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    Default Honda City Fan Club

    (Maintainence schedule added at the end)

    Hi guys..!!! I thought we should have a Fan club for honda city.Theres already a fourm for City but thats dedicated to city steermatic only.in this club,we shall hav steermatic,idsi,cvt nd all models of city and all their variants. Well the history of this car is somewhat like this...


    First generation (1997-2000) On january 22nd 1997,the first Honda City was launched as a sedan.The city was always made for families and not for racing or sports.Thats why they were always equiped with the latest or sometimes firsts in the market.The interior was always very comforting and the seating position is also very comfortable.It had the options of power windows,and side view mirrors for the top model though they were not there in the base model.Power steeing,front seatbelts,digital clock,AC was available in the basic model too.One the outside,it was very elegantly designed.Beautiful,handsome and decent.Under the hood,it had a 1300cc 16valve SOHC engine ,and was the first car to have 16-valve in 1300cc category.


    Second generation (2000-2003) On January 20th 2000, Honda replaced the original City of 1997 with an update.This model of city had the basic shape of its predecessor.but with new crystal head lamps at the front,power side view mirrors and a chrome lining around the rear numberplate garnish.It was the first car in pakistan to have rear crystal headlights.It had two varients. Exi and Exi-s.The Exi had manual windows and side view mirrors,body colored licence plate garnish(not chromed), semi-fabric seat covers, 165/13 tyres,black door mirrors and no high mount stop lamp.But the Exi-s had all these things in it.The outside looked more gracefull with crystal lights and some new lines on the exterior.The engine in both of them were same.But this one had Programed fuel injection(PGM-Fi).There was optional 4-speed automatic transmission available. The engine engine's maximum horse power=90/6400 and maximum torque =11.5/4700 This model was produced until 2003


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    Third generation (2003-2005) On 23rd August 2003, the third-generation Honda City was launched which had a totally new shape.It was a very stylish and aerodynamic shape introduced in pakistan for the first time.It also was the first car to introduce i-dsi (intelligence-dual and sequential ignation) and CVT (continuously variable transmission) in Pakistan.It had an engine which is higly fuel economic and was build specially for better fuel economy.This car was equipped with power windows(pinch free) , power side view mirrors, tilt adjustable steering column and yet another first,the EPS or electriconic power steering.it made the steering very very soft to turn and also it had no oil used in it so it had no maintanence required.Other featrure of this car is that its the first Euro 3 comliant car in pakistan,that means that its very low on harmful emmisions.The EURO 3 emission standard are applicable in Europe from the year 2000, they are considered to be amongst the most strict standards worldwide. The standard limits emissions to 2.1 g/kWh CO, 0.66 g/kWh HC, 5.0 g/kWh NOx, 0.1 g/kWh particles. Another striking feature is, the boot space(400ltrs).it was bigger then any local car availabe at that time.This car was basically meant for families.it had two glove compartments,a big boot,empty space under the rear seats, four glass holders,and also, a smal space provided in the two front doors.And guess what? All of these options were available in the basic version.This city was divided on just the basis of the drive-train.One was manual,and other was automatic. On the outside,this car was designed very sophisticatedly,it looked smaller than other cars in size from outside but is alot more spacious inside.the body design was an immediate hit among fans and poeple who knew somthing about this type of things.Even the side view mirrors are designed to cut through air.


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    Fourth generation (2005-present) In september 2005,the fourth generation City was released.It was basically a face-lifted version on the previous model.it is known as the City ZX in Thailand, India, the New City in Malaysia and City in Pakistan.The most significant changes are a new exterior (new front grille, new headlamps, new fog lights, newtaillights and bumpers). The front end has been extended forward by 65 mm (2.6 in) while the rear has been extended by 15 mm (0.6 in). The VTEC trim have 15 inch alloy wheels as standard equipment. Interior changes are minor but it does include an armrest for the driver.The rest remains almost same as in the previous model. The engine remains the same but the intake manifold has been modified, resulting a 10% temperature drop in the intake air temperature (IAT), the suspension has been upgraded as well. Honda City in Pakistan are using CVT gearbox for both i-DSI and VTEC variants. The CVT-VTEC 1.5L gearbox is equipped with a Simulated 7-Speed Automated Manual Transmission (AMT) using paddle shift buttons. This is very rare for a subcompact of its class.This VTEC variant was called City-steermatic.

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    Steermatic:- The steermatic is basicaly a name of a technology used in the city VTEC 1.5L model.this model had a different engine than the idsi.it had a 1.5L engine with an auto transmission.this was not any other auto transmission.its is steermatic,means that you can change gears just by push of a button on the steering wheel.this is basically used in F1 racing.It has 2 options,either you drive on fully automated CVT option,or you select a virtual manual transmission.For this,you would change the gears when you want with a push of a button.This model also have an opitiron meter and also stock imported 15" alloy rims with bridgestone Potenza tyres. This technology is very sophisticated and advanced,which,sadly was'nt accepted by the buyers in Pakistan because they simply could not understand it and hence,this particular model of city was discontined.


