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    Default Honda City Fan Club

    (Maintainence schedule added at the end)

    Hi guys..!!! I thought we should have a Fan club for honda city.Theres already a fourm for City but thats dedicated to city steermatic only.in this club,we shall hav steermatic,idsi,cvt nd all models of city and all their variants. Well the history of this car is somewhat like this...


    First generation (1997-2000) On january 22nd 1997,the first Honda City was launched as a sedan.The city was always made for families and not for racing or sports.Thats why they were always equiped with the latest or sometimes firsts in the market.The interior was always very comforting and the seating position is also very comfortable.It had the options of power windows,and side view mirrors for the top model though they were not there in the base model.Power steeing,front seatbelts,digital clock,AC was available in the basic model too.One the outside,it was very elegantly designed.Beautiful,handsome and decent.Under the hood,it had a 1300cc 16valve SOHC engine ,and was the first car to have 16-valve in 1300cc category.


    Second generation (2000-2003) On January 20th 2000, Honda replaced the original City of 1997 with an update.This model of city had the basic shape of its predecessor.but with new crystal head lamps at the front,power side view mirrors and a chrome lining around the rear numberplate garnish.It was the first car in pakistan to have rear crystal headlights.It had two varients. Exi and Exi-s.The Exi had manual windows and side view mirrors,body colored licence plate garnish(not chromed), semi-fabric seat covers, 165/13 tyres,black door mirrors and no high mount stop lamp.But the Exi-s had all these things in it.The outside looked more gracefull with crystal lights and some new lines on the exterior.The engine in both of them were same.But this one had Programed fuel injection(PGM-Fi).There was optional 4-speed automatic transmission available. The engine engine's maximum horse power=90/6400 and maximum torque =11.5/4700 This model was produced until 2003


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    Third generation (2003-2005) On 23rd August 2003, the third-generation Honda City was launched which had a totally new shape.It was a very stylish and aerodynamic shape introduced in pakistan for the first time.It also was the first car to introduce i-dsi (intelligence-dual and sequential ignation) and CVT (continuously variable transmission) in Pakistan.It had an engine which is higly fuel economic and was build specially for better fuel economy.This car was equipped with power windows(pinch free) , power side view mirrors, tilt adjustable steering column and yet another first,the EPS or electriconic power steering.it made the steering very very soft to turn and also it had no oil used in it so it had no maintanence required.Other featrure of this car is that its the first Euro 3 comliant car in pakistan,that means that its very low on harmful emmisions.The EURO 3 emission standard are applicable in Europe from the year 2000, they are considered to be amongst the most strict standards worldwide. The standard limits emissions to 2.1 g/kWh CO, 0.66 g/kWh HC, 5.0 g/kWh NOx, 0.1 g/kWh particles. Another striking feature is, the boot space(400ltrs).it was bigger then any local car availabe at that time.This car was basically meant for families.it had two glove compartments,a big boot,empty space under the rear seats, four glass holders,and also, a smal space provided in the two front doors.And guess what? All of these options were available in the basic version.This city was divided on just the basis of the drive-train.One was manual,and other was automatic. On the outside,this car was designed very sophisticatedly,it looked smaller than other cars in size from outside but is alot more spacious inside.the body design was an immediate hit among fans and poeple who knew somthing about this type of things.Even the side view mirrors are designed to cut through air.


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    Fourth generation (2005-present) In september 2005,the fourth generation City was released.It was basically a face-lifted version on the previous model.it is known as the City ZX in Thailand, India, the New City in Malaysia and City in Pakistan.The most significant changes are a new exterior (new front grille, new headlamps, new fog lights, newtaillights and bumpers). The front end has been extended forward by 65 mm (2.6 in) while the rear has been extended by 15 mm (0.6 in). The VTEC trim have 15 inch alloy wheels as standard equipment. Interior changes are minor but it does include an armrest for the driver.The rest remains almost same as in the previous model. The engine remains the same but the intake manifold has been modified, resulting a 10% temperature drop in the intake air temperature (IAT), the suspension has been upgraded as well. Honda City in Pakistan are using CVT gearbox for both i-DSI and VTEC variants. The CVT-VTEC 1.5L gearbox is equipped with a Simulated 7-Speed Automated Manual Transmission (AMT) using paddle shift buttons. This is very rare for a subcompact of its class.This VTEC variant was called City-steermatic.

