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    Default Honda City Fan Club

    (Maintainence schedule added at the end)

    Hi guys..!!! I thought we should have a Fan club for honda city.Theres already a fourm for City but thats dedicated to city steermatic only.in this club,we shall hav steermatic,idsi,cvt nd all models of city and all their variants. Well the history of this car is somewhat like this...


    First generation (1997-2000) On january 22nd 1997,the first Honda City was launched as a sedan.The city was always made for families and not for racing or sports.Thats why they were always equiped with the latest or sometimes firsts in the market.The interior was always very comforting and the seating position is also very comfortable.It had the options of power windows,and side view mirrors for the top model though they were not there in the base model.Power steeing,front seatbelts,digital clock,AC was available in the basic model too.One the outside,it was very elegantly designed.Beautiful,handsome and decent.Under the hood,it had a 1300cc 16valve SOHC engine ,and was the first car to have 16-valve in 1300cc category.


    Second generation (2000-2003) On January 20th 2000, Honda replaced the original City of 1997 with an update.This model of city had the basic shape of its predecessor.but with new crystal head lamps at the front,power side view mirrors and a chrome lining around the rear numberplate garnish.It was the first car in pakistan to have rear crystal headlights.It had two varients. Exi and Exi-s.The Exi had manual windows and side view mirrors,body colored licence plate garnish(not chromed), semi-fabric seat covers, 165/13 tyres,black door mirrors and no high mount stop lamp.But the Exi-s had all these things in it.The outside looked more gracefull with crystal lights and some new lines on the exterior.The engine in both of them were same.But this one had Programed fuel injection(PGM-Fi).There was optional 4-speed automatic transmission available. The engine engine's maximum horse power=90/6400 and maximum torque =11.5/4700 This model was produced until 2003


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    Third generation (2003-2005) On 23rd August 2003, the third-generation Honda City was launched which had a totally new shape.It was a very stylish and aerodynamic shape introduced in pakistan for the first time.It also was the first car to introduce i-dsi (intelligence-dual and sequential ignation) and CVT (continuously variable transmission) in Pakistan.It had an engine which is higly fuel economic and was build specially for better fuel economy.This car was equipped with power windows(pinch free) , power side view mirrors, tilt adjustable steering column and yet another first,the EPS or electriconic power steering.it made the steering very very soft to turn and also it had no oil used in it so it had no maintanence required.Other featrure of this car is that its the first Euro 3 comliant car in pakistan,that means that its very low on harmful emmisions.The EURO 3 emission standard are applicable in Europe from the year 2000, they are considered to be amongst the most strict standards worldwide. The standard limits emissions to 2.1 g/kWh CO, 0.66 g/kWh HC, 5.0 g/kWh NOx, 0.1 g/kWh particles. Another striking feature is, the boot space(400ltrs).it was bigger then any local car availabe at that time.This car was basically meant for families.it had two glove compartments,a big boot,empty space under the rear seats, four glass holders,and also, a smal space provided in the two front doors.And guess what? All of these options were available in the basic version.This city was divided on just the basis of the drive-train.One was manual,and other was automatic. On the outside,this car was designed very sophisticatedly,it looked smaller than other cars in size from outside but is alot more spacious inside.the body design was an immediate hit among fans and poeple who knew somthing about this type of things.Even the side view mirrors are designed to cut through air.


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    Fourth generation (2005-present) In september 2005,the fourth generation City was released.It was basically a face-lifted version on the previous model.it is known as the City ZX in Thailand, India, the New City in Malaysia and City in Pakistan.The most significant changes are a new exterior (new front grille, new headlamps, new fog lights, newtaillights and bumpers). The front end has been extended forward by 65 mm (2.6 in) while the rear has been extended by 15 mm (0.6 in). The VTEC trim have 15 inch alloy wheels as standard equipment. Interior changes are minor but it does include an armrest for the driver.The rest remains almost same as in the previous model. The engine remains the same but the intake manifold has been modified, resulting a 10% temperature drop in the intake air temperature (IAT), the suspension has been upgraded as well. Honda City in Pakistan are using CVT gearbox for both i-DSI and VTEC variants. The CVT-VTEC 1.5L gearbox is equipped with a Simulated 7-Speed Automated Manual Transmission (AMT) using paddle shift buttons. This is very rare for a subcompact of its class.This VTEC variant was called City-steermatic.

