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    Default Honda City Fan Club

    (Maintainence schedule added at the end)

    Hi guys..!!! I thought we should have a Fan club for honda city.Theres already a fourm for City but thats dedicated to city steermatic only.in this club,we shall hav steermatic,idsi,cvt nd all models of city and all their variants. Well the history of this car is somewhat like this...


    First generation (1997-2000) On january 22nd 1997,the first Honda City was launched as a sedan.The city was always made for families and not for racing or sports.Thats why they were always equiped with the latest or sometimes firsts in the market.The interior was always very comforting and the seating position is also very comfortable.It had the options of power windows,and side view mirrors for the top model though they were not there in the base model.Power steeing,front seatbelts,digital clock,AC was available in the basic model too.One the outside,it was very elegantly designed.Beautiful,handsome and decent.Under the hood,it had a 1300cc 16valve SOHC engine ,and was the first car to have 16-valve in 1300cc category.


    Second generation (2000-2003) On January 20th 2000, Honda replaced the original City of 1997 with an update.This model of city had the basic shape of its predecessor.but with new crystal head lamps at the front,power side view mirrors and a chrome lining around the rear numberplate garnish.It was the first car in pakistan to have rear crystal headlights.It had two varients. Exi and Exi-s.The Exi had manual windows and side view mirrors,body colored licence plate garnish(not chromed), semi-fabric seat covers, 165/13 tyres,black door mirrors and no high mount stop lamp.But the Exi-s had all these things in it.The outside looked more gracefull with crystal lights and some new lines on the exterior.The engine in both of them were same.But this one had Programed fuel injection(PGM-Fi).There was optional 4-speed automatic transmission available. The engine engine's maximum horse power=90/6400 and maximum torque =11.5/4700 This model was produced until 2003


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    Third generation (2003-2005) On 23rd August 2003, the third-generation Honda City was launched which had a totally new shape.It was a very stylish and aerodynamic shape introduced in pakistan for the first time.It also was the first car to introduce i-dsi (intelligence-dual and sequential ignation) and CVT (continuously variable transmission) in Pakistan.It had an engine which is higly fuel economic and was build specially for better fuel economy.This car was equipped with power windows(pinch free) , power side view mirrors, tilt adjustable steering column and yet another first,the EPS or electriconic power steering.it made the steering very very soft to turn and also it had no oil used in it so it had no maintanence required.Other featrure of this car is that its the first Euro 3 comliant car in pakistan,that means that its very low on harmful emmisions.The EURO 3 emission standard are applicable in Europe from the year 2000, they are considered to be amongst the most strict standards worldwide. The standard limits emissions to 2.1 g/kWh CO, 0.66 g/kWh HC, 5.0 g/kWh NOx, 0.1 g/kWh particles. Another striking feature is, the boot space(400ltrs).it was bigger then any local car availabe at that time.This car was basically meant for families.it had two glove compartments,a big boot,empty space under the rear seats, four glass holders,and also, a smal space provided in the two front doors.And guess what? All of these options were available in the basic version.This city was divided on just the basis of the drive-train.One was manual,and other was automatic. On the outside,this car was designed very sophisticatedly,it looked smaller than other cars in size from outside but is alot more spacious inside.the body design was an immediate hit among fans and poeple who knew somthing about this type of things.Even the side view mirrors are designed to cut through air.


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    Fourth generation (2005-present) In september 2005,the fourth generation City was released.It was basically a face-lifted version on the previous model.it is known as the City ZX in Thailand, India, the New City in Malaysia and City in Pakistan.The most significant changes are a new exterior (new front grille, new headlamps, new fog lights, newtaillights and bumpers). The front end has been extended forward by 65 mm (2.6 in) while the rear has been extended by 15 mm (0.6 in). The VTEC trim have 15 inch alloy wheels as standard equipment. Interior changes are minor but it does include an armrest for the driver.The rest remains almost same as in the previous model. The engine remains the same but the intake manifold has been modified, resulting a 10% temperature drop in the intake air temperature (IAT), the suspension has been upgraded as well. Honda City in Pakistan are using CVT gearbox for both i-DSI and VTEC variants. The CVT-VTEC 1.5L gearbox is equipped with a Simulated 7-Speed Automated Manual Transmission (AMT) using paddle shift buttons. This is very rare for a subcompact of its class.This VTEC variant was called City-steermatic.