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    Steermatic:- The steermatic is basicaly a name of a technology used in the city VTEC 1.5L model.this model had a different engine than the idsi.it had a 1.5L engine with an auto transmission.this was not any other auto transmission.its is steermatic,means that you can change gears just by push of a button on the steering wheel.this is basically used in F1 racing.It has 2 options,either you drive on fully automated CVT option,or you select a virtual manual transmission.For this,you would change the gears when you want with a push of a button.This model also have an opitiron meter and also stock imported 15" alloy rims with bridgestone Potenza tyres. This technology is very sophisticated and advanced,which,sadly was'nt accepted by the buyers in Pakistan because they simply could not understand it and hence,this particular model of city was discontined.


    I-dsi:- I-dsi stands for Intelligence-dual and sequential ignation.In this type of engine,two spark plugs are employed for each cylinder.That makes 8 spark plugs instead of 4 plugs used by most cars.Adding of an additional plug assures complete burning and utilizing the last drop of fuel thrown into the cylinders which would provide you the best performace and better fuel consumption.Not all the times the 8 plugs are working,but when u push your car through high revs or speeds,all of them work simeltaneously and thats when ypu can feel the difference.But theres one drawback in it,this engine is equiped with 8 valves not 16.Hence it decreased the performance and city seems to be out of breath after 5000RPMs,but as this is basically a family car,performance is not the priority.The best thing about this was the fuel economy,about which,you can read the paragraph below.

    Fifth generation (2009 onwards) On 31th january 2009,the fifth generation of the honda City was launched in Pakistan.Which was an immediate hit among the fans.The previous Honda City was criticised due to its shape,but this time the best thing was the shape,which is even more aerodynamic then the previous one and also resembles the big Honda brothers,Civic and Accord.The best thing about the exterior of this City is the front view of the car.The wide,sleek and elegently designed radiator grill gives a refreashing look to the car.The dimesions of the car are almost similar to those of the older model.The sharp lines on the hood gives the city some attitude on the road.The boot space is increased about 25%,from 400ltrs to 506ltrs.But the good news doesnt end there,under the hood,There is a fairly powerful 1.3L SOHC VTEC engine.which produces a healthy 100bhp,enough for a 1.3L car.But dont think that you would have to lose something on the fuel economy side to get this sort of power.The fuel economy is actually improved.Some indian car expert magzines gave the figures of 22km/ltr for the auto transmission,which is the best in its class.The emission standards are improved as well.Previous city was Euro 3 compliant,but the new city is Euro 4 compliant.which means that your car is enviornment friendly.The only thing which you need to be concered about is the interior,which feels abit cramped campared to the previous City,but there is a reason to it.In the pervious city.the hood and the trunk had only a small portion of the exterior length covered,and the cabin was much bigger,which gave nice interior space,but from outside,the car looked ugly to some eyes.To correct this ugliness,the car was redesigned with increased hood and trunk length from outside,this made it look much better but the drawback was the lesser interior space.The second thing was the missing silver portions on the interior bits and panels of the Pakistani City.The interior would have felt lively only if some spots of it would have been in silver color.But you have alot other advantages,like 15" rims,ABS as standard,vtec engine,details of fuel milage on a special screen in the speedometer,huge boot and many other small things. In a nutshel,the new Honda City is much more refined comparitively to the previous one.The basic things which matter alot have been improved like the engine and the exterior design.The ride of the car is also improved,thanks to the small changes in the suspension.All in all,its still a great package if you see it the value-for-money way in Pakistani market atleast.


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    Fuel Consumption:- The 2005 face-lifted Honda City i-DSI achieved an impressive 26.2km per liter of fuel consumption during a challenge in June 2007. The challenge requires the vehicle to be occupied by 4 persons (including the driver), air conditioning being switched on and a load of luggage. The whole route stretched more than 660km that consists of not only highway driving but also hill climbing. ==================================== Source:-My self mostly,wikipedia and Honda atlas.


