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    Default Honda City Fan Club

    (Maintainence schedule added at the end)

    Hi guys..!!! I thought we should have a Fan club for honda city.Theres already a fourm for City but thats dedicated to city steermatic only.in this club,we shall hav steermatic,idsi,cvt nd all models of city and all their variants. Well the history of this car is somewhat like this...


    First generation (1997-2000) On january 22nd 1997,the first Honda City was launched as a sedan.The city was always made for families and not for racing or sports.Thats why they were always equiped with the latest or sometimes firsts in the market.The interior was always very comforting and the seating position is also very comfortable.It had the options of power windows,and side view mirrors for the top model though they were not there in the base model.Power steeing,front seatbelts,digital clock,AC was available in the basic model too.One the outside,it was very elegantly designed.Beautiful,handsome and decent.Under the hood,it had a 1300cc 16valve SOHC engine ,and was the first car to have 16-valve in 1300cc category.


    Second generation (2000-2003) On January 20th 2000, Honda replaced the original City of 1997 with an update.This model of city had the basic shape of its predecessor.but with new crystal head lamps at the front,power side view mirrors and a chrome lining around the rear numberplate garnish.It was the first car in pakistan to have rear crystal headlights.It had two varients. Exi and Exi-s.The Exi had manual windows and side view mirrors,body colored licence plate garnish(not chromed), semi-fabric seat covers, 165/13 tyres,black door mirrors and no high mount stop lamp.But the Exi-s had all these things in it.The outside looked more gracefull with crystal lights and some new lines on the exterior.The engine in both of them were same.But this one had Programed fuel injection(PGM-Fi).There was optional 4-speed automatic transmission available. The engine engine's maximum horse power=90/6400 and maximum torque =11.5/4700 This model was produced until 2003


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    Third generation (2003-2005) On 23rd August 2003, the third-generation Honda City was launched which had a totally new shape.It was a very stylish and aerodynamic shape introduced in pakistan for the first time.It also was the first car to introduce i-dsi (intelligence-dual and sequential ignation) and CVT (continuously variable transmission) in Pakistan.It had an engine which is higly fuel economic and was build specially for better fuel economy.This car was equipped with power windows(pinch free) , power side view mirrors, tilt adjustable steering column and yet another first,the EPS or electriconic power steering.it made the steering very very soft to turn and also it had no oil used in it so it had no maintanence required.Other featrure of this car is that its the first Euro 3 comliant car in pakistan,that means that its very low on harmful emmisions.The EURO 3 emission standard are applicable in Europe from the year 2000, they are considered to be amongst the most strict standards worldwide. The standard limits emissions to 2.1 g/kWh CO, 0.66 g/kWh HC, 5.0 g/kWh NOx, 0.1 g/kWh particles. Another striking feature is, the boot space(400ltrs).it was bigger then any local car availabe at that time.This car was basically meant for families.it had two glove compartments,a big boot,empty space under the rear seats, four glass holders,and also, a smal space provided in the two front doors.And guess what? All of these options were available in the basic version.This city was divided on just the basis of the drive-train.One was manual,and other was automatic. On the outside,this car was designed very sophisticatedly,it looked smaller than other cars in size from outside but is alot more spacious inside.the body design was an immediate hit among fans and poeple who knew somthing about this type of things.Even the side view mirrors are designed to cut through air.


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    Fourth generation (2005-present) In september 2005,the fourth generation City was released.It was basically a face-lifted version on the previous model.it is known as the City ZX in Thailand, India, the New City in Malaysia and City in Pakistan.The most significant changes are a new exterior (new front grille, new headlamps, new fog lights, newtaillights and bumpers). The front end has been extended forward by 65 mm (2.6 in) while the rear has been extended by 15 mm (0.6 in). The VTEC trim have 15 inch alloy wheels as standard equipment. Interior changes are minor but it does include an armrest for the driver.The rest remains almost same as in the previous model. The engine remains the same but the intake manifold has been modified, resulting a 10% temperature drop in the intake air temperature (IAT), the suspension has been upgraded as well. Honda City in Pakistan are using CVT gearbox for both i-DSI and VTEC variants. The CVT-VTEC 1.5L gearbox is equipped with a Simulated 7-Speed Automated Manual Transmission (AMT) using paddle shift buttons. This is very rare for a subcompact of its class.This VTEC variant was called City-steermatic.

