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    Default Honda City Fan Club

    (Maintainence schedule added at the end)

    Hi guys..!!! I thought we should have a Fan club for honda city.Theres already a fourm for City but thats dedicated to city steermatic only.in this club,we shall hav steermatic,idsi,cvt nd all models of city and all their variants. Well the history of this car is somewhat like this...


    First generation (1997-2000) On january 22nd 1997,the first Honda City was launched as a sedan.The city was always made for families and not for racing or sports.Thats why they were always equiped with the latest or sometimes firsts in the market.The interior was always very comforting and the seating position is also very comfortable.It had the options of power windows,and side view mirrors for the top model though they were not there in the base model.Power steeing,front seatbelts,digital clock,AC was available in the basic model too.One the outside,it was very elegantly designed.Beautiful,handsome and decent.Under the hood,it had a 1300cc 16valve SOHC engine ,and was the first car to have 16-valve in 1300cc category.


    Second generation (2000-2003) On January 20th 2000, Honda replaced the original City of 1997 with an update.This model of city had the basic shape of its predecessor.but with new crystal head lamps at the front,power side view mirrors and a chrome lining around the rear numberplate garnish.It was the first car in pakistan to have rear crystal headlights.It had two varients. Exi and Exi-s.The Exi had manual windows and side view mirrors,body colored licence plate garnish(not chromed), semi-fabric seat covers, 165/13 tyres,black door mirrors and no high mount stop lamp.But the Exi-s had all these things in it.The outside looked more gracefull with crystal lights and some new lines on the exterior.The engine in both of them were same.But this one had Programed fuel injection(PGM-Fi).There was optional 4-speed automatic transmission available. The engine engine's maximum horse power=90/6400 and maximum torque =11.5/4700 This model was produced until 2003


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    Third generation (2003-2005) On 23rd August 2003, the third-generation Honda City was launched which had a totally new shape.It was a very stylish and aerodynamic shape introduced in pakistan for the first time.It also was the first car to introduce i-dsi (intelligence-dual and sequential ignation) and CVT (continuously variable transmission) in Pakistan.It had an engine which is higly fuel economic and was build specially for better fuel economy.This car was equipped with power windows(pinch free) , power side view mirrors, tilt adjustable steering column and yet another first,the EPS or electriconic power steering.it made the steering very very soft to turn and also it had no oil used in it so it had no maintanence required.Other featrure of this car is that its the first Euro 3 comliant car in pakistan,that means that its very low on harmful emmisions.The EURO 3 emission standard are applicable in Europe from the year 2000, they are considered to be amongst the most strict standards worldwide. The standard limits emissions to 2.1 g/kWh CO, 0.66 g/kWh HC, 5.0 g/kWh NOx, 0.1 g/kWh particles. Another striking feature is, the boot space(400ltrs).it was bigger then any local car availabe at that time.This car was basically meant for families.it had two glove compartments,a big boot,empty space under the rear seats, four glass holders,and also, a smal space provided in the two front doors.And guess what? All of these options were available in the basic version.This city was divided on just the basis of the drive-train.One was manual,and other was automatic. On the outside,this car was designed very sophisticatedly,it looked smaller than other cars in size from outside but is alot more spacious inside.the body design was an immediate hit among fans and poeple who knew somthing about this type of things.Even the side view mirrors are designed to cut through air.


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    Fourth generation (2005-present) In september 2005,the fourth generation City was released.It was basically a face-lifted version on the previous model.it is known as the City ZX in Thailand, India, the New City in Malaysia and City in Pakistan.The most significant changes are a new exterior (new front grille, new headlamps, new fog lights, newtaillights and bumpers). The front end has been extended forward by 65 mm (2.6 in) while the rear has been extended by 15 mm (0.6 in). The VTEC trim have 15 inch alloy wheels as standard equipment. Interior changes are minor but it does include an armrest for the driver.The rest remains almost same as in the previous model. The engine remains the same but the intake manifold has been modified, resulting a 10% temperature drop in the intake air temperature (IAT), the suspension has been upgraded as well. Honda City in Pakistan are using CVT gearbox for both i-DSI and VTEC variants. The CVT-VTEC 1.5L gearbox is equipped with a Simulated 7-Speed Automated Manual Transmission (AMT) using paddle shift buttons. This is very rare for a subcompact of its class.This VTEC variant was called City-steermatic.