    In Short:- In short,according to me,all this proves that Honda City has been a great car for a family to have at all times for more than a decade now.It has proven its self to be a complete car one would need at a price tag it is available for.An im one of the thousands of satisfied owners of it for the past one year. Now all we need are your comments and thoughts upon this small wonder.And also do make sure you post some pix of your own city if you have,of any model.Please feel free to express your feelings about this car.

    Maintainence schedule:-

    There have been a lot of queries regarding the maintainence shedule of Honda City. To help find members and guests find this information easily and quickly, i am writing the complete maintainence shedule which i have been following for the past 5 years for my car (180,000kms).Cost of completing the job may/may not be stated. Some of it may not be the same as that in maintainence book provided by Honda people. In that case, i ll state the reason of the difference.Here goes.

    Oils:-
    Havoline formula 10W30 (3.7ltr) and oil filter change @ 3000kms. Cost 1900rs

    Transmission oil (Manual transmission) 2 ltr @ 40,000kms.
    Honda original oil 1980rs (2ltr)
    Good quality Zic/ micking oil 800rs (2ltr)

    Transmission oil ( Automatic transmission) 2lre @ 35,000kms
    Honda CVT oil ONLY (3.2-3.4L.) 1980rs

    Brake oil
    Keep it topped up and change only if padel feels very soft n goes wayy down.
    Honda original oil

    Clutch operation oil
    Keep it topped up and change only if you it shows signs of trouble

    Parts change:-

    Brake pads change:-
    recommended @ 30,000kms
    Can use any good quality pads. (labour 400rs for 4 wheels plus pads, from 500rs to 2500rs)

    Fuel filter change @ 40,000kms (IF driven on petrol)

    Air filter change @ 10,000kms Original Honda filter is best.Good quality guard filter is good too.
    980rs for OEM, 350rs for Guard filter.

    Spark plugs @ 20,000kms Original Honda plugs (8 plugs for idsi. 4 for steermatic, new city ivtec and before-2003 model City)

    Timing belt. Not required. From 2003 onwards, all honda Citys have timing chains instead of belts.They usually last a life time.

    Tune-ups :-

    Throttle body service @ 20,000kms Cost around 500rs
    Tappets adjustment / valve clearence @ 20,000kms Cost around 500rs

    Brake adjustment front not required after pads change. rear @ 30,000kms (or when front pads changed)

    Expected Life of Some parts:-

    Brake pads 35,000kms if driven aggressively ( cost already mentioned)
    Clutch plate 110,000kms if driven aggressively ( around 2000rs labour and 6000rs for clutch+pressure plate)
    Clutch bearing 150,000kms (So change with clutch plate) (800rs)
    Tuneups can be delayed to 30,000kms IF the car is run in clean enviornment like in Islamabad etc (less dust)
    Engine oil change can be delays to 5,000kms but not good in long run.

    Service Manual Honda City ids-i 2003-2008:-
    http://www.putlocker.com/file/CED54F8B8FB00360

    Tip for keeping automatic transmission (Vario and steermatic) healthy on CNG:-
    Change engine oil at 3,000kms MAX.
    Tranny oil at 30,000kms
    Tune up (throttle and valve clearence) at 20,000kms
    Do NOT ignore idleing problems. Rough idleing means jerks to transmission and thats what kills it on CNG.
    Keep air filter clean and change at 10,000kms max.

    Instrument cluster cleaning DIY
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/d-i...ening-cleaning
    Console box opening and spray painting DIY
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/d-i...-respray-diy-1
    A/c service, the easy way
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/air...ck-c-service-1
    Honda City GTG at kallar kahar
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/get...g-kallar-kahar
    2nd Honda City GTG at kallar kahar
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/get...ar-23-dec-12-a

    Thats all for now.
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    Well you have to be extra cautious when putting back the screws. One of the screws went in such a corner that I had to open back the entire meter, the other went in steering cover so had to open that as well so I can say be very careful Honda City Fan Club -368004

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    @a.n.memon, yaar very well done bro... U've solved a MYSTERY here... BTW, tell me one thing, are those silver rings fitted only by CLIPS???

