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    Default Honda City Fan Club

    (Maintainence schedule added at the end)

    Hi guys..!!! I thought we should have a Fan club for honda city.Theres already a fourm for City but thats dedicated to city steermatic only.in this club,we shall hav steermatic,idsi,cvt nd all models of city and all their variants. Well the history of this car is somewhat like this...


    First generation (1997-2000) On january 22nd 1997,the first Honda City was launched as a sedan.The city was always made for families and not for racing or sports.Thats why they were always equiped with the latest or sometimes firsts in the market.The interior was always very comforting and the seating position is also very comfortable.It had the options of power windows,and side view mirrors for the top model though they were not there in the base model.Power steeing,front seatbelts,digital clock,AC was available in the basic model too.One the outside,it was very elegantly designed.Beautiful,handsome and decent.Under the hood,it had a 1300cc 16valve SOHC engine ,and was the first car to have 16-valve in 1300cc category.


    Second generation (2000-2003) On January 20th 2000, Honda replaced the original City of 1997 with an update.This model of city had the basic shape of its predecessor.but with new crystal head lamps at the front,power side view mirrors and a chrome lining around the rear numberplate garnish.It was the first car in pakistan to have rear crystal headlights.It had two varients. Exi and Exi-s.The Exi had manual windows and side view mirrors,body colored licence plate garnish(not chromed), semi-fabric seat covers, 165/13 tyres,black door mirrors and no high mount stop lamp.But the Exi-s had all these things in it.The outside looked more gracefull with crystal lights and some new lines on the exterior.The engine in both of them were same.But this one had Programed fuel injection(PGM-Fi).There was optional 4-speed automatic transmission available. The engine engine's maximum horse power=90/6400 and maximum torque =11.5/4700 This model was produced until 2003


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    Third generation (2003-2005) On 23rd August 2003, the third-generation Honda City was launched which had a totally new shape.It was a very stylish and aerodynamic shape introduced in pakistan for the first time.It also was the first car to introduce i-dsi (intelligence-dual and sequential ignation) and CVT (continuously variable transmission) in Pakistan.It had an engine which is higly fuel economic and was build specially for better fuel economy.This car was equipped with power windows(pinch free) , power side view mirrors, tilt adjustable steering column and yet another first,the EPS or electriconic power steering.it made the steering very very soft to turn and also it had no oil used in it so it had no maintanence required.Other featrure of this car is that its the first Euro 3 comliant car in pakistan,that means that its very low on harmful emmisions.The EURO 3 emission standard are applicable in Europe from the year 2000, they are considered to be amongst the most strict standards worldwide. The standard limits emissions to 2.1 g/kWh CO, 0.66 g/kWh HC, 5.0 g/kWh NOx, 0.1 g/kWh particles. Another striking feature is, the boot space(400ltrs).it was bigger then any local car availabe at that time.This car was basically meant for families.it had two glove compartments,a big boot,empty space under the rear seats, four glass holders,and also, a smal space provided in the two front doors.And guess what? All of these options were available in the basic version.This city was divided on just the basis of the drive-train.One was manual,and other was automatic. On the outside,this car was designed very sophisticatedly,it looked smaller than other cars in size from outside but is alot more spacious inside.the body design was an immediate hit among fans and poeple who knew somthing about this type of things.Even the side view mirrors are designed to cut through air.


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    Fourth generation (2005-present) In september 2005,the fourth generation City was released.It was basically a face-lifted version on the previous model.it is known as the City ZX in Thailand, India, the New City in Malaysia and City in Pakistan.The most significant changes are a new exterior (new front grille, new headlamps, new fog lights, newtaillights and bumpers). The front end has been extended forward by 65 mm (2.6 in) while the rear has been extended by 15 mm (0.6 in). The VTEC trim have 15 inch alloy wheels as standard equipment. Interior changes are minor but it does include an armrest for the driver.The rest remains almost same as in the previous model. The engine remains the same but the intake manifold has been modified, resulting a 10% temperature drop in the intake air temperature (IAT), the suspension has been upgraded as well. Honda City in Pakistan are using CVT gearbox for both i-DSI and VTEC variants. The CVT-VTEC 1.5L gearbox is equipped with a Simulated 7-Speed Automated Manual Transmission (AMT) using paddle shift buttons. This is very rare for a subcompact of its class.This VTEC variant was called City-steermatic.