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    Steermatic:- The steermatic is basicaly a name of a technology used in the city VTEC 1.5L model.this model had a different engine than the idsi.it had a 1.5L engine with an auto transmission.this was not any other auto transmission.its is steermatic,means that you can change gears just by push of a button on the steering wheel.this is basically used in F1 racing.It has 2 options,either you drive on fully automated CVT option,or you select a virtual manual transmission.For this,you would change the gears when you want with a push of a button.This model also have an opitiron meter and also stock imported 15" alloy rims with bridgestone Potenza tyres. This technology is very sophisticated and advanced,which,sadly was'nt accepted by the buyers in Pakistan because they simply could not understand it and hence,this particular model of city was discontined.


    I-dsi:- I-dsi stands for Intelligence-dual and sequential ignation.In this type of engine,two spark plugs are employed for each cylinder.That makes 8 spark plugs instead of 4 plugs used by most cars.Adding of an additional plug assures complete burning and utilizing the last drop of fuel thrown into the cylinders which would provide you the best performace and better fuel consumption.Not all the times the 8 plugs are working,but when u push your car through high revs or speeds,all of them work simeltaneously and thats when ypu can feel the difference.But theres one drawback in it,this engine is equiped with 8 valves not 16.Hence it decreased the performance and city seems to be out of breath after 5000RPMs,but as this is basically a family car,performance is not the priority.The best thing about this was the fuel economy,about which,you can read the paragraph below.

    Fifth generation (2009 onwards) On 31th january 2009,the fifth generation of the honda City was launched in Pakistan.Which was an immediate hit among the fans.The previous Honda City was criticised due to its shape,but this time the best thing was the shape,which is even more aerodynamic then the previous one and also resembles the big Honda brothers,Civic and Accord.The best thing about the exterior of this City is the front view of the car.The wide,sleek and elegently designed radiator grill gives a refreashing look to the car.The dimesions of the car are almost similar to those of the older model.The sharp lines on the hood gives the city some attitude on the road.The boot space is increased about 25%,from 400ltrs to 506ltrs.But the good news doesnt end there,under the hood,There is a fairly powerful 1.3L SOHC VTEC engine.which produces a healthy 100bhp,enough for a 1.3L car.But dont think that you would have to lose something on the fuel economy side to get this sort of power.The fuel economy is actually improved.Some indian car expert magzines gave the figures of 22km/ltr for the auto transmission,which is the best in its class.The emission standards are improved as well.Previous city was Euro 3 compliant,but the new city is Euro 4 compliant.which means that your car is enviornment friendly.The only thing which you need to be concered about is the interior,which feels abit cramped campared to the previous City,but there is a reason to it.In the pervious city.the hood and the trunk had only a small portion of the exterior length covered,and the cabin was much bigger,which gave nice interior space,but from outside,the car looked ugly to some eyes.To correct this ugliness,the car was redesigned with increased hood and trunk length from outside,this made it look much better but the drawback was the lesser interior space.The second thing was the missing silver portions on the interior bits and panels of the Pakistani City.The interior would have felt lively only if some spots of it would have been in silver color.But you have alot other advantages,like 15" rims,ABS as standard,vtec engine,details of fuel milage on a special screen in the speedometer,huge boot and many other small things. In a nutshel,the new Honda City is much more refined comparitively to the previous one.The basic things which matter alot have been improved like the engine and the exterior design.The ride of the car is also improved,thanks to the small changes in the suspension.All in all,its still a great package if you see it the value-for-money way in Pakistani market atleast.


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    Fuel Consumption:- The 2005 face-lifted Honda City i-DSI achieved an impressive 26.2km per liter of fuel consumption during a challenge in June 2007. The challenge requires the vehicle to be occupied by 4 persons (including the driver), air conditioning being switched on and a load of luggage. The whole route stretched more than 660km that consists of not only highway driving but also hill climbing. ==================================== Source:-My self mostly,wikipedia and Honda atlas.