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    Steermatic:- The steermatic is basicaly a name of a technology used in the city VTEC 1.5L model.this model had a different engine than the idsi.it had a 1.5L engine with an auto transmission.this was not any other auto transmission.its is steermatic,means that you can change gears just by push of a button on the steering wheel.this is basically used in F1 racing.It has 2 options,either you drive on fully automated CVT option,or you select a virtual manual transmission.For this,you would change the gears when you want with a push of a button.This model also have an opitiron meter and also stock imported 15" alloy rims with bridgestone Potenza tyres. This technology is very sophisticated and advanced,which,sadly was'nt accepted by the buyers in Pakistan because they simply could not understand it and hence,this particular model of city was discontined.


    I-dsi:- I-dsi stands for Intelligence-dual and sequential ignation.In this type of engine,two spark plugs are employed for each cylinder.That makes 8 spark plugs instead of 4 plugs used by most cars.Adding of an additional plug assures complete burning and utilizing the last drop of fuel thrown into the cylinders which would provide you the best performace and better fuel consumption.Not all the times the 8 plugs are working,but when u push your car through high revs or speeds,all of them work simeltaneously and thats when ypu can feel the difference.But theres one drawback in it,this engine is equiped with 8 valves not 16.Hence it decreased the performance and city seems to be out of breath after 5000RPMs,but as this is basically a family car,performance is not the priority.The best thing about this was the fuel economy,about which,you can read the paragraph below.

    Fifth generation (2009 onwards) On 31th january 2009,the fifth generation of the honda City was launched in Pakistan.Which was an immediate hit among the fans.The previous Honda City was criticised due to its shape,but this time the best thing was the shape,which is even more aerodynamic then the previous one and also resembles the big Honda brothers,Civic and Accord.The best thing about the exterior of this City is the front view of the car.The wide,sleek and elegently designed radiator grill gives a refreashing look to the car.The dimesions of the car are almost similar to those of the older model.The sharp lines on the hood gives the city some attitude on the road.The boot space is increased about 25%,from 400ltrs to 506ltrs.But the good news doesnt end there,under the hood,There is a fairly powerful 1.3L SOHC VTEC engine.which produces a healthy 100bhp,enough for a 1.3L car.But dont think that you would have to lose something on the fuel economy side to get this sort of power.The fuel economy is actually improved.Some indian car expert magzines gave the figures of 22km/ltr for the auto transmission,which is the best in its class.The emission standards are improved as well.Previous city was Euro 3 compliant,but the new city is Euro 4 compliant.which means that your car is enviornment friendly.The only thing which you need to be concered about is the interior,which feels abit cramped campared to the previous City,but there is a reason to it.In the pervious city.the hood and the trunk had only a small portion of the exterior length covered,and the cabin was much bigger,which gave nice interior space,but from outside,the car looked ugly to some eyes.To correct this ugliness,the car was redesigned with increased hood and trunk length from outside,this made it look much better but the drawback was the lesser interior space.The second thing was the missing silver portions on the interior bits and panels of the Pakistani City.The interior would have felt lively only if some spots of it would have been in silver color.But you have alot other advantages,like 15" rims,ABS as standard,vtec engine,details of fuel milage on a special screen in the speedometer,huge boot and many other small things. In a nutshel,the new Honda City is much more refined comparitively to the previous one.The basic things which matter alot have been improved like the engine and the exterior design.The ride of the car is also improved,thanks to the small changes in the suspension.All in all,its still a great package if you see it the value-for-money way in Pakistani market atleast.


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    Fuel Consumption:- The 2005 face-lifted Honda City i-DSI achieved an impressive 26.2km per liter of fuel consumption during a challenge in June 2007. The challenge requires the vehicle to be occupied by 4 persons (including the driver), air conditioning being switched on and a load of luggage. The whole route stretched more than 660km that consists of not only highway driving but also hill climbing. ==================================== Source:-My self mostly,wikipedia and Honda atlas.