    And once u open the meter, do you have somehow access to the meter backlighting??? i mean, If may be some how one can clean and replace the bulbs in it???

    and the video u asked for, i am gonna post a link....
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    Quote Originally Posted by RollOnBigMaMa View Post
    @a.n.memon, yaar very well done bro... U've solved a MYSTERY here... BTW, tell me one thing, are those silver rings fitted only by CLIPS???

    And once u open the meter, do you have somehow access to the meter backlighting??? i mean, If may be some how one can clean and replace the bulbs in it???

    and the video u asked for, i am gonna post a link....
    Yes there are only 4 clips I think that hold those silver rings, the screws are only visible and accessible once you take off the silver rings.

    I did not open the meter I just took off the plastic cover, The inside of meter can be opened by some locks and screws but I was extra cautious not to even touch inside of the meter because once I touched the meter of nissan sunny and its speedo had a an error it used to show 50 when I was doing around 35-40 and needle wouldnot stabilize, so in this case didnot want to disturb that. BTW I just went out in my car and believe me after cleaning just the lense and the dial the lights are as much as 20% and meter is looking great, So I would say dont open the meter area unless you are sure what you are doing

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    well can someone here tell me from where i can buy honda city 2009 armrest genuine in RWP/ISB, excluding dealerships.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmadbila View Post
    Okay so guys, i ve a good new and a bad news regarding my car...

    The good news is that today, i FINALLY got time for compound polish and turtle color magic wax application. took me a total of 3hrs (and a shattered spine, just by standing for that long) for a body wash and compound polish + wax job.
    results is AWESOME... i love the silky smooth feeling of the body now. shine is also very nice but i couldnt really witness it as it was dark by the time we waxed it. and that is why im not posting any pictures right now
    In a day or two i ll wash the car and will wax it again... and then again after a week and then every week for the next 4-5 times ... only then will it retain the shine for a long time...

    and now, the BAD news... i got a small dent today on the newly painted right rear door
    i was in a decently wide steet, 2 car were parked on either side with just one car gap in the middle to pass, there was another vehicle in front of me, speed was barely 20km/h... suddenly, a biker (an elderly person with a kid behind him) appeared from nowhere, i turned towards left to avoid him, he went into the V shape opening between my car and the one parked besides and hit the rear door/fender and bumper of my car Thankfully, he didnt fall but he did got his hand bruised... i parked on the side, the rear bumper was hanging out but it fixed right in easily but this dent was there the biker uncle knew he was wrong, he was also overspeeding but i just let him go... what cud i ve done... the dent was already there the scratches that u see in the picture are almost gone new, after the compound ... may be i ll get it dry dented...Honda City Fan Club - 367517

    OH OH Ahmad its sad

    indeed 1 good and 1 bad news

    I wish it would be out with dry denting at least paint is safe or just need sharp qalam

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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmadbila View Post
    First of all, Congratulations on buying ur new car... i ve got a 2006 city myself, though a manual one... and secondly, welcome to the thread

    So, as far as ur car goes... unless there is something wrong or periodic maintainence is due, u dont need to get anything done. the only one thing that i just cannot emphasis enough is ... the CVT oil!! Get it changes ASAP if the previous owner didnt or even if u dont know if he did or not... and use Honda's original CVT oil ONLY... no other oil works for vario... its a very delicate transmission, you gotta keep it well maintained to keep it going for long... other then that, if there are any sounds from suspension, get them checked. get new air filter , plugs etc and tappets adjustment done if it needs. may be engine oil... you havent stated the mileage of ur car, im assuming its below 150k kms and since ur car is petrol driven, i'd suggest u use havoline formula or Zic A.


    Im sorry i cannot help u with a mechanic, i hope some isb/rwp member will help u with that soon... just one thing, dont let the honda dealership guys fool u (they love to do that to make money) unless u or sumone u know trusts them, dont take ur car to them... most of the times they are not experts and people just think they are because of the name behind them...
    Thanx for such a detailed response. My car has a milage of 71000 KM, its CVT oil was changed on 40,000KM (as per previous owner). today I m going to Honda Classic (a 3S dealer in Isb). one of my friends has recommended the workshop. Lets C how it goes

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    LOL.....and u tried to be the same, RED WALA... man is dere any grading etc associated like 10w30 as u told

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    thanks for reply.. yeah u told me be4 about that faulty grip.. this time i have checked the 3 grips of steering by myself ... n sprayed wd40 .. now lets c how long does the sensor works... according to technician sensor coils are weak thts y it stopps working... also if battery becomes weak or there is improper current flow (for any reason) the sensor will halts....

