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    Default Honda City Fan Club

    (Maintainence schedule added at the end)

    Hi guys..!!! I thought we should have a Fan club for honda city.Theres already a fourm for City but thats dedicated to city steermatic only.in this club,we shall hav steermatic,idsi,cvt nd all models of city and all their variants. Well the history of this car is somewhat like this...


    First generation (1997-2000) On january 22nd 1997,the first Honda City was launched as a sedan.The city was always made for families and not for racing or sports.Thats why they were always equiped with the latest or sometimes firsts in the market.The interior was always very comforting and the seating position is also very comfortable.It had the options of power windows,and side view mirrors for the top model though they were not there in the base model.Power steeing,front seatbelts,digital clock,AC was available in the basic model too.One the outside,it was very elegantly designed.Beautiful,handsome and decent.Under the hood,it had a 1300cc 16valve SOHC engine ,and was the first car to have 16-valve in 1300cc category.


    Second generation (2000-2003) On January 20th 2000, Honda replaced the original City of 1997 with an update.This model of city had the basic shape of its predecessor.but with new crystal head lamps at the front,power side view mirrors and a chrome lining around the rear numberplate garnish.It was the first car in pakistan to have rear crystal headlights.It had two varients. Exi and Exi-s.The Exi had manual windows and side view mirrors,body colored licence plate garnish(not chromed), semi-fabric seat covers, 165/13 tyres,black door mirrors and no high mount stop lamp.But the Exi-s had all these things in it.The outside looked more gracefull with crystal lights and some new lines on the exterior.The engine in both of them were same.But this one had Programed fuel injection(PGM-Fi).There was optional 4-speed automatic transmission available. The engine engine's maximum horse power=90/6400 and maximum torque =11.5/4700 This model was produced until 2003


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    Third generation (2003-2005) On 23rd August 2003, the third-generation Honda City was launched which had a totally new shape.It was a very stylish and aerodynamic shape introduced in pakistan for the first time.It also was the first car to introduce i-dsi (intelligence-dual and sequential ignation) and CVT (continuously variable transmission) in Pakistan.It had an engine which is higly fuel economic and was build specially for better fuel economy.This car was equipped with power windows(pinch free) , power side view mirrors, tilt adjustable steering column and yet another first,the EPS or electriconic power steering.it made the steering very very soft to turn and also it had no oil used in it so it had no maintanence required.Other featrure of this car is that its the first Euro 3 comliant car in pakistan,that means that its very low on harmful emmisions.The EURO 3 emission standard are applicable in Europe from the year 2000, they are considered to be amongst the most strict standards worldwide. The standard limits emissions to 2.1 g/kWh CO, 0.66 g/kWh HC, 5.0 g/kWh NOx, 0.1 g/kWh particles. Another striking feature is, the boot space(400ltrs).it was bigger then any local car availabe at that time.This car was basically meant for families.it had two glove compartments,a big boot,empty space under the rear seats, four glass holders,and also, a smal space provided in the two front doors.And guess what? All of these options were available in the basic version.This city was divided on just the basis of the drive-train.One was manual,and other was automatic. On the outside,this car was designed very sophisticatedly,it looked smaller than other cars in size from outside but is alot more spacious inside.the body design was an immediate hit among fans and poeple who knew somthing about this type of things.Even the side view mirrors are designed to cut through air.


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    Fourth generation (2005-present) In september 2005,the fourth generation City was released.It was basically a face-lifted version on the previous model.it is known as the City ZX in Thailand, India, the New City in Malaysia and City in Pakistan.The most significant changes are a new exterior (new front grille, new headlamps, new fog lights, newtaillights and bumpers). The front end has been extended forward by 65 mm (2.6 in) while the rear has been extended by 15 mm (0.6 in). The VTEC trim have 15 inch alloy wheels as standard equipment. Interior changes are minor but it does include an armrest for the driver.The rest remains almost same as in the previous model. The engine remains the same but the intake manifold has been modified, resulting a 10% temperature drop in the intake air temperature (IAT), the suspension has been upgraded as well. Honda City in Pakistan are using CVT gearbox for both i-DSI and VTEC variants. The CVT-VTEC 1.5L gearbox is equipped with a Simulated 7-Speed Automated Manual Transmission (AMT) using paddle shift buttons. This is very rare for a subcompact of its class.This VTEC variant was called City-steermatic.