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    Steermatic:- The steermatic is basicaly a name of a technology used in the city VTEC 1.5L model.this model had a different engine than the idsi.it had a 1.5L engine with an auto transmission.this was not any other auto transmission.its is steermatic,means that you can change gears just by push of a button on the steering wheel.this is basically used in F1 racing.It has 2 options,either you drive on fully automated CVT option,or you select a virtual manual transmission.For this,you would change the gears when you want with a push of a button.This model also have an opitiron meter and also stock imported 15" alloy rims with bridgestone Potenza tyres. This technology is very sophisticated and advanced,which,sadly was'nt accepted by the buyers in Pakistan because they simply could not understand it and hence,this particular model of city was discontined.


    I-dsi:- I-dsi stands for Intelligence-dual and sequential ignation.In this type of engine,two spark plugs are employed for each cylinder.That makes 8 spark plugs instead of 4 plugs used by most cars.Adding of an additional plug assures complete burning and utilizing the last drop of fuel thrown into the cylinders which would provide you the best performace and better fuel consumption.Not all the times the 8 plugs are working,but when u push your car through high revs or speeds,all of them work simeltaneously and thats when ypu can feel the difference.But theres one drawback in it,this engine is equiped with 8 valves not 16.Hence it decreased the performance and city seems to be out of breath after 5000RPMs,but as this is basically a family car,performance is not the priority.The best thing about this was the fuel economy,about which,you can read the paragraph below.

    Fifth generation (2009 onwards) On 31th january 2009,the fifth generation of the honda City was launched in Pakistan.Which was an immediate hit among the fans.The previous Honda City was criticised due to its shape,but this time the best thing was the shape,which is even more aerodynamic then the previous one and also resembles the big Honda brothers,Civic and Accord.The best thing about the exterior of this City is the front view of the car.The wide,sleek and elegently designed radiator grill gives a refreashing look to the car.The dimesions of the car are almost similar to those of the older model.The sharp lines on the hood gives the city some attitude on the road.The boot space is increased about 25%,from 400ltrs to 506ltrs.But the good news doesnt end there,under the hood,There is a fairly powerful 1.3L SOHC VTEC engine.which produces a healthy 100bhp,enough for a 1.3L car.But dont think that you would have to lose something on the fuel economy side to get this sort of power.The fuel economy is actually improved.Some indian car expert magzines gave the figures of 22km/ltr for the auto transmission,which is the best in its class.The emission standards are improved as well.Previous city was Euro 3 compliant,but the new city is Euro 4 compliant.which means that your car is enviornment friendly.The only thing which you need to be concered about is the interior,which feels abit cramped campared to the previous City,but there is a reason to it.In the pervious city.the hood and the trunk had only a small portion of the exterior length covered,and the cabin was much bigger,which gave nice interior space,but from outside,the car looked ugly to some eyes.To correct this ugliness,the car was redesigned with increased hood and trunk length from outside,this made it look much better but the drawback was the lesser interior space.The second thing was the missing silver portions on the interior bits and panels of the Pakistani City.The interior would have felt lively only if some spots of it would have been in silver color.But you have alot other advantages,like 15" rims,ABS as standard,vtec engine,details of fuel milage on a special screen in the speedometer,huge boot and many other small things. In a nutshel,the new Honda City is much more refined comparitively to the previous one.The basic things which matter alot have been improved like the engine and the exterior design.The ride of the car is also improved,thanks to the small changes in the suspension.All in all,its still a great package if you see it the value-for-money way in Pakistani market atleast.


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    Fuel Consumption:- The 2005 face-lifted Honda City i-DSI achieved an impressive 26.2km per liter of fuel consumption during a challenge in June 2007. The challenge requires the vehicle to be occupied by 4 persons (including the driver), air conditioning being switched on and a load of luggage. The whole route stretched more than 660km that consists of not only highway driving but also hill climbing. ==================================== Source:-My self mostly,wikipedia and Honda atlas.