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    Steermatic:- The steermatic is basicaly a name of a technology used in the city VTEC 1.5L model.this model had a different engine than the idsi.it had a 1.5L engine with an auto transmission.this was not any other auto transmission.its is steermatic,means that you can change gears just by push of a button on the steering wheel.this is basically used in F1 racing.It has 2 options,either you drive on fully automated CVT option,or you select a virtual manual transmission.For this,you would change the gears when you want with a push of a button.This model also have an opitiron meter and also stock imported 15" alloy rims with bridgestone Potenza tyres. This technology is very sophisticated and advanced,which,sadly was'nt accepted by the buyers in Pakistan because they simply could not understand it and hence,this particular model of city was discontined.


    I-dsi:- I-dsi stands for Intelligence-dual and sequential ignation.In this type of engine,two spark plugs are employed for each cylinder.That makes 8 spark plugs instead of 4 plugs used by most cars.Adding of an additional plug assures complete burning and utilizing the last drop of fuel thrown into the cylinders which would provide you the best performace and better fuel consumption.Not all the times the 8 plugs are working,but when u push your car through high revs or speeds,all of them work simeltaneously and thats when ypu can feel the difference.But theres one drawback in it,this engine is equiped with 8 valves not 16.Hence it decreased the performance and city seems to be out of breath after 5000RPMs,but as this is basically a family car,performance is not the priority.The best thing about this was the fuel economy,about which,you can read the paragraph below.

    Fifth generation (2009 onwards) On 31th january 2009,the fifth generation of the honda City was launched in Pakistan.Which was an immediate hit among the fans.The previous Honda City was criticised due to its shape,but this time the best thing was the shape,which is even more aerodynamic then the previous one and also resembles the big Honda brothers,Civic and Accord.The best thing about the exterior of this City is the front view of the car.The wide,sleek and elegently designed radiator grill gives a refreashing look to the car.The dimesions of the car are almost similar to those of the older model.The sharp lines on the hood gives the city some attitude on the road.The boot space is increased about 25%,from 400ltrs to 506ltrs.But the good news doesnt end there,under the hood,There is a fairly powerful 1.3L SOHC VTEC engine.which produces a healthy 100bhp,enough for a 1.3L car.But dont think that you would have to lose something on the fuel economy side to get this sort of power.The fuel economy is actually improved.Some indian car expert magzines gave the figures of 22km/ltr for the auto transmission,which is the best in its class.The emission standards are improved as well.Previous city was Euro 3 compliant,but the new city is Euro 4 compliant.which means that your car is enviornment friendly.The only thing which you need to be concered about is the interior,which feels abit cramped campared to the previous City,but there is a reason to it.In the pervious city.the hood and the trunk had only a small portion of the exterior length covered,and the cabin was much bigger,which gave nice interior space,but from outside,the car looked ugly to some eyes.To correct this ugliness,the car was redesigned with increased hood and trunk length from outside,this made it look much better but the drawback was the lesser interior space.The second thing was the missing silver portions on the interior bits and panels of the Pakistani City.The interior would have felt lively only if some spots of it would have been in silver color.But you have alot other advantages,like 15" rims,ABS as standard,vtec engine,details of fuel milage on a special screen in the speedometer,huge boot and many other small things. In a nutshel,the new Honda City is much more refined comparitively to the previous one.The basic things which matter alot have been improved like the engine and the exterior design.The ride of the car is also improved,thanks to the small changes in the suspension.All in all,its still a great package if you see it the value-for-money way in Pakistani market atleast.


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    Fuel Consumption:- The 2005 face-lifted Honda City i-DSI achieved an impressive 26.2km per liter of fuel consumption during a challenge in June 2007. The challenge requires the vehicle to be occupied by 4 persons (including the driver), air conditioning being switched on and a load of luggage. The whole route stretched more than 660km that consists of not only highway driving but also hill climbing. ==================================== Source:-My self mostly,wikipedia and Honda atlas.


    In Short:- In short,according to me,all this proves that Honda City has been a great car for a family to have at all times for more than a decade now.It has proven its self to be a complete car one would need at a price tag it is available for.An im one of the thousands of satisfied owners of it for the past one year. Now all we need are your comments and thoughts upon this small wonder.And also do make sure you post some pix of your own city if you have,of any model.Please feel free to express your feelings about this car.

