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    Default Honda City Fan Club

    (Maintainence schedule added at the end)

    Hi guys..!!! I thought we should have a Fan club for honda city.Theres already a fourm for City but thats dedicated to city steermatic only.in this club,we shall hav steermatic,idsi,cvt nd all models of city and all their variants. Well the history of this car is somewhat like this...


    First generation (1997-2000) On january 22nd 1997,the first Honda City was launched as a sedan.The city was always made for families and not for racing or sports.Thats why they were always equiped with the latest or sometimes firsts in the market.The interior was always very comforting and the seating position is also very comfortable.It had the options of power windows,and side view mirrors for the top model though they were not there in the base model.Power steeing,front seatbelts,digital clock,AC was available in the basic model too.One the outside,it was very elegantly designed.Beautiful,handsome and decent.Under the hood,it had a 1300cc 16valve SOHC engine ,and was the first car to have 16-valve in 1300cc category.


    Second generation (2000-2003) On January 20th 2000, Honda replaced the original City of 1997 with an update.This model of city had the basic shape of its predecessor.but with new crystal head lamps at the front,power side view mirrors and a chrome lining around the rear numberplate garnish.It was the first car in pakistan to have rear crystal headlights.It had two varients. Exi and Exi-s.The Exi had manual windows and side view mirrors,body colored licence plate garnish(not chromed), semi-fabric seat covers, 165/13 tyres,black door mirrors and no high mount stop lamp.But the Exi-s had all these things in it.The outside looked more gracefull with crystal lights and some new lines on the exterior.The engine in both of them were same.But this one had Programed fuel injection(PGM-Fi).There was optional 4-speed automatic transmission available. The engine engine's maximum horse power=90/6400 and maximum torque =11.5/4700 This model was produced until 2003


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    Third generation (2003-2005) On 23rd August 2003, the third-generation Honda City was launched which had a totally new shape.It was a very stylish and aerodynamic shape introduced in pakistan for the first time.It also was the first car to introduce i-dsi (intelligence-dual and sequential ignation) and CVT (continuously variable transmission) in Pakistan.It had an engine which is higly fuel economic and was build specially for better fuel economy.This car was equipped with power windows(pinch free) , power side view mirrors, tilt adjustable steering column and yet another first,the EPS or electriconic power steering.it made the steering very very soft to turn and also it had no oil used in it so it had no maintanence required.Other featrure of this car is that its the first Euro 3 comliant car in pakistan,that means that its very low on harmful emmisions.The EURO 3 emission standard are applicable in Europe from the year 2000, they are considered to be amongst the most strict standards worldwide. The standard limits emissions to 2.1 g/kWh CO, 0.66 g/kWh HC, 5.0 g/kWh NOx, 0.1 g/kWh particles. Another striking feature is, the boot space(400ltrs).it was bigger then any local car availabe at that time.This car was basically meant for families.it had two glove compartments,a big boot,empty space under the rear seats, four glass holders,and also, a smal space provided in the two front doors.And guess what? All of these options were available in the basic version.This city was divided on just the basis of the drive-train.One was manual,and other was automatic. On the outside,this car was designed very sophisticatedly,it looked smaller than other cars in size from outside but is alot more spacious inside.the body design was an immediate hit among fans and poeple who knew somthing about this type of things.Even the side view mirrors are designed to cut through air.


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    Fourth generation (2005-present) In september 2005,the fourth generation City was released.It was basically a face-lifted version on the previous model.it is known as the City ZX in Thailand, India, the New City in Malaysia and City in Pakistan.The most significant changes are a new exterior (new front grille, new headlamps, new fog lights, newtaillights and bumpers). The front end has been extended forward by 65 mm (2.6 in) while the rear has been extended by 15 mm (0.6 in). The VTEC trim have 15 inch alloy wheels as standard equipment. Interior changes are minor but it does include an armrest for the driver.The rest remains almost same as in the previous model. The engine remains the same but the intake manifold has been modified, resulting a 10% temperature drop in the intake air temperature (IAT), the suspension has been upgraded as well. Honda City in Pakistan are using CVT gearbox for both i-DSI and VTEC variants. The CVT-VTEC 1.5L gearbox is equipped with a Simulated 7-Speed Automated Manual Transmission (AMT) using paddle shift buttons. This is very rare for a subcompact of its class.This VTEC variant was called City-steermatic.