    In Short:- In short,according to me,all this proves that Honda City has been a great car for a family to have at all times for more than a decade now.It has proven its self to be a complete car one would need at a price tag it is available for.An im one of the thousands of satisfied owners of it for the past one year. Now all we need are your comments and thoughts upon this small wonder.And also do make sure you post some pix of your own city if you have,of any model.Please feel free to express your feelings about this car.

    Maintainence schedule:-

    There have been a lot of queries regarding the maintainence shedule of Honda City. To help find members and guests find this information easily and quickly, i am writing the complete maintainence shedule which i have been following for the past 5 years for my car (180,000kms).Cost of completing the job may/may not be stated. Some of it may not be the same as that in maintainence book provided by Honda people. In that case, i ll state the reason of the difference.Here goes.

    Oils:-
    Havoline formula 10W30 (3.7ltr) and oil filter change @ 3000kms. Cost 1900rs

    Transmission oil (Manual transmission) 2 ltr @ 40,000kms.
    Honda original oil 1980rs (2ltr)
    Good quality Zic/ micking oil 800rs (2ltr)

    Transmission oil ( Automatic transmission) 2lre @ 35,000kms
    Honda CVT oil ONLY (3.2-3.4L.) 1980rs

    Brake oil
    Keep it topped up and change only if padel feels very soft n goes wayy down.
    Honda original oil

    Clutch operation oil
    Keep it topped up and change only if you it shows signs of trouble

    Parts change:-

    Brake pads change:-
    recommended @ 30,000kms
    Can use any good quality pads. (labour 400rs for 4 wheels plus pads, from 500rs to 2500rs)

    Fuel filter change @ 40,000kms (IF driven on petrol)

    Air filter change @ 10,000kms Original Honda filter is best.Good quality guard filter is good too.
    980rs for OEM, 350rs for Guard filter.

    Spark plugs @ 20,000kms Original Honda plugs (8 plugs for idsi. 4 for steermatic, new city ivtec and before-2003 model City)

    Timing belt. Not required. From 2003 onwards, all honda Citys have timing chains instead of belts.They usually last a life time.

    Tune-ups :-

    Throttle body service @ 20,000kms Cost around 500rs
    Tappets adjustment / valve clearence @ 20,000kms Cost around 500rs

    Brake adjustment front not required after pads change. rear @ 30,000kms (or when front pads changed)

    Expected Life of Some parts:-

    Brake pads 35,000kms if driven aggressively ( cost already mentioned)
    Clutch plate 110,000kms if driven aggressively ( around 2000rs labour and 6000rs for clutch+pressure plate)
    Clutch bearing 150,000kms (So change with clutch plate) (800rs)
    Tuneups can be delayed to 30,000kms IF the car is run in clean enviornment like in Islamabad etc (less dust)
    Engine oil change can be delays to 5,000kms but not good in long run.

    Service Manual Honda City ids-i 2003-2008:-
    http://www.putlocker.com/file/CED54F8B8FB00360

    Tip for keeping automatic transmission (Vario and steermatic) healthy on CNG:-
    Change engine oil at 3,000kms MAX.
    Tranny oil at 30,000kms
    Tune up (throttle and valve clearence) at 20,000kms
    Do NOT ignore idleing problems. Rough idleing means jerks to transmission and thats what kills it on CNG.
    Keep air filter clean and change at 10,000kms max.

    Instrument cluster cleaning DIY
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/d-i...ening-cleaning
    Console box opening and spray painting DIY
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/d-i...-respray-diy-1
    A/c service, the easy way
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/air...ck-c-service-1
    Honda City GTG at kallar kahar
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/get...g-kallar-kahar
    2nd Honda City GTG at kallar kahar
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/get...ar-23-dec-12-a

    Thats all for now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by smashhud View Post
    Absolutely Gorgeous pics .. Very well done dear..
    Thank you sir g.. ur appreciation means a lot.

