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    Default Honda City Fan Club

    (Maintainence schedule added at the end)

    Hi guys..!!! I thought we should have a Fan club for honda city.Theres already a fourm for City but thats dedicated to city steermatic only.in this club,we shall hav steermatic,idsi,cvt nd all models of city and all their variants. Well the history of this car is somewhat like this...


    First generation (1997-2000) On january 22nd 1997,the first Honda City was launched as a sedan.The city was always made for families and not for racing or sports.Thats why they were always equiped with the latest or sometimes firsts in the market.The interior was always very comforting and the seating position is also very comfortable.It had the options of power windows,and side view mirrors for the top model though they were not there in the base model.Power steeing,front seatbelts,digital clock,AC was available in the basic model too.One the outside,it was very elegantly designed.Beautiful,handsome and decent.Under the hood,it had a 1300cc 16valve SOHC engine ,and was the first car to have 16-valve in 1300cc category.


    Second generation (2000-2003) On January 20th 2000, Honda replaced the original City of 1997 with an update.This model of city had the basic shape of its predecessor.but with new crystal head lamps at the front,power side view mirrors and a chrome lining around the rear numberplate garnish.It was the first car in pakistan to have rear crystal headlights.It had two varients. Exi and Exi-s.The Exi had manual windows and side view mirrors,body colored licence plate garnish(not chromed), semi-fabric seat covers, 165/13 tyres,black door mirrors and no high mount stop lamp.But the Exi-s had all these things in it.The outside looked more gracefull with crystal lights and some new lines on the exterior.The engine in both of them were same.But this one had Programed fuel injection(PGM-Fi).There was optional 4-speed automatic transmission available. The engine engine's maximum horse power=90/6400 and maximum torque =11.5/4700 This model was produced until 2003


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    Third generation (2003-2005) On 23rd August 2003, the third-generation Honda City was launched which had a totally new shape.It was a very stylish and aerodynamic shape introduced in pakistan for the first time.It also was the first car to introduce i-dsi (intelligence-dual and sequential ignation) and CVT (continuously variable transmission) in Pakistan.It had an engine which is higly fuel economic and was build specially for better fuel economy.This car was equipped with power windows(pinch free) , power side view mirrors, tilt adjustable steering column and yet another first,the EPS or electriconic power steering.it made the steering very very soft to turn and also it had no oil used in it so it had no maintanence required.Other featrure of this car is that its the first Euro 3 comliant car in pakistan,that means that its very low on harmful emmisions.The EURO 3 emission standard are applicable in Europe from the year 2000, they are considered to be amongst the most strict standards worldwide. The standard limits emissions to 2.1 g/kWh CO, 0.66 g/kWh HC, 5.0 g/kWh NOx, 0.1 g/kWh particles. Another striking feature is, the boot space(400ltrs).it was bigger then any local car availabe at that time.This car was basically meant for families.it had two glove compartments,a big boot,empty space under the rear seats, four glass holders,and also, a smal space provided in the two front doors.And guess what? All of these options were available in the basic version.This city was divided on just the basis of the drive-train.One was manual,and other was automatic. On the outside,this car was designed very sophisticatedly,it looked smaller than other cars in size from outside but is alot more spacious inside.the body design was an immediate hit among fans and poeple who knew somthing about this type of things.Even the side view mirrors are designed to cut through air.


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    Fourth generation (2005-present) In september 2005,the fourth generation City was released.It was basically a face-lifted version on the previous model.it is known as the City ZX in Thailand, India, the New City in Malaysia and City in Pakistan.The most significant changes are a new exterior (new front grille, new headlamps, new fog lights, newtaillights and bumpers). The front end has been extended forward by 65 mm (2.6 in) while the rear has been extended by 15 mm (0.6 in). The VTEC trim have 15 inch alloy wheels as standard equipment. Interior changes are minor but it does include an armrest for the driver.The rest remains almost same as in the previous model. The engine remains the same but the intake manifold has been modified, resulting a 10% temperature drop in the intake air temperature (IAT), the suspension has been upgraded as well. Honda City in Pakistan are using CVT gearbox for both i-DSI and VTEC variants. The CVT-VTEC 1.5L gearbox is equipped with a Simulated 7-Speed Automated Manual Transmission (AMT) using paddle shift buttons. This is very rare for a subcompact of its class.This VTEC variant was called City-steermatic.

