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    Default Honda City Fan Club

    (Maintainence schedule added at the end)

    Hi guys..!!! I thought we should have a Fan club for honda city.Theres already a fourm for City but thats dedicated to city steermatic only.in this club,we shall hav steermatic,idsi,cvt nd all models of city and all their variants. Well the history of this car is somewhat like this...


    First generation (1997-2000) On january 22nd 1997,the first Honda City was launched as a sedan.The city was always made for families and not for racing or sports.Thats why they were always equiped with the latest or sometimes firsts in the market.The interior was always very comforting and the seating position is also very comfortable.It had the options of power windows,and side view mirrors for the top model though they were not there in the base model.Power steeing,front seatbelts,digital clock,AC was available in the basic model too.One the outside,it was very elegantly designed.Beautiful,handsome and decent.Under the hood,it had a 1300cc 16valve SOHC engine ,and was the first car to have 16-valve in 1300cc category.


    Second generation (2000-2003) On January 20th 2000, Honda replaced the original City of 1997 with an update.This model of city had the basic shape of its predecessor.but with new crystal head lamps at the front,power side view mirrors and a chrome lining around the rear numberplate garnish.It was the first car in pakistan to have rear crystal headlights.It had two varients. Exi and Exi-s.The Exi had manual windows and side view mirrors,body colored licence plate garnish(not chromed), semi-fabric seat covers, 165/13 tyres,black door mirrors and no high mount stop lamp.But the Exi-s had all these things in it.The outside looked more gracefull with crystal lights and some new lines on the exterior.The engine in both of them were same.But this one had Programed fuel injection(PGM-Fi).There was optional 4-speed automatic transmission available. The engine engine's maximum horse power=90/6400 and maximum torque =11.5/4700 This model was produced until 2003


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    Third generation (2003-2005) On 23rd August 2003, the third-generation Honda City was launched which had a totally new shape.It was a very stylish and aerodynamic shape introduced in pakistan for the first time.It also was the first car to introduce i-dsi (intelligence-dual and sequential ignation) and CVT (continuously variable transmission) in Pakistan.It had an engine which is higly fuel economic and was build specially for better fuel economy.This car was equipped with power windows(pinch free) , power side view mirrors, tilt adjustable steering column and yet another first,the EPS or electriconic power steering.it made the steering very very soft to turn and also it had no oil used in it so it had no maintanence required.Other featrure of this car is that its the first Euro 3 comliant car in pakistan,that means that its very low on harmful emmisions.The EURO 3 emission standard are applicable in Europe from the year 2000, they are considered to be amongst the most strict standards worldwide. The standard limits emissions to 2.1 g/kWh CO, 0.66 g/kWh HC, 5.0 g/kWh NOx, 0.1 g/kWh particles. Another striking feature is, the boot space(400ltrs).it was bigger then any local car availabe at that time.This car was basically meant for families.it had two glove compartments,a big boot,empty space under the rear seats, four glass holders,and also, a smal space provided in the two front doors.And guess what? All of these options were available in the basic version.This city was divided on just the basis of the drive-train.One was manual,and other was automatic. On the outside,this car was designed very sophisticatedly,it looked smaller than other cars in size from outside but is alot more spacious inside.the body design was an immediate hit among fans and poeple who knew somthing about this type of things.Even the side view mirrors are designed to cut through air.


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    Fourth generation (2005-present) In september 2005,the fourth generation City was released.It was basically a face-lifted version on the previous model.it is known as the City ZX in Thailand, India, the New City in Malaysia and City in Pakistan.The most significant changes are a new exterior (new front grille, new headlamps, new fog lights, newtaillights and bumpers). The front end has been extended forward by 65 mm (2.6 in) while the rear has been extended by 15 mm (0.6 in). The VTEC trim have 15 inch alloy wheels as standard equipment. Interior changes are minor but it does include an armrest for the driver.The rest remains almost same as in the previous model. The engine remains the same but the intake manifold has been modified, resulting a 10% temperature drop in the intake air temperature (IAT), the suspension has been upgraded as well. Honda City in Pakistan are using CVT gearbox for both i-DSI and VTEC variants. The CVT-VTEC 1.5L gearbox is equipped with a Simulated 7-Speed Automated Manual Transmission (AMT) using paddle shift buttons. This is very rare for a subcompact of its class.This VTEC variant was called City-steermatic.