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    Steermatic:- The steermatic is basicaly a name of a technology used in the city VTEC 1.5L model.this model had a different engine than the idsi.it had a 1.5L engine with an auto transmission.this was not any other auto transmission.its is steermatic,means that you can change gears just by push of a button on the steering wheel.this is basically used in F1 racing.It has 2 options,either you drive on fully automated CVT option,or you select a virtual manual transmission.For this,you would change the gears when you want with a push of a button.This model also have an opitiron meter and also stock imported 15" alloy rims with bridgestone Potenza tyres. This technology is very sophisticated and advanced,which,sadly was'nt accepted by the buyers in Pakistan because they simply could not understand it and hence,this particular model of city was discontined.


    I-dsi:- I-dsi stands for Intelligence-dual and sequential ignation.In this type of engine,two spark plugs are employed for each cylinder.That makes 8 spark plugs instead of 4 plugs used by most cars.Adding of an additional plug assures complete burning and utilizing the last drop of fuel thrown into the cylinders which would provide you the best performace and better fuel consumption.Not all the times the 8 plugs are working,but when u push your car through high revs or speeds,all of them work simeltaneously and thats when ypu can feel the difference.But theres one drawback in it,this engine is equiped with 8 valves not 16.Hence it decreased the performance and city seems to be out of breath after 5000RPMs,but as this is basically a family car,performance is not the priority.The best thing about this was the fuel economy,about which,you can read the paragraph below.

    Fifth generation (2009 onwards) On 31th january 2009,the fifth generation of the honda City was launched in Pakistan.Which was an immediate hit among the fans.The previous Honda City was criticised due to its shape,but this time the best thing was the shape,which is even more aerodynamic then the previous one and also resembles the big Honda brothers,Civic and Accord.The best thing about the exterior of this City is the front view of the car.The wide,sleek and elegently designed radiator grill gives a refreashing look to the car.The dimesions of the car are almost similar to those of the older model.The sharp lines on the hood gives the city some attitude on the road.The boot space is increased about 25%,from 400ltrs to 506ltrs.But the good news doesnt end there,under the hood,There is a fairly powerful 1.3L SOHC VTEC engine.which produces a healthy 100bhp,enough for a 1.3L car.But dont think that you would have to lose something on the fuel economy side to get this sort of power.The fuel economy is actually improved.Some indian car expert magzines gave the figures of 22km/ltr for the auto transmission,which is the best in its class.The emission standards are improved as well.Previous city was Euro 3 compliant,but the new city is Euro 4 compliant.which means that your car is enviornment friendly.The only thing which you need to be concered about is the interior,which feels abit cramped campared to the previous City,but there is a reason to it.In the pervious city.the hood and the trunk had only a small portion of the exterior length covered,and the cabin was much bigger,which gave nice interior space,but from outside,the car looked ugly to some eyes.To correct this ugliness,the car was redesigned with increased hood and trunk length from outside,this made it look much better but the drawback was the lesser interior space.The second thing was the missing silver portions on the interior bits and panels of the Pakistani City.The interior would have felt lively only if some spots of it would have been in silver color.But you have alot other advantages,like 15" rims,ABS as standard,vtec engine,details of fuel milage on a special screen in the speedometer,huge boot and many other small things. In a nutshel,the new Honda City is much more refined comparitively to the previous one.The basic things which matter alot have been improved like the engine and the exterior design.The ride of the car is also improved,thanks to the small changes in the suspension.All in all,its still a great package if you see it the value-for-money way in Pakistani market atleast.


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    Fuel Consumption:- The 2005 face-lifted Honda City i-DSI achieved an impressive 26.2km per liter of fuel consumption during a challenge in June 2007. The challenge requires the vehicle to be occupied by 4 persons (including the driver), air conditioning being switched on and a load of luggage. The whole route stretched more than 660km that consists of not only highway driving but also hill climbing. ==================================== Source:-My self mostly,wikipedia and Honda atlas.