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    Steermatic:- The steermatic is basicaly a name of a technology used in the city VTEC 1.5L model.this model had a different engine than the idsi.it had a 1.5L engine with an auto transmission.this was not any other auto transmission.its is steermatic,means that you can change gears just by push of a button on the steering wheel.this is basically used in F1 racing.It has 2 options,either you drive on fully automated CVT option,or you select a virtual manual transmission.For this,you would change the gears when you want with a push of a button.This model also have an opitiron meter and also stock imported 15" alloy rims with bridgestone Potenza tyres. This technology is very sophisticated and advanced,which,sadly was'nt accepted by the buyers in Pakistan because they simply could not understand it and hence,this particular model of city was discontined.


    I-dsi:- I-dsi stands for Intelligence-dual and sequential ignation.In this type of engine,two spark plugs are employed for each cylinder.That makes 8 spark plugs instead of 4 plugs used by most cars.Adding of an additional plug assures complete burning and utilizing the last drop of fuel thrown into the cylinders which would provide you the best performace and better fuel consumption.Not all the times the 8 plugs are working,but when u push your car through high revs or speeds,all of them work simeltaneously and thats when ypu can feel the difference.But theres one drawback in it,this engine is equiped with 8 valves not 16.Hence it decreased the performance and city seems to be out of breath after 5000RPMs,but as this is basically a family car,performance is not the priority.The best thing about this was the fuel economy,about which,you can read the paragraph below.

    Fifth generation (2009 onwards) On 31th january 2009,the fifth generation of the honda City was launched in Pakistan.Which was an immediate hit among the fans.The previous Honda City was criticised due to its shape,but this time the best thing was the shape,which is even more aerodynamic then the previous one and also resembles the big Honda brothers,Civic and Accord.The best thing about the exterior of this City is the front view of the car.The wide,sleek and elegently designed radiator grill gives a refreashing look to the car.The dimesions of the car are almost similar to those of the older model.The sharp lines on the hood gives the city some attitude on the road.The boot space is increased about 25%,from 400ltrs to 506ltrs.But the good news doesnt end there,under the hood,There is a fairly powerful 1.3L SOHC VTEC engine.which produces a healthy 100bhp,enough for a 1.3L car.But dont think that you would have to lose something on the fuel economy side to get this sort of power.The fuel economy is actually improved.Some indian car expert magzines gave the figures of 22km/ltr for the auto transmission,which is the best in its class.The emission standards are improved as well.Previous city was Euro 3 compliant,but the new city is Euro 4 compliant.which means that your car is enviornment friendly.The only thing which you need to be concered about is the interior,which feels abit cramped campared to the previous City,but there is a reason to it.In the pervious city.the hood and the trunk had only a small portion of the exterior length covered,and the cabin was much bigger,which gave nice interior space,but from outside,the car looked ugly to some eyes.To correct this ugliness,the car was redesigned with increased hood and trunk length from outside,this made it look much better but the drawback was the lesser interior space.The second thing was the missing silver portions on the interior bits and panels of the Pakistani City.The interior would have felt lively only if some spots of it would have been in silver color.But you have alot other advantages,like 15" rims,ABS as standard,vtec engine,details of fuel milage on a special screen in the speedometer,huge boot and many other small things. In a nutshel,the new Honda City is much more refined comparitively to the previous one.The basic things which matter alot have been improved like the engine and the exterior design.The ride of the car is also improved,thanks to the small changes in the suspension.All in all,its still a great package if you see it the value-for-money way in Pakistani market atleast.


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    Fuel Consumption:- The 2005 face-lifted Honda City i-DSI achieved an impressive 26.2km per liter of fuel consumption during a challenge in June 2007. The challenge requires the vehicle to be occupied by 4 persons (including the driver), air conditioning being switched on and a load of luggage. The whole route stretched more than 660km that consists of not only highway driving but also hill climbing. ==================================== Source:-My self mostly,wikipedia and Honda atlas.


    In Short:- In short,according to me,all this proves that Honda City has been a great car for a family to have at all times for more than a decade now.It has proven its self to be a complete car one would need at a price tag it is available for.An im one of the thousands of satisfied owners of it for the past one year. Now all we need are your comments and thoughts upon this small wonder.And also do make sure you post some pix of your own city if you have,of any model.Please feel free to express your feelings about this car.