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    Steermatic:- The steermatic is basicaly a name of a technology used in the city VTEC 1.5L model.this model had a different engine than the idsi.it had a 1.5L engine with an auto transmission.this was not any other auto transmission.its is steermatic,means that you can change gears just by push of a button on the steering wheel.this is basically used in F1 racing.It has 2 options,either you drive on fully automated CVT option,or you select a virtual manual transmission.For this,you would change the gears when you want with a push of a button.This model also have an opitiron meter and also stock imported 15" alloy rims with bridgestone Potenza tyres. This technology is very sophisticated and advanced,which,sadly was'nt accepted by the buyers in Pakistan because they simply could not understand it and hence,this particular model of city was discontined.


    I-dsi:- I-dsi stands for Intelligence-dual and sequential ignation.In this type of engine,two spark plugs are employed for each cylinder.That makes 8 spark plugs instead of 4 plugs used by most cars.Adding of an additional plug assures complete burning and utilizing the last drop of fuel thrown into the cylinders which would provide you the best performace and better fuel consumption.Not all the times the 8 plugs are working,but when u push your car through high revs or speeds,all of them work simeltaneously and thats when ypu can feel the difference.But theres one drawback in it,this engine is equiped with 8 valves not 16.Hence it decreased the performance and city seems to be out of breath after 5000RPMs,but as this is basically a family car,performance is not the priority.The best thing about this was the fuel economy,about which,you can read the paragraph below.

    Fifth generation (2009 onwards) On 31th january 2009,the fifth generation of the honda City was launched in Pakistan.Which was an immediate hit among the fans.The previous Honda City was criticised due to its shape,but this time the best thing was the shape,which is even more aerodynamic then the previous one and also resembles the big Honda brothers,Civic and Accord.The best thing about the exterior of this City is the front view of the car.The wide,sleek and elegently designed radiator grill gives a refreashing look to the car.The dimesions of the car are almost similar to those of the older model.The sharp lines on the hood gives the city some attitude on the road.The boot space is increased about 25%,from 400ltrs to 506ltrs.But the good news doesnt end there,under the hood,There is a fairly powerful 1.3L SOHC VTEC engine.which produces a healthy 100bhp,enough for a 1.3L car.But dont think that you would have to lose something on the fuel economy side to get this sort of power.The fuel economy is actually improved.Some indian car expert magzines gave the figures of 22km/ltr for the auto transmission,which is the best in its class.The emission standards are improved as well.Previous city was Euro 3 compliant,but the new city is Euro 4 compliant.which means that your car is enviornment friendly.The only thing which you need to be concered about is the interior,which feels abit cramped campared to the previous City,but there is a reason to it.In the pervious city.the hood and the trunk had only a small portion of the exterior length covered,and the cabin was much bigger,which gave nice interior space,but from outside,the car looked ugly to some eyes.To correct this ugliness,the car was redesigned with increased hood and trunk length from outside,this made it look much better but the drawback was the lesser interior space.The second thing was the missing silver portions on the interior bits and panels of the Pakistani City.The interior would have felt lively only if some spots of it would have been in silver color.But you have alot other advantages,like 15" rims,ABS as standard,vtec engine,details of fuel milage on a special screen in the speedometer,huge boot and many other small things. In a nutshel,the new Honda City is much more refined comparitively to the previous one.The basic things which matter alot have been improved like the engine and the exterior design.The ride of the car is also improved,thanks to the small changes in the suspension.All in all,its still a great package if you see it the value-for-money way in Pakistani market atleast.


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    Fuel Consumption:- The 2005 face-lifted Honda City i-DSI achieved an impressive 26.2km per liter of fuel consumption during a challenge in June 2007. The challenge requires the vehicle to be occupied by 4 persons (including the driver), air conditioning being switched on and a load of luggage. The whole route stretched more than 660km that consists of not only highway driving but also hill climbing. ==================================== Source:-My self mostly,wikipedia and Honda atlas.