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    Steermatic:- The steermatic is basicaly a name of a technology used in the city VTEC 1.5L model.this model had a different engine than the idsi.it had a 1.5L engine with an auto transmission.this was not any other auto transmission.its is steermatic,means that you can change gears just by push of a button on the steering wheel.this is basically used in F1 racing.It has 2 options,either you drive on fully automated CVT option,or you select a virtual manual transmission.For this,you would change the gears when you want with a push of a button.This model also have an opitiron meter and also stock imported 15" alloy rims with bridgestone Potenza tyres. This technology is very sophisticated and advanced,which,sadly was'nt accepted by the buyers in Pakistan because they simply could not understand it and hence,this particular model of city was discontined.


    I-dsi:- I-dsi stands for Intelligence-dual and sequential ignation.In this type of engine,two spark plugs are employed for each cylinder.That makes 8 spark plugs instead of 4 plugs used by most cars.Adding of an additional plug assures complete burning and utilizing the last drop of fuel thrown into the cylinders which would provide you the best performace and better fuel consumption.Not all the times the 8 plugs are working,but when u push your car through high revs or speeds,all of them work simeltaneously and thats when ypu can feel the difference.But theres one drawback in it,this engine is equiped with 8 valves not 16.Hence it decreased the performance and city seems to be out of breath after 5000RPMs,but as this is basically a family car,performance is not the priority.The best thing about this was the fuel economy,about which,you can read the paragraph below.

    Fifth generation (2009 onwards) On 31th january 2009,the fifth generation of the honda City was launched in Pakistan.Which was an immediate hit among the fans.The previous Honda City was criticised due to its shape,but this time the best thing was the shape,which is even more aerodynamic then the previous one and also resembles the big Honda brothers,Civic and Accord.The best thing about the exterior of this City is the front view of the car.The wide,sleek and elegently designed radiator grill gives a refreashing look to the car.The dimesions of the car are almost similar to those of the older model.The sharp lines on the hood gives the city some attitude on the road.The boot space is increased about 25%,from 400ltrs to 506ltrs.But the good news doesnt end there,under the hood,There is a fairly powerful 1.3L SOHC VTEC engine.which produces a healthy 100bhp,enough for a 1.3L car.But dont think that you would have to lose something on the fuel economy side to get this sort of power.The fuel economy is actually improved.Some indian car expert magzines gave the figures of 22km/ltr for the auto transmission,which is the best in its class.The emission standards are improved as well.Previous city was Euro 3 compliant,but the new city is Euro 4 compliant.which means that your car is enviornment friendly.The only thing which you need to be concered about is the interior,which feels abit cramped campared to the previous City,but there is a reason to it.In the pervious city.the hood and the trunk had only a small portion of the exterior length covered,and the cabin was much bigger,which gave nice interior space,but from outside,the car looked ugly to some eyes.To correct this ugliness,the car was redesigned with increased hood and trunk length from outside,this made it look much better but the drawback was the lesser interior space.The second thing was the missing silver portions on the interior bits and panels of the Pakistani City.The interior would have felt lively only if some spots of it would have been in silver color.But you have alot other advantages,like 15" rims,ABS as standard,vtec engine,details of fuel milage on a special screen in the speedometer,huge boot and many other small things. In a nutshel,the new Honda City is much more refined comparitively to the previous one.The basic things which matter alot have been improved like the engine and the exterior design.The ride of the car is also improved,thanks to the small changes in the suspension.All in all,its still a great package if you see it the value-for-money way in Pakistani market atleast.


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    Fuel Consumption:- The 2005 face-lifted Honda City i-DSI achieved an impressive 26.2km per liter of fuel consumption during a challenge in June 2007. The challenge requires the vehicle to be occupied by 4 persons (including the driver), air conditioning being switched on and a load of luggage. The whole route stretched more than 660km that consists of not only highway driving but also hill climbing. ==================================== Source:-My self mostly,wikipedia and Honda atlas.


    In Short:- In short,according to me,all this proves that Honda City has been a great car for a family to have at all times for more than a decade now.It has proven its self to be a complete car one would need at a price tag it is available for.An im one of the thousands of satisfied owners of it for the past one year. Now all we need are your comments and thoughts upon this small wonder.And also do make sure you post some pix of your own city if you have,of any model.Please feel free to express your feelings about this car.

    Maintainence schedule:-

    There have been a lot of queries regarding the maintainence shedule of Honda City. To help find members and guests find this information easily and quickly, i am writing the complete maintainence shedule which i have been following for the past 5 years for my car (180,000kms).Cost of completing the job may/may not be stated. Some of it may not be the same as that in maintainence book provided by Honda people. In that case, i ll state the reason of the difference.Here goes.