    Quote Originally Posted by ahmadbila View Post
    oh yeesss i agree... a 5-6 years old very clean and shiny car looks much better then a brand new car that is shiny... infact an old well maintained car tells a lot about the owner too... but the fact is, maintaining an old car as good as new is a nerve wrecking job...

    and yar, new city has almost same sort of brakes as the idsi (with added abs) but the brakes are like 100 times better then idsi, even before the abs kicks in... dont know what they ve done them...
    yea... thats a fact. Two days back, my cousin was here when I was busy in detailing my idsi. I was all there with a spray gun doing touching tuchching on it i.e where I saw some dirt, Just flushed it with pressure spray and wiped it off... Either ways using a tooth brush to clean tricky spots.

    And in the end, topping every spot up with carnauba. When I was buffing, he said k yaar kia krte ho? aven he muft me kapra laga rhe ho. Jo saaf honi thi wo ho chuki. ab bas kro.

    Maine usy kaha k bhai ja k apna kaam kro aur 1 ghante baad aana. So, he went away.

    and after one hour, I may have had to use some tool to close his jaws and push the tongue back in. He could see his face in the door if it was a mirror.

    He was like "waah yaar, kia kamal ki reflection hai"

    Yaar, bros, I just can't express the feeling I had at that moment.

    bro, as for the brakes, umm, I feel them almost the same as those of idsi as far as abs doesnt kick in. could've been a bit better...

    Quote Originally Posted by ahmadbila View Post
    wow... Looking alllaaaa... specially in the first pic... i ll use some editing thing too now
    hahaha... yaar the pics were taken from an IP4. my czn was wd me, don't know what he did with these pics. the middle one is un touched though.

    I am a real newbie when it comes to editing and stuff.. I hate computers except when i use PW...

    I'll Lost some REAL pics tomorrow inshAllah.

    Quote Originally Posted by ahmadbila View Post
    yaaarr is omar mai kuch b yaad nai rehta, haafza bohot kamzoor hy mera

    wicked smileeee.... eemmm... ohh.... the carpet under trunk lid?
    hahaha... yea the trunk carpet. and one more was abt that idsi logo on the engine. I have lost it. anyways to make a new one or where to find another one??
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    Quote Originally Posted by eusmkha View Post
    Original honda allow wheels


    nah not interested....i want a car whose wheels are "not allowed" hehehehe

    on a serious note, best of luck for the sale

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    wat do u guys suggest to keep the boot clean. sometimes with the vegetables or flour inside, the booot starts giving a very bad look after a while. a carpet can be a solution, but then the loose carpet inside the boot wud keep on slipping here and there. advice pelase

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    and is the boot of i-vtec city really bigger than that of idsi ? cause apparently, they both seem to be same, rather to me idsi boot somehow seems to be biger

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    can any one tell me ideal price of this situation car
    city I.DSI 2005 model registered 2006. 52000 KM driven. Lahore number, new Tyre, new cng Installed, and never touch ups, clean interior. suggests me what will be price of this . i wana purchase it .
    i love cycle because no need to take tension

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    Quote Originally Posted by saman787 View Post
    @all

    can any one tell me ideal price of this situation car
    city I.DSI 2005 model registered 2006. 52000 KM driven. Lahore number, new Tyre, new cng Installed, and never touch ups, clean interior. suggests me what will be price of this . i wana purchase it .
    IF it is as clean as u r saying, it shud be around 9.40 in my opinion. i mite well me wrong...cause one of my friends sold his city 05 last month. isb registered, first owner. body perfect. bumpers repainted. one lac km driven, he was asking for 8.60....but as the one ur mentioning is half driven and new everything, thats why i said keh 9.40 or 9.30 shud be the rite price....i mite be absolutely wrong. please let the others comment too cause i m primarily a JDM boy

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    absoulty right waleed sb....... i went to honda pit shop and asked and show the car they told 9.40
    i love cycle because no need to take tension

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    Quote Originally Posted by waleed80 View Post
    nah not interested....i want a car whose wheels are "not allowed" hehehehe

    on a serious note, best of luck for the sale
    I went for these rims on my city. i.e 5 spoke silvers in 15". these are the rims in this sze that can give the best possible look to this car according to its aerodynamic shape. My colour was habanero red pearl.