    In Short:- In short,according to me,all this proves that Honda City has been a great car for a family to have at all times for more than a decade now.It has proven its self to be a complete car one would need at a price tag it is available for.An im one of the thousands of satisfied owners of it for the past one year. Now all we need are your comments and thoughts upon this small wonder.And also do make sure you post some pix of your own city if you have,of any model.Please feel free to express your feelings about this car.

    Maintainence schedule:-

    There have been a lot of queries regarding the maintainence shedule of Honda City. To help find members and guests find this information easily and quickly, i am writing the complete maintainence shedule which i have been following for the past 5 years for my car (180,000kms).Cost of completing the job may/may not be stated. Some of it may not be the same as that in maintainence book provided by Honda people. In that case, i ll state the reason of the difference.Here goes.

    Oils:-
    Havoline formula 10W30 (3.7ltr) and oil filter change @ 3000kms. Cost 1900rs

    Transmission oil (Manual transmission) 2 ltr @ 40,000kms.
    Honda original oil 1980rs (2ltr)
    Good quality Zic/ micking oil 800rs (2ltr)

    Transmission oil ( Automatic transmission) 2lre @ 35,000kms
    Honda CVT oil ONLY (3.2-3.4L.) 1980rs

    Brake oil
    Keep it topped up and change only if padel feels very soft n goes wayy down.
    Honda original oil

    Clutch operation oil
    Keep it topped up and change only if you it shows signs of trouble

    Parts change:-

    Brake pads change:-
    recommended @ 30,000kms
    Can use any good quality pads. (labour 400rs for 4 wheels plus pads, from 500rs to 2500rs)

    Fuel filter change @ 40,000kms (IF driven on petrol)

    Air filter change @ 10,000kms Original Honda filter is best.Good quality guard filter is good too.
    980rs for OEM, 350rs for Guard filter.

    Spark plugs @ 20,000kms Original Honda plugs (8 plugs for idsi. 4 for steermatic, new city ivtec and before-2003 model City)

    Timing belt. Not required. From 2003 onwards, all honda Citys have timing chains instead of belts.They usually last a life time.

    Tune-ups :-

    Throttle body service @ 20,000kms Cost around 500rs
    Tappets adjustment / valve clearence @ 20,000kms Cost around 500rs

    Brake adjustment front not required after pads change. rear @ 30,000kms (or when front pads changed)

    Expected Life of Some parts:-

    Brake pads 35,000kms if driven aggressively ( cost already mentioned)
    Clutch plate 110,000kms if driven aggressively ( around 2000rs labour and 6000rs for clutch+pressure plate)
    Clutch bearing 150,000kms (So change with clutch plate) (800rs)
    Tuneups can be delayed to 30,000kms IF the car is run in clean enviornment like in Islamabad etc (less dust)
    Engine oil change can be delays to 5,000kms but not good in long run.

    Service Manual Honda City ids-i 2003-2008:-
    http://www.putlocker.com/file/CED54F8B8FB00360

    Tip for keeping automatic transmission (Vario and steermatic) healthy on CNG:-
    Change engine oil at 3,000kms MAX.
    Tranny oil at 30,000kms
    Tune up (throttle and valve clearence) at 20,000kms
    Do NOT ignore idleing problems. Rough idleing means jerks to transmission and thats what kills it on CNG.
    Keep air filter clean and change at 10,000kms max.

    Instrument cluster cleaning DIY
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/d-i...ening-cleaning
    Console box opening and spray painting DIY
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/d-i...-respray-diy-1
    A/c service, the easy way
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/air...ck-c-service-1
    Honda City GTG at kallar kahar
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/get...g-kallar-kahar
    2nd Honda City GTG at kallar kahar
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/get...ar-23-dec-12-a