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    Steermatic:- The steermatic is basicaly a name of a technology used in the city VTEC 1.5L model.this model had a different engine than the idsi.it had a 1.5L engine with an auto transmission.this was not any other auto transmission.its is steermatic,means that you can change gears just by push of a button on the steering wheel.this is basically used in F1 racing.It has 2 options,either you drive on fully automated CVT option,or you select a virtual manual transmission.For this,you would change the gears when you want with a push of a button.This model also have an opitiron meter and also stock imported 15" alloy rims with bridgestone Potenza tyres. This technology is very sophisticated and advanced,which,sadly was'nt accepted by the buyers in Pakistan because they simply could not understand it and hence,this particular model of city was discontined.


    I-dsi:- I-dsi stands for Intelligence-dual and sequential ignation.In this type of engine,two spark plugs are employed for each cylinder.That makes 8 spark plugs instead of 4 plugs used by most cars.Adding of an additional plug assures complete burning and utilizing the last drop of fuel thrown into the cylinders which would provide you the best performace and better fuel consumption.Not all the times the 8 plugs are working,but when u push your car through high revs or speeds,all of them work simeltaneously and thats when ypu can feel the difference.But theres one drawback in it,this engine is equiped with 8 valves not 16.Hence it decreased the performance and city seems to be out of breath after 5000RPMs,but as this is basically a family car,performance is not the priority.The best thing about this was the fuel economy,about which,you can read the paragraph below.

    Fifth generation (2009 onwards) On 31th january 2009,the fifth generation of the honda City was launched in Pakistan.Which was an immediate hit among the fans.The previous Honda City was criticised due to its shape,but this time the best thing was the shape,which is even more aerodynamic then the previous one and also resembles the big Honda brothers,Civic and Accord.The best thing about the exterior of this City is the front view of the car.The wide,sleek and elegently designed radiator grill gives a refreashing look to the car.The dimesions of the car are almost similar to those of the older model.The sharp lines on the hood gives the city some attitude on the road.The boot space is increased about 25%,from 400ltrs to 506ltrs.But the good news doesnt end there,under the hood,There is a fairly powerful 1.3L SOHC VTEC engine.which produces a healthy 100bhp,enough for a 1.3L car.But dont think that you would have to lose something on the fuel economy side to get this sort of power.The fuel economy is actually improved.Some indian car expert magzines gave the figures of 22km/ltr for the auto transmission,which is the best in its class.The emission standards are improved as well.Previous city was Euro 3 compliant,but the new city is Euro 4 compliant.which means that your car is enviornment friendly.The only thing which you need to be concered about is the interior,which feels abit cramped campared to the previous City,but there is a reason to it.In the pervious city.the hood and the trunk had only a small portion of the exterior length covered,and the cabin was much bigger,which gave nice interior space,but from outside,the car looked ugly to some eyes.To correct this ugliness,the car was redesigned with increased hood and trunk length from outside,this made it look much better but the drawback was the lesser interior space.The second thing was the missing silver portions on the interior bits and panels of the Pakistani City.The interior would have felt lively only if some spots of it would have been in silver color.But you have alot other advantages,like 15" rims,ABS as standard,vtec engine,details of fuel milage on a special screen in the speedometer,huge boot and many other small things. In a nutshel,the new Honda City is much more refined comparitively to the previous one.The basic things which matter alot have been improved like the engine and the exterior design.The ride of the car is also improved,thanks to the small changes in the suspension.All in all,its still a great package if you see it the value-for-money way in Pakistani market atleast.


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    Fuel Consumption:- The 2005 face-lifted Honda City i-DSI achieved an impressive 26.2km per liter of fuel consumption during a challenge in June 2007. The challenge requires the vehicle to be occupied by 4 persons (including the driver), air conditioning being switched on and a load of luggage. The whole route stretched more than 660km that consists of not only highway driving but also hill climbing. ==================================== Source:-My self mostly,wikipedia and Honda atlas.


    In Short:- In short,according to me,all this proves that Honda City has been a great car for a family to have at all times for more than a decade now.It has proven its self to be a complete car one would need at a price tag it is available for.An im one of the thousands of satisfied owners of it for the past one year. Now all we need are your comments and thoughts upon this small wonder.And also do make sure you post some pix of your own city if you have,of any model.Please feel free to express your feelings about this car.