    Maintainence schedule:-

    There have been a lot of queries regarding the maintainence shedule of Honda City. To help find members and guests find this information easily and quickly, i am writing the complete maintainence shedule which i have been following for the past 5 years for my car (180,000kms).Cost of completing the job may/may not be stated. Some of it may not be the same as that in maintainence book provided by Honda people. In that case, i ll state the reason of the difference.Here goes.

    Oils:-
    Havoline formula 10W30 (3.7ltr) and oil filter change @ 3000kms. Cost 1900rs

    Transmission oil (Manual transmission) 2 ltr @ 40,000kms.
    Honda original oil 1980rs (2ltr)
    Good quality Zic/ micking oil 800rs (2ltr)

    Transmission oil ( Automatic transmission) 2lre @ 35,000kms
    Honda CVT oil ONLY (3.2-3.4L.) 1980rs

    Brake oil
    Keep it topped up and change only if padel feels very soft n goes wayy down.
    Honda original oil

    Clutch operation oil
    Keep it topped up and change only if you it shows signs of trouble

    Parts change:-

    Brake pads change:-
    recommended @ 30,000kms
    Can use any good quality pads. (labour 400rs for 4 wheels plus pads, from 500rs to 2500rs)

    Fuel filter change @ 40,000kms (IF driven on petrol)

    Air filter change @ 10,000kms Original Honda filter is best.Good quality guard filter is good too.
    980rs for OEM, 350rs for Guard filter.

    Spark plugs @ 20,000kms Original Honda plugs (8 plugs for idsi. 4 for steermatic, new city ivtec and before-2003 model City)

    Timing belt. Not required. From 2003 onwards, all honda Citys have timing chains instead of belts.They usually last a life time.

    Tune-ups :-

    Throttle body service @ 20,000kms Cost around 500rs
    Tappets adjustment / valve clearence @ 20,000kms Cost around 500rs

    Brake adjustment front not required after pads change. rear @ 30,000kms (or when front pads changed)

    Expected Life of Some parts:-

    Brake pads 35,000kms if driven aggressively ( cost already mentioned)
    Clutch plate 110,000kms if driven aggressively ( around 2000rs labour and 6000rs for clutch+pressure plate)
    Clutch bearing 150,000kms (So change with clutch plate) (800rs)
    Tuneups can be delayed to 30,000kms IF the car is run in clean enviornment like in Islamabad etc (less dust)
    Engine oil change can be delays to 5,000kms but not good in long run.

    Service Manual Honda City ids-i 2003-2008:-
    http://www.putlocker.com/file/CED54F8B8FB00360

    Tip for keeping automatic transmission (Vario and steermatic) healthy on CNG:-
    Change engine oil at 3,000kms MAX.
    Tranny oil at 30,000kms
    Tune up (throttle and valve clearence) at 20,000kms
    Do NOT ignore idleing problems. Rough idleing means jerks to transmission and thats what kills it on CNG.
    Keep air filter clean and change at 10,000kms max.

    Instrument cluster cleaning DIY
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/d-i...ening-cleaning
    Console box opening and spray painting DIY
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/d-i...-respray-diy-1
    A/c service, the easy way
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/air...ck-c-service-1
    Honda City GTG at kallar kahar
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/get...g-kallar-kahar
    2nd Honda City GTG at kallar kahar
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/get...ar-23-dec-12-a

    Thats all for now.
    When the power of love exceeds the love for power, the world will finally know peace=Every man is guilty of all the good he didn't do

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    Quote Originally Posted by a_n_memon88 View Post
    Sir mujhe kitnay marks milengay for answers because I am an owner of idsi since june 2011 while you have it since 2006, 4 months mein achi performance hai
    hahaha u get 100 out of 100 bro... thats why i copied ur post n added some extra things ... great performance
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    Quote Originally Posted by fahadwizz View Post
    Got fog in one of my headlights later:p Don't know what to do with it.

    Balancing discovered very very small bent in front left rim which had been causing weird vibrations around at the body between 30-60kmph. Got it rotated and the vibration is almost gone.
    The seal of one of ur light is probably worn out from some place.see if the fog disappears/doesnt show up at anytime other then washes, then its okay... otherwise take the light out and get sillicon filled in its seals...
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The suggestions from Ahamed Bhai are great. Car is giving me millage of 170-190 kms per cylinder (60 kg) in city (Islamabad) and above 210 kms or even some time 230 Km per cylinder on long routes. I am very satisfied with the performance.