    Maintainence schedule:-

    There have been a lot of queries regarding the maintainence shedule of Honda City. To help find members and guests find this information easily and quickly, i am writing the complete maintainence shedule which i have been following for the past 5 years for my car (180,000kms).Cost of completing the job may/may not be stated. Some of it may not be the same as that in maintainence book provided by Honda people. In that case, i ll state the reason of the difference.Here goes.

    Oils:-
    Havoline formula 10W30 (3.7ltr) and oil filter change @ 3000kms. Cost 1900rs

    Transmission oil (Manual transmission) 2 ltr @ 40,000kms.
    Honda original oil 1980rs (2ltr)
    Good quality Zic/ micking oil 800rs (2ltr)

    Transmission oil ( Automatic transmission) 2lre @ 35,000kms
    Honda CVT oil ONLY (3.2-3.4L.) 1980rs

    Brake oil
    Keep it topped up and change only if padel feels very soft n goes wayy down.
    Honda original oil

    Clutch operation oil
    Keep it topped up and change only if you it shows signs of trouble

    Parts change:-

    Brake pads change:-
    recommended @ 30,000kms
    Can use any good quality pads. (labour 400rs for 4 wheels plus pads, from 500rs to 2500rs)

    Fuel filter change @ 40,000kms (IF driven on petrol)

    Air filter change @ 10,000kms Original Honda filter is best.Good quality guard filter is good too.
    980rs for OEM, 350rs for Guard filter.

    Spark plugs @ 20,000kms Original Honda plugs (8 plugs for idsi. 4 for steermatic, new city ivtec and before-2003 model City)

    Timing belt. Not required. From 2003 onwards, all honda Citys have timing chains instead of belts.They usually last a life time.

    Tune-ups :-

    Throttle body service @ 20,000kms Cost around 500rs
    Tappets adjustment / valve clearence @ 20,000kms Cost around 500rs

    Brake adjustment front not required after pads change. rear @ 30,000kms (or when front pads changed)

    Expected Life of Some parts:-

    Brake pads 35,000kms if driven aggressively ( cost already mentioned)
    Clutch plate 110,000kms if driven aggressively ( around 2000rs labour and 6000rs for clutch+pressure plate)
    Clutch bearing 150,000kms (So change with clutch plate) (800rs)
    Tuneups can be delayed to 30,000kms IF the car is run in clean enviornment like in Islamabad etc (less dust)
    Engine oil change can be delays to 5,000kms but not good in long run.

    Service Manual Honda City ids-i 2003-2008:-
    http://www.putlocker.com/file/CED54F8B8FB00360

    Tip for keeping automatic transmission (Vario and steermatic) healthy on CNG:-
    Change engine oil at 3,000kms MAX.
    Tranny oil at 30,000kms
    Tune up (throttle and valve clearence) at 20,000kms
    Do NOT ignore idleing problems. Rough idleing means jerks to transmission and thats what kills it on CNG.
    Keep air filter clean and change at 10,000kms max.

    Instrument cluster cleaning DIY
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/d-i...ening-cleaning
    Console box opening and spray painting DIY
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/d-i...-respray-diy-1
    A/c service, the easy way
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/air...ck-c-service-1
    Honda City GTG at kallar kahar
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/get...g-kallar-kahar
    2nd Honda City GTG at kallar kahar
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/get...ar-23-dec-12-a

    Thats all for now.
    When the power of love exceeds the love for power, the world will finally know peace=Every man is guilty of all the good he didn't do

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    Quote Originally Posted by margallar View Post
    im in now, my whistle is coming on monday
    Allaaa... welcome which city u getting?
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    Quote Originally Posted by RN427 View Post
    @ Waleed Bro, ok now i am calling you brother now happy???
    thats better. thankss.

