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    Default Honda City Fan Club

    (Maintainence schedule added at the end)

    Hi guys..!!! I thought we should have a Fan club for honda city.Theres already a fourm for City but thats dedicated to city steermatic only.in this club,we shall hav steermatic,idsi,cvt nd all models of city and all their variants. Well the history of this car is somewhat like this...


    First generation (1997-2000) On january 22nd 1997,the first Honda City was launched as a sedan.The city was always made for families and not for racing or sports.Thats why they were always equiped with the latest or sometimes firsts in the market.The interior was always very comforting and the seating position is also very comfortable.It had the options of power windows,and side view mirrors for the top model though they were not there in the base model.Power steeing,front seatbelts,digital clock,AC was available in the basic model too.One the outside,it was very elegantly designed.Beautiful,handsome and decent.Under the hood,it had a 1300cc 16valve SOHC engine ,and was the first car to have 16-valve in 1300cc category.


    Second generation (2000-2003) On January 20th 2000, Honda replaced the original City of 1997 with an update.This model of city had the basic shape of its predecessor.but with new crystal head lamps at the front,power side view mirrors and a chrome lining around the rear numberplate garnish.It was the first car in pakistan to have rear crystal headlights.It had two varients. Exi and Exi-s.The Exi had manual windows and side view mirrors,body colored licence plate garnish(not chromed), semi-fabric seat covers, 165/13 tyres,black door mirrors and no high mount stop lamp.But the Exi-s had all these things in it.The outside looked more gracefull with crystal lights and some new lines on the exterior.The engine in both of them were same.But this one had Programed fuel injection(PGM-Fi).There was optional 4-speed automatic transmission available. The engine engine's maximum horse power=90/6400 and maximum torque =11.5/4700 This model was produced until 2003


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    Third generation (2003-2005) On 23rd August 2003, the third-generation Honda City was launched which had a totally new shape.It was a very stylish and aerodynamic shape introduced in pakistan for the first time.It also was the first car to introduce i-dsi (intelligence-dual and sequential ignation) and CVT (continuously variable transmission) in Pakistan.It had an engine which is higly fuel economic and was build specially for better fuel economy.This car was equipped with power windows(pinch free) , power side view mirrors, tilt adjustable steering column and yet another first,the EPS or electriconic power steering.it made the steering very very soft to turn and also it had no oil used in it so it had no maintanence required.Other featrure of this car is that its the first Euro 3 comliant car in pakistan,that means that its very low on harmful emmisions.The EURO 3 emission standard are applicable in Europe from the year 2000, they are considered to be amongst the most strict standards worldwide. The standard limits emissions to 2.1 g/kWh CO, 0.66 g/kWh HC, 5.0 g/kWh NOx, 0.1 g/kWh particles. Another striking feature is, the boot space(400ltrs).it was bigger then any local car availabe at that time.This car was basically meant for families.it had two glove compartments,a big boot,empty space under the rear seats, four glass holders,and also, a smal space provided in the two front doors.And guess what? All of these options were available in the basic version.This city was divided on just the basis of the drive-train.One was manual,and other was automatic. On the outside,this car was designed very sophisticatedly,it looked smaller than other cars in size from outside but is alot more spacious inside.the body design was an immediate hit among fans and poeple who knew somthing about this type of things.Even the side view mirrors are designed to cut through air.


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    Fourth generation (2005-present) In september 2005,the fourth generation City was released.It was basically a face-lifted version on the previous model.it is known as the City ZX in Thailand, India, the New City in Malaysia and City in Pakistan.The most significant changes are a new exterior (new front grille, new headlamps, new fog lights, newtaillights and bumpers). The front end has been extended forward by 65 mm (2.6 in) while the rear has been extended by 15 mm (0.6 in). The VTEC trim have 15 inch alloy wheels as standard equipment. Interior changes are minor but it does include an armrest for the driver.The rest remains almost same as in the previous model. The engine remains the same but the intake manifold has been modified, resulting a 10% temperature drop in the intake air temperature (IAT), the suspension has been upgraded as well. Honda City in Pakistan are using CVT gearbox for both i-DSI and VTEC variants. The CVT-VTEC 1.5L gearbox is equipped with a Simulated 7-Speed Automated Manual Transmission (AMT) using paddle shift buttons. This is very rare for a subcompact of its class.This VTEC variant was called City-steermatic.