    Since December 2010 the car has been driven around 30000 kms. Now again its time for tappet adjustments and cleaning of throttle body. I also want to get gas-kit serviced (open all the things of kit and washing, draining of oil and refixing) as i dont know when it was done by the previous owner.

    I need suggestion from experts and specially Ahmed bhai what thing should be done first. Should i get the tapped adjusted and throttle body cleaned and go for gas kit service and adjustment or the gas adjustments should be done first and then tappets should be adjusted according to gas settings.

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    Hi, Salam All members, I have purchased an idsi (2005) in last December and uptill now the car is going great. The suggestions from Ahamed Bhai are great. Car is giving me millage of 170-190 kms per cylinder (60 kg) in city (Islamabad) and above 210 kms or even some time 230 Km per cylinder on long routes. I am very satisfied with the performance.

    Since December 2010 the car has been driven around 30000 kms. Now again its time for tappet adjustments and cleaning of throttle body. I also want to get gas-kit serviced (open all the things of kit and washing, draining of oil and refixing) as i dont know when it was done by the previous owner.

    I need suggestion from experts and specially Ahmed bhai what thing should be done first. Should i get the tapped adjusted and throttle body cleaned and go for gas kit service and adjustment or the gas adjustments should be done first and then tappets should be adjusted according to gas settings.
    Good to know that u are satisfied with ur car after using it for a year.
    For tuning, i will suggest the following (I am assuming that ur car is running fine)

    1) DO NOT touch the CNG kit if ur car is running fine! The rule of thumb is that never take ur car to workshop if its working fine (but yes there are a few things that have to be taken care of)

    2) Get throttle body washed, get it detached from the engine,get its sensor out and clean it thoroughly using carburetor cleaner (look for the maintainence schedule in main post)

    3) Get tappets adjusted.Note that this is a very very technical task and not every ustaad rasheed can do it! take ur car to an expert mechanic, dont try a new person or dont even trust Honda 3S guys unless u ve tested them before.

    4) If yours is a vario (automatic) u should get the transmission oil changed and use ONLY Honda OEM oil (CVTF).
    If its a manual, u can use the oil for 40,000kms but as u don't know when did the last oil was changed. U can use any good quality Non-Honda OEM transmission oil for it like zic or micking etc.u need 2ltr oil (both for vario n manual) 1ltr oil costs around 400rs/ltr.

    I hope this will help u.a lot of other maintainance tips are stated in the main post, go through them, they ll surely help u sometime in the future...
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    i want to buy city 2006-07 but somebody has told my dad that there is not temperature gauge in this care. is it true? if yes then whats the solution for it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmadbila View Post
    Good to know that u are satisfied with ur car after using it for a year.
    For tuning, i will suggest the following (I am assuming that ur car is running fine)

    1) DO NOT touch the CNG kit if ur car is running fine! The rule of thumb is that never take ur car to workshop if its working fine (but yes there are a few things that have to be taken care of)

    2) Get throttle body washed, get it detached from the engine,get its sensor out and clean it thoroughly using carburetor cleaner (look for the maintainence schedule in main post)

    3) Get tappets adjusted.Note that this is a very very technical task and not every ustaad rasheed can do it! take ur car to an expert mechanic, dont try a new person or dont even trust Honda 3S guys unless u ve tested them before.

    4) If yours is a vario (automatic) u should get the transmission oil changed and use ONLY Honda OEM oil (CVTF).
    If its a manual, u can use the oil for 40,000kms but as u don't know when did the last oil was changed. U can use any good quality Non-Honda OEM transmission oil for it like zic or micking etc.u need 2ltr oil (both for vario n manual) 1ltr oil costs around 400rs/ltr.

    I hope this will help u.a lot of other maintainance tips are stated in the main post, go through them, they ll surely help u sometime in the future...