    Oils:-
    Havoline formula 10W30 (3.7ltr) and oil filter change @ 3000kms. Cost 1900rs

    Transmission oil (Manual transmission) 2 ltr @ 40,000kms.
    Honda original oil 1980rs (2ltr)
    Good quality Zic/ micking oil 800rs (2ltr)

    Transmission oil ( Automatic transmission) 2lre @ 35,000kms
    Honda CVT oil ONLY (3.2-3.4L.) 1980rs

    Brake oil
    Keep it topped up and change only if padel feels very soft n goes wayy down.
    Honda original oil

    Clutch operation oil
    Keep it topped up and change only if you it shows signs of trouble

    Parts change:-

    Brake pads change:-
    recommended @ 30,000kms
    Can use any good quality pads. (labour 400rs for 4 wheels plus pads, from 500rs to 2500rs)

    Fuel filter change @ 40,000kms (IF driven on petrol)

    Air filter change @ 10,000kms Original Honda filter is best.Good quality guard filter is good too.
    980rs for OEM, 350rs for Guard filter.

    Spark plugs @ 20,000kms Original Honda plugs (8 plugs for idsi. 4 for steermatic, new city ivtec and before-2003 model City)

    Timing belt. Not required. From 2003 onwards, all honda Citys have timing chains instead of belts.They usually last a life time.

    Tune-ups :-

    Throttle body service @ 20,000kms Cost around 500rs
    Tappets adjustment / valve clearence @ 20,000kms Cost around 500rs

    Brake adjustment front not required after pads change. rear @ 30,000kms (or when front pads changed)

    Expected Life of Some parts:-

    Brake pads 35,000kms if driven aggressively ( cost already mentioned)
    Clutch plate 110,000kms if driven aggressively ( around 2000rs labour and 6000rs for clutch+pressure plate)
    Clutch bearing 150,000kms (So change with clutch plate) (800rs)
    Tuneups can be delayed to 30,000kms IF the car is run in clean enviornment like in Islamabad etc (less dust)
    Engine oil change can be delays to 5,000kms but not good in long run.

    Service Manual Honda City ids-i 2003-2008:-
    http://www.putlocker.com/file/CED54F8B8FB00360

    Tip for keeping automatic transmission (Vario and steermatic) healthy on CNG:-
    Change engine oil at 3,000kms MAX.
    Tranny oil at 30,000kms
    Tune up (throttle and valve clearence) at 20,000kms
    Do NOT ignore idleing problems. Rough idleing means jerks to transmission and thats what kills it on CNG.
    Keep air filter clean and change at 10,000kms max.

    Instrument cluster cleaning DIY
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/d-i...ening-cleaning
    Console box opening and spray painting DIY
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/d-i...-respray-diy-1
    A/c service, the easy way
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/air...ck-c-service-1
    Honda City GTG at kallar kahar
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/get...g-kallar-kahar
    2nd Honda City GTG at kallar kahar
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/get...ar-23-dec-12-a

    Thats all for now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skt_Z4 View Post
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    Hmm!! Looks like the CAPTAIN of our Ship is Back in Real Action !!
    Welcome Aboard Captain!!
    hahaha... lolzz @ captain
    Its a democratic ship, there is no single captain , all of you are ... so , keep sailing it in whatever direction you want to
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    Quote Originally Posted by Porsche_Maker View Post
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    For me i believe in the Engine Oil whose Lubrication and Foiling capacity is still intact when have to drain it out, just check the Honda Engine Oil and other higher Viscosity good brand Oil as its film is not intact as it should be, better you check engine oil while draining, 10w-30 recommendation reasons by Honda is your basic right why they recommend this while our atmosphere is different as its good for Japan not for Pakistan.

    Also check API recommendations for Engine Oils
    Agreed with your point. the recommended oil is not always the best one for our conditions. Plus, the mileage of the car also needs to be noted when deciding the oil for a car but the question is... HOW TO CHECK IF THE OIL IS STILL GOOD ENOUGH OR NOT?
    Some ppl say that when the color starts changing, the oil needs to be changed, some say otherwise...
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    Quote Originally Posted by kn_khipk View Post
    unlikely if one is a heavy weight like me...
    hahahaha... same here
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    Quote Originally Posted by accord7362 View Post
    7.2ltr
    A little correction Amir bhai, the owner's manual says its 7.8 or 7.9ltr....
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    Quote Originally Posted by 3170 View Post
    Hi, all members,

    I am now facing a strange prob in my 2005 idsi. while applying breaks my left side front tyre jam hooo jata hy. Wheel alignment check karli hy ok hy. tyres are old but not tooo much. kuch arsa phely hi mein ny disk pads (original honda) of disks (original honda) dalwai thi as k purani disks tool lagany k kabil bi nai rahi thi. Mechanically front breaks ki adjustment ki zarorat nai hoti phir aik side sy break ziada grip kion kar rahi hy. right side pr disk bilkul nai hy jab k left side pr disk pr kuch wear and tear is visible.