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    Steermatic:- The steermatic is basicaly a name of a technology used in the city VTEC 1.5L model.this model had a different engine than the idsi.it had a 1.5L engine with an auto transmission.this was not any other auto transmission.its is steermatic,means that you can change gears just by push of a button on the steering wheel.this is basically used in F1 racing.It has 2 options,either you drive on fully automated CVT option,or you select a virtual manual transmission.For this,you would change the gears when you want with a push of a button.This model also have an opitiron meter and also stock imported 15" alloy rims with bridgestone Potenza tyres. This technology is very sophisticated and advanced,which,sadly was'nt accepted by the buyers in Pakistan because they simply could not understand it and hence,this particular model of city was discontined.


    I-dsi:- I-dsi stands for Intelligence-dual and sequential ignation.In this type of engine,two spark plugs are employed for each cylinder.That makes 8 spark plugs instead of 4 plugs used by most cars.Adding of an additional plug assures complete burning and utilizing the last drop of fuel thrown into the cylinders which would provide you the best performace and better fuel consumption.Not all the times the 8 plugs are working,but when u push your car through high revs or speeds,all of them work simeltaneously and thats when ypu can feel the difference.But theres one drawback in it,this engine is equiped with 8 valves not 16.Hence it decreased the performance and city seems to be out of breath after 5000RPMs,but as this is basically a family car,performance is not the priority.The best thing about this was the fuel economy,about which,you can read the paragraph below.

    Fifth generation (2009 onwards) On 31th january 2009,the fifth generation of the honda City was launched in Pakistan.Which was an immediate hit among the fans.The previous Honda City was criticised due to its shape,but this time the best thing was the shape,which is even more aerodynamic then the previous one and also resembles the big Honda brothers,Civic and Accord.The best thing about the exterior of this City is the front view of the car.The wide,sleek and elegently designed radiator grill gives a refreashing look to the car.The dimesions of the car are almost similar to those of the older model.The sharp lines on the hood gives the city some attitude on the road.The boot space is increased about 25%,from 400ltrs to 506ltrs.But the good news doesnt end there,under the hood,There is a fairly powerful 1.3L SOHC VTEC engine.which produces a healthy 100bhp,enough for a 1.3L car.But dont think that you would have to lose something on the fuel economy side to get this sort of power.The fuel economy is actually improved.Some indian car expert magzines gave the figures of 22km/ltr for the auto transmission,which is the best in its class.The emission standards are improved as well.Previous city was Euro 3 compliant,but the new city is Euro 4 compliant.which means that your car is enviornment friendly.The only thing which you need to be concered about is the interior,which feels abit cramped campared to the previous City,but there is a reason to it.In the pervious city.the hood and the trunk had only a small portion of the exterior length covered,and the cabin was much bigger,which gave nice interior space,but from outside,the car looked ugly to some eyes.To correct this ugliness,the car was redesigned with increased hood and trunk length from outside,this made it look much better but the drawback was the lesser interior space.The second thing was the missing silver portions on the interior bits and panels of the Pakistani City.The interior would have felt lively only if some spots of it would have been in silver color.But you have alot other advantages,like 15" rims,ABS as standard,vtec engine,details of fuel milage on a special screen in the speedometer,huge boot and many other small things. In a nutshel,the new Honda City is much more refined comparitively to the previous one.The basic things which matter alot have been improved like the engine and the exterior design.The ride of the car is also improved,thanks to the small changes in the suspension.All in all,its still a great package if you see it the value-for-money way in Pakistani market atleast.


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    Fuel Consumption:- The 2005 face-lifted Honda City i-DSI achieved an impressive 26.2km per liter of fuel consumption during a challenge in June 2007. The challenge requires the vehicle to be occupied by 4 persons (including the driver), air conditioning being switched on and a load of luggage. The whole route stretched more than 660km that consists of not only highway driving but also hill climbing. ==================================== Source:-My self mostly,wikipedia and Honda atlas.