    Quote Originally Posted by ahmad_yar View Post
    waleed bhai wisedecision
    pls ref following picture of mobile1 supersyn fully synthetic oil 5w/50
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/members-member-rides/187900-dil-tu-bacha-hai-gee-10
    i am using this in my rolla and drive become very smooth, accelration alsoimrpove
    well my plan is to drain after 8000 km

    inshallha next week will also chnage my city oil to this mobil 1
    <o:p></o:p>
    well actually i have had a very good experience wth the fully synthetic oil in my platz when i used to have ZIC XQ in that an i used to keep drain interval at 12k with stock oil filter. to be honest there wasnt much improvement in the mileage or performance of the car but i used to get stable idle.

    Quote Originally Posted by ahmad_yar View Post
    and waleed bhai suggesst you to pls check its avilability from csd ( armey canteen discount store ) in pindi as i souced mine from csd lahore and there is price differnce of rs1000 from open market for 4 liter pack
    i cant trust CSD guys. they are big frauds. i would prefer MOBIL authorized dealer over them anytime

    Quote Originally Posted by ahmadbila View Post
    hahaha... Im glad you finally got my point This is Pakistan, the concept of warranty is just a joke over here...

    well, talking about the oil you ve selected, no doubt its a very nice n well reputed oil. theres just one small thing. recently, i was talking to @vague_one (Usman bhay, DC walay). he said he was using mobil1 for quite a while but now due to uncertain reasons, he felt the pinch to get back to simple, mineral oil. so get got honda oil this time. hes reporting better mileage and he also said that the car revvs more freely. i'd say before u go for it, talk to usman bhai first...

    another member @fahad_reloaded also used synthetic oil and was highly dissatisfied with it... so, please talk to a LOT of ppl with first hand experience about this.

    recommended oil rating for new/relatively newer Honda City cars is 10w30.
    now thats something new to me. i wud surely call usman tomorrow and wud discuss it with him in detail. thanks for the insight though

    PS : despite my utter tries, my car is not giving me more than 14 km per liter within city with 100 percent AC on. i m tryin extreme hypermiling even. wat can be the reason ? maybe the short distances between the traffic signals because in Islamabad the distances ar more. whenever i visit islamabad though, my average increase by around 1-1.2 km per liter. is that the reason ppl living inside islamabad are getting figures around 17 per liter or something ? please comment

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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmadbila View Post
    Allaaa... welcome which city u getting?
    manual, regular (non aspire), silver colour

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    Quote Originally Posted by margallar View Post
    im in now, my whistle is coming on monday
    Thats great ! Welcome to the club !

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    Alhamdulillah.......The fourth Gen Collectors Item!!!!

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    from where can i find this mugen grill in lahore or islamabad/pindi...and how much wud it cost ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by waleed80 View Post
    from where can i find this mugen grill in lahore or islamabad/pindi...and how much wud it cost ?
    Dubai Autos Rwp have Modulo complete body kit of Honda City. The rates they quotes me are 18.5k for Chinese and 23.5k for Taiwan based.. Theyre un-painted. If you just like to buy the grill. They have that as well

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    Quote Originally Posted by waleed80 View Post
    bro basically you have got it all covered just one advice. stick to 15 inch alloys, 16s are a lil too big and would result in pretty stiff ride, which in the case of city is already stiff, and also adversely affect your fuel economy (remember the accord in 1986 model used to come with 185/70/13 as stock). stick to 15s and use soft tyres like yokohama or dunlop. about the seat covers, summers are dominant in our country, so sincere advice would be to stick to fabric. nowadays there is this net kind of material available in the market which stays pretty ok even if the car is parked in the sun.
    -Thanks. I understand it's 16s are a bit big and will effect fuel economy. But I like the look. :-)
    -As far as tires, I prefer Yokos. Everyone has given them good reviews. I m pretty sure I can find that size too.
    -I will go with painting the mud flaps. They look better that way.

    Thanks Waleed Bhai.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmad_yar View Post
    ali bhai
    congrat for new born baby boy , may Allha grant him long heathy life ( ameen ) also congrats for new city, a good machine just hard suspensions rest all ok
    Thank you sir! I still havent driven it yet. It's sitting in my garage. Waiting for insurance.

    Any one have good experience with New Hampshire? I am getting 2.8%??


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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmadbila View Post
    Congratulation Sir... MashaALLAH very good news...we all wish long life and success to ur newborn baby boy. hes lucky to have a car of his own even at this age

    and now, a second round of congratulations for ur new car... gr8 choice! will surely be waiting for pix of ur ride...
    Thank you sir! I appreciate it very much! Inshallah. I need to catch up with my sleep and then squeez some time to take pics. My son keeps us up all night! Lol.


