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    Default Honda City Fan Club

    (Maintainence schedule added at the end)

    Hi guys..!!! I thought we should have a Fan club for honda city.Theres already a fourm for City but thats dedicated to city steermatic only.in this club,we shall hav steermatic,idsi,cvt nd all models of city and all their variants. Well the history of this car is somewhat like this...


    First generation (1997-2000) On january 22nd 1997,the first Honda City was launched as a sedan.The city was always made for families and not for racing or sports.Thats why they were always equiped with the latest or sometimes firsts in the market.The interior was always very comforting and the seating position is also very comfortable.It had the options of power windows,and side view mirrors for the top model though they were not there in the base model.Power steeing,front seatbelts,digital clock,AC was available in the basic model too.One the outside,it was very elegantly designed.Beautiful,handsome and decent.Under the hood,it had a 1300cc 16valve SOHC engine ,and was the first car to have 16-valve in 1300cc category.


    Second generation (2000-2003) On January 20th 2000, Honda replaced the original City of 1997 with an update.This model of city had the basic shape of its predecessor.but with new crystal head lamps at the front,power side view mirrors and a chrome lining around the rear numberplate garnish.It was the first car in pakistan to have rear crystal headlights.It had two varients. Exi and Exi-s.The Exi had manual windows and side view mirrors,body colored licence plate garnish(not chromed), semi-fabric seat covers, 165/13 tyres,black door mirrors and no high mount stop lamp.But the Exi-s had all these things in it.The outside looked more gracefull with crystal lights and some new lines on the exterior.The engine in both of them were same.But this one had Programed fuel injection(PGM-Fi).There was optional 4-speed automatic transmission available. The engine engine's maximum horse power=90/6400 and maximum torque =11.5/4700 This model was produced until 2003


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    Third generation (2003-2005) On 23rd August 2003, the third-generation Honda City was launched which had a totally new shape.It was a very stylish and aerodynamic shape introduced in pakistan for the first time.It also was the first car to introduce i-dsi (intelligence-dual and sequential ignation) and CVT (continuously variable transmission) in Pakistan.It had an engine which is higly fuel economic and was build specially for better fuel economy.This car was equipped with power windows(pinch free) , power side view mirrors, tilt adjustable steering column and yet another first,the EPS or electriconic power steering.it made the steering very very soft to turn and also it had no oil used in it so it had no maintanence required.Other featrure of this car is that its the first Euro 3 comliant car in pakistan,that means that its very low on harmful emmisions.The EURO 3 emission standard are applicable in Europe from the year 2000, they are considered to be amongst the most strict standards worldwide. The standard limits emissions to 2.1 g/kWh CO, 0.66 g/kWh HC, 5.0 g/kWh NOx, 0.1 g/kWh particles. Another striking feature is, the boot space(400ltrs).it was bigger then any local car availabe at that time.This car was basically meant for families.it had two glove compartments,a big boot,empty space under the rear seats, four glass holders,and also, a smal space provided in the two front doors.And guess what? All of these options were available in the basic version.This city was divided on just the basis of the drive-train.One was manual,and other was automatic. On the outside,this car was designed very sophisticatedly,it looked smaller than other cars in size from outside but is alot more spacious inside.the body design was an immediate hit among fans and poeple who knew somthing about this type of things.Even the side view mirrors are designed to cut through air.


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    Fourth generation (2005-present) In september 2005,the fourth generation City was released.It was basically a face-lifted version on the previous model.it is known as the City ZX in Thailand, India, the New City in Malaysia and City in Pakistan.The most significant changes are a new exterior (new front grille, new headlamps, new fog lights, newtaillights and bumpers). The front end has been extended forward by 65 mm (2.6 in) while the rear has been extended by 15 mm (0.6 in). The VTEC trim have 15 inch alloy wheels as standard equipment. Interior changes are minor but it does include an armrest for the driver.The rest remains almost same as in the previous model. The engine remains the same but the intake manifold has been modified, resulting a 10% temperature drop in the intake air temperature (IAT), the suspension has been upgraded as well. Honda City in Pakistan are using CVT gearbox for both i-DSI and VTEC variants. The CVT-VTEC 1.5L gearbox is equipped with a Simulated 7-Speed Automated Manual Transmission (AMT) using paddle shift buttons. This is very rare for a subcompact of its class.This VTEC variant was called City-steermatic.