    Kindly guide expert members.

    Ahmed bhai once i seen this kind of problem in ur car mentioned by you very long ago in a different threat butt never know what you did to solve it. kindly reply soon.

    fahad_reloaded bhai while giving ur suggestion pls also let me know any good mechanic for this job in ibd/rwp. As i think the issue is due to adjustment of breaks by some non-expert mechanic.

    RollOnBigMaMa what is ur opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RollOnBigMaMa View Post
    Dude, as you mentioned, u are clearly facing the problem of unequal brake force distribution. Ur car doesnot have the ebd feature or the abs, both of which prevent unnecessary wheel lock ups.

    well, there could be several reasons behind this.

    -U mentioned u got brake pads recently changed. Then, is ur brake system properly bled? If one brake is properly bled and the other has air in it, then one will have greater grip than the other, henceforth resulting in a lock up.

    -What shape are your rotors in? Rotors often get rust. In most cases they are not bed properly. The most common areas are the outside diameter and inside diameter. Make sure you check both the outside and inside surfaces. If one rotor is in better shape it will brake properly, and the other one won't give you as much grip.

    -Is one caliper dragging? If so it will cause one brake to be hot and the other one to be cool and you will get uneven responses. A caliper can drag because the weather seal (boot) has failed and is letting water contact the piston so it rusts and does not retract. The caliper guides can be dry and not allow the caliper to float properly.

    Get ur calipers and the seals lubricated properly in case they were not treated like they should've been at the time of changing the brake pads.

    -Did u get ur flexible lines checked? they move when brakes are applied and a weak flexible line can cause uneven brake force to be applied on that rotor...

    Other reasons could be a misaligned chimta, some bad bushes in ur suspension system, and may be u need to get camber adjustment.

    well, for now bro, thats all I could think and search of right now.

    Waiting for fahad bhai. He has got ample knowledge when it comes to brake systems...

    Regards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mahmood View Post
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    calliper guide pins, nothing more than that
    +1

    It has to be one or few of the above reasons, in my case, long ago, it was only allignment issue i guess... one more thing, if the camber is more negative or positive then normal, the particular tire will lose grip, too... so get it checked from a mechanic...
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    @a1ms, mashAllah...
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    @a1ms
    alllaaaaaaaaaa............ MashaALLAH
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    @Porsche_Maker: u r right this is same like tractor brake that stops wheel on one side and the other side keeps running. I have changed the both pads and rotors. So u think this is only adjustment issue let we see what other members say. Thank u for prompt reply.


    @RollOnBigMaMa thank u very informative response. Let me check all these think and tell u the real reason behind this fault. Thank u for prompt response.

    @mahmood: Thank you brother. but can u please explain calliper guide pins in desi language so i can ask mechanic to check these. What will be the solution if these pins are faulty. how much is the expected price if replace needed. The last question I think u r from Islamabad so can u please tell me any expert mechanic for this break job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fadk View Post
    i need help guys...i recently got my car tuned, tappet adjusted, throttle services, air filter..n cng tunning..but still i am getting poor average on CNG with ac..
    on full tank, i am getting around maximum of 100KM with AC most of the time on..how can improve that? ..and btw, my car is driven on short routes in city so it is driven less in 4th gear comparatively...

    what do i do..ahmed bahi help please!!
    well, you're in karachi, a city where hardly any car gives good mileage
    it can be many things, ur driving style, the cng station that u get gas filled from, u didnt change plugs, tire pressure can also alter fuel economy... theres not much i can say sitting 600 miles away from u :| u ll have to get it checked from a mechanic...
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    ahmadbila: Kahan ghaib hein janab I am waiting response for the query regarding breaks from Captain of this forum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3170 View Post
    ahmadbila: Kahan ghaib hein janab I am waiting response for the query regarding breaks from Captain of this forum.