    Maintainence schedule:-

    There have been a lot of queries regarding the maintainence shedule of Honda City. To help find members and guests find this information easily and quickly, i am writing the complete maintainence shedule which i have been following for the past 5 years for my car (180,000kms).Cost of completing the job may/may not be stated. Some of it may not be the same as that in maintainence book provided by Honda people. In that case, i ll state the reason of the difference.Here goes.

    Oils:-
    Havoline formula 10W30 (3.7ltr) and oil filter change @ 3000kms. Cost 1900rs

    Transmission oil (Manual transmission) 2 ltr @ 40,000kms.
    Honda original oil 1980rs (2ltr)
    Good quality Zic/ micking oil 800rs (2ltr)

    Transmission oil ( Automatic transmission) 2lre @ 35,000kms
    Honda CVT oil ONLY (3.2-3.4L.) 1980rs

    Brake oil
    Keep it topped up and change only if padel feels very soft n goes wayy down.
    Honda original oil

    Clutch operation oil
    Keep it topped up and change only if you it shows signs of trouble

    Parts change:-

    Brake pads change:-
    recommended @ 30,000kms
    Can use any good quality pads. (labour 400rs for 4 wheels plus pads, from 500rs to 2500rs)

    Fuel filter change @ 40,000kms (IF driven on petrol)

    Air filter change @ 10,000kms Original Honda filter is best.Good quality guard filter is good too.
    980rs for OEM, 350rs for Guard filter.

    Spark plugs @ 20,000kms Original Honda plugs (8 plugs for idsi. 4 for steermatic, new city ivtec and before-2003 model City)

    Timing belt. Not required. From 2003 onwards, all honda Citys have timing chains instead of belts.They usually last a life time.

    Tune-ups :-

    Throttle body service @ 20,000kms Cost around 500rs
    Tappets adjustment / valve clearence @ 20,000kms Cost around 500rs

    Brake adjustment front not required after pads change. rear @ 30,000kms (or when front pads changed)

    Expected Life of Some parts:-

    Brake pads 35,000kms if driven aggressively ( cost already mentioned)
    Clutch plate 110,000kms if driven aggressively ( around 2000rs labour and 6000rs for clutch+pressure plate)
    Clutch bearing 150,000kms (So change with clutch plate) (800rs)
    Tuneups can be delayed to 30,000kms IF the car is run in clean enviornment like in Islamabad etc (less dust)
    Engine oil change can be delays to 5,000kms but not good in long run.

    Service Manual Honda City ids-i 2003-2008:-
    http://www.putlocker.com/file/CED54F8B8FB00360

    Tip for keeping automatic transmission (Vario and steermatic) healthy on CNG:-
    Change engine oil at 3,000kms MAX.
    Tranny oil at 30,000kms
    Tune up (throttle and valve clearence) at 20,000kms
    Do NOT ignore idleing problems. Rough idleing means jerks to transmission and thats what kills it on CNG.
    Keep air filter clean and change at 10,000kms max.

    Instrument cluster cleaning DIY
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/d-i...ening-cleaning
    Console box opening and spray painting DIY
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/d-i...-respray-diy-1
    A/c service, the easy way
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/air...ck-c-service-1
    Honda City GTG at kallar kahar
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/get...g-kallar-kahar
    2nd Honda City GTG at kallar kahar
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/get...ar-23-dec-12-a

    Thats all for now.
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    bro the car will be a hit only in pakistan if it meets the following:

    1. crappy engine
    2. over priced
    3. nothing being offered in the price
    4. terrible brakes and suspension

    if any car is good in technology and drive then it is bound to fail over here
    Hail to the King Baeeeebay!!!!

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    aoa, som1 plz tel me about the spares parts of city,how mmuch xpensive they r if compared with civic,in fact m most interested in getting city 02 of 5 or 525 and 155k driven in gd condition,i ve made up my mind on it but one of my friend s told me that city parts r equally xpensive like city ,what do u say plz?
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    lol,,,, plz 1 correction , ..............told me that city parts r equally xpensive like CIVIC ,what do u say plz?
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    @khavi001

    Sir i guess city(00-03) parts r not much expensive as i have one.
    1 - honda air filter=rs 220.
    2 - oil filter=rs 150-175
    3 - Oil 3.5 litre (price depends on which brand u go for)
    4 - Coolant i think it's 4-5 litres..dont know the exact quantity as i didn't checked it.
    5 - brake light bulb=rs 100
    6 - timming belt=rs 650
    7 - timming bearing=rs 650
    8 - head gaskit=rs 1350
    9 - timming belt cover=rs 1000
    10 - generator belt=rs 350
    11 - AC belt=rs 300
    Above are the things which i have recently got changed.As for body parts i didn't had any experiance yet (Alhamdulillah....)
    So i guess the regular maintance parts r not expensive then cultus or santro.
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    bro dont know about civic but the city 2003 and beyond model requires the least maintenance as proven by many owners who have driven the car 50,000+
    Hail to the King Baeeeebay!!!!