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    Steermatic:- The steermatic is basicaly a name of a technology used in the city VTEC 1.5L model.this model had a different engine than the idsi.it had a 1.5L engine with an auto transmission.this was not any other auto transmission.its is steermatic,means that you can change gears just by push of a button on the steering wheel.this is basically used in F1 racing.It has 2 options,either you drive on fully automated CVT option,or you select a virtual manual transmission.For this,you would change the gears when you want with a push of a button.This model also have an opitiron meter and also stock imported 15" alloy rims with bridgestone Potenza tyres. This technology is very sophisticated and advanced,which,sadly was'nt accepted by the buyers in Pakistan because they simply could not understand it and hence,this particular model of city was discontined.


    I-dsi:- I-dsi stands for Intelligence-dual and sequential ignation.In this type of engine,two spark plugs are employed for each cylinder.That makes 8 spark plugs instead of 4 plugs used by most cars.Adding of an additional plug assures complete burning and utilizing the last drop of fuel thrown into the cylinders which would provide you the best performace and better fuel consumption.Not all the times the 8 plugs are working,but when u push your car through high revs or speeds,all of them work simeltaneously and thats when ypu can feel the difference.But theres one drawback in it,this engine is equiped with 8 valves not 16.Hence it decreased the performance and city seems to be out of breath after 5000RPMs,but as this is basically a family car,performance is not the priority.The best thing about this was the fuel economy,about which,you can read the paragraph below.

    Fifth generation (2009 onwards) On 31th january 2009,the fifth generation of the honda City was launched in Pakistan.Which was an immediate hit among the fans.The previous Honda City was criticised due to its shape,but this time the best thing was the shape,which is even more aerodynamic then the previous one and also resembles the big Honda brothers,Civic and Accord.The best thing about the exterior of this City is the front view of the car.The wide,sleek and elegently designed radiator grill gives a refreashing look to the car.The dimesions of the car are almost similar to those of the older model.The sharp lines on the hood gives the city some attitude on the road.The boot space is increased about 25%,from 400ltrs to 506ltrs.But the good news doesnt end there,under the hood,There is a fairly powerful 1.3L SOHC VTEC engine.which produces a healthy 100bhp,enough for a 1.3L car.But dont think that you would have to lose something on the fuel economy side to get this sort of power.The fuel economy is actually improved.Some indian car expert magzines gave the figures of 22km/ltr for the auto transmission,which is the best in its class.The emission standards are improved as well.Previous city was Euro 3 compliant,but the new city is Euro 4 compliant.which means that your car is enviornment friendly.The only thing which you need to be concered about is the interior,which feels abit cramped campared to the previous City,but there is a reason to it.In the pervious city.the hood and the trunk had only a small portion of the exterior length covered,and the cabin was much bigger,which gave nice interior space,but from outside,the car looked ugly to some eyes.To correct this ugliness,the car was redesigned with increased hood and trunk length from outside,this made it look much better but the drawback was the lesser interior space.The second thing was the missing silver portions on the interior bits and panels of the Pakistani City.The interior would have felt lively only if some spots of it would have been in silver color.But you have alot other advantages,like 15" rims,ABS as standard,vtec engine,details of fuel milage on a special screen in the speedometer,huge boot and many other small things. In a nutshel,the new Honda City is much more refined comparitively to the previous one.The basic things which matter alot have been improved like the engine and the exterior design.The ride of the car is also improved,thanks to the small changes in the suspension.All in all,its still a great package if you see it the value-for-money way in Pakistani market atleast.


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    Fuel Consumption:- The 2005 face-lifted Honda City i-DSI achieved an impressive 26.2km per liter of fuel consumption during a challenge in June 2007. The challenge requires the vehicle to be occupied by 4 persons (including the driver), air conditioning being switched on and a load of luggage. The whole route stretched more than 660km that consists of not only highway driving but also hill climbing. ==================================== Source:-My self mostly,wikipedia and Honda atlas.


    In Short:- In short,according to me,all this proves that Honda City has been a great car for a family to have at all times for more than a decade now.It has proven its self to be a complete car one would need at a price tag it is available for.An im one of the thousands of satisfied owners of it for the past one year. Now all we need are your comments and thoughts upon this small wonder.And also do make sure you post some pix of your own city if you have,of any model.Please feel free to express your feelings about this car.

    Maintainence schedule:-

    There have been a lot of queries regarding the maintainence shedule of Honda City. To help find members and guests find this information easily and quickly, i am writing the complete maintainence shedule which i have been following for the past 5 years for my car (180,000kms).Cost of completing the job may/may not be stated. Some of it may not be the same as that in maintainence book provided by Honda people. In that case, i ll state the reason of the difference.Here goes.