    What is ur colour code? and in what inches size are you interested.?

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    Quote Originally Posted by waleed80 View Post
    wat do u guys suggest to keep the boot clean. sometimes with the vegetables or flour inside, the booot starts giving a very bad look after a while. a carpet can be a solution, but then the loose carpet inside the boot wud keep on slipping here and there. advice pelase
    hmmm, first thing is to avoid keeping such things in the boot at all... LOL

    now that u have to,an extra carpet is a bad solution, trust me. U can always take out the carpet on a weekly basis and wash it up in ur home. don't use any rough and hard brush for the purpose.

    one more thing is that get some picnic baskets and use those for bringing in groceries. most of the particulars will fit in them. and they won't let them give a bad feel to the carpet in any way.

    I hope this helps...

    Quote Originally Posted by waleed80 View Post
    and is the boot of i-vtec city really bigger than that of idsi ? cause apparently, they both seem to be same, rather to me idsi boot somehow seems to be biger
    technically, the new city has smaller interior cabin but a bigger boot space. idsi has small trunk as compared to the new one.

    I have kept three full size double barrel shot guns in the new city but those won't fit in idsi...

    Quote Originally Posted by saman787 View Post
    @all

    can any one tell me ideal price of this situation car
    city I.DSI 2005 model registered 2006. 52000 KM driven. Lahore number, new Tyre, new cng Installed, and never touch ups, clean interior. suggests me what will be price of this . i wana purchase it .
    hmmm, according to the isb market, its fair price should be around 930k-980k. Depends upon the owner totally. If he demands 1040k for such a car, trust me he can get it. So, if somebody offers u such a car in 940k, do get it immediately.

    But, before paying, make urself very damn sure that the car is genuinely 52k driven cz I have an idsi 199k driven and U won't even guess such a mileage by looking at its condition.

    what I mean is, driving the car so much and then keeping its looks marvelous like "never taken out of the garage" or "army officer driven" or "lady doctor owned" isn't pretty much difficult at all.

    One can end up in a bad situation by thinking the car is 50k driven when it actually is over 100 something and doesn't happen to check its periodic maintenance.

    I hope it can be of some help to u...

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    Quote Originally Posted by saman787 View Post
    @all

    can any one tell me ideal price of this situation car
    city I.DSI 2005 model registered 2006. 52000 KM driven. Lahore number, new Tyre, new cng Installed, and never touch ups, clean interior. suggests me what will be price of this . i wana purchase it .
    I'v a very recent experience of searching an i-DSI and believe me its really hard to find a good condition home used car. most of the cars are being traded by dealers and not in acceptable condition. So if the car is originally as per your specs. do negotiate but try to finalize the deal. BTW you won't find a really good condition2005 i-DSI in less than 925K here in Isb/Rwp

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    guys your comments needed that how much it effects the CVT if RPM are not stable on ideling and what could be the reason for it if the car is on petrol (i.e. CNG not installed at all)

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    Quote Originally Posted by RollOnBigMaMa View Post
    Thank you sir g.. ur appreciation means a lot.



    yea... thats a fact. Two days back, my cousin was here when I was busy in detailing my idsi. I was all there with a spray gun doing touching tuchching on it i.e where I saw some dirt, Just flushed it with pressure spray and wiped it off... Either ways using a tooth brush to clean tricky spots.

    And in the end, topping every spot up with carnauba. When I was buffing, he said k yaar kia krte ho? aven he muft me kapra laga rhe ho. Jo saaf honi thi wo ho chuki. ab bas kro.

    Maine usy kaha k bhai ja k apna kaam kro aur 1 ghante baad aana. So, he went away.

    and after one hour, I may have had to use some tool to close his jaws and push the tongue back in. He could see his face in the door if it was a mirror.

    He was like "waah yaar, kia kamal ki reflection hai"

    Yaar, bros, I just can't express the feeling I had at that moment.

    bro, as for the brakes, umm, I feel them almost the same as those of idsi as far as abs doesnt kick in. could've been a bit better...



    hahaha... yaar the pics were taken from an IP4. my czn was wd me, don't know what he did with these pics. the middle one is un touched though.