    Thats all for now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by a_n_memon88 View Post
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    For last two days I am experiencing a strange problem with my friends city its idsi 2005 on CNG. As my friend is not into repairing so it came upon me to repair his car so I took it to my mechanic. I would like to tell you that my friend is also my neighbour and once or twice a week I get to drive his car, to me its perfect. Now let me tell you how it all began. On this Sunday his car was out of gas so he had to start it on petrol, as soon as he did that the car started to phuk phuk like its missing, he drove the car in same condition to his college to take a class on his return he refilled the gas and converted to CNG the car behaved absolutely fine. So now the problem is that the car is as smooth as butter on CNG but pathetic on petrol continuous misfirring. The things done by my mechanic in last 2 days are as follows
    1. Checked the injectors and they are working fine
    2. Checked fuel pump and filter also fine
    3. Checked plugs also fine
    4. Checked tappets also fine
    5. Checked all Coils also fine although he did check them by a tester system not the resistance of each coil but the problem did not solve as he changed the coils
    6. He disconnected CNG kit but problem not resolved
    After all of the above the problem has almost halved 2 days ago it was pathetic although its still pathetic. My mechanic said that run your car on highway at high rpms for 20-30 kms the problem will disappear I did that felt only a slight difference but still it misses. Now I think that mixing about 10 litres of high octane will solve the problem. The other thing he said and that really pissed me off that he will open the entire head and check fuel lines because according to him one cylinder does not work on petrol now that sounds really funny because today i stretched the car till 100 km/hr on petrol on 3rd gear and it was ready for more the engine revs easily till 5000 rpms and more but with phuk phuk. Now if one cylinder is not working how can an engine rev at 5000rpm while its as smooth as you like it on CNG. Second last time he drove the car was a month ago and that too more than 100kms on highway. Please help me as my friend is really worried we are class fellows and currently he has to take lift from me if CNG finishes
    Quote Originally Posted by coolsmart View Post
    in my opinion the problem could be in fuel system i.e fuel pump,filter or injector as neither are used in cng operation. The common things of both cng and petrol are working fine.
    This lil diy exp make sure the map sensor is working or nt.
    one thing u can do is remove the map sensor(its close to throttle wire) ur self from intake top, only one bolt, cover the hole of intake(u may use finger/palm, make sure u dont drop any thing in it) and start it on petrol. if the symptoms u stated in post are different that map should be ok. otherwise map is not working.
    check above on cng as well , but cng may or may not give accurate idea ,depending upon if map is connected to cng emulator or not, but do check.

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    @ Ahmed Bhai

    Thats how the upholstery on my city looks . Got grease all over it while getting the side mirror repaired.
    Will post the results after applying upholstery cleaner tomorrow

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    hey hey.... where did the <owner bhai> aka ahmed bhai go yaar?? i need some help regarding my city...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Imaan1 View Post
    @ Ahmed Bhai

    Thats how the upholstery on my city looks . Got grease all over it while getting the side mirror repaired.
    Will post the results after applying upholstery cleaner tomorrow

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    Oh, the stains look nasty! lets see how well u do with ur upholstery cleaner! i ll do the same with my car tooo...
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    Quote Originally Posted by RollOnBigMaMa View Post
    hey hey.... where did the <owner bhai> aka ahmed bhai go yaar?? i need some help regarding my city...
    Im right here bro... im sorry but i ve my exams in around 40 days, im taking classes 9-6pm 6 days a week...so not getting enough time :/

    please tell me what help u need?
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    Quote Originally Posted by RollOnBigMaMa View Post
    ok bro.. I'll take my car to honda islamabad... and pl let meknow whenever u get some info abt those dirty vents... I talked to mechanic abt them but he said that he would have to open the dash completely,of course, to which i did not consent to...

    I did try cleaning them with cotton swobs/buds... it worked good forme although... grills are clean but the dust beyond them still can be seen...

    I will share some pics of my car with u.....


    as for my 2011 city, I went to

    Tire Size Calculator - tire & wheel plus sizing

    along with several other tire size calculator sites...

    the difference between my size and the stock size was merely 4%. do u think that can be much of a problem?
    Brother 4% is toooo much! anything above 3% or even near that is not recommended! the size that i told u brings the difference down to 0.20% if im not wrong...
    n oh, ur car looks very very clean mashallah... cant see any scratches etc on the surface... n mileage... ur car is the second most driven car in this thread... mine is 207000kms driven now
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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmadbila View Post
    @roll on
    bro theres no way to open the wents! my car's vents are also need cleaning... i ve tried to clean it with different sort of brushes but it didnt work. now im considering to spray WD40 into the vents.i ve never used WD40 before so i dont know if it should be done or not.i ll contact the best detailing guy on pakwheels for asking this one, will let u know.