    In Short:- In short,according to me,all this proves that Honda City has been a great car for a family to have at all times for more than a decade now.It has proven its self to be a complete car one would need at a price tag it is available for.An im one of the thousands of satisfied owners of it for the past one year. Now all we need are your comments and thoughts upon this small wonder.And also do make sure you post some pix of your own city if you have,of any model.Please feel free to express your feelings about this car.

    Maintainence schedule:-

    There have been a lot of queries regarding the maintainence shedule of Honda City. To help find members and guests find this information easily and quickly, i am writing the complete maintainence shedule which i have been following for the past 5 years for my car (180,000kms).Cost of completing the job may/may not be stated. Some of it may not be the same as that in maintainence book provided by Honda people. In that case, i ll state the reason of the difference.Here goes.

    Oils:-
    Havoline formula 10W30 (3.7ltr) and oil filter change @ 3000kms. Cost 1900rs

    Transmission oil (Manual transmission) 2 ltr @ 40,000kms.
    Honda original oil 1980rs (2ltr)
    Good quality Zic/ micking oil 800rs (2ltr)

    Transmission oil ( Automatic transmission) 2lre @ 35,000kms
    Honda CVT oil ONLY (3.2-3.4L.) 1980rs

    Brake oil
    Keep it topped up and change only if padel feels very soft n goes wayy down.
    Honda original oil

    Clutch operation oil
    Keep it topped up and change only if you it shows signs of trouble

    Parts change:-

    Brake pads change:-
    recommended @ 30,000kms
    Can use any good quality pads. (labour 400rs for 4 wheels plus pads, from 500rs to 2500rs)

    Fuel filter change @ 40,000kms (IF driven on petrol)

    Air filter change @ 10,000kms Original Honda filter is best.Good quality guard filter is good too.
    980rs for OEM, 350rs for Guard filter.

    Spark plugs @ 20,000kms Original Honda plugs (8 plugs for idsi. 4 for steermatic, new city ivtec and before-2003 model City)

    Timing belt. Not required. From 2003 onwards, all honda Citys have timing chains instead of belts.They usually last a life time.

    Tune-ups :-

    Throttle body service @ 20,000kms Cost around 500rs
    Tappets adjustment / valve clearence @ 20,000kms Cost around 500rs

    Brake adjustment front not required after pads change. rear @ 30,000kms (or when front pads changed)

    Expected Life of Some parts:-

    Brake pads 35,000kms if driven aggressively ( cost already mentioned)
    Clutch plate 110,000kms if driven aggressively ( around 2000rs labour and 6000rs for clutch+pressure plate)
    Clutch bearing 150,000kms (So change with clutch plate) (800rs)
    Tuneups can be delayed to 30,000kms IF the car is run in clean enviornment like in Islamabad etc (less dust)
    Engine oil change can be delays to 5,000kms but not good in long run.

    Service Manual Honda City ids-i 2003-2008:-
    http://www.putlocker.com/file/CED54F8B8FB00360

    Tip for keeping automatic transmission (Vario and steermatic) healthy on CNG:-
    Change engine oil at 3,000kms MAX.
    Tranny oil at 30,000kms
    Tune up (throttle and valve clearence) at 20,000kms
    Do NOT ignore idleing problems. Rough idleing means jerks to transmission and thats what kills it on CNG.
    Keep air filter clean and change at 10,000kms max.

    Instrument cluster cleaning DIY
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/d-i...ening-cleaning
    Console box opening and spray painting DIY
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/d-i...-respray-diy-1
    A/c service, the easy way
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/air...ck-c-service-1
    Honda City GTG at kallar kahar
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/get...g-kallar-kahar
    2nd Honda City GTG at kallar kahar
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/get...ar-23-dec-12-a

    Thats all for now.
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    aoa. guys i m officially a member of this club now as i have booked new ivtec whose delivery i wud be getting soon enough InshAlllah...the question here i wanna ask is that the city abroad has turn indicators on its side view mirrors. any idea from where i can get them in pakistan and how much wud they cost. i have sources in UK as well, so if someone can guide me from where in uk i can get them, i wud be thankful. regards

