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    Default Honda City Fan Club

    (Maintainence schedule added at the end)

    Hi guys..!!! I thought we should have a Fan club for honda city.Theres already a fourm for City but thats dedicated to city steermatic only.in this club,we shall hav steermatic,idsi,cvt nd all models of city and all their variants. Well the history of this car is somewhat like this...


    First generation (1997-2000) On january 22nd 1997,the first Honda City was launched as a sedan.The city was always made for families and not for racing or sports.Thats why they were always equiped with the latest or sometimes firsts in the market.The interior was always very comforting and the seating position is also very comfortable.It had the options of power windows,and side view mirrors for the top model though they were not there in the base model.Power steeing,front seatbelts,digital clock,AC was available in the basic model too.One the outside,it was very elegantly designed.Beautiful,handsome and decent.Under the hood,it had a 1300cc 16valve SOHC engine ,and was the first car to have 16-valve in 1300cc category.


    Second generation (2000-2003) On January 20th 2000, Honda replaced the original City of 1997 with an update.This model of city had the basic shape of its predecessor.but with new crystal head lamps at the front,power side view mirrors and a chrome lining around the rear numberplate garnish.It was the first car in pakistan to have rear crystal headlights.It had two varients. Exi and Exi-s.The Exi had manual windows and side view mirrors,body colored licence plate garnish(not chromed), semi-fabric seat covers, 165/13 tyres,black door mirrors and no high mount stop lamp.But the Exi-s had all these things in it.The outside looked more gracefull with crystal lights and some new lines on the exterior.The engine in both of them were same.But this one had Programed fuel injection(PGM-Fi).There was optional 4-speed automatic transmission available. The engine engine's maximum horse power=90/6400 and maximum torque =11.5/4700 This model was produced until 2003


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    Third generation (2003-2005) On 23rd August 2003, the third-generation Honda City was launched which had a totally new shape.It was a very stylish and aerodynamic shape introduced in pakistan for the first time.It also was the first car to introduce i-dsi (intelligence-dual and sequential ignation) and CVT (continuously variable transmission) in Pakistan.It had an engine which is higly fuel economic and was build specially for better fuel economy.This car was equipped with power windows(pinch free) , power side view mirrors, tilt adjustable steering column and yet another first,the EPS or electriconic power steering.it made the steering very very soft to turn and also it had no oil used in it so it had no maintanence required.Other featrure of this car is that its the first Euro 3 comliant car in pakistan,that means that its very low on harmful emmisions.The EURO 3 emission standard are applicable in Europe from the year 2000, they are considered to be amongst the most strict standards worldwide. The standard limits emissions to 2.1 g/kWh CO, 0.66 g/kWh HC, 5.0 g/kWh NOx, 0.1 g/kWh particles. Another striking feature is, the boot space(400ltrs).it was bigger then any local car availabe at that time.This car was basically meant for families.it had two glove compartments,a big boot,empty space under the rear seats, four glass holders,and also, a smal space provided in the two front doors.And guess what? All of these options were available in the basic version.This city was divided on just the basis of the drive-train.One was manual,and other was automatic. On the outside,this car was designed very sophisticatedly,it looked smaller than other cars in size from outside but is alot more spacious inside.the body design was an immediate hit among fans and poeple who knew somthing about this type of things.Even the side view mirrors are designed to cut through air.


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    Fourth generation (2005-present) In september 2005,the fourth generation City was released.It was basically a face-lifted version on the previous model.it is known as the City ZX in Thailand, India, the New City in Malaysia and City in Pakistan.The most significant changes are a new exterior (new front grille, new headlamps, new fog lights, newtaillights and bumpers). The front end has been extended forward by 65 mm (2.6 in) while the rear has been extended by 15 mm (0.6 in). The VTEC trim have 15 inch alloy wheels as standard equipment. Interior changes are minor but it does include an armrest for the driver.The rest remains almost same as in the previous model. The engine remains the same but the intake manifold has been modified, resulting a 10% temperature drop in the intake air temperature (IAT), the suspension has been upgraded as well. Honda City in Pakistan are using CVT gearbox for both i-DSI and VTEC variants. The CVT-VTEC 1.5L gearbox is equipped with a Simulated 7-Speed Automated Manual Transmission (AMT) using paddle shift buttons. This is very rare for a subcompact of its class.This VTEC variant was called City-steermatic.