    I-dsi:- I-dsi stands for Intelligence-dual and sequential ignation.In this type of engine,two spark plugs are employed for each cylinder.That makes 8 spark plugs instead of 4 plugs used by most cars.Adding of an additional plug assures complete burning and utilizing the last drop of fuel thrown into the cylinders which would provide you the best performace and better fuel consumption.Not all the times the 8 plugs are working,but when u push your car through high revs or speeds,all of them work simeltaneously and thats when ypu can feel the difference.But theres one drawback in it,this engine is equiped with 8 valves not 16.Hence it decreased the performance and city seems to be out of breath after 5000RPMs,but as this is basically a family car,performance is not the priority.The best thing about this was the fuel economy,about which,you can read the paragraph below.

    Fifth generation (2009 onwards) On 31th january 2009,the fifth generation of the honda City was launched in Pakistan.Which was an immediate hit among the fans.The previous Honda City was criticised due to its shape,but this time the best thing was the shape,which is even more aerodynamic then the previous one and also resembles the big Honda brothers,Civic and Accord.The best thing about the exterior of this City is the front view of the car.The wide,sleek and elegently designed radiator grill gives a refreashing look to the car.The dimesions of the car are almost similar to those of the older model.The sharp lines on the hood gives the city some attitude on the road.The boot space is increased about 25%,from 400ltrs to 506ltrs.But the good news doesnt end there,under the hood,There is a fairly powerful 1.3L SOHC VTEC engine.which produces a healthy 100bhp,enough for a 1.3L car.But dont think that you would have to lose something on the fuel economy side to get this sort of power.The fuel economy is actually improved.Some indian car expert magzines gave the figures of 22km/ltr for the auto transmission,which is the best in its class.The emission standards are improved as well.Previous city was Euro 3 compliant,but the new city is Euro 4 compliant.which means that your car is enviornment friendly.The only thing which you need to be concered about is the interior,which feels abit cramped campared to the previous City,but there is a reason to it.In the pervious city.the hood and the trunk had only a small portion of the exterior length covered,and the cabin was much bigger,which gave nice interior space,but from outside,the car looked ugly to some eyes.To correct this ugliness,the car was redesigned with increased hood and trunk length from outside,this made it look much better but the drawback was the lesser interior space.The second thing was the missing silver portions on the interior bits and panels of the Pakistani City.The interior would have felt lively only if some spots of it would have been in silver color.But you have alot other advantages,like 15" rims,ABS as standard,vtec engine,details of fuel milage on a special screen in the speedometer,huge boot and many other small things. In a nutshel,the new Honda City is much more refined comparitively to the previous one.The basic things which matter alot have been improved like the engine and the exterior design.The ride of the car is also improved,thanks to the small changes in the suspension.All in all,its still a great package if you see it the value-for-money way in Pakistani market atleast.


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    Fuel Consumption:- The 2005 face-lifted Honda City i-DSI achieved an impressive 26.2km per liter of fuel consumption during a challenge in June 2007. The challenge requires the vehicle to be occupied by 4 persons (including the driver), air conditioning being switched on and a load of luggage. The whole route stretched more than 660km that consists of not only highway driving but also hill climbing. ==================================== Source:-My self mostly,wikipedia and Honda atlas.


    In Short:- In short,according to me,all this proves that Honda City has been a great car for a family to have at all times for more than a decade now.It has proven its self to be a complete car one would need at a price tag it is available for.An im one of the thousands of satisfied owners of it for the past one year. Now all we need are your comments and thoughts upon this small wonder.And also do make sure you post some pix of your own city if you have,of any model.Please feel free to express your feelings about this car.

    Maintainence schedule:-

    There have been a lot of queries regarding the maintainence shedule of Honda City. To help find members and guests find this information easily and quickly, i am writing the complete maintainence shedule which i have been following for the past 5 years for my car (180,000kms).Cost of completing the job may/may not be stated. Some of it may not be the same as that in maintainence book provided by Honda people. In that case, i ll state the reason of the difference.Here goes.

    Oils:-
    Havoline formula 10W30 (3.7ltr) and oil filter change @ 3000kms. Cost 1900rs

    Transmission oil (Manual transmission) 2 ltr @ 40,000kms.
    Honda original oil 1980rs (2ltr)
    Good quality Zic/ micking oil 800rs (2ltr)

    Transmission oil ( Automatic transmission) 2lre @ 35,000kms
    Honda CVT oil ONLY (3.2-3.4L.) 1980rs

    Brake oil
    Keep it topped up and change only if padel feels very soft n goes wayy down.
    Honda original oil

    Clutch operation oil
    Keep it topped up and change only if you it shows signs of trouble

    Parts change:-

    Brake pads change:-
    recommended @ 30,000kms
    Can use any good quality pads. (labour 400rs for 4 wheels plus pads, from 500rs to 2500rs)

    Fuel filter change @ 40,000kms (IF driven on petrol)

    Air filter change @ 10,000kms Original Honda filter is best.Good quality guard filter is good too.
    980rs for OEM, 350rs for Guard filter.