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    Quote Originally Posted by waleed80 View Post
    aoa. guys i m officially a member of this club now as i have booked new ivtec whose delivery i wud be getting soon enough InshAlllah...the question here i wanna ask is that the city abroad has turn indicators on its side view mirrors. any idea from where i can get them in pakistan and how much wud they cost. i have sources in UK as well, so if someone can guide me from where in uk i can get them, i wud be thankful. regards
    Congratulations sir glad to have u here...
    for side view mirror indicator, u can get it from any Honda parts dealer in UK or for a cheaper price, try some junk yard, may be u ll get lucky...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmadbila View Post
    My uncle's 2005 City idsi... this is by far THE worst maintained idsi i ve ever seen i'll post detailed pictures of it in the morning and you guys will feel like crying rivers
    for example, in just 15 seconds it took me to park it into my garage, i noticed that the radiator fan is direct (this harms the engine) , the car starts directly on CNG (not on petrol as mine) and that engine sounds like alto's engine revved to 3000 with A/c switched with 5 passengers trying to climb murree hills

    and the funny thing is, the owner is an army officer, serving as colonel and i thought its a plus point in car ads when it says "maintained by army officer"

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    ooo... that is bad..ive seen bank auction cars in better condition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmadbila View Post
    Thanks for the compliments sir , my pleasure

    and yes, try bilal ganj and do update us if u get something for ur car...
    OK! Sir I'll Update ASAP when i get the the light !
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    Rain turned my car into a mess it was super clean until today morning... will get it serviced tomorrow morning as i have to leave for kalar kahar tomorrow

    got engine oil changed too...


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    @ahmad bhai, Oh good lord!!! 255k, This condition and this IDSi is still running.... I must say, urs and mine are gonna last till 1000k very easily.

    BTW how on earth does that city start on cng directly?? EFI cars can never use a manual kit? Is its fuel system totally changed???

    And 1451 looks like a young princess beside that grandma.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmadbila View Post
    Rain turned my car into a mess it was super clean until today morning... will get it serviced tomorrow morning as i have to leave for kalar kahar tomorrow

    got engine oil changed too...


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    Great. Getting prepared for a long drive. BTW which route u'll use for the trip?

    Pail Padhraar? Or Salum Interchange and so on??

    As for ur car, Trust me, Urs looks much better than mine after the rain...
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    Quote Originally Posted by RollOnBigMaMa View Post
    @ahmad bhai, Oh good lord!!! 255k, This condition and this IDSi is still running.... I must say, urs and mine are gonna last till 1000k very easily.

    BTW how on earth does that city start on cng directly?? EFI cars can never use a manual kit? Is its fuel system totally changed???

    And 1451 looks like a young princess beside that grandma.
    yaarrr the amazing fact is that this car is still running on sealed (not overhauled) engine... though it may require an overhaul job any seconds now sound of engine is too bad... its a very badly maintained and abused car... but still GOING...
    and as for starting on cng, any EFI car can start on CNG, u can start urs on CNG too just be a small hot wiring thing... but it would take like 5 seconds of self for the engine to come to life... i think the emulator in a cng kit is there for this job, remove the emulator and u can start directly on CNG... but it is good for the engine at all...

    and yar i ll be using sargodha-salim-kalarkahar or bhera route... pail padhrar is also fine but thats shorter for u, for me, the above route is more suitable... though i ve used the other one too...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmadbila View Post
    yaarrr the amazing fact is that this car is still running on sealed (not overhauled) engine... though it may require an overhaul job any seconds now sound of engine is too bad... its a very badly maintained and abused car... but still GOING...
    and as for starting on cng, any EFI car can start on CNG, u can start urs on CNG too just be a small hot wiring thing... but it would take like 5 seconds of self for the engine to come to life... i think the emulator in a cng kit is there for this job, remove the emulator and u can start directly on CNG... but it is good for the engine at all...

    and yar i ll be using sargodha-salim-kalarkahar or bhera route... pail padhrar is also fine but thats shorter for u, for me, the above route is more suitable... though i ve used the other one too...
    Hmmm... Then I must say, these engines usually last a lifetime if not abused. And I also lost the Little IDSI strip from my engine cover. Anyway to have it back or I mean having a self made one?

    As for CNG, why waste ur awesome engine for 5 drops of petrol? I usually let the car warm up before converting it on CNG. And never drive it for about 5 mins after the blue light goes off.. Cz even after the light goes off, the car seems a bit heavy. I just let it warm up and it feels light as a feather.