    I am a real newbie when it comes to editing and stuff.. I hate computers except when i use PW...

    I'll Lost some REAL pics tomorrow inshAllah.



    hahaha... yea the trunk carpet. and one more was abt that idsi logo on the engine. I have lost it. anyways to make a new one or where to find another one??
    hahahah... true my younger bro was also amazed after i was done with the car after like 3hrs... sooo much back breaking detailing surely gives ur car a new life... a fresh feel and sometimes its sooo gud that u dont feel like driving the car any more, u just want to keep it parked, sparkling

    yar i dont know what but i found new city brakes to be awesome, i tested them from 180-0km/h and 150-40km/h, i found them amazing... but the car had 185 size tires, not stock ones... or may be my city;s brakes are crappy
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    Quote Originally Posted by RollOnBigMaMa View Post
    I went for these rims on my city. i.e 5 spoke silvers in 15". these are the rims in this sze that can give the best possible look to this car according to its aerodynamic shape. My colour was habanero red pearl.

    What is ur colour code? and in what inches size are you interested.?

    Regards...
    hi bro...yeah i love these rims too but the real problem is that i dont wanna go for aftermarket chinese solutions. the chinese rims are very heavy and not balanced. so until and unless one gets the original honda rims somehow, its very harmful for the car...abt the color, ive gone for silver color

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    Today a strange thing happened. I was in my car trying to warm it up. The blue light for temperature went off and the rpms at that time were 1100+ I waited for the car the to heat enough so that its rpms drop back to 800. As soon as rpms hit 1000 mark the yellow light of eps glowed, I was like what the hell, the first thing I did was I moved the steering it was as it is usually not heavier than normal. I started thinking what to do I reved up my car a little and engaged the reverse gear and upon slightest movement the light went off. I waited in the car for another 2-3 minutes but the light did not show up again. The last time it happened was in july when I drove the car in 2 feet water but at that time the steering was heavy and the light went off and steering became lighter as soon as I left water. I think that may be the dust in the connector is causing that I will get it checked on monday because tomorrow is my class so I hope that everything is fine

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    Quote Originally Posted by RollOnBigMaMa View Post
    hahaha... yea the trunk carpet. and one more was abt that idsi logo on the engine. I have lost it. anyways to make a new one or where to find another one??
    yaarr im not sure if the 05 and 06 city both have similar shape inside of the trunk lid, i think they do have similar design where the carpet fixes so u shud be able to get one too... but where r u gonna get that carpet in the first place? may be honda 3s can help u!!
    same for the IDSI sticker, nothing other then the original IDSI sticker will look good at its place, so try hunting in bilal gunj. go to some engine shop and see if they ve got some L12s in stock and ask em to sell u the sticker may be u ll get a Vtec sticker instead of the IDSI
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    Quote Originally Posted by waleed80 View Post
    wat do u guys suggest to keep the boot clean. sometimes with the vegetables or flour inside, the booot starts giving a very bad look after a while. a carpet can be a solution, but then the loose carpet inside the boot wud keep on slipping here and there. advice pelase
    about 2 weeks ago, i took out all the carpets of my trunk out and cleaned it thoroughly, i found the major dust route (yeah thats what i called it ) and taped it. i didnt fit the carpet back in. after 3-4 days i opened and found that there is some dust in there again :| yesterday (after many days) i opened it again and found out that its almost 30% as dirty as it was when i cleaned it im soooo annoyed, i cannot find where this dust is coming from now... still havent put the carpets back for the same reason.

    btw, for ur problem, i can get a rexene type cloth to put above the original carpet.many people get it layed inside their cars' cabins too, i.e. above the floor carpet... its called "farsshhee" (from farash, i.e. ground or floor) if u dont want it to be sliding here and there, get it stapled to the original carpet of the car. u will need to get that big stapler though. u can get it stapled from any book shop etc.... or better just staple it from the far end, which will be lying close to the back of ur cars' rear seat. dont staple the front portion of it so that u can still clean the carpet below it...
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    Quote Originally Posted by RollOnBigMaMa View Post

    I have kept three full size double barrel shot guns in the new city but those won't fit in idsi...
    Damn, whos the poor guy u headed to meet? 3 double barrel shot guns
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    Quote Originally Posted by sheikh_wah View Post
    guys your comments needed that how much it effects the CVT if RPM are not stable on ideling and what could be the reason for it if the car is on petrol (i.e. CNG not installed at all)
    Unstable RPM/rough idling on a City CVT = gun shot right between the eyes of a human being!!!!