    Quote Originally Posted by ahmadbila View Post
    oh.. good to know it started working again.. i hope it decides to stay that way and one more thing, if the sensor was dead, it would NOT work again no matter what, dont u think its some electrical linkage issue or sumthing similar? that it works when it wants and then goes to sleep... that is almost the same thing mine used to do a year ago, the i told u before too, it was just a faulty grip... mechanic cleaned it and no an error after that... i hope urs stays alive now... keep us updated...

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    Quote Originally Posted by a_n_memon88 View Post
    Yes there are only 4 clips I think that hold those silver rings, the screws are only visible and accessible once you take off the silver rings.

    I did not open the meter I just took off the plastic cover, The inside of meter can be opened by some locks and screws but I was extra cautious not to even touch inside of the meter because once I touched the meter of nissan sunny and its speedo had a an error it used to show 50 when I was doing around 35-40 and needle wouldnot stabilize, so in this case didnot want to disturb that. BTW I just went out in my car and believe me after cleaning just the lense and the dial the lights are as much as 20% and meter is looking great, So I would say dont open the meter area unless you are sure what you are doing
    well, thank you bro... I tried to get those silver rings off but sadly, i couldn't

    they're stuck fast. How did u do urs? Just pulled them off? do they need some great force?? I did not apply force cz I was afraid if may be the rings will break...

    And I am planning to clean the meter by using STP sun of a gun and I hope it will make a difference.
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    thanks for reply... lol yeah u r rite its a molvi sensor.. believe me for the last 3 consecutive fridays i have to get it reset....i take the deilvery of car on 1 jan and start using it from 18 jan ... cuz i dont have much parking space in the house n have to sell baleno... from 18 jan m facing that sensor issue.. i will try to go shershah by myself next time.. yeah thts for sure mechanics will charge extra for shershah stuff.. cuz they say if its a faulty sensor they can replace it wid shop in shershah..
    can u tell me the exact point where the rear speaker wires are... cuz there r no rear speakers... my car got only front speakers...


    Quote Originally Posted by a_n_memon88 View Post
    One thing I would like to advise you is that if its safe than go to shershah on your own I know its not safe to go to shershah these days. Recently I had an experience one of mechanics changed injectors of my city he bought secondhand ones from bilalgunj and charged me 4000rs, when I went to bilalgunj myself the rate I got was 2500-3000. Although I will go to that mechanic again because he is actually a good mechanic and charges a lot but his work is awesome. The point I was trying to make is that these mechanics are inherently used to take comission i.e thing which can be bought for 3000-4000 they will charge you 5000 for same thing so do survey market for yourself. As for sensor I think its some MAULVI SENSORthat goes to offer prayers every friday and gets back few days afterAs for the scanner working again I think that may be sensor is on its last legs or there is some wiring issue do sort it because it may destroy entire system

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    Quote Originally Posted by KLINCH View Post
    thanks for reply.. yeah u told me be4 about that faulty grip.. this time i have checked the 3 grips of steering by myself ... n sprayed wd40 .. now lets c how long does the sensor works... according to technician sensor coils are weak thts y it stopps working... also if battery becomes weak or there is improper current flow (for any reason) the sensor will halts....
    Bro, have u tried resetting the ECU after cleaning the grips???
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    Quote Originally Posted by KLINCH View Post
    thanks for reply... lol yeah u r rite its a molvi sensor.. believe me for the last 3 consecutive fridays i have to get it reset....i take the deilvery of car on 1 jan and start using it from 18 jan ... cuz i dont have much parking space in the house n have to sell baleno... from 18 jan m facing that sensor issue.. i will try to go shershah by myself next time.. yeah thts for sure mechanics will charge extra for shershah stuff.. cuz they say if its a faulty sensor they can replace it wid shop in shershah..
    can u tell me the exact point where the rear speaker wires are... cuz there r no rear speakers... my car got only front speakers...
    Bro, the rear speaker wiring is not present in the car and has to be installed. The rear speakers will go on the PHATTA behind the rear seats and u'll have to install the wires for them from the Pre all the way to the trunk area.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmadbila View Post
    yaar dont know why but the speedometer diagnostic test also doenst work every time... i tried on 2 different cars... around 6-7 times on both, it just didnt work the method is the same as for 7th gen civic but it wont work...
    It needs a trick bro. let me tell u.