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    Steermatic:- The steermatic is basicaly a name of a technology used in the city VTEC 1.5L model.this model had a different engine than the idsi.it had a 1.5L engine with an auto transmission.this was not any other auto transmission.its is steermatic,means that you can change gears just by push of a button on the steering wheel.this is basically used in F1 racing.It has 2 options,either you drive on fully automated CVT option,or you select a virtual manual transmission.For this,you would change the gears when you want with a push of a button.This model also have an opitiron meter and also stock imported 15" alloy rims with bridgestone Potenza tyres. This technology is very sophisticated and advanced,which,sadly was'nt accepted by the buyers in Pakistan because they simply could not understand it and hence,this particular model of city was discontined.


    I-dsi:- I-dsi stands for Intelligence-dual and sequential ignation.In this type of engine,two spark plugs are employed for each cylinder.That makes 8 spark plugs instead of 4 plugs used by most cars.Adding of an additional plug assures complete burning and utilizing the last drop of fuel thrown into the cylinders which would provide you the best performace and better fuel consumption.Not all the times the 8 plugs are working,but when u push your car through high revs or speeds,all of them work simeltaneously and thats when ypu can feel the difference.But theres one drawback in it,this engine is equiped with 8 valves not 16.Hence it decreased the performance and city seems to be out of breath after 5000RPMs,but as this is basically a family car,performance is not the priority.The best thing about this was the fuel economy,about which,you can read the paragraph below.

    Fifth generation (2009 onwards) On 31th january 2009,the fifth generation of the honda City was launched in Pakistan.Which was an immediate hit among the fans.The previous Honda City was criticised due to its shape,but this time the best thing was the shape,which is even more aerodynamic then the previous one and also resembles the big Honda brothers,Civic and Accord.The best thing about the exterior of this City is the front view of the car.The wide,sleek and elegently designed radiator grill gives a refreashing look to the car.The dimesions of the car are almost similar to those of the older model.The sharp lines on the hood gives the city some attitude on the road.The boot space is increased about 25%,from 400ltrs to 506ltrs.But the good news doesnt end there,under the hood,There is a fairly powerful 1.3L SOHC VTEC engine.which produces a healthy 100bhp,enough for a 1.3L car.But dont think that you would have to lose something on the fuel economy side to get this sort of power.The fuel economy is actually improved.Some indian car expert magzines gave the figures of 22km/ltr for the auto transmission,which is the best in its class.The emission standards are improved as well.Previous city was Euro 3 compliant,but the new city is Euro 4 compliant.which means that your car is enviornment friendly.The only thing which you need to be concered about is the interior,which feels abit cramped campared to the previous City,but there is a reason to it.In the pervious city.the hood and the trunk had only a small portion of the exterior length covered,and the cabin was much bigger,which gave nice interior space,but from outside,the car looked ugly to some eyes.To correct this ugliness,the car was redesigned with increased hood and trunk length from outside,this made it look much better but the drawback was the lesser interior space.The second thing was the missing silver portions on the interior bits and panels of the Pakistani City.The interior would have felt lively only if some spots of it would have been in silver color.But you have alot other advantages,like 15" rims,ABS as standard,vtec engine,details of fuel milage on a special screen in the speedometer,huge boot and many other small things. In a nutshel,the new Honda City is much more refined comparitively to the previous one.The basic things which matter alot have been improved like the engine and the exterior design.The ride of the car is also improved,thanks to the small changes in the suspension.All in all,its still a great package if you see it the value-for-money way in Pakistani market atleast.


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    Fuel Consumption:- The 2005 face-lifted Honda City i-DSI achieved an impressive 26.2km per liter of fuel consumption during a challenge in June 2007. The challenge requires the vehicle to be occupied by 4 persons (including the driver), air conditioning being switched on and a load of luggage. The whole route stretched more than 660km that consists of not only highway driving but also hill climbing. ==================================== Source:-My self mostly,wikipedia and Honda atlas.