    Spark plugs @ 20,000kms Original Honda plugs (8 plugs for idsi. 4 for steermatic, new city ivtec and before-2003 model City)

    Timing belt. Not required. From 2003 onwards, all honda Citys have timing chains instead of belts.They usually last a life time.

    Tune-ups :-

    Throttle body service @ 20,000kms Cost around 500rs
    Tappets adjustment / valve clearence @ 20,000kms Cost around 500rs

    Brake adjustment front not required after pads change. rear @ 30,000kms (or when front pads changed)

    Expected Life of Some parts:-

    Brake pads 35,000kms if driven aggressively ( cost already mentioned)
    Clutch plate 110,000kms if driven aggressively ( around 2000rs labour and 6000rs for clutch+pressure plate)
    Clutch bearing 150,000kms (So change with clutch plate) (800rs)
    Tuneups can be delayed to 30,000kms IF the car is run in clean enviornment like in Islamabad etc (less dust)
    Engine oil change can be delays to 5,000kms but not good in long run.

    Service Manual Honda City ids-i 2003-2008:-
    http://www.putlocker.com/file/CED54F8B8FB00360

    Tip for keeping automatic transmission (Vario and steermatic) healthy on CNG:-
    Change engine oil at 3,000kms MAX.
    Tranny oil at 30,000kms
    Tune up (throttle and valve clearence) at 20,000kms
    Do NOT ignore idleing problems. Rough idleing means jerks to transmission and thats what kills it on CNG.
    Keep air filter clean and change at 10,000kms max.

    Instrument cluster cleaning DIY
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/d-i...ening-cleaning
    Console box opening and spray painting DIY
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/d-i...-respray-diy-1
    A/c service, the easy way
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/air...ck-c-service-1
    Honda City GTG at kallar kahar
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/get...g-kallar-kahar
    2nd Honda City GTG at kallar kahar
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/get...ar-23-dec-12-a

    Thats all for now.
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    Default city cabin air filter missing

    dear bros
    yesterday i checked my new city cabin airfilter and its not there
    also checked from one pw bro who got delivery of his new city and
    he also confirms he purchased it later from honda fort @rs1000
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    as per honda city sales lahore honda dont install cabin airfilter in any car i.e city or civic its very strange
    i also check my new corolla and cabin airfilter is there
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    Yes, Money Saving tactics by Atlas Honda

    This thing should come Factory Fitted, even Swift comes with Cabin Filter Factory fitted.

    Quote Originally Posted by ahmad_yar View Post
    as per honda city sales lahore honda dont install cabin airfilter in any car i.e city or civic its very strange
    i also check my new corolla and cabin airfilter is there

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    Pakistan needs MaSsive Over-HAULING!! So either stay or Just Leave it!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmad_yar View Post
    as per honda city sales lahore honda dont install cabin airfilter in any car i.e city or civic its very strange
    i also check my new corolla and cabin airfilter is there

    I perfectly Remember when the City i-VTEC was launched it was Priced 13 Lacs & Xli was of 12.70 Lacs & City Dosen't have Some Smaller & Very Simple Things like: Trunk Light & some other simple stuff, don't remember about them now.
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    Hello everyone... Soooo sorry for being away but i ve been toooo busy here with some stuff... have been travelling a lot... around 2000kms in the past 10 days. plus, the heat , classes AND on top of everything, the new format of PW has been keeping me away from the thread Apologies to all those to whom i havent replied in the past few days...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmad_yar View Post
    dear bros
    yesterday i checked my new city cabin airfilter and its not there
    also checked from one pw bro who got delivery of his new city and
    he also confirms he purchased it later from honda fort @rs1000
    There has never been a cabin air filter in any Honda since as far as i remember, atleast all the cars from 2001 onwards. dont know the reason i dont think its cost saving as the cost of filters would be immaterial. may be the filter reduces the a/c "throw"
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    @mehmood bhai
    I ll give u a call tomorrow.. have to talk about the tube well GTG thingy
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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmad_yar View Post
    ahmad bhai jan
    jazakallha for such appreciation and kind words
    the SAAEENNN detailer you talking about i.e aka usman bhai is my detailing "ustad" well i am not pro level detailer and still learning just due to my age i know these all my younger brothers give me extra respect and love

    about dirt crap in ur city's emblems, try very sofy baby tooth brush, dip in car shampoo and softy rub ( apply on cool surface under shed and many soft rubs better than few hard rubs), once its clean than maintain on reguler basis by usuing same process but with shaving brush.