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    I have city 2001 and i bought following
    front brake pads Rs 1300
    timing belt Rs 700
    timing bearing Rs 750
    I think among 1.3 lit city is not very expensive.The parts are easily available.
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    good news, city will have iVTEC as well!!!:

    http://asia.vtec.net/Engines/LSERIESG2/index.html
    Hail to the King Baeeeebay!!!!

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    @AHMED BILA ... I M REALLY VERY IMPRESSED FROM UR RESEARCH.I AM ALSO A LOVER OF CITY..CITU IS EVERGREEN. IT IS SIMPLY THE BEST FAMILY CAR.I AM FROM CHAKWAL VERY NEAR U..
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    @Ahmad Bilal
    Great thread - Pleased to see a City Fan Club :p...

    Looks like Honda is going to launch a cosmetic upgrade soon this year - Honday Malaysis Sdn Bhd already did so..

    Updates include front grill change, side mirror turn lights, glass antenna.

    Unable to paste images here so here is the URL...

    http://www.motortrader.com.my/NUS/ar...075/page_m.asp

    @MODS
    I always get this message that only JPGs/GIFs allowed - when I try to upload a JPG or GIF. Tried both lower case and all upper case file extension but didn't work.

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    hhhhmmmmmm im back nd its nice to see this thread growing slowly.

    @khavi
    bro go fot it i wud say.parts are not at all pricy now.they were though,several years ago.But Honda atlas decreased the prices to increase sales in about 2001 and frm then,u can see many hondas above that models.parts are now at very reasonable prices.

    plug 170
    front/rear bumper 4500
    air filter 590
    oil filter 165
    geniun honda oil(not a part but maintanance) 765(exaxt quantity pack 3.7L)
    headlight 3200
    clutch plate 3800-4000(for cultus its 5000)
    front discs 1700

    i think these prices are very reasonable for a car having this technology.and prices ofr 01-03 models are even low.

    so go for it eyes closed(Y)

    @maverick
    thanx bro...i put alot of effort in this thread as begainner.still,i can see many of the points and facts are missing.but now its time for u bros to contribute to this thread.i,too wud b here to make it more and more informative.yeah new city wud b sumwhere near the civic but its true that we cant expect it any earlier than end of 2009.still there are no news frm honda thiland about a city being built or not..so lets wait nd expect the best(Y)

    @retrograde
    nice billo sir,im also im love wid this billo of urs. hope u dnt mind our joint account upon UR billo
    lol...u were an opponent..?? y.?? nd how did u changed ur mind..?? now every one knows ur a gr8 fan of this car.actually it really is an excellent car.many of my friends were saying that i wud regret alot if i buy city.but when i had it in my hands,and offered my frineds to check it out drive etc they were really impressed(all of em were rolla fans) but did not praised just said han theek hy sahi hy.but now,after a year.they all enjoy riding my car specially the back seat

    @sarmad
    ur billo is lookking preet sexy too
    hey can u tell me one thing.for how much did u got those bumper lights/fog lights...???
    are they china or sum better quality.for how long are u using them and are they getting dirty/black or foggy or not..?? one more thing.i hav cng in my car.so where do i put the switch of these lights if i get them...??
    thanx
    @umery
    thank you very much sir...!!!(Y)yeah ur ryt its the best family car in its price.nd yeah,we are very near to each other.if u visit sargodha anytime,just let me know may b we could hav a nice meeting wid each other.

    @cheema sahab
    thanx dude...yeah i think they shud introduce sum changed version.it shud hav a nice mp3 player too,as this is the only thing i dnt like in this car.
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    bro u are more than welcome to share the name. Bro like i mentioned that i was an opponent till i get to ride the car and also analyzing what it is offering.

    my billo is indeed great, not many cars can give you both performance and economy at the same time.

    7 speed mode is simly amazing, totally feels like manual.

    also i pasted a link earlier in which there will be a 1.3 i -vtect engine producing 100ps!!! (probably more than any other 1.3 stock car out there - non turbo ofcourse)!!!

    and the new i-vtec 1.5 will produce 120ps!!!
    Hail to the King Baeeeebay!!!!