    As for the mileage of ur car, i ve written a detailed reply above.i think u didnt read it. if the Honda 3S dealers' mechanics are experts, take ur car to them otherwise go to some well reputed mechanic.

    I wont suggest u getting 17 inch rims... stock is 15, dont go for anything more then 16inches.... even thats not needed. 17 inch rims n tires will harm the suspension, ride will be very hard and fuel economy will be worse!
    Still,if u want to go for 17 inches, 195.45.r17 is the size u shud be looking for... 205 is too much!
    Yeh meray liay hai I presume.....janab koi Wd40 nai marna kahin par....ammi ya behen (aaap ki shadi nahin hui warna biwi bhi dal deta is list mai) say chand lamhay baisti karani paray gi buss.....when they arent in the house, get into their make-up stuff an find a mascara brush like the ones pictured below

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    and use them to get between the air vent fins an clean yer ducts......you can use a presoak solution or any other detergent solution you can make.........afterwards dip the brush in dashboard polish an run it through the vents and over the areas where you did cleaning to prevent solution stains........an I`ll remain quiet about the rims for the city............ 225, 40 R18.......was I thinking outloud??
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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmadbila View Post
    Brother 4% is toooo much! anything above 3% or even near that is not recommended! the size that i told u brings the difference down to 0.20% if im not wrong...
    n oh, ur car looks very very clean mashallah... cant see any scratches etc on the surface... n mileage... ur car is the second most driven car in this thread... mine is 207000kms driven now
    Thanks bro... thanks alot.... i think I should probably go for 195/60/R16 then... this is the genuine tyre size on indian city... its difference is abt 1%...

    as for my 04, she has been drive alot but i keep good care of her... thats why u can see that the lights and the body shine, not like genuine, but look 95% new... :-)

    can u show me some pics of ur idsi???

    and the post of another bro on our air vents is useful... i'll try... will search for a similar brush in the market cz i m far away frm having a biwi...

    God bless u and best of luck for ur exams...

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    Salam guys. I have a 2005 Black city . Its really hard to keep it clean & i love keeping my car clean. There are few scratches on the left side doors (front n rear) & on the bumpers too (front and rear) i want them to get painted but a lot of people adviced me not to do so because it will reduce the resale value of car. Im confused! what should i do ? Keep the car as it is in current condition or just get it repainted ?Honda City Fan Club -313891

    OH btw one can see the scratches only in day light ..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jigerstyle View Post
    Salam guys. I have a 2005 Black city . Its really hard to keep it clean & i love keeping my car clean. There are few scratches on the left side doors (front n rear) & on the bumpers too (front and rear) i want them to get painted but a lot of people adviced me not to do so because it will reduce the resale value of car. Im confused! what should i do ? Keep the car as it is in current condition or just get it repainted ?Honda City Fan Club - 313891

    OH btw one can see the scratches only in day light ..
    Mate post some pics of the scratches an we`ll guide you
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    Sorry.. Here are the pictures.. Honda City Fan Club -313919

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    Quote Originally Posted by vague_one View Post
    Yeh meray liay hai I presume.....janab koi Wd40 nai marna kahin par....ammi ya behen (aaap ki shadi nahin hui warna biwi bhi dal deta is list mai) say chand lamhay baisti karani paray gi buss.....when they arent in the house, get into their make-up stuff an find a mascara brush like the ones pictured below