    When u switch on the ignition with parking lights on and the trip meter button depressed, Just wait for one second before u turn off, on, off the parking lights...

    And when doing the off on off trick, do it slowly not very quickly.
    I mean like TICK.....TICK.....TICK

    and then it will do the job for you.

    And BTW, when u do it, just notice many lights which light up in it...

    _cruise control (2 lights)
    _immobilizer
    _fog lights (front +rear, 2 Lights)
    _overspeeding light

    Two other ones i don't remember.

    THE cars are literally naked...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmadbila View Post
    ohhh yes... yours was horrible... mine is minor and hardly visible on a first look.
    and hey, nice to see the Daactor inside u coming out

    yaar belt wont slip... trust me... i ve done this many many times... it just needs some adjustment, the grease would lubricate it for now so it wont make the sound when it rubs with things.
    Mine was a nightmare yaar...

    And the daactor, hehehe...

    Urs is a small thingy.. Just needs a good denter who knows the job.

    And yeah I applied grease on the belt. The sound is totally gone. and Lol i said slipping cz I didn't know the belt had grooves on one side.

    And when I got it checked from a mechanic, he said that the belt has been under wear and tear and needs to be replaced. thats why it makes sounds.

    So, I have ordered 4 things for the car.

    -The Foundation on the left side of the gear box..

    -the fine belt

    -The shield under the engine which protects from mud etc.

    -And the cam chain...

    as for ur "wicked laughter", . I guess I'll have to find one for my trunk as well then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by a_n_memon88 View Post
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    Ohhh maaiii Gaaaadd... Sir jeeeeeee ap nay tou bohat bara issue solve kar dia ... hats off sirr... (Y) allaaa job done... this is sumthing almost all of us need to do on ur car... im gonna do it on my car asap... and im planning to get that plastic bufffed from a professional, the same way i got my headlights buffed. that would bring out a new scratchless surface...

    but bro, i read ur post but couldnt understand it when i tried to seperate the inner side of the "roof" , i was able to get it out of its place from the center but the sides were badly stuck... what do i need to do to get it out? can u kindly state the whole process of taking these off?? thankyou
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    Quote Originally Posted by muhammadalibhai View Post
    LOL.....and u tried to be the same, RED WALA... man is dere any grading etc associated like 10w30 as u told
    lol... i wud ve certainly stated the grade but i dont remember it now because i ve stopped using it for more then a year now... atleast i gave u the complete name i.e. havoline formula ... i think its 10w30 but im not sure....
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    Quote Originally Posted by accord7362 View Post
    OH OH Ahmad its sad

    indeed 1 good and 1 bad news

    I wish it would be out with dry denting at least paint is safe or just need sharp qalam

    my prayers with you
    Thanks for ur prayers Amir bhai... and yes dry denting would bring it back to original i hope... lets see when can i get it done as the next 2 weeks are gonna be hell busy for me, due to a cousin's marriage...
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    Quote Originally Posted by RollOnBigMaMa View Post
    Bro, the rear speaker wiring is not present in the car and has to be installed. The rear speakers will go on the PHATTA behind the rear seats and u'll have to install the wires for them from the Pre all the way to the trunk area.
    a correction here bro... there ARE wires present for rear speakers already. i got new speakers on the rear phatta for the very first time (6-8 months ago) and the guy took just 5min for wiring. i think he took the wires out from the same wiring harness that brings in power for rear headlights and licence plate lights.. its located on the upper right portion of the trunk...
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    Sorry to hear about yer car Ahmed, though I do see a loooooooooooot of changes going on in it, for the better.....MashAllah looks very nice an clean now....esp with new eyes....vals day is coming up , an yer beauty is already in red....any special plans to give her somtin??
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