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    i had been to layyah for 3 days and had sum good and very very bad experiences with my beloved car too

    good was that it gave me avg of exact 198 kms in a cylinder of cng.i got cng filler from layyah and came to jhang and still there was a bit of cng left in it.
    another good point was that,if any one has been to layyah he/she knows that its all sandy there.80% of earth is sand and rest is soil.i did alot of offroading to get to our agricultural land and there are many small dunes type things of sand which i crossed on my car.so it was nice see that my car did not let me down.the sand there is such idiotic that it tends to get grip of tyre and burry the tyres down into itself.but i did not had any problem

    and now,the bad,worse and the worst happened to my car(though it was my own fault not car)
    there a dead strieght road passing through a desert.its a very nice road and there is literally no traffic on that road.i was doing about 125km/h there.my dad was along wid me.i saw a brick laying in the middle of the road.as the road is not so wide i decided to drive over the brick and so i did.then again another brick came i did the same.i was wondering where the hell these bricks were coming from.
    then again i saw a brick,decided to do the same thing.but what i didnt saw was that it was not LYING,it was standing horizontally.but i never knew that.even worst,when i reached that point,there were suddenly few bumps in the road which made the car go up nd down....there i was,the brick strike the oil chamber of my beloved car as hard as it can and suddenly there was a huge bang and all the oil was drained in few seconds.the brick aclso damaged the bumper badly.

    i stopped immediately and saw that its undrive-able now.got a very very nice scolding frm dad(as i shud have).

    and there we were,in the middle of a desert.37kms behind us and 25kms ahead us.there were no signs of any town or village.
    then we called my dad's friends.they sent a taxi nd then we towed the car to a small qasba(thanx GOD there was one after 3kms).parked the car thee for night,next day got the chamber oppened as silver welded as there was no choice other than this.either get it welded,or tow it 300kms to multan.

    now today i wud go to honda sgd and ask them to get me a new chamber.
    ohhhhh......that was a really bad experience...!!
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    bro how does the 7 speed mode works..?? does it changes gears it self if u drivew at high rmps or not...???

    secondly,im reading the article and its gr8 to hav a newly designed engine.honda engineers are never free,they are always working to keep the brand up to date with the latest technology.
    in this idsi L12 city,the only disadvantage was the underpowerness.if that goes away,nothing comes near to city then.it wud rock the roads with its superb performace and economy in a family car. it wud b 100% balanced.
    now i hope that its soon launched here in Pakistan(Y)
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    another bad experice was that on our way back,a huge 22 wheeler was ahead of me.it was the same road.and its not too wide.i had been driving behind it for the past 10 mins.then i slowed down abit,let that huge idiot thing go far off my car,then accelerated from a long distance reached 120km/h to overtake the truck as fast as i can,but as i reached it,the ba___rd turned to right forcing me to brake hard i was just beside his huge tyres.i could'nt stop at that speed so turned the car to right and went off the road strieght into a sand dune at about 80kmh.the bumper hit the sand hard as was dably deshape and damaged frm bottom.the sheet underneath the engine also got damaged.i was so much furious at the truck wala i wanted to kill him.
    this was the worst trip i hav ever had on my car...and yeah,got scolded frm dad again
    now all i need is a new chamber,new bumper,engine sheet and a big bigger biggest NAZAR WATTO i can get
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    dude so sorry to hear about your sad tale. hope u get ur ride fixed.

    yaar 7 speed mode is unique to steermatic in this price range, you have a series of 7 virtual gears (buttons on the steering) by which you can up and down shift your car just like a manual..

    that is the great advantage of steermatic, full auto + manual mode.
    Hail to the King Baeeeebay!!!!

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    @retrograde
    yeah but does it changes gear itself if u take it to very high rpms or it keeps on running in the same gear...??

    @waqar cheema
    wow,nice information u got for us.i like the new grill and side mirror.hope we soon get it here inshallah.
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    Here is my Billo....!!!

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    dude the gear will stay till the rpm reaches red zone and then it will shift to the next - its lotsa fun but u gotta get used to it a little bit....

    BTW: nice ride but the first one is photoshopped billo

    for your entertainment here is a video of steermatic vs 1.3 manual lancer:

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=40LfiDvYVUA
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    Sir g lo ai pics ny kuj mere kol pata nai kisi Pw Member di si ai city for sale i think.


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