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    salam bhai log
    i want to buy city 2006-07 but somebody has told my dad that there is not temperature gauge in this care. is it true? if yes then whats the solution for it?
    thanks
    well, there IS a temprature guage in city idsi.but it doesnt show up when its not needed.
    when the engine is cold, like in the morning, a light blue light glows inside ur instrument cluster, after a while when the engine reaches operating temprature, this light goes off.
    If the car overheats, another light,red, shows up in the cluster. in 200,000kms of life, my car never showed the red light...
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    okay then u dont need to change the transmission oil right now... get the other work done and let us know how it affects ur cars' performance/mileage...
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    For last two days I am experiencing a strange problem with my friends city its idsi 2005 on CNG. As my friend is not into repairing so it came upon me to repair his car so I took it to my mechanic. I would like to tell you that my friend is also my neighbour and once or twice a week I get to drive his car, to me its perfect. Now let me tell you how it all began. On this Sunday his car was out of gas so he had to start it on petrol, as soon as he did that the car started to phuk phuk like its missing, he drove the car in same condition to his college to take a class on his return he refilled the gas and converted to CNG the car behaved absolutely fine. So now the problem is that the car is as smooth as butter on CNG but pathetic on petrol continuous misfirring. The things done by my mechanic in last 2 days are as follows
    1. Checked the injectors and they are working fine
    2. Checked fuel pump and filter also fine
    3. Checked plugs also fine
    4. Checked tappets also fine
    5. Checked all Coils also fine although he did check them by a tester system not the resistance of each coil but the problem did not solve as he changed the coils
    6. He disconnected CNG kit but problem not resolved
    After all of the above the problem has almost halved 2 days ago it was pathetic although its still pathetic. My mechanic said that run your car on highway at high rpms for 20-30 kms the problem will disappear I did that felt only a slight difference but still it misses. Now I think that mixing about 10 litres of high octane will solve the problem. The other thing he said and that really pissed me off that he will open the entire head and check fuel lines because according to him one cylinder does not work on petrol now that sounds really funny because today i stretched the car till 100 km/hr on petrol on 3rd gear and it was ready for more the engine revs easily till 5000 rpms and more but with phuk phuk. Now if one cylinder is not working how can an engine rev at 5000rpm while its as smooth as you like it on CNG. Second last time he drove the car was a month ago and that too more than 100kms on highway. Please help me as my friend is really worried we are class fellows and currently he has to take lift from me if CNG finishes

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    Today i m very sad. My car was parked infront of shop and was hit by pickup/dala which was reversing. My brother was in shop and only driver was in car, according to him, he shouted a lot but the dala driver did see until he hit my sweet sweet car. He is willing to pay for damage although bro said he is poor guy.

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    Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmadbila View Post
    Brother thats not a problem at all... even my 2006 city idsi bonnet frame is not welded.why exactly do u want it to be welded to the bonnet? instead of welds, there is a soft rubber type thing that cushions the frame against the bonnet surface.
    The reason there is a gap between the frame and the bonnet sheet is a good one,consider this..
    someone driving a city hits a pedestrian n his head strikes the bonnet.now, if the bonnet is hard (i.e. frame is welded to the sheet) the guys head would open like a boiled egg, this distance in frame and bonnet infact absorbs the energy! also note that there is a lot of distance between the top of the engine and the ceiling (inside) of the bonnet, that is also done for the same reason.
    (All of this is not just my guess, i read it long ago in some Honda related article)
    Well the problem with the inner frame in 2011 is that it is not even fixed with the bonnet. If u check the inner frame it is loose and one can see that it is not properly fixed. Wot u say about that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by coolsmart View Post
    AOA
    Today i m very sad. My car was parked infront of shop and was hit by pickup/dala which was reversing. My brother was in shop and only driver was in car, according to him, he shouted a lot but the dala driver did see until he hit my sweet sweet car. He is willing to pay for damage although bro said he is poor guy.

    here are Pictures, wt u suggest, should i repair it from honda with huge bill or some good reputed denter/painter in my city or rwl/isb.
    Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmadbila View Post
    well, there IS a temprature guage in city idsi.but it doesnt show up when its not needed.
    when the engine is cold, like in the morning, a light blue light glows inside ur instrument cluster, after a while when the engine reaches operating temprature, this light goes off.
    If the car overheats, another light,red, shows up in the cluster. in 200,000kms of life, my car never showed the red light...
    I installed the after market gauge in my car, see few pages back. I only installed it to get more feeling of engine. The red indication as mentioned above cautioned u to stop further driving and it lite up well b4 u can damage the engine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by a_n_memon88 View Post
    AOA