    BTW, i did a small DIY and got my parts for the car, Gonna post pics very very soon.
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    Well, today was supposed to be detailing sunday, but as we know that

    Cloudy skies + bird !@*%s = cars

    Therefore, I decided to open up both of the rear door panels and wash them up. My car is used for taking bacha loag to school so they were real dirty. I used simple Surf excel with a soft bathe brush to clean.

    After they dried up, I treated them with STP.

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    And Now, I got the Gear foundation, the one on the left side of the gears was gone. And the generator belt, aka fan belt (though not connected to the fan in any way like older engines).

    Foundation cost Rs 1650 and the belt cost Rs 450.

    As it was friday so my mamoon couldn't get the cam chain. Will get it next time inshAllah.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RollOnBigMaMa View Post
    Hmmm... Then I must say, these engines usually last a lifetime if not abused. And I also lost the Little IDSI strip from my engine cover. Anyway to have it back or I mean having a self made one?

    As for CNG, why waste ur awesome engine for 5 drops of petrol? I usually let the car warm up before converting it on CNG. And never drive it for about 5 mins after the blue light goes off.. Cz even after the light goes off, the car seems a bit heavy. I just let it warm up and it feels light as a feather.

    BTW, i did a small DIY and got my parts for the car, Gonna post pics very very soon.
    yeah they really will last a very long time if maintainence schedule is followed carefully AND the cars are driven on petrol... we all know CNG harms an engine in the long run, so an engine dying at 300,000kms on CNG wud probably live past 500,000kms... and this is TOOOOO much... one of my friend's 88 civic had original 430,000kms... 1988!!! if an engine lives for that long, its an engineering masterpiece!!!
    yar i ve never seen that strip for sale anywhere.i take extra care of it. almost every time i open the engine i check if its loose , and if it is, i take it off and fix it back again using magic glue... thats why its still there go bilal ganj-ing or sultan ka khuu-ing some day or just try ur Honda stealership, they might get u one for "12,949 RS" or so... huh...

    thats a good thing that u do, warming up on petrol... i also do it every time i start my car... the initial few seconds are very critical speacially in winters. the oil inside the engine is almost as dense as honey and it wont climb up due to gravity... thats why u need a thinner oil for winters... but u know, this colonel uncle of mine wont agree... once i asked him why do u abuse ur car so badly? n guess wat was the reply "mai iska khayal nai rakhta, phir b chal rhi hy, tum apni gari ka khayal rakhtay ho,wo b chal rhi hy... tou dono mai fark kia hy?" and i was like.... AAAARRRGGGGHHHHH.... :@

    waiting to see pictures of the parts u bought and the DIY too
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    Quote Originally Posted by RollOnBigMaMa View Post
    Well, today was supposed to be detailing sunday, but as we know that

    Cloudy skies + bird !@*%s = cars

    Therefore, I decided to open up both of the rear door panels and wash them up. My car is used for taking bacha loag to school so they were real dirty. I used simple Surf excel with a soft bathe brush to clean.

    After they dried up, I treated them with STP.

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    And Now, I got the Gear foundation, the one on the left side of the gears was gone. And the generator belt, aka fan belt (though not connected to the fan in any way like older engines).

    Foundation cost Rs 1650 and the belt cost Rs 450.

    As it was friday so my mamoon couldn't get the cam chain. Will get it next time inshAllah.

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    Oh ho ho ho... zabardust yaaaarr.... job well done!! there is a LOT of difference between before and after... this is one DIY that my car also needs badly but i dont wanna give it to it due to the light color or the upholstry what STP product did u use? man i ve never heard much about STP but you re forcing me towards them!!
    and yar i also need exactly the SAME foundation that u got... but u said left... with the bonnet open, u facing the engine, this mount is just to the right of the gearbox, isnt it? thats what i need to... lets see when i can get it.. did u check the other 3 mounts of ur car? are they fine? due to this mount being almost torn apart, my car gives jerk when setting off from start and its really annoying :@ im gonna get it asap... also gonna get 2 new shock absorbers... front...
    and oh, the rain made my fan belt squeal too :|
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    how is the AC of new city ? how wud u guys rate it in comparison to that of idsi...secondly, i test drove one of the new cities a week ago and i experienced a sudden lack of power when the gear is changed at high rev near red line. wat can be the reason ? i mean, keh car achanak beth jaatee hey for a second or so and then accelerates if the gear is changed at high rpm in the previous gear.