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    and use them to get between the air vent fins an clean yer ducts......you can use a presoak solution or any other detergent solution you can make.........afterwards dip the brush in dashboard polish an run it through the vents and over the areas where you did cleaning to prevent solution stains........an I`ll remain quiet about the rims for the city............ 225, 40 R18.......was I thinking outloud??
    I knew it! I knew it... that usman bhai must ve invented or discovered some sort of brushes for cleaning the vents i wud prefer buying them rather then borrowing them , lakin agar mere room mai say ye daryaaft ho gae tou buht masla hoga... sab puchain *** bata kis k liay liay thay hehehe

    well... usman bhai whats the purpose of WD40... isnt it a water based solution? harmless for paint or polishes surfaces and takes down the dirt... is that right? if so... why cant i use it in the vents? it wud be much easier!!! shed some light please...

    as for the 18s... uff... shukar kia hoga idsi nay jab oskay oversized jootay utray tou
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    Quote Originally Posted by RollOnBigMaMa View Post
    Thanks bro... thanks alot.... i think I should probably go for 195/60/R16 then... this is the genuine tyre size on indian city... its difference is abt 1%...

    as for my 04, she has been drive alot but i keep good care of her... thats why u can see that the lights and the body shine, not like genuine, but look 95% new... :-)

    can u show me some pics of ur idsi???

    and the post of another bro on our air vents is useful... i'll try... will search for a similar brush in the market cz i m far away frm having a biwi...

    God bless u and best of luck for ur exams...
    yup... 16s would be better!
    im amazed to see the condition of ur car even after that much mileage! i wonder how u kept it away from stupid people/drivers who put scratches on others' cars because of their own stuuuupid mistakes! pix of my car are uploaded a few pages back... u can find em there...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jigerstyle View Post
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    get the bumper painted. people usually dont include the bumpers when they say that a car is totally original... theres only one scratch on the door so i would say leave it this way for now... though u can get it painted if u want to, wont really put a huge dent on the resale value of the car.

    a painted door sill is not a good idea... live with it i would say! if its painted and a potential buyer finds it out, he would say that this side is accidented hence the door sill is painted... another thing is that all the 4 door sills will require paint if im not wrong... it wont be wise to paint em... just my 2 cents... let the (vauge_one) get back to answer ur question... hes the one who takes care of paint/detail etc related queries
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    Got the rear four coils changed today and a sensor i think tp sensor i am not sure i have forgot the name. Well it costed me 2000 for the sensor and 8000 for the coils. They are in pristine condition both of these things. I'll post the pictures of both of the things.. And the car was really misbehaving before the tuneup. Was giving jerks and the check lights was constantly on now it wont appear.

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    WD40, i would say its a magic thing, i think its like thinner, may of refined petrol etc.
    Its mainly use to open some very rusty nuts, rusty locks etc etc, that would not open in anyway. For paint it can damage the surface. if ur home doors do cho cho, u can put it in there.

    But i had some very bad experience with it as well. As it penetrates deep, so it can damage the rubber seal

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    my ride after...

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    Quick Query!

    Does the 2002 City exis has a bleeder valve for the cooling system?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmadbila View Post
    yup... 16s would be better!
    im amazed to see the condition of ur car even after that much mileage! i wonder how u kept it away from stupid people/drivers who put scratches on others' cars because of their own stuuuupid mistakes! pix of my car are uploaded a few pages back... u can find em there...
    to tell u what bro, my car just has luck... u'll be surprised that i m the only person in my home to take care of her... my dad drives her daily from home to work and vice versa... I was way from home a few days back and when I got back, i got it serviced after 4 months....!

    I wax her every 4 days and get her washed once in a month...

    i just like to keep all of my cars streaky clean...Now I have a dream to buy a BMW 760Li.... pray for me...

    u have got a nice idsi in there bro... i just love that colour... Have ordered a new 2011 in habanero red pearl... my uncle will get it on wednesday from honda faisalabad motors...

    will be delivered to the nephew; and of course, its loving owner on EID...

    will show u pics thenInshALLAH and seek advice frm u... as i m a novice.. a recent addition to pakwheels...

    yaar the lights on ur baby are a bit fogged... get them cleaned by using a cleaner and then apply STP "sun of a GUN" on them every four to five days if driven like mine, i.e 150 km per day in the dustiest roads of mianwali city...



    thats my secret of keeping the lights healthy even after 7 years of continuous drive...

    hope so, u like it..

    take care bro...

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