes evey 30 pages or so, this way page numbers wont mess up when you add them in index, in one big index on main page when list grows it moves posts to new pages and it screws things up. whatever you do be sane with it
    in couple of days i will give you scan of maintenance schedule for second gen to put up, plz arrange for other generations aswell

    Regards,
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    Got your point now u mean if i increase/decrease the size of original post, all the page numbers would change with regard to the posts n the index would be of no use! okay! may be i ll edit any of my post in the past pages after every 30 pages and put an index there.that way we ll have a total of 4 indexes.n then i can put in the main thread that index numbers r on page number 30,60,90 etc. so that the main post stays as long as it is now and also serves the purpose.
    right? thats what u meant?
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    @ahmedbilal
    intro of each generation is fine but do get some pics with less of ala bala and of same size for each generation, n add maintenence schedule of each generation with it before moving to intro of next generation. give links of the source of info for each generation put up if possible.
    now to the index, put up index for thirty pages as example with hyper link to each item, like when i click change of brake shoes, it takes me to change of brake shoes and at the end of list add a link jump to next index and you will be jumped to page 31 where you find next index for next thirty pages and it continues.
    and there is no need to make a rickshaw out of this this thread like .......... you know what i mean, this is a honda page so it doent need to be garnished with chrome its beauty lies in soberness , just bold the headings.

    i thinks thats pretty much it, baqi ka saath saath mein sahi

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    Quote Originally Posted by vague_one View Post
    same thing.......i got the off white box for the place where the fog light switch is, I also have the kenwood face protector..........even have the ribbon like badge that was on the doors side Khair yar thread intro koi kamal si karna, if you need help in the writing dept an think i`k kabil of it tay akh mar dayen ustad.....khadim hazir hai....................
    yours came with ribbon badge? :O mine didnt! only 2001 did! anyways...

    sir for sure ... if u are willing to help, i would like to be helped and also tell me kaisa hona chahiay intro? thread kholnay par ik video chalni chahiay i guess katrina kaif k dance ki
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