    In Short:- In short,according to me,all this proves that Honda City has been a great car for a family to have at all times for more than a decade now.It has proven its self to be a complete car one would need at a price tag it is available for.An im one of the thousands of satisfied owners of it for the past one year. Now all we need are your comments and thoughts upon this small wonder.And also do make sure you post some pix of your own city if you have,of any model.Please feel free to express your feelings about this car.

    Maintainence schedule:-

    There have been a lot of queries regarding the maintainence shedule of Honda City. To help find members and guests find this information easily and quickly, i am writing the complete maintainence shedule which i have been following for the past 5 years for my car (180,000kms).Cost of completing the job may/may not be stated. Some of it may not be the same as that in maintainence book provided by Honda people. In that case, i ll state the reason of the difference.Here goes.

    Oils:-
    Havoline formula 10W30 (3.7ltr) and oil filter change @ 3000kms. Cost 1900rs

    Transmission oil (Manual transmission) 2 ltr @ 40,000kms.
    Honda original oil 1980rs (2ltr)
    Good quality Zic/ micking oil 800rs (2ltr)

    Transmission oil ( Automatic transmission) 2lre @ 35,000kms
    Honda CVT oil ONLY (3.2-3.4L.) 1980rs

    Brake oil
    Keep it topped up and change only if padel feels very soft n goes wayy down.
    Honda original oil

    Clutch operation oil
    Keep it topped up and change only if you it shows signs of trouble

    Parts change:-

    Brake pads change:-
    recommended @ 30,000kms
    Can use any good quality pads. (labour 400rs for 4 wheels plus pads, from 500rs to 2500rs)

    Fuel filter change @ 40,000kms (IF driven on petrol)

    Air filter change @ 10,000kms Original Honda filter is best.Good quality guard filter is good too.
    980rs for OEM, 350rs for Guard filter.

    Spark plugs @ 20,000kms Original Honda plugs (8 plugs for idsi. 4 for steermatic, new city ivtec and before-2003 model City)

    Timing belt. Not required. From 2003 onwards, all honda Citys have timing chains instead of belts.They usually last a life time.

    Tune-ups :-

    Throttle body service @ 20,000kms Cost around 500rs
    Tappets adjustment / valve clearence @ 20,000kms Cost around 500rs

    Brake adjustment front not required after pads change. rear @ 30,000kms (or when front pads changed)

    Expected Life of Some parts:-

    Brake pads 35,000kms if driven aggressively ( cost already mentioned)
    Clutch plate 110,000kms if driven aggressively ( around 2000rs labour and 6000rs for clutch+pressure plate)
    Clutch bearing 150,000kms (So change with clutch plate) (800rs)
    Tuneups can be delayed to 30,000kms IF the car is run in clean enviornment like in Islamabad etc (less dust)
    Engine oil change can be delays to 5,000kms but not good in long run.

    Service Manual Honda City ids-i 2003-2008:-
    http://www.putlocker.com/file/CED54F8B8FB00360

    Tip for keeping automatic transmission (Vario and steermatic) healthy on CNG:-
    Change engine oil at 3,000kms MAX.
    Tranny oil at 30,000kms
    Tune up (throttle and valve clearence) at 20,000kms
    Do NOT ignore idleing problems. Rough idleing means jerks to transmission and thats what kills it on CNG.
    Keep air filter clean and change at 10,000kms max.

    Instrument cluster cleaning DIY
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/d-i...ening-cleaning
    Console box opening and spray painting DIY
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/d-i...-respray-diy-1
    A/c service, the easy way
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/air...ck-c-service-1
    Honda City GTG at kallar kahar
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/get...g-kallar-kahar
    2nd Honda City GTG at kallar kahar
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/get...ar-23-dec-12-a