    Oils:-
    Havoline formula 10W30 (3.7ltr) and oil filter change @ 3000kms. Cost 1900rs

    Transmission oil (Manual transmission) 2 ltr @ 40,000kms.
    Honda original oil 1980rs (2ltr)
    Good quality Zic/ micking oil 800rs (2ltr)

    Transmission oil ( Automatic transmission) 2lre @ 35,000kms
    Honda CVT oil ONLY (3.2-3.4L.) 1980rs

    Brake oil
    Keep it topped up and change only if padel feels very soft n goes wayy down.
    Honda original oil

    Clutch operation oil
    Keep it topped up and change only if you it shows signs of trouble

    Parts change:-

    Brake pads change:-
    recommended @ 30,000kms
    Can use any good quality pads. (labour 400rs for 4 wheels plus pads, from 500rs to 2500rs)

    Fuel filter change @ 40,000kms (IF driven on petrol)

    Air filter change @ 10,000kms Original Honda filter is best.Good quality guard filter is good too.
    980rs for OEM, 350rs for Guard filter.

    Spark plugs @ 20,000kms Original Honda plugs (8 plugs for idsi. 4 for steermatic, new city ivtec and before-2003 model City)

    Timing belt. Not required. From 2003 onwards, all honda Citys have timing chains instead of belts.They usually last a life time.

    Tune-ups :-

    Throttle body service @ 20,000kms Cost around 500rs
    Tappets adjustment / valve clearence @ 20,000kms Cost around 500rs

    Brake adjustment front not required after pads change. rear @ 30,000kms (or when front pads changed)

    Expected Life of Some parts:-

    Brake pads 35,000kms if driven aggressively ( cost already mentioned)
    Clutch plate 110,000kms if driven aggressively ( around 2000rs labour and 6000rs for clutch+pressure plate)
    Clutch bearing 150,000kms (So change with clutch plate) (800rs)
    Tuneups can be delayed to 30,000kms IF the car is run in clean enviornment like in Islamabad etc (less dust)
    Engine oil change can be delays to 5,000kms but not good in long run.

    Service Manual Honda City ids-i 2003-2008:-
    http://www.putlocker.com/file/CED54F8B8FB00360

    Tip for keeping automatic transmission (Vario and steermatic) healthy on CNG:-
    Change engine oil at 3,000kms MAX.
    Tranny oil at 30,000kms
    Tune up (throttle and valve clearence) at 20,000kms
    Do NOT ignore idleing problems. Rough idleing means jerks to transmission and thats what kills it on CNG.
    Keep air filter clean and change at 10,000kms max.

    Instrument cluster cleaning DIY
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/d-i...ening-cleaning
    Console box opening and spray painting DIY
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/d-i...-respray-diy-1
    A/c service, the easy way
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/air...ck-c-service-1
    Honda City GTG at kallar kahar
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/get...g-kallar-kahar
    2nd Honda City GTG at kallar kahar
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/get...ar-23-dec-12-a

    Thats all for now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by darthvader View Post
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    I have a City 2011 with 195/60/R15 tyres with 1050KM total mileage. My dad went to Lahore yesterday from Rawalpindi through Motorway (almost 400km). I'm afraid the fuel consumption was very high. From the start of the M2 to its end the total fuel cost was nearly 2900rs and the fuel gauge was very near empty. When he came back the average fuel on the meter shows 15.2km/L which is incredibly low, it should be well over 17 considering the way my dad drives. What is wrong and should I have it checked?
    get ur car checked dude... my 2011 gave me 20 KPL on normal road in highway driving with full AC and in intercity, 15KPL with full AC, maximum gear being deployed the third forward...