    Ahmed is bzi in some issue, meanwhile i will suggest u some factors that may contribute to ur issue

    1. Check out for the worn out Axle boot (both the inner side and outerside)
    2. Secondly, when u reinstall the new brake discs and pads,did u mechanic done the bleeding or not. If he hasnt done bleeding, ask him to do and it is very critical task, not every one can do that
    3. Check out for the locks installed after the brake pad
    4. Forthly, there is less possiblity but may be one of ur brake disc(tawaa) is worn out more rapidly than the other, i mean the thickness of both the TAWAAS is not same it can also cause the same issue, if yes check out the brake pads too
    5. Fifthly, check the tyre GUDDI and check if tyre is straight sometimes if the tyre is punctured and u drive it for sometime without knowing it, it will eventually get angular(i mean DINGA) and the GUDDI is out of normal pattern, u can check this out by SWAPPING the rite and left tyres and see if the problem remains there
    If all of the above is correct, then
    Get the CAMBER checked too, i know u had checked the Alignment but try from another Alignment Wala, may be he can find some issue.
    Dont compromise on tyres,since they are yours only contact with the road...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmadbila View Post
    A little correction Amir bhai, the owner's manual says its 7.8 or 7.9ltr....
    But my experience say it is atleast 11litre+, since one time not long ago my reserve light lit up and it was in front of pump, so i got it refilled and fuel filled was exactly 31.5 litre, so if u get 42 litre tank capacity, u can calculate it is 10.5litre+
    Dont compromise on tyres,since they are yours only contact with the road...

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    ahmadbila: Kahan ghaib hein janab I am waiting response for the query regarding breaks from Captain of this forum.
    Well! I think U've a got A Verrry Much Enough No. of Responses from other Members!!
    & also Pretty much Informative!!

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    hahaha... lolzz @ captain
    Its a democratic ship, there is no single captain , all of you are ... so , keep sailing it in whatever direction you want to
    Jee! Jee! Ahmad Bhai !! Me & Every one on this Ship Know this thing Pretty Well!! I was Just Making Shugal wid U!! haha!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by 3170 View Post
    @mahmood: Thank you brother. but can u please explain calliper guide pins in desi language so i can ask mechanic to check these. What will be the solution if these pins are faulty. how much is the expected price if replace needed. The last question I think u r from Islamabad so can u please tell me any expert mechanic for this break job.

    Honda City Fan Club - disc brake diagram
    here its mentioned as callipar slide pin, this thing have to be well lubricated with grease for proper function, and if brake not serviced in long period, we know well in what enviornment brakes operate, i'll say just simply had brakes serviced and you'll be good, and note that disc pads are always in contact with rotors, disc brake is not like your cycle brake or rear drum brake in which pads are coupled with a cable which pulls it back, it only the disc brake piston that retracts and let loosen the pads off the rotor, this is called sliding of disc pads, pads are placed on channels to slide on peassure only not bound to anything. and for my respected members who are giving you mashwara of bleeding the brakes, may i ask why??? is there any loss or leakage of oil while changing disc pads????? answer is certainly no. reffering to the, reffering to the above picture/diagram the square hole in calliper thru with you see the pads is infact covered by a thin shim of metal ( at least valid for my city 2000 ) whose responsibility is to keep pads in place, if its got loosened or any thing you might have change in braking level. well thats all what i have to say in defending my point, and yes camber as mentioned by captain is also important, have it checked on second priority.

    and for mechanic in isb, well i live in bhara kahu and i take my machine to local mechanic there which i know i can trust more than several i visited in isb and pindi too which might not be feasible to you to drop by.

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    @mahmood: Thank you very much for a very detailed reply.

    @ ahmadbila: Thank you very much. Ahmad bhai. This forum is really very useful.

    @Skt_Z4: Ya pretty much information i got. Ahmed bahi ko ghalti sy likh baitha tha unka jawab daikha nai tha ghalti sy so bhai gustakhi maff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3170 View Post
    @mahmood: Thank you very much for a very detailed reply.

    @ ahmadbila: Thank you very much. Ahmad bhai. This forum is really very useful.

    @Skt_Z4: Ya pretty much information i got. Ahmed bahi ko ghalti sy likh baitha tha unka jawab daikha nai tha ghalti sy so bhai gustakhi maff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmadbila View Post
    well, you're in karachi, a city where hardly any car gives good mileage
    it can be many things, ur driving style, the cng station that u get gas filled from, u didnt change plugs, tire pressure can also alter fuel economy... theres not much i can say sitting 600 miles away from u :| u ll have to get it checked from a mechanic...
    brand new plugs,, tire pressure is maintained..

    is computerized CNG tunning any good?

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    Quote Originally Posted by accord7362 View Post
    Did some engine dry cleaning , not fully satisfied as temp was getting hot & I also need to to the final wipe to exterior .HTC phone camera used for pic's




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