    Thats all for now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by daniyalahmad View Post
    @Imaan Nice looking City you have got there!
    Thank you very much !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Imaan1 View Post
    Beautiful shine really adorable
    Thank you bro...............JazakAllah......very sorry to hear about your ride............remember at any large event............park far away from the crowd...............even miles away if you have to...........if you can avoid such places...............or if you wish to go extreme, either find the last petrol pump, park your car there an pay the guard to keep watch over it an use public transport to cover the remaining distance......thats what I usually do for the Ijtema in Raiwind!
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    guy the Power Steering of my iDSI gave up today

    it was working fine i had to stop for something so i parked the car and left it running since my friend was sitting in and to avoid towing

    when i came back the steering was very very hard i managed to get the car home but what could be the problem?

    gonna take it to Honda and see whats wht since it seems very strange

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    Quote Originally Posted by Imaan1 View Post
    Thank you everyone for the compliment unfortunately i had a really bad day at Wagha border . Gari ke saath itni buri hui ke bhula nahi sak raha. Firstly lathi charge ke waga se log bhage or front wing mein bohat bura dent aa gya and rangers ne bohat se lathiyaan gari par barsai haleke humari paindo awam ki ghalti thi aur saza humein bhugadni pari and then unhoon ne lathi ke zoor par humein service lane mein dal diya aur phir poori gari neeche se lagi Feel really sorry for my beauty though i was telling my bro who had just arrived from Uk and wanted to go to Wagha that it is not reasonable to take this car to Wagha on 14th par chote ki kaun sunta hai ?
    I will upload the pics of the dent I had the waxed it today morning (poori raat nahi soya aur 6 baje gari par mehnat ki ) and posted the pics and till the night it is really bad shape I hope neeche se damage nahi hua

    Once again thank you everyone for your compliments

    Damn these rangers were so ....... and even the awam was behaving in an idiotic manner as always stupid lafanter
    lagta hay gari ko nazar lag gaye after posting pics. Mein hota to us idiot ko gari say zaror hit karta but slightly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PGhasanJ View Post
    guy the Power Steering of my iDSI gave up today

    it was working fine i had to stop for something so i parked the car and left it running since my friend was sitting in and to avoid towing

    when i came back the steering was very very hard i managed to get the car home but what could be the problem?

    gonna take it to Honda and see whats wht since it seems very strange
    Is the yellow steering light on in the meter cluster?? Its on the extreme right...secondly check the air pressure in the tyres.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by coolsmart View Post
    lagta hay gari ko nazar lag gaye after posting pics. Mein hota to us idiot ko gari say zaror hit karta but slightly.
    Coolsmart, no point in it, in such situations they are very charged an it`s better to avoid than confront..........awaih hi koi attempt samajh kar gari par hi fire kar daitay fair kaun zimaydar si????
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    Quote Originally Posted by PGhasanJ View Post
    guy the Power Steering of my iDSI gave up today

    it was working fine i had to stop for something so i parked the car and left it running since my friend was sitting in and to avoid towing

    when i came back the steering was very very hard i managed to get the car home but what could be the problem?

    gonna take it to Honda and see whats wht since it seems very strange
    I am not that expert but to rule out the possibillilty of blown fuse, check fuse no 2,3 under hood & no 3 under dash fuse.
    Do u see the EPS light when switch is turned on before ignation.

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    Is the yellow steering light on in the meter cluster?? Its on the extreme right...secondly check the air pressure in the tyres.....
    I am not that expert but to rule out the possibillilty of blown fuse, check fuse no 2,3 under hood & no 3 under dash fuse.
    Do u see the EPS light when switch is turned on before ignation.
    Yes the Yellow Steering Light remains ON
    Tyres r fine ill check the Fuses

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    Quote Originally Posted by coolsmart View Post
    lagta hay gari ko nazar lag gaye after posting pics. Mein hota to us idiot ko gari say zaror hit karta but slightly.
    Yep! har banda paghal hua hua tha but Allah ka shukar hai ke dent sahi ho gya hai there was absolutely no damage to the paint and halake sa haath marne se hi dent nikal gya par neeche raghar re nishan hain aur front bumper par shote shote nishan hain rickshaw walon ki. Lathiyaan to kaafi pari thi gari ko lekin Shukar hai koi sheeshaw nahi toota

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    The car is fine now. Dent was repaired just by a push from the inside. From the underside there is a minor white scratch of the footpath had to cross because of the consequences. There are no scratches because of the lathi charge Allah ka shukar hai

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    @bango
    Ahmed - what is the realistic fuel consumption of an idsi on CNG and petrol both on highway as well as local.