    BTW, any issues of knocking in the engine or missing..?
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    I love this car very much because the features it has is unmatchable.In my opinion this is the best car in its segment with all the luxurious features.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fahad_reloaded View Post
    big time khwari today..... Interior cleaning starting shortly, update ab progress in evening.
    Here i come, started @ 9 am and ended 5 pm. Saturday is gone, Just too tired to explain but outcome is unbelieveable AlhamdULillah..... Here come the images..... these snaps were taken before cleaning
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    next coming is during the cleaning process
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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmadbila View Post
    coolant level slowly decreasing in the reservoir is normal. i also put some water in there once or twice a month but it shud not decrease as fast as u are telling.
    get ur car checked. somethings wrong for sure and it can harm the engine if u ignore it.
    thank you for the reply ahmad bhai.. actually i went to the mechanic and i did a very silly mistake i was filling the reservoir full to its neck whereas the max level was well below. so now i won't do it
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    here come the most satisfying images for me
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    i also wanted to increase the average of my car. so i went to the mechanic and he said that he will clean the fuel injections, check the throttle body and tune the car and for all of this he said he will charge PKR 1,000.. i don't know if this is the correct price or not...
    he said that after doing all of this the car should easily give around 15km/L...
    also he said that after he is done with all this work the Check engine light will show and for that he will only TRY to get rid of it otherwise i will have to get it checked... i don't know if this is normal or not... let me know about this
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    final ones.........
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    By the Grace of Allah AlMighty My honda city i-dsi mileage rocks..... I am waiting the fuel tank to get emptied then i will post exact mileage
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    What should be the price of manual city 2007 (black color) CNG installed? Engine is in awesome condition. bonnet and right fender/door painted. bonnet painted but not accidented. front grill with chassis plate is totally genuine. and right rear fender has some small scratches/dents. the seller is 1st owner. All others parts are genuine. Mileage around 75000 kms.
    Price??
    Please help as i don't know much about cars.

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    Well, Mr reloaded, indeed a good job u've done to ur city... I have to do it as well but not getting ample time for the process...

    Plz share how did u manage to open the pillar plastic covers without opening the seat belts?? And have u got ur silver panels repainted or are they in their genuine paint?

    Did u face any problems during interior cleaning? the products u used for the job???

    Also, whats the switch near the side view mirror adjustment for?? u car doesnot have fog lights...
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    Quote Originally Posted by RollOnBigMaMa View Post
    Well, Mr reloaded, indeed a good job u've done to ur city... I have to do it as well but not getting ample time for the process...

    Plz share how did u manage to open the pillar plastic covers without opening the seat belts?? And have u got ur silver panels repainted or are they in their genuine paint?

    Did u face any problems during interior cleaning? the products u used for the job???

    Also, whats the switch near the side view mirror adjustment for?? u car doesnot have fog lights...
    Thanks for the appreciation....

    1)For plastic covers u have to open up the bottom nut of the seatbelts and thats it... waise it is very delicate process and u have to sync all the plastic covers otherwise u may break the clips and it is really hard to get genuine clips in open market

    2) About panels, i am the genuine stuff liking guy, so it is still genuine
    3) problems of course lot of them products used for cleaning is just surf + water mixture and then leather and wax spray afterwards
    4) For the fog ligths switch, i had them installed previously but once it got broken so i removed the lights but switch is still there, may b i need to reinstall the fog lights.......

    BTW, you have i-DSI or i-VTEC city?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ay7791 View Post
    What should be the price of manual city 2007 (black color) CNG installed? Engine is in awesome condition. bonnet and right fender/door painted. bonnet painted but not accidented. front grill with chassis plate is totally genuine. and right rear fender has some small scratches/dents. the seller is 1st owner. All others parts are genuine. Mileage around 75000 kms.
    Price??
    Please help as i don't know much about cars.
    Didn't this look a little weird that bonnet painted but not accidented . According to my knowledge for black color 2007 i-DSI with so much touching, it should be in range of 9.5 -9.7lac max.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fahad_reloaded View Post
    Thanks for the appreciation....

    1)For plastic covers u have to open up the bottom nut of the seatbelts and thats it... waise it is very delicate process and u have to sync all the plastic covers otherwise u may break the clips and it is really hard to get genuine clips in open market

    2) About panels, i am the genuine stuff liking guy, so it is still genuine
    3) problems of course lot of them products used for cleaning is just surf + water mixture and then leather and wax spray afterwards
    4) For the fog ligths switch, i had them installed previously but once it got broken so i removed the lights but switch is still there, may b i need to reinstall the fog lights.......

    BTW, you have i-DSI or i-VTEC city?
    Well, thank you dude for the explaination...

    and I have both citys... idsi MT 2004 and Ivtec MT 2012...

    idsi is granite verde metallic colour, same as urs, but different though.. and 2012 vtec is habanero red pearl...

    a pic of the vtec :

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    i also travel daily to islamabad for my job...

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    @ahmad
    FIrst of all buddy bundle of thanks yar...i called u in hurry i was finding the tires for my city & Alhumdulillah ended up buying DUNLOP spi (/185/R13), i m feeling much much difference in drive , alot comfortable , not bumpy and most importantly steering gets soft alot ....bro thanx alot for always helping me and others...
    btw tire costed me 5500 rs / tire.I ll post the pics insALLAH
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    Does any one knows rear view camera solution for i-dsi model. I mean go for which lcd and night vision cam. Plz comment only if u have used
    Dont compromise on tyres,since they are yours only contact with the road...