    In Short:- In short,according to me,all this proves that Honda City has been a great car for a family to have at all times for more than a decade now.It has proven its self to be a complete car one would need at a price tag it is available for.An im one of the thousands of satisfied owners of it for the past one year. Now all we need are your comments and thoughts upon this small wonder.And also do make sure you post some pix of your own city if you have,of any model.Please feel free to express your feelings about this car.

    Maintainence schedule:-

    There have been a lot of queries regarding the maintainence shedule of Honda City. To help find members and guests find this information easily and quickly, i am writing the complete maintainence shedule which i have been following for the past 5 years for my car (180,000kms).Cost of completing the job may/may not be stated. Some of it may not be the same as that in maintainence book provided by Honda people. In that case, i ll state the reason of the difference.Here goes.

    Oils:-
    Havoline formula 10W30 (3.7ltr) and oil filter change @ 3000kms. Cost 1900rs

    Transmission oil (Manual transmission) 2 ltr @ 40,000kms.
    Honda original oil 1980rs (2ltr)
    Good quality Zic/ micking oil 800rs (2ltr)

    Transmission oil ( Automatic transmission) 2lre @ 35,000kms
    Honda CVT oil ONLY (3.2-3.4L.) 1980rs

    Brake oil
    Keep it topped up and change only if padel feels very soft n goes wayy down.
    Honda original oil

    Clutch operation oil
    Keep it topped up and change only if you it shows signs of trouble

    Parts change:-

    Brake pads change:-
    recommended @ 30,000kms
    Can use any good quality pads. (labour 400rs for 4 wheels plus pads, from 500rs to 2500rs)

    Fuel filter change @ 40,000kms (IF driven on petrol)

    Air filter change @ 10,000kms Original Honda filter is best.Good quality guard filter is good too.
    980rs for OEM, 350rs for Guard filter.

    Spark plugs @ 20,000kms Original Honda plugs (8 plugs for idsi. 4 for steermatic, new city ivtec and before-2003 model City)

    Timing belt. Not required. From 2003 onwards, all honda Citys have timing chains instead of belts.They usually last a life time.

    Tune-ups :-

    Throttle body service @ 20,000kms Cost around 500rs
    Tappets adjustment / valve clearence @ 20,000kms Cost around 500rs

    Brake adjustment front not required after pads change. rear @ 30,000kms (or when front pads changed)

    Expected Life of Some parts:-

    Brake pads 35,000kms if driven aggressively ( cost already mentioned)
    Clutch plate 110,000kms if driven aggressively ( around 2000rs labour and 6000rs for clutch+pressure plate)
    Clutch bearing 150,000kms (So change with clutch plate) (800rs)
    Tuneups can be delayed to 30,000kms IF the car is run in clean enviornment like in Islamabad etc (less dust)
    Engine oil change can be delays to 5,000kms but not good in long run.

    Service Manual Honda City ids-i 2003-2008:-
    http://www.putlocker.com/file/CED54F8B8FB00360

    Tip for keeping automatic transmission (Vario and steermatic) healthy on CNG:-
    Change engine oil at 3,000kms MAX.
    Tranny oil at 30,000kms
    Tune up (throttle and valve clearence) at 20,000kms
    Do NOT ignore idleing problems. Rough idleing means jerks to transmission and thats what kills it on CNG.
    Keep air filter clean and change at 10,000kms max.

    Instrument cluster cleaning DIY
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/d-i...ening-cleaning
    Console box opening and spray painting DIY
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/d-i...-respray-diy-1
    A/c service, the easy way
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/air...ck-c-service-1
    Honda City GTG at kallar kahar
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/get...g-kallar-kahar
    2nd Honda City GTG at kallar kahar
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/get...ar-23-dec-12-a

    Thats all for now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RollOnBigMaMa View Post
    I see... I guess u're right. actually,I am notinto much of these engine jobs as I am a person related to medical...