    I read the bit about 26.2, which is exceptional, but I'm sure the daily driving figures would be different.

    Also please mention what should the rough price of a 2003-4 idsi in great condition.
    CNG:-
    Local- 130-145km with a/c (lower end of range with a/c and higher without a/c)
    Highway- 150-180km without and sometimes even with a/c.depending on speed, weight and heavy/light foot.
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    Local- havent driven my car for long on petrol for quite some time, last time it used to do around 14km/ltr
    Highway- Max i ve ever achieved (not optimum conditions) was 18.125km/ltr

    2003-04 idsi in excellent condition can range upto 8.5lakh PKR.

    How many years old were you on this earth a couple of posts back?? Har wakt hi party mahol banaye rakhna hai ??
    hehehe... 14th august bhi add kar lain ab
    btw, read ur sms later n deep inside, same question was arising in my mind :|

    That's impossible... I got my swift registered in 45k... Not to forget that swift has bigger engine that city i.e. 1328cc and comes under the category of 1500 cc car...
    bro even 1328cc is counted as 1300cc.and the cost of registration was increase by 10k in this budget i guess.plus the cost of plates n small other things etc etc.
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    bro it has 88k on odo but I have this car for last 5k so cant tell about life of filter
    i think you should get the fuel filter of your car changed.its life is 40,000kms and hardly anyone gets it changed so i dont think the previous owner did too!

    Sir aab yeh to mazaydari ki baat hai keh I use my sleeping time for the car`s cleaning.........except for a couple of times in life I have used my own personal time for my relaxing to do my car..................I have a very normal life other than when I`m with my car....I have a 9 to 6 job, 6 days a week, a little girl who`s going to school an a boy who is around 2 years old....an I cater to them very well, alida baat hai they dirty the car up sooo much.....then parents, wife, in-laws, friends.......I give time to each.................if you check the car care detailing thread, you`ll realize kinay junooni higay aan assi..............lekin if you neglect yer core resp to it`s no good! JazakAllah!
    Sir aap mahaaaan hain , azeem hain, chamatkaari hain me n @zohaib bro were talking on fone few days ago n he said hes not getting enough time for his car n same on my side.then we were wandering how @usman bhai manages everything sooooo well Mashallah... balancing is the art of life!

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    excellent yaarr.... great to see such a nicely maintained car in cool red color they are very rare.u ve got a few scratches here n there.i would say get small quantity of OEM cool red paint in a small jar n by using a paint brush, apply the paint to the scratches.Honda guys can do that for u too, they ll charge u some amount.that way u ll have a scratchless car without any repaints.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Imaan1 View Post
    Thank you everyone for the compliment unfortunately i had a really bad day at Wagha border . Gari ke saath itni buri hui ke bhula nahi sak raha. Firstly lathi charge ke waga se log bhage or front wing mein bohat bura dent aa gya and rangers ne bohat se lathiyaan gari par barsai haleke humari paindo awam ki ghalti thi aur saza humein bhugadni pari and then unhoon ne lathi ke zoor par humein service lane mein dal diya aur phir poori gari neeche se lagi Feel really sorry for my beauty though i was telling my bro who had just arrived from Uk and wanted to go to Wagha that it is not reasonable to take this car to Wagha on 14th par chote ki kaun sunta hai ?
    I will upload the pics of the dent I had the waxed it today morning (poori raat nahi soya aur 6 baje gari par mehnat ki ) and posted the pics and till the night it is really bad shape I hope neeche se damage nahi hua

    Once again thank you everyone for your compliments

    Damn these rangers were so ....... and even the awam was behaving in an idiotic manner as always stupid lafanter
    oh! very sad to know that its verry veryyy hard to digest something like that done to ones beloved nice n clean car! i hope the damage is not much as is easily repairable!
    btw, try to park ur car as far from crowd as u can.last night i was out with friends on my city for celebrations of 14th, i parked my car around 200 meters away from all the crowd and also left the parking lights ON so that i can see it from a distance.
    but still, u never know! **** happens!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmadbila View Post