    For last two days I am experiencing a strange problem with my friends city its idsi 2005 on CNG. As my friend is not into repairing so it came upon me to repair his car so I took it to my mechanic. I would like to tell you that my friend is also my neighbour and once or twice a week I get to drive his car, to me its perfect. Now let me tell you how it all began. On this Sunday his car was out of gas so he had to start it on petrol, as soon as he did that the car started to phuk phuk like its missing, he drove the car in same condition to his college to take a class on his return he refilled the gas and converted to CNG the car behaved absolutely fine. So now the problem is that the car is as smooth as butter on CNG but pathetic on petrol continuous misfirring. The things done by my mechanic in last 2 days are as follows
    1. Checked the injectors and they are working fine
    2. Checked fuel pump and filter also fine
    3. Checked plugs also fine
    4. Checked tappets also fine
    5. Checked all Coils also fine although he did check them by a tester system not the resistance of each coil but the problem did not solve as he changed the coils
    6. He disconnected CNG kit but problem not resolved
    After all of the above the problem has almost halved 2 days ago it was pathetic although its still pathetic. My mechanic said that run your car on highway at high rpms for 20-30 kms the problem will disappear I did that felt only a slight difference but still it misses. Now I think that mixing about 10 litres of high octane will solve the problem. The other thing he said and that really pissed me off that he will open the entire head and check fuel lines because according to him one cylinder does not work on petrol now that sounds really funny because today i stretched the car till 100 km/hr on petrol on 3rd gear and it was ready for more the engine revs easily till 5000 rpms and more but with phuk phuk. Now if one cylinder is not working how can an engine rev at 5000rpm while its as smooth as you like it on CNG. Second last time he drove the car was a month ago and that too more than 100kms on highway. Please help me as my friend is really worried we are class fellows and currently he has to take lift from me if CNG finishes
    in my opinion the problem could be in fuel system i.e fuel pump,filter or injector as neither are used in cng operation. The common things of both cng and petrol are working fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rockerguy View Post
    Never regret on a loss that has none of your fault... Be glad and thankful to Allah that this loss is totally repairable.. Be Thankful to Allah for all the good times, and also for all the bad times you never saw!!
    Peace,
    Thanks bro. I think i should develop a habit of forgetting during such kind of losses.

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    I was once hit by a reversing tractor trolley - I was in the car , the slightest impact broke my rear side window and some dents around the door - Took 7k from the tractor wala , it was a cantonement machine cleaning up encroachments.

    Quote Originally Posted by coolsmart View Post
    AOA
    Today i m very sad. My car was parked infront of shop and was hit by pickup/dala which was reversing. My brother was in shop and only driver was in car, according to him, he shouted a lot but the dala driver did see until he hit my sweet sweet car. He is willing to pay for damage although bro said he is poor guy.

    here are Pictures, wt u suggest, should i repair it from honda with huge bill or some good reputed denter/painter in my city or rwl/isb.
    Thanks.

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    i have this for Honda City 3rd generation ! if any one intrested let me know
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    Yes Sir the magic figure is 507.6km, this is achieved in 39.83Ltr with 100%AC and 100% intercity driving & some times over speeding(120+) , but usually with light foot in between 80 to 100km/h.by Usman aka Jaggi@pw.com, so idsi & ivtec dudes buckle up your self

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    AOA
    Today i m very sad. My car was parked infront of shop and was hit by pickup/dala which was reversing. My brother was in shop and only driver was in car, according to him, he shouted a lot but the dala driver did see until he hit my sweet sweet car. He is willing to pay for damage although bro said he is poor guy.

    here are Pictures, wt u suggest, should i repair it from honda with huge bill or some good reputed denter/painter in my city or rwl/isb.
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    Too bad :O even the sheet is torn apart but i would say the same thing as a brother said. its a small financial loss which can be repaired to be 100% so dont worry.
    If u are among those guys who dont like going anywhere but the 3S dealers for work, well, theres no other option but i think any well reputed denter/painter can fix this easily. Paint matching should also not be an issue.
    cant really give an estimate of how much it should cost! u re lucky it didnt hit the door or wheel arch as it would be harder to repair that.
    btw, this piece of ur car looks like its already painted.theres too much putty used, ask ur denter to scratch off as much of it as he can... this way, if u get small scratches in the future on this portion, the paint wont "break" as it did with this piece this time!
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    This is wonderful achievement.. Congrats to jaggi and hurrah for all steermatic owners..
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