    In Short:- In short,according to me,all this proves that Honda City has been a great car for a family to have at all times for more than a decade now.It has proven its self to be a complete car one would need at a price tag it is available for.An im one of the thousands of satisfied owners of it for the past one year. Now all we need are your comments and thoughts upon this small wonder.And also do make sure you post some pix of your own city if you have,of any model.Please feel free to express your feelings about this car.

    Maintainence schedule:-

    There have been a lot of queries regarding the maintainence shedule of Honda City. To help find members and guests find this information easily and quickly, i am writing the complete maintainence shedule which i have been following for the past 5 years for my car (180,000kms).Cost of completing the job may/may not be stated. Some of it may not be the same as that in maintainence book provided by Honda people. In that case, i ll state the reason of the difference.Here goes.

    Oils:-
    Havoline formula 10W30 (3.7ltr) and oil filter change @ 3000kms. Cost 1900rs

    Transmission oil (Manual transmission) 2 ltr @ 40,000kms.
    Honda original oil 1980rs (2ltr)
    Good quality Zic/ micking oil 800rs (2ltr)

    Transmission oil ( Automatic transmission) 2lre @ 35,000kms
    Honda CVT oil ONLY (3.2-3.4L.) 1980rs

    Brake oil
    Keep it topped up and change only if padel feels very soft n goes wayy down.
    Honda original oil

    Clutch operation oil
    Keep it topped up and change only if you it shows signs of trouble

    Parts change:-

    Brake pads change:-
    recommended @ 30,000kms
    Can use any good quality pads. (labour 400rs for 4 wheels plus pads, from 500rs to 2500rs)

    Fuel filter change @ 40,000kms (IF driven on petrol)

    Air filter change @ 10,000kms Original Honda filter is best.Good quality guard filter is good too.
    980rs for OEM, 350rs for Guard filter.

    Spark plugs @ 20,000kms Original Honda plugs (8 plugs for idsi. 4 for steermatic, new city ivtec and before-2003 model City)

    Timing belt. Not required. From 2003 onwards, all honda Citys have timing chains instead of belts.They usually last a life time.

    Tune-ups :-

    Throttle body service @ 20,000kms Cost around 500rs
    Tappets adjustment / valve clearence @ 20,000kms Cost around 500rs

    Brake adjustment front not required after pads change. rear @ 30,000kms (or when front pads changed)

    Expected Life of Some parts:-

    Brake pads 35,000kms if driven aggressively ( cost already mentioned)
    Clutch plate 110,000kms if driven aggressively ( around 2000rs labour and 6000rs for clutch+pressure plate)
    Clutch bearing 150,000kms (So change with clutch plate) (800rs)
    Tuneups can be delayed to 30,000kms IF the car is run in clean enviornment like in Islamabad etc (less dust)
    Engine oil change can be delays to 5,000kms but not good in long run.

    Service Manual Honda City ids-i 2003-2008:-
    http://www.putlocker.com/file/CED54F8B8FB00360

    Tip for keeping automatic transmission (Vario and steermatic) healthy on CNG:-
    Change engine oil at 3,000kms MAX.
    Tranny oil at 30,000kms
    Tune up (throttle and valve clearence) at 20,000kms
    Do NOT ignore idleing problems. Rough idleing means jerks to transmission and thats what kills it on CNG.
    Keep air filter clean and change at 10,000kms max.

    Instrument cluster cleaning DIY
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/d-i...ening-cleaning
    Console box opening and spray painting DIY
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/d-i...-respray-diy-1
    A/c service, the easy way
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/air...ck-c-service-1
    Honda City GTG at kallar kahar
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/get...g-kallar-kahar
    2nd Honda City GTG at kallar kahar
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/get...ar-23-dec-12-a

    Thats all for now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aqgmbest View Post
    Hi guys today i changed foundation and wheel bearings of my city which took almost 4 hour. Now some details

    There were total 4 foundations changed all of them

    1.FOUNDATION THAILAND Price 1700.
    2.Foundation thailand price 1500
    3. Foundation thailand price 1500
    4. Foundation thailand price 1500

    Wheel barings original japan made price 3700 for complete set for front wheels.