    Just thought may be I could be of any help to u....
    You are studying medical

    BTW

    Tell me the following

    Rpm of your car when you were doing 180km/hr, tires size, tire company and the petrol was it normal or hi-octane

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    Any one having Info about Door Handles & Grill as I think Only Chit Chaat is goin here???
    Pakistan needs MaSsive Over-HAULING!! So either stay or Just Leave it!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skt_Z4 View Post
    Any one having Info about Door Handles & Grill as I think Only Chit Chaat is goin here???
    I dont think you will find them new but search montgomery road in Lahore may be you can find that also try old spare markets such as bilal gunj

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    any one can help me in purchasing second hand car. I m interested in honda city vs suzuki liana model 2005 to 2007 and want to spend upto 800000 rupees. Is Honda city worth buying if I choose 2005 0r 2006 model instead of purchasing liana 2007 or 2008 model. Can any one compare both cars ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skt_Z4 View Post
    Hi FanClub members!
    Can any one tell me Are these available from Pakistan & from where i can get them??

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    Chrome Door Handles

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    i think they'll be hard to find in Pk bro.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by rehan272 View Post
    any one can help me in purchasing second hand car. I m interested in honda city vs suzuki liana model 2005 to 2007 and want to spend upto 800000 rupees. Is Honda city worth buying if I choose 2005 0r 2006 model instead of purchasing liana 2007 or 2008 model. Can any one compare both cars ?
    go for city my bro... u will find honda much much ahead of paksuzuki.

    but it does depend on the cleanliness of the vehicle u get. if u find a liana much cleaner than city, u should go for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by a_n_memon88 View Post
    You are studying medical

    BTW

    Tell me the following

    Rpm of your car when you were doing 180km/hr, tires size, tire company and the petrol was it normal or hi-octane
    yaar, did not check the exact rpm reading. but it was definitely away from 6k, was about 5600 or 5700 RPM.

    fuel was petrol. tire size is 195/60/R15. Yokohama C-drive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by saadnbp View Post
    Hello Guys;
    Can anyone tell me whats the value of Honda City Vario 2004 model. Mine Done only 56000KM and throughout maintined by Honda. Excellent condition. Now, I wnat to sell it and want to go for Civic of same model.

    What you guys suggest, is this a worth shift from city of Civic?...
    yar, i should be around 900k-950k max. and, ummm, depends upon ur driving needs whether its wise to shift from city to civic...
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    Why Honda City pick is too low even Suzuki swift Cut it

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    Just some info to whom it may concern. Went to Gwa dealership today. They have couple of offers that might interest people.
    1. They are offering to clean the interior for 1990 rs.
    2. they are offering to change both bumpers with factory painted ones (that's useless offer) for 10000rs.
    Free offers.
    3. They are changing power windows switch of city 2006-08 for free.
    4. They are changing power steering pipe (i don't know what that is, and not concerned) of civic of 2006-08.
    Thought people might be interested. These offers are from Honda Atlas.

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    Wheel Alignment Explained

    Guys I read this. It says in the "Steering Center" section that factory set cambers are sometimes varied to cater for the road conditions and there is a range of camber.
    Does anyone know the camber range of Honda City 2009 (new shape)?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xaryab View Post
    Just some info to whom it may concern. Went to Gwa dealership today. They have couple of offers that might interest people.
    1. They are offering to clean the interior for 1990 rs.
    2. they are offering to change both bumpers with factory painted ones (that's useless offer) for 10000rs.
    Free offers.
    3. They are changing power windows switch of city 2006-08 for free.
    4. They are changing power steering pipe (i don't know what that is, and not concerned) of civic of 2006-08.
    Thought people might be interested. These offers are from Honda Atlas.
    Yarr!! Ye abi tak Power windows Switch Offer Provide kr rahay hai?

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    Are the Dealerships are Sunday Open!
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    @ Xaryab

    Thank U!! Very much Yarr!! Got Ur Message!
    Pakistan needs MaSsive Over-HAULING!! So either stay or Just Leave it!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by RollOnBigMaMa View Post
    go for city my bro... u will find honda much much ahead of paksuzuki.

    but it does depend on the cleanliness of the vehicle u get. if u find a liana much cleaner than city, u should go for it.
    Thankyou for your guidance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rehan272 View Post
    Thankyou for your guidance.
    Here is the one Gem :

    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/veh...ity-2008-lhr-2

    May be this will help U!
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    Here is some good news for honda owners, I
    capture it specially for this thread. enjoy.