    In Short:- In short,according to me,all this proves that Honda City has been a great car for a family to have at all times for more than a decade now.It has proven its self to be a complete car one would need at a price tag it is available for.An im one of the thousands of satisfied owners of it for the past one year. Now all we need are your comments and thoughts upon this small wonder.And also do make sure you post some pix of your own city if you have,of any model.Please feel free to express your feelings about this car.

    Maintainence schedule:-

    There have been a lot of queries regarding the maintainence shedule of Honda City. To help find members and guests find this information easily and quickly, i am writing the complete maintainence shedule which i have been following for the past 5 years for my car (180,000kms).Cost of completing the job may/may not be stated. Some of it may not be the same as that in maintainence book provided by Honda people. In that case, i ll state the reason of the difference.Here goes.

    Oils:-
    Havoline formula 10W30 (3.7ltr) and oil filter change @ 3000kms. Cost 1900rs

    Transmission oil (Manual transmission) 2 ltr @ 40,000kms.
    Honda original oil 1980rs (2ltr)
    Good quality Zic/ micking oil 800rs (2ltr)

    Transmission oil ( Automatic transmission) 2lre @ 35,000kms
    Honda CVT oil ONLY (3.2-3.4L.) 1980rs

    Brake oil
    Keep it topped up and change only if padel feels very soft n goes wayy down.
    Honda original oil

    Clutch operation oil
    Keep it topped up and change only if you it shows signs of trouble

    Parts change:-

    Brake pads change:-
    recommended @ 30,000kms
    Can use any good quality pads. (labour 400rs for 4 wheels plus pads, from 500rs to 2500rs)

    Fuel filter change @ 40,000kms (IF driven on petrol)

    Air filter change @ 10,000kms Original Honda filter is best.Good quality guard filter is good too.
    980rs for OEM, 350rs for Guard filter.

    Spark plugs @ 20,000kms Original Honda plugs (8 plugs for idsi. 4 for steermatic, new city ivtec and before-2003 model City)

    Timing belt. Not required. From 2003 onwards, all honda Citys have timing chains instead of belts.They usually last a life time.

    Tune-ups :-

    Throttle body service @ 20,000kms Cost around 500rs
    Tappets adjustment / valve clearence @ 20,000kms Cost around 500rs

    Brake adjustment front not required after pads change. rear @ 30,000kms (or when front pads changed)

    Expected Life of Some parts:-

    Brake pads 35,000kms if driven aggressively ( cost already mentioned)
    Clutch plate 110,000kms if driven aggressively ( around 2000rs labour and 6000rs for clutch+pressure plate)
    Clutch bearing 150,000kms (So change with clutch plate) (800rs)
    Tuneups can be delayed to 30,000kms IF the car is run in clean enviornment like in Islamabad etc (less dust)
    Engine oil change can be delays to 5,000kms but not good in long run.

    Service Manual Honda City ids-i 2003-2008:-
    http://www.putlocker.com/file/CED54F8B8FB00360

    Tip for keeping automatic transmission (Vario and steermatic) healthy on CNG:-
    Change engine oil at 3,000kms MAX.
    Tranny oil at 30,000kms
    Tune up (throttle and valve clearence) at 20,000kms
    Do NOT ignore idleing problems. Rough idleing means jerks to transmission and thats what kills it on CNG.
    Keep air filter clean and change at 10,000kms max.

    Instrument cluster cleaning DIY
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/d-i...ening-cleaning
    Console box opening and spray painting DIY
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/d-i...-respray-diy-1
    A/c service, the easy way
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/air...ck-c-service-1
    Honda City GTG at kallar kahar
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/get...g-kallar-kahar
    2nd Honda City GTG at kallar kahar
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/get...ar-23-dec-12-a

    Thats all for now.
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    plz tell me the location of thermostat knob in city idsi....if possible plz post a pic....actually my ac is also tripping more than before nowadays!!!