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    and yeah another thing...the accelerator was pretty hard as compared to taht of my platz which i currently own. do u guys experience the same or was there something wrong with that car only

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    eeemmm.... i dont know why there are soooo many complaints about the acceleration of new city while many, many people report having excellent performance with their cars... i ve driven a few new citys and all of them fly off like anything... the only thing common in all of them was lack of power below 2000 RPM, as soon as it crossed 2000 RPM, a sudden burst of power is felt...
    anyways, it can be anything...a badly tuned car, low tire pressure or just a badly tuned throttle... do u know, the new city has an electronic throttle? a.k.a Drive by wire throttle system... there is no cable for it. there is a sensor that determines how much u are pressing the pedal and gives command to the engine accordingly. now this thing does improves engine response but im not a big fan of it, the reason is that it takes away that FEEL of being in control of everything, ur race pedal is just a lever resting on a spring, nothing to feel there... this is also one reason why people might sometimes complain about the response of the engine... and oh, every time the throttle body is serviced, this throttle system needs to be re callibrated using some softwares... if not done properly, this can also cause issues... so , rest assured that not every city has a fault, the one u drove must have some issues going on with it...

    that "baith jana" might also be due to getting out of the Vtec kicking in range... and the hard pedal due to the above mentioned design of the race pedal...
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    hhmm...i kinda agree..i also thought that it mite be cause of the DBW thingy....the 1.8 altis (pre face lift) also behaves the same way on high rpms. anyways, lets see which one do i get and does it have lag or not. i m basically a family person and drive slow and steady but was just wondering to ask if there is any problem as such or not. u dint tell me the AC performance of new city in comparison to the corollla

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    Well if you dont drive fast i would suggest you corolla gli its best. I would all it an all rounder.
    Best on motorway and on broken dirty roads. I have driven new city and gli both.

    Pro's of city its epic fast comparing to gli
    Drove auto city took it till 170 in dha phase 8 hard braking etc superb ride on the other hand at the same place i could only manage 150 no corolla.

    Cons only one is if the road is bumpy bad etc city sucks big time.

    Corolla. If you drive normally its all rounder. If you drive fast it avg.

    Well if i have choice i would buy corolla over city because i have to go to village and corolla win's there. If there is no village and out of city driving then honda city win's.

    But then if i am talking about city i will buy some corolla axio because jdm buit ride is something else cant be compared with local rides.
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    Btw about ac being not good of corolla or city. Well even if there is a difference its 9/10 not too much. Hardly any one will notice.

    The problem i feel is that on the front ac will freez you and rear passengers will be just okay.
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    Quote Originally Posted by qwertypoiu View Post
    Well if you dont drive fast i would suggest you corolla gli its best. I would all it an all rounder.
    Best on motorway and on broken dirty roads. I have driven new city and gli both.

    Pro's of city its epic fast comparing to gli
    Drove auto city took it till 170 in dha phase 8 hard braking etc superb ride on the other hand at the same place i could only manage 150 no corolla.

    Cons only one is if the road is bumpy bad etc city sucks big time.

    Corolla. If you drive normally its all rounder. If you drive fast it avg.

    Well if i have choice i would buy corolla over city because i have to go to village and corolla win's there. If there is no village and out of city driving then honda city win's.

    But then if i am talking about city i will buy some corolla axio because jdm buit ride is something else cant be compared with local rides.
    well u know me that i m in army and i have no roots back in village anymore...so all the times i have to be traveling on main roads..say from pindi to lahore, peshawar and murree etc...BOHOT bhee hua tau i wud be travelling to karachi on main roads..off the road there is no trip planned...and even if there is, dad has a 07 gli which i can always take for that tractor ride lolz....so for me, city is the best option and thats the only reason i booked it...plus...to pay abt 2 lacs extra for gli with no additional facility at all is a total craziness

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