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    Quote Originally Posted by shazi_00 View Post
    @ahmad
    FIrst of all buddy bundle of thanks yar...i called u in hurry i was finding the tires for my city & Alhumdulillah ended up buying DUNLOP spi (/185/R13), i m feeling much much difference in drive , alot comfortable , not bumpy and most importantly steering gets soft alot ....bro thanx alot for always helping me and others...
    btw tire costed me 5500 rs / tire.I ll post the pics insALLAH
    dude, didn't u get the tires (very) cheap...?

    Quote Originally Posted by fahad_reloaded View Post
    Does any one knows rear view camera solution for i-dsi model. I mean go for which lcd and night vision cam. Plz comment only if u have used
    U can choose any universal LCD with any universal camera dude...! If u need suggestions on the models, post a thread in the appropriate section...

    BTW, just curious, u said ur fog lights got broken, but yaar, the cuttings on the front bumper are still intact... did u get a new bumper???

    Quote Originally Posted by ahmadbila View Post
    ohh... yes... the entry test exams n stuff... a lot of my friends n ppl i know also have the next 4-5 months very busy due to the same.... best of luck bro and i hope that ur cousins recovers soon.. Ameen!

    well, i havent used Nufinish yet. Usman aka vague_one said u dont need it yet until ur car loses wax. i.e. i ll have to get a fresh surface out to wax it again. it may last a year abroad i.e. places with softer weather conditions and dust but nothing stand a chance is our enviornment :| theres NO shortcut, u gotta keep redoing ur car once in a week if u want it shiny all the times...

    yar a chimta (control arm) normally has 2 bushes and one ball joint. the bushes can be replaced countless times but the ball joint cannot be repaired 2nd time. even after first time repair, it lasts hardly a few months so u DO need to replace the whole control arm just because of the ball joint heres a picture explaining things...Honda City Fan Club - 377454

    well, i'd say get ur dashboard lights replaced... IF u can find that screw that i told u to SCREW
    Well thansk for the info bro... I have been thinking of changing my idsi to red colour like huzaifaa, but then i thought the way I keep mine dirty for 2 months and then clean it up, the day won't be far when the red will become CHITAA!...

    and the screw... I am screwed...

    couldn't screw that screw... that screw has been scerewing me up for a long time...

    until u tell me where to find it...

    Quote Originally Posted by ahmadbila View Post
    Ha Ha... its brothers like u who keep me motivated to keep reporting to the thread and even kick start DIYs just by reading a few posts here Thanks to each n everyone of u who have turned this simple thread into a proper community...

    Let me get myself a civic and then i ll make a civic fan club too, for corolla fan club, contact @mubeenshahid
    Toyota.. mubeenshahid

    and u with a civic,

    Quote Originally Posted by haa0518 View Post
    i also wanted to increase the average of my car. so i went to the mechanic and he said that he will clean the fuel injections, check the throttle body and tune the car and for all of this he said he will charge PKR 1,000.. i don't know if this is the correct price or not...
    he said that after doing all of this the car should easily give around 15km/L...
    also he said that after he is done with all this work the Check engine light will show and for that he will only TRY to get rid of it otherwise i will have to get it checked... i don't know if this is normal or not... let me know about this
    Better go to a mechanic who really has an electronic scanner for ur car... what the mechanic actually meant was that he'll open up ur engine, screw it up completely, ruin some sensors and then the yellow light will show up.

    new sensor may cost u upto 2 thousand rupees... better not go for that fuel saving...


    Quote Originally Posted by fahad_reloaded View Post
    By the Grace of Allah AlMighty My honda city i-dsi mileage rocks..... I am waiting the fuel tank to get emptied then i will post exact mileage
    Honda City Fan Club - 377822
    u topped up the tank again, didn't u...
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    As far as i could gather that average mileage of City iDSI is 130-140 Km on CNG. Now i want to know what is the calculation method..do you guys include the mileage after it is on "Red light" or not? Or it includes every kilometre until the cylinder is not empty?

    Secondly, I got throttle serviced, tapped adjusted and new spark plugs..am still getting around 110 per cylinder..what could be the reason?

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    @fahad Alllaaa alllaaa job done on interior , congtarzzzzzz

    I hope you keep it like this & next time wont wait to increase the weight of the ride that much

    saw some wet marks on carpet , driving side , do dry it other wise bad smell

    good luck
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