    Honda City Fan Club -358145 Honda City Fan Club - 358146 Honda City Fan Club

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    Sir thats not exactly an upgrade, thats a RECALL... to rectify the faulty power steering feed pipe for civic and power windows switch. If you or anyone u know owns on of those cars listed in the ad, take them to the honda dealership ASAP to avail the free offer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by a_n_memon88 View Post
    Can you ask your mechanic about it as he is your old mechanic and he might tell you that. Today I went to honda stealership as window shopper and asked them about the clearance they said they wont tell that once they do it than they will tell the clearance they set and they will 1000 rs for that I immediately ran out of that dealership. If you can conform valve clearance from your mechanic it will help me greatly because the current issue in my mind is setting the clearance to stock. Its not that my car is giving me problems or something its working great and giving awesome mileage recently did 154 kms in a tank with 8.8 kg of gas in city so just want to take my car back to stock
    Im planning to get brake service on my car so i might visit my mechanic today in an hour or two if i get enough time. i ll ask him for sure. But im almost sure he wont know the figures. these people dont bother what the stock readings are, they just use their experience and adjust according to their own judgement.

    Btw, i'd strongly advice u not to do ANYTHING with ur car if its working fine. you're getting awesome mileage, probably enough performance too, why not just enjoy it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by RollOnBigMaMa View Post
    Hmmm... let me share sumthing abt my city....

    yesterday, I was going to bhakkar in my idsi in a hurry. the MM road was empty as far as my eyes could see... so, I simply pushed the pedal to the medal.

    Was nice to know that she does 160+ on cng like a charm. well, i was at about 170 or 175 when i noticed a strange "tuka tuka" sound from the car.

    I was like .

    I slowed down to 120 immediately. it went away.

    then again accelerated to 160, it started again.

    so, as soon as i reached Bhakkar, I went to a mechanic, a chum of mine.

    He sliiped himself under the car and came out after like 30 seconds, saying...

    "bhai, chimtay aala bush khatam heyee"

    upon hearing the bad news, I became thought may be I had hurt her.

    acha, so I said k bhai, new chimtay daal do phir...

    when I said these words, he looked at me smiling in a "BIG LOL" way as if I had gone mad or I was crazy.

    bola... bhai mere, ye meri cowrolla le jao aur apna kaam kro. shaam ko gaddi le jana.

    I said theek hai bhai...

    meanwhile he fixed my car, i had the pleasure of driving his GLi 09.

    when I went back to him, he told me that he had changed the two bushes of chimtaas and he had greased all of the gadri bushes..

    believe me u guys, when i drove my car, i was like ...

    felt like she had come brand new back in december 2003... I was soooo much happy and came back all the way at an avg spped of 180kmh the whole 200 kms and the whole drive was a complete pleasure...

    BTW, those bushes cost me 600RS for a pair... love my car even more after those bushes...
    damn! 180km/h on idsi! :O slow down sir jeeee... thats too much! Be safe!

    Im glad you got ur cars' chimta bush fixed n u like it, now u can guess how a car feels if complete suspension is changed to brand new i feel that every day
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    Quote Originally Posted by RollOnBigMaMa View Post
    hmmm... congrats ahmad bhai... so, do u feel any noticeable change in the drive???

    and yawr, , aap apni city ki pics share karney me kanjoosi se kaam lete hain...

    the thread was to be a bit red bhai... post some new pics of ur idsi...
    yaaaaaaaarrrr.... kia bataon the wax that i bought from lahore on the 20th of last month is still not been applied to the paint.i ve to get part of the bumper resprayed, then have to get the whole car compound polished and then the turtle wax applied! n the situation is that yesterday, my car traveled 78kms from morning to evening, inside city, no outstation trip. and you know sargodha is a very very small city... so, i dont get time to get all that done...
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