    Brake pad malaysian price 800

    Body to engine water pipe set price 1200 .

    Radiator complete service for Rs.400

    Rear garnish window cover 350
    Labour Rs 2000.

    Work for tomorrow will replace back shockers inshallah.
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    nice... very nice job done... 1500rs for 3 foundations and 1700rs for another one? which one is this? my car also needs foundation, atleast one of them. the one at the extreme right of the gearbox. its almost completely dead now. will also check the other three. and btw, have u felt any change in the vibrations entering the cabin after changing foundations?
    and the rear window garnish, is this that black triangular thing in the rear windows?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmadbila View Post
    nice... very nice job done... 1500rs for 3 foundations and 1700rs for another one? which one is this? my car also needs foundation, atleast one of them. the one at the extreme right of the gearbox. its almost completely dead now. will also check the other three. and btw, have u felt any change in the vibrations entering the cabin after changing foundations?
    and the rear window garnish, is this that black triangular thing in the rear windows?
    Thanks bro i think your foundation will be of 1500 rs. And yes window garnish is the same thing u talkin about. all the vibrations are gone now em having 0% engine noise in cabin now Mashallah completely satisfied with my foundations now

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    Another update! Today i manage to get and change my citys new rear suspension springs which cost me 2500rs and labour 300.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mahmood View Post
    brother welcome to pw,

    i am also owner of 2000 EXi same as that of you want to purchase, first of all keeping a 12 odd years old car is completely differnet from owning a 4 year old car, there will be few things you will always be living with just being an old equipment. second what i have learnt is that if you are able to fiddle around small things in your car yourslef you will be very much happy person with your car, any car i would say, about maintenance, yes parts will be expensive when you need it, though they will be available with relative ease. once you have brought car to your satisfaction level i dont think that you will be to workshop often, but when you do single ball joint will cost you around 2000. if you plan to go for this model make sure wiring is not played with coz this thing will keep you in trouble for ever, if its a neat clean car with engine in good condition for over a year to come considering your utilization and if demands like 30-40k after purchase in immediate maintenance, and if body is not rusted i think its still a good machine to go with.

    and at the end if you go for for it, turst my words you gonna love her
    dear mahmood,

    thanks a lot brother for your valuable suggestions, brother what do you mean by wires, as its gonna to be my first experience in car, i haven't own any car yet, so please quote what will be the price for this model, below is the link i am pasting, please check the car

    Used Honda City 2001 for sale in Lahore - Ad ID: 345063 | PakWheels

    thanks again brother, also please tell me more, what i can check with the car as i will check it with my office driver.

    thanks alot.
    bye

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    Quote Originally Posted by fahadwizz View Post
    If acquired in decent condition, its a great car. Maintenance is easy and nominal, its a pretty robust car. Go ahead!
    thanks dude....... please explain little that what should be the decent condition.

    thanks brother

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    Quote Originally Posted by aqgmbest View Post
    Another update! Today i manage to get and change my citys new rear suspension springs which cost me 2500rs and labour 300.

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    Did you replace with new or kabli?

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    hazraat, an inside source from honda has told me that in the coming six months or sooner the facelift model of city will be launched, the dash will be a little greyish, the side mirrors will have indicators and there is also a chance that tail lights will be changed however the basic shape will remain the same.

    note that this info is not final it might change

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    Quote Originally Posted by margallar View Post
    hazraat, an inside source from honda has told me that in the coming six months or sooner the facelift model of city will be launched, the dash will be a little greyish, the side mirrors will have indicators and there is also a chance that tail lights will be changed however the basic shape will remain the same.

    note that this info is not final it might change
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    Quote Originally Posted by rfawad19 View Post
    Hi
    I have honda city 2004 iDsi White Color. My 3 door seals are open.What can be done to close it.should i change the door what is its cost.Because it lowered my car price 75 thousand.
    I see that this issue has so far not been addressed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aqgmbest View Post
    Hi guys today i changed foundation and wheel bearings of my city which took almost 4 hour. Now some details

    There were total 4 foundations changed all of them

    1.FOUNDATION THAILAND Price 1700.
    2.Foundation thailand price 1500
    3. Foundation thailand price 1500
    4. Foundation thailand price 1500

    Wheel barings original japan made price 3700 for complete set for front wheels.