    Sort it out ASAP... check the throttle body, get it serviced if required,plugs, airfilter or whatever it takes... go through the maintainence schedule provided in the main post of this thread...
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    Quote Originally Posted by a_n_memon88 View Post
    Today a strange thing happened. I was in my car trying to warm it up. The blue light for temperature went off and the rpms at that time were 1100+ I waited for the car the to heat enough so that its rpms drop back to 800. As soon as rpms hit 1000 mark the yellow light of eps glowed, I was like what the hell, the first thing I did was I moved the steering it was as it is usually not heavier than normal. I started thinking what to do I reved up my car a little and engaged the reverse gear and upon slightest movement the light went off. I waited in the car for another 2-3 minutes but the light did not show up again. The last time it happened was in july when I drove the car in 2 feet water but at that time the steering was heavy and the light went off and steering became lighter as soon as I left water. I think that may be the dust in the connector is causing that I will get it checked on monday because tomorrow is my class so I hope that everything is fine
    yup... dust/debris in the connector must ve caused it but the light going off without actually restarting the engine... emmm... sounds strange, i thought only restarting could reset it... anyways, do get it checked asap because driving with a hard steering is not easy, thats the reason i used to use hand brake for steering on some turns in my rusty old 86 corolla back in 2001-03
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    absoulty right waleed sb....... i went to honda pit shop and asked and show the car they told 9.40
    u ve already got some really helpful replies... but i wud like to stress on the fact that u need to make absolutely SURE that the mileage is not tempered... there is no way to be sure but look for clues, is the steering wheel worn out a bit? if the steering wheel is shiny at the outer turning circle or if the surface is very smooth, the car probably has three times the mileage stated by the owner

    then look for any worn out paint on the central console, just above the a/c button and the areas around the cassette player housing.

    look for faded paint in the door sills, see if the silver paint of the gear shifter knob is faded etc etc.... pick up small clues for every single panel and then turn these into a conclusion. although all of this might be there even if the car has relatively low milage (due to irresponsible and careless owner) but still, u shud be able to distinguish... after all, its a subjective approach...

    there is another way that i use to check the mileage of cars.though it doesnt work always. i hardly ever let the owner know what and why am i doing but if i do, they are absolutely stunned by this approach here it is...

    the tires of a car have their manufacturing year and week mentioned on them. for a car driven just 52,000kms, it should have either its stock tires that came from the factory or replaced just once.... if the tires are worn out, check the dates on the tires, if they tell u the tires are older then the car itself (if its still on stock tires) the mileage can be assumed to be true. if the tires have a recent date (1 or 2 years old.i.e. much newer then the car) and still they are worn out, u ve got a mileage tempering case here

    u can also estimate the avg kms driven on the car in a particular period by looking at the tires' age. if the meter shows 52000kms, tires show a recent date but they are still half way through their life, this means the car travels a lot and mileage is probably tempered...

    anyways, all of these are just estimates and they can vary a lot by changing the factors, this tire date approach seems to be the last resort for a car that is very well kept where other parts would not speak up the mileage of the car...
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    So today, i gave 3rd application of turtle color magic wax to my car... Looks awesome Mashallah

    here are the (pathetic) pictures Just to give u guys an idea...
    Honda City Fan Club -371928

    Honda City Fan Club -371929

    Honda City Fan Club -371930

    Honda City Fan Club -371931

    Honda City Fan Club -371932

    Honda City Fan Club -371934

    Honda City Fan Club -371935

    Honda City Fan Club -371937

    Honda City Fan Club -371938

    and the mileage and oh, this has increased by 32kms after i took this pic at around 5.30pm today Honda City Fan Club -371941
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