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    My City Aspire has reached to 3000KM now. Honda dealership recommends oil and oil filter change on 5000KM or three months which ever comes first. Some friends on PW including Ahmad Bhai - The KUPTAAN - has also suggested oil and oil filter change on 3000KM. I am confused whether I shall go for change or wait till 5000KM. Please guide accordingly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by waleed80 View Post
    this is what my parents are telling me too. i would post the picture here when i get home from office
    I can feel the sorrow. My city 2012 has a small dent on the EXACT same place as urs, on the right side, just beside the license plate. It was done by a *BLEEP* carry dabba driver with a fukin' huge metal bar in front of him.

    I suggest leave it as it is. in Pakistan, everyone loves "totel jeenyan gaddi".
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    Dear friends, just got delivery of new city mt with nav in white color. Need some help regarding changing Speaker, Fog lights, Color of seat poshish (not like the black), Security system (just for key less entry as car is insured) any other accessories etc.
    Thanks in advance

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    Quote Originally Posted by sunhonbun View Post
    plz tell me the location of thermostat knob in city idsi....if possible plz post a pic....actually my ac is also tripping more than before nowadays!!!
    its right here, on the dashboard...
    i ve heard car a/cs work better when the humidity levels start to rise as they are rising these days. thats why i guess the compressor needs to do less work to cool the cabin and it shuts off quicker. if the cooling is gud, no need to worry
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    Quote Originally Posted by HussainKaisrani View Post
    My City Aspire has reached to 3000KM now. Honda dealership recommends oil and oil filter change on 5000KM or three months which ever comes first. Some friends on PW including Ahmad Bhai - The KUPTAAN - has also suggested oil and oil filter change on 3000KM. I am confused whether I shall go for change or wait till 5000KM. Please guide accordingly.
    that is an infintely debatable topic... ppl have varying opinions n they are all usually backed by valid arguments. i'd say get it changed. the engine is new, they say its 'dry' and may even have contamination which needs to be drained out. so i'd say get the oil change at 3000kms first time and at no more then 4000kms after that. dont use original Honda engine oil, the best oil u can get is havoline formula... 10w30
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    Quote Originally Posted by RollOnBigMaMa View Post
    I can feel the sorrow. My city 2012 has a small dent on the EXACT same place as urs, on the right side, just beside the license plate. It was done by a *BLEEP* carry dabba driver with a fukin' huge metal bar in front of him.

    I suggest leave it as it is. in Pakistan, everyone loves "totel jeenyan gaddi".
    screw EVERYONE... i prefer clean body panels over janiyan dented panels... but thats just me, this policy can be devastating for people who change their cars every now n then
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    Quote Originally Posted by civic7 View Post
    Dear friends, just got delivery of new city mt with nav in white color. Need some help regarding changing Speaker, Fog lights, Color of seat poshish (not like the black), Security system (just for key less entry as car is insured) any other accessories etc.
    Thanks in advance

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    First of all, congratulations and welcome to the club feels nice to see that this thread is like an ever growing family

    well, i'd highly recommend u change the tires before anything else! the original ones are crappy. get some rims too if u want to enhance the looks of a car. as for speakers, get to some audio guy, there are a lot of them and they r the ones who can guide u best... @moonjee is one that i know is very good at this stuff. fog lights are very good addition plus i'd like to recommend aftermarket 90w or 90v (watever it is) headlight bulbs. the original ones are only 60 or 65 and the visibility with them is not good at all.
    security system, cant say much, get it insured i'd say....other accessories..emmmm... get some high quality waxes, may be refer to the detailing thread....
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    Quote Originally Posted by waleed80 View Post
    yeah....there are three options
    1. cover the bump up with pakwheels sticker
    2. get the bump removed from honda and get the whole boot repainted from them (car is insured)
    3. look for the BEST paint shop in Islamabad/pindi and get the work done from them (please suggest which place to go for)
    very sorry to hear this
    well i propse u 4th option of dry denting
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    Quote Originally Posted by civic7 View Post
    Dear friends, just got delivery of new city mt with nav in white color. Need some help regarding changing Speaker, Fog lights, Color of seat poshish (not like the black), Security system (just for key less entry as car is insured) any other accessories etc.
    Thanks in advance