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    excellent yaarr.... great to see such a nicely maintained car in cool red color they are very rare.u ve got a few scratches here n there.i would say get small quantity of OEM cool red paint in a small jar n by using a paint brush, apply the paint to the scratches.Honda guys can do that for u too, they ll charge u some amount.that way u ll have a scratchless car without any repaints.
    Thanks for the compliment ! Yes i know abt that doing that has been pending from a long time have to get the paint matched to apply it as a kalam. The damage will be repaired by suction hopefully when we push it from the inside it comes out but the grooves on the front fender need a bit reshaping jab us par choti hammer pari gi to line shape mein ajai gi aur phir ander nahi jye gi. i'll attach a pic for reference

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    BTW what happened to your cool ride?

    I will make the bumpers scratchless and then will post the pictures.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PGhasanJ View Post
    Yes the Yellow Steering Light remains ON
    Tyres r fine ill check the Fuses
    If the yellow light of EPS is ON, there is certainly something wrong with it.
    a lot of things can cause that.
    it can be as simple as a dirty EPS plug/socket/clip sort of thing which is underneath ur car located somewhere in steering rack (this happened to my car too) and at its worse it can be a blown EPS motor (GOD forbid).
    in between the both, it can be a fuse or some wiring short issue too.

    now, u have to take it to a good mechanic first.a mechanic who has the diagnostic tool for EPS too.he ll hook up the device to the EPS and will read the error.the error will pin point where the error is.

    in my case, it was the clip thing.
    my mechanic first cleared the error codes from the EPS and told me to test it for some time.it stopped working again after some time. (mine used to work on its own will so it was confirm that motor isnt dead). then he cleaned the clip but the problem was still not gone.
    eventually,he opened it again and did something to the clip, may be it was loose or broken, after that, the EPS never stopped working and its been around a year now.
    I hope its something minor in your case too.u can check the fuses urself.the fuse box is located near the right shock absorber in the engine bay, open it and check the EPS fuses.
    unhood ur battery terminals for 30min and then put them back n see if it helps (this might help because this will erase the error code in the EPS)
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    hello guys....guys im goin to ma hometown coming weeknd on my new city 2011 6000 driven....its ma first long trip on city.... so guys what mileage u getting on long routes....

    do tell me so i can compare or have an idea of mileage per liter on long route...
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    Quote Originally Posted by maniyara View Post
    I just want ask that what is the registration cost for honda city from ISLAMABAD?

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    around 60,000 PKR i guess.
    Last week I got my Honda City 2011 registered from Islamabad for 48,000 Rs.
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    @margallar
    thanks for the correction! i think 60k registration was for lahore.

    @imaan1
    hmmm... do get it fixed as it will be an easy one , dry denting as they say.
    and bro nothing happened to my car,it just needs some repaints on both bumpers and a door.u know in small cities, cars get scratched much easily as compared to larger cities :|

    hello guys....guys im goin to ma hometown coming weeknd on my new city 2011 6000 driven....its ma first long trip on city.... so guys what mileage u getting on long routes....

    do tell me so i can compare or have an idea of mileage per liter on long route...
    as ur car has done 6000kms only, it will give relatively lesser fuel economy compared to a car that has done more then 10,000kms.you should be looking at around 15km/ltr for now.this figure should rise upto 18km/ltr + easily after u ve crossed the 10,000kms mark!
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    nearing the mark

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    and Oh, this pic was taken yesterday.today this is at 199720
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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmadbila View Post
    @margallar
    thanks for the correction! i think 60k registration was for lahore.

    @imaan1
    hmmm... do get it fixed as it will be an easy one , dry denting as they say.
    and bro nothing happened to my car,it just needs some repaints on both bumpers and a door.u know in small cities, cars get scratched much easily as compared to larger cities :|


    I wont get in painted obviously as there is no need of it. Only needs one small hit. Yep ! surely know that abt the small cities also saw the number written on your trunk.It is really good that nothing happened to your car. Dont get the door painted resale mein faraq parhta hai when we sold our alto it also had touching and dry denting and really reduced the resale only get the bumpers painted

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