    Brake pad malaysian price 800

    Body to engine water pipe set price 1200 .

    Radiator complete service for Rs.400

    Rear garnish window cover 350
    Labour Rs 2000.

    Work for tomorrow will replace back shockers inshallah.
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    From where did you get all these parts?
    I own city 2004 and recently I discovered that one of the pipe that throws water pressure to engine is leaking. I got it replaced by a desi pipe but the mechanic was saying you have to put in the original one, and you will find it from Bilal Ganj. I also went to Honda but they said that this pipe is not in their stock and we have to order it. Don't know how much it cost from them.
    Any ideas?

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    Quote Originally Posted by comp678 View Post
    dear mahmood,

    thanks a lot brother for your valuable suggestions, brother what do you mean by wires, as its gonna to be my first experience in car, i haven't own any car yet, so please quote what will be the price for this model, below is the link i am pasting, please check the car

    Used Honda City 2001 for sale in Lahore - Ad ID: 345063 | PakWheels

    thanks again brother, also please tell me more, what i can check with the car as i will check it with my office driver.

    thanks alot.
    bye
    i mentioned wiring being not played with, lemme explain, we very happily add subs and amps and external rpm meters, push start buttons, after market central locking and bla bla to make our ride more cool all this screws original wiring and thats really really bad in my opinion.

    if its gonna be your first car, honestly i would say dont go for a big car, start with some alto sorta thing and then after a year go for a big car, you can understand why i said that and thats real.

    now to the add you mentioned, my first look at the add and the price asked, my immediate response was therez gotta be something with this car else no body asks this much for this car and and on top of that its negotiable, the owner is gonna kill me but let me there are few things i saw in the engine bay pic and i wanna share with you


    * alignment of headlights is not right, lights are sticking out of bumper
    * radiator is not that of honda
    * top front gardree seems to be dented
    * duplicate book

    i would say no.

    what you need to check, its a long long list but do check all electrical should be working, AC working heater working, tyres should be good, no rust on under body, mechanical sound condition, no noises in drive, no vibration in steering, gear shifting should be smooth and ...............

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    Quote Originally Posted by margallar View Post
    kisi nai nayi leni ho toh sabar karay

    meray kam da ki bana
    kuj v nahi, mousam itna romantic hai idhr k aap k kaam ka tu khayal hi nahi aaya, waise bhi abhi due date mein kaafi din hain

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    chalain thek hai, mai khwab dekh k hi khush hn

    youd better come here with a degreased engine

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    what do you mean i come here with a degreased engine bay, i will coming there with that raakit fuel you gave me, awwwwwwwww yaad aaya tussi isb aa rahe si feb vich, uss program ka kia bana, you will be giving my city degreasing session and ofcourse that rotary buffer polishing or whatever you call it,

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    ok ill contact vague one for the rotary buffer compounding (though i dont really think your car actually needs it except the painted regions , ill be waxing the car with my hands with the gold class (thats in case you bring it ). degreasing, sure ill do it for you. paint work done?

    hazraat federal goverment nai meray islamabad k doray k khilaf propoganda shuru krdia hai, exit control list pe mera nam hai, aur wesay hi khaption wali parhai routine mainay shuru krdi hai

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    iss ka matlab no waxing for my car koi nahi fir sahi not painted, painter was just about to mix the paint when called it off and off she went to fsd.

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    no waxing is still on, compounding with a rotary buffer means cutting the paint, waxing just gives protection and masks defects, ill do that in any case, i am against compound because you know the paint health of ur car e.g the edge of the trunk. it will make the paint too thin, waxing is best for its health

    compound is only for the parts that you get painted, baki baat msgs mai mere cell par, number on hai

    wax is like what you do to your car with autoshine, the only difference is that a good wax wont eat ur paint

    in simple words

    wax= going to do it in any case
    compound = depends on factors like the mood of the senior detailer and the condition of ur paint

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    i'll go to uni on monday, on my way back i'll drop by the spot for stuff, but do keep your fingers crossed

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