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    heartly congrats for having new car, the most loving scent is of new car
    u have white colour ride so propose u synthetic wax, turtle ice synth wax is arround rs1300 and meguiar's nxt tech 2.0 is roughly rs2200 to 2300, nxt better than turtle ice, also buy couple of micro fibers and nice car shampoo, never dry dusting as its creat swirls on car surface safe drive


    Quote Originally Posted by ahmadbila View Post
    First of all, congratulations and welcome to the club feels nice to see that this thread is like an ever growing family

    well, i'd highly recommend u change the tires before anything else! the original ones are crappy. get some rims too if u want to enhance the looks of a car. as for speakers, get to some audio guy, there are a lot of them and they r the ones who can guide u best... @moonjee is one that i know is very good at this stuff. fog lights are very good addition plus i'd like to recommend aftermarket 90w or 90v (watever it is) headlight bulbs. the original ones are only 60 or 65 and the visibility with them is not good at all.
    security system, cant say much, get it insured i'd say....other accessories..emmmm... get some high quality waxes, may be refer to the detailing thread....
    i totaly agree new city head lamps light very dim compare to my corolla
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    Thanx @ahmadbila and @Ahmad_yar
    Tyre has been replaced by Advan db v551 185/65R-15 @ Rs8750/tyre
    Trying for meguiar's nxt tech 2.0, this is Faisalabad.. and a little variety of auto accessories is available here....
    Changing the headlight bulbs to 90/100 to headlight will affect headlight cover ??? what u say ?? visibility is offcourse very poor..
    Car is insured, but just for keyless entry "Chu Chu" recommended or not ?? If yes then which one ??
    I m searching Steermatic Rims...are these sutiable?? find one with 8/10 condition but demand is 26K (Made in Thailand)
    Should I change seatcover colour ??? from black to grey like roof...or OEM is best to use ??

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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmadbila View Post
    Today, around 10am in the morning i got a call from a fellow pw member "SKILL" . he said he was on the way to sargodha and wanted to see if we can meet so i said SURE.... after 45 minutes we were having having a gud gup shup while having some light snacks. Thank you for remembering me Hamid bhai, was a pleasure meeting you

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    thermostate has two sides one electrical and other mechn. The electrical side turns on/off the compressor based on its mechnical side.
    The mech side is capillary tube and is placed in front of evaporator side(which is inside dashboard after blower)
    if mech side gets cold the thermostat turns off the compr and vice versa.
    The fan speed indirectly control the length of duratation the compressor stays on. when fan is at high speed the mech side of thermostate
    does not reach to cooling point quickly to turn off the compressor. (my view)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skill View Post
    Sir itsAamir here and pleased to see you yesterday,it was just to get a little leisure brake for some moments before getting into the tiring business all the day long and the meeting served its purpose quite well.
    My return way back, what a thunder storm, i faced through out the way un till sial interchange,got stuck there for an hour due to heavy down pour.
    Oh.. soooo sorry bro... i just woke up when u called n i was still sleepy...just corrected the name in my fonebook. sorry for the mistake

    and yes, the thunder storm was tooo damn heavy n it lasted for 2 hours n rain lasted another 1hr after the storm ended. u shud ve stayed here for the night....

    thanks to the 3hrs rain, the heat levels here are down to much more bearable range...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmad_yar View Post
    heartly congrats for having new car, the most loving scent is of new car
    u have white colour ride so propose u synthetic wax, turtle ice synth wax is arround rs1300 and meguiar's nxt tech 2.0 is roughly rs2200 to 2300, nxt better than turtle ice, also buy couple of micro fibers and nice car shampoo, never dry dusting as its creat swirls on car surface safe drive

    i totaly agree new city head lamps light very dim compare to my corolla
    Ahmad bhai, wat do u suggest for simple cleaning of the car? wats the alternate of dry dust cleaning?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmadbila View Post
    Oh.. soooo sorry bro... i just woke up when u called n i was still sleepy...just corrected the name in my fonebook. sorry for the mistake

    and yes, the thunder storm was tooo damn heavy n it lasted for 2 hours n rain lasted another 1hr after the storm ended. u shud ve stayed here for the night....

    thanks to the 3hrs rain, the heat levels here are down to much more bearable range...