    about cleaning of honda front grill, interior cabin ac grills etc take 250 ml water add 1 capful of car shampoo ( good economical one is armorall ) and use dipped shaving brush to clean them. in last give only water dipped brushing.

    again appreciate ur kind words and just one request dont use word "sir" for me as muje bachpan ki sari maar yad aa jati hai school main sir ke hathoon or murghee be nazroon se ghoom jatey hain well i assure u i will not mind if u consider and call me bhai
    jazakallha
    I see... so, baby tooth brush is the thing i need. great tip for cleaning the a/c grills. there are heaps of dust in there and i ve tried everything i could but failed Garmi boht hy, aj kal tou im driving a super dirty car, the heat is simply unbearable
    as for sir, hahhahaha, we ve all been through all that n although no more murghees or murghaas but im still going through it anyways, thanks for ur posts in the thread Ahmad bhai
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    Quote Originally Posted by mahmood View Post
    guys lets c if i get a reply on this one,

    i have city 2k, and its blower fan behave like this that after operation of like 1.5 hour or so it starts tripping just like ac compressor trips, it will trip off and shut downs ac with it, it will take a couple of minute rest, and then automatically kicks back in, will run like another 10 minutes and then same cycle, just feels like its controlled by a thermal switch or something like it, any body have any clue whats going on or they have faced same situation in their old hondas
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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmad_yar View Post
    dear bros
    yesterday i checked my new city cabin airfilter and its not there
    also checked from one pw bro who got delivery of his new city and
    he also confirms he purchased it later from honda fort @rs1000
    ahmad bhai, i never ever took away any honda car from showroom unless they installed the filter in front of my eyes. Its NEVER been there in any car I got, 2002 civic, 2003 idsi, 2006 vti oriel, 2007 reborn ivtec, 2010 reborn vti oriel and now this city 2012.

    Ur city was a surprise, otherwise we would've surely advised you to get it installed the moment they hand over it to you. get it installed asap from a honda pit stop as its summer and AC use is must.
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    Nope, it doesn't comes Factory Fitted.

    Yes they will install in front of you, if u pay them

    Quote Originally Posted by RollOnBigMaMa View Post
    ahmad bhai, i never ever took away any honda car from showroom unless they installed the filter in front of my eyes. Its NEVER been there in any car I got, 2002 civic, 2003 idsi, 2006 vti oriel, 2007 reborn ivtec, 2010 reborn vti oriel and now this city 2012.

    Ur city was a surprise, otherwise we would've surely advised you to get it installed the moment they hand over it to you. get it installed asap from a honda pit stop as its summer and AC use is must.

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    @ahmad
    Yar i dnt understand why pw using such format , i think this change keeping us away from this forum ....anyhow ahmad dear i have one query can u give rough idea of market price of 2k6 city exceptional condition .
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    Quote Originally Posted by shazi_00 View Post
    @ahmad
    Yar i dnt understand why pw using such format , i think this change keeping us away from this forum ....anyhow ahmad dear i have one query can u give rough idea of market price of 2k6 city exceptional condition .
    06 city 950 to 1100k
    agree format is really very irritating

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    Civic 2012 is going to be launched in September 2012.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmadbila View Post
    mehmood bhai... apki gari pay sayyaa ho gya hy, kisi Aamil baba ki khidmaat hasil karain
    chalo ji maan lete hain, ab aap bhi maan lein k kissi churail k saath aap ki dosti ho gaye hai, itne ghair hazri ki koi aur waja mujhee nazar nahi aate


    waise searched few fourms and blower too trips on heat up as suspected by me.

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    I'll get my new Honda City within running month of July. Hope it will work as good as I read in the Fan Club Pages.
    A good informative and associative thread with nice sharing of details.
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    Salam
    plz tell me how to remove the back seats of Honda city i vtec
    thanx

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    My city idsi 2007 is driven 106k. The problem is, it is badly missing on cng and stalls when brake is applied. While its fine on petrol. The cng mechanic says that its igition coils (3 front and 2 at back) are not in good condition and they are leaking current. So they need to be replaced. Should I change them? Its throttle body is already serviced.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skt_Z4 View Post
    I perfectly Remember when the City i-VTEC was launched it was Priced 13 Lacs & Xli was of 12.70 Lacs & City Dosen't have Some Smaller & Very Simple Things like: Trunk Light & some other simple stuff, don't remember about them now.
    ohh realy they dont have trunk light ?? God its so simple and necessery thing hehe, well in my corolla they have installed cabin air filter and even trunk light, i will check my city for trunk light
    current booking price of city base modal is rs1488,000 and hopefully revise them once facelift shape wil launch soon
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