    3 whole hours of chill mahool in rain, me not gusta at all ahmed bhai, twano kahia v c k kuj baddal saday aal v bhej dia j

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    Quote Originally Posted by civic7 View Post
    Thanx @ahmadbila and @Ahmad_yar
    Tyre has been replaced by Advan db v551 185/65R-15 @ Rs8750/tyre
    Trying for meguiar's nxt tech 2.0, this is Faisalabad.. and a little variety of auto accessories is available here....
    Changing the headlight bulbs to 90/100 to headlight will affect headlight cover ??? what u say ?? visibility is offcourse very poor..
    Car is insured, but just for keyless entry "Chu Chu" recommended or not ?? If yes then which one ??
    I m searching Steermatic Rims...are these sutiable?? find one with 8/10 condition but demand is 26K (Made in Thailand)
    Should I change seatcover colour ??? from black to grey like roof...or OEM is best to use ??
    gr8.. u got one of the best tires available in the market! good choice!
    changing the bulbs wont cause any harm to the headlight cover. im using this aftermarket bulb for like 5yrs now without any issues. infact, if u want a take the visibility to a new level, get urself narva bulbs. look into the forums for the name n u ll find a thread after it. check out the pictures in there and then decide. it ll cost u a bit more then 1000rs i guess.

    well, i never recommed Chu Chu... its a real pain in the "ssa" in rainy seasons, water gets into it n it screws the central locking, or if some car with heavy sound system being played passes by, the car starts shouting n at top of all, it would void ur electrical warranty of 3yrs. chu chu serves almost no purpose at all. how long does it takes to insert the key n unlock the car? central locking is there so passengers dont have to wait for the doors to be unlocked manually. these chu chu's r all china maal, i wont get em of my car.

    steermatic rims are gr8. if u find them, go for them. even at 26k they are worth the price as they are original enkei rims made in thailand, not some chinese crap. but if u dont find em, even chinese ones serve the purpose well.

    as for the seatcovers, i prefer using the original seats without any cover until they start showing signs of wear n tear. seatcovers take away the looks n comfort of a seat (as they change the shape). i got first seatcovers for my 2006 city idsi in december 2011 but if u really want it, i'd say go for black fabric ones with small patches of black vinyle on particular areas like the outer sides of the seat n the back. i think i have a pic, i ll show it to u if i find it. infact u shud go with watever design or color YOU like, seatcovers last hardly a year or so, u can change to new designs very soon. n if u like it, then u shud nt give a damn about wat others have to say about it

    well, those are my views about what i wud've done if i had bought a new city. thats my way of personalizing the car, u shud go with YOUR way of personalizing the car... because, as some say, the way a man keeps his car is just an extension of his own personality
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    Quote Originally Posted by mahmood View Post
    3 whole hours of chill mahool in rain, me not gusta at all ahmed bhai, twano kahia v c k kuj baddal saday aal v bhej dia j
    haha... menu ki kende o sir jee , toaday molvee hazraat nay sada program he cancel kara dita nai ty boht maza ana c "rain over me" scene on see
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    Quote Originally Posted by coolsmart View Post
    thermostate has two sides one electrical and other mechn. The electrical side turns on/off the compressor based on its mechnical side.
    The mech side is capillary tube and is placed in front of evaporator side(which is inside dashboard after blower)
    if mech side gets cold the thermostat turns off the compr and vice versa.
    The fan speed indirectly control the length of duratation the compressor stays on. when fan is at high speed the mech side of thermostate
    does not reach to cooling point quickly to turn off the compressor. (my view)
    aha... that explains it pretty nicely! thanks coolsmart bro
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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmadbila View Post
    haha... menu ki kende o sir jee , toaday molvee hazraat nay sada program he cancel kara dita nai ty boht maza ana c "rain over me" scene on see
    theek hai ji saar lao tussi sano hor v, koi gal nahi saadi vari v aave gi ek na ek din, inshAllah after eid and this time we will rename it as eid milan gtg or something, yar qasam se aik time par tu pakka ho gaya tha k roza nahi par pata nahi kahan se chand nazar aa gaya, chalo ji achee baat hai and we all are happy for ramzan karin,

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