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    Quote Originally Posted by noone View Post
    Congrats for the City and the new born baby.
    Nice upgrade plan. I'd like you to consider a few more items to the list. I also bought City 2012 White with Navigation and so far I've just ordered the tyres.

    1-I'm sure sooner or later you will be looking for a number plate. There is a guy in Islamabad who makes amazing number plates and he ships them to Lahore / Karachi regularly. To see his work, see the photo albums on his page Sticker lovers | Facebook

    2-Seems like you are more into cosmetics. Fog lights give a very decent look. In islamabad fog lights of honda city are available in 3000-10,000 price range.

    3-If you like to improve lighting while traveling in the dark. Philips X-treme Vision H4 is really what you need. They promise to give 100% more light without freaking out the driver coming from opposite direction.

    4-There is a variety of mugen / modulo based body kits available. If u've ordered side skirts then changing the front grill could also be part of the menu.

    I myself am currently stuck at installing the security system. Doing that voids the warranty and that's why I'm thinking to do it after a couple of thousand miles (so that i could claim warranty if a manufacturing fault appears during initial running)
    Sir! Thanks! I appreciate it!
    I will look into number plates. Thanks for the suggestion.

    You read my mind. I was looking into a projector kit as well as fog lights. I did see a charcoal grey city with fog lights that had a silver trim around the light.
    Do you know any places and prices for fog lights?


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    Quote Originally Posted by noone View Post
    Dubai Autos Rwp have Modulo complete body kit of Honda City. The rates they quotes me are 18.5k for Chinese and 23.5k for Taiwan based.. Theyre un-painted. If you just like to buy the grill. They have that as well
    but then dubai autos are super expensive. the modulo grill (chromed) which they are selling for 7500 is being sold for 6000 on montogemery road lahore, and if u bargain u can get it more or less around 5000. furthermore , i dont think Dubai auto has this grill which i like. they have the chromed modulo grill which i think gives a cheap look (my personal opinion) . the matt finish in mugen grill is what i m looking for

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    [QUOTE=waleed80;3469312now thats something new to me. i wud surely call usman tomorrow and wud discuss it with him in detail. thanks for the insight thoughPS : despite my utter tries, my car is not giving me more than 14 km per liter within city with 100 percent AC on. i m tryin extreme hypermiling even. wat can be the reason ? maybe the short distances between the traffic signals because in Islamabad the distances ar more. whenever i visit islamabad though, my average increase by around 1-1.2 km per liter. is that the reason ppl living inside islamabad are getting figures around 17 per liter or something ? please comment[/QUOTE]

    Yes sir, do talk to usman bhai.as for mileage, well, how many kms on the odo? if its anything less then 10k kms, dont worry, it should improve. did u check the tire pressure in the tires? if u are doing extreme hypermiling, u shud get atleast 16-17 locally, as a friend of mine gets that same in isb doing HM, though his car now has 52000kms. short distances sure kill the fuel economy. rwp's traffic is a mess. it lacks the flow, other then on the mall or airport road etc
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    on my car is hardly 3k on odometer. i keep 32 lbs air in all tyres, yoko advan db 185 65 15. in islamabad its very easy to get better averages. once i filled the tank in islamabad and roamed there for some reason for like 170 kilometers in a day, and my car gave 18 km per liter with 100 percent AC on. traffic conditions there are awesome to do hypermilling. here in pindi there is a traffic signal after evey 1 km, and i never switch off my car on signals and AC is also on. in that context, getting 14 is gud enough considering overall less odometer reading till now

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    Quote Originally Posted by Imaan1 View Post
    Thats great ! Welcome to the club !
    hey Imaan, long time no see. where have u been buddy?
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    Quote Originally Posted by margallar View Post
    manual, regular (non aspire), silver colour
    gr8... will be waiting for the pix
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    Quote Originally Posted by rustam54 View Post
    Alhamdulillah.......The fourth Gen Collectors Item!!!!

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    wow... You ve got the best ride in town... infact, the best one in country, probably... you're a lucky person
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    Quote Originally Posted by ali9686 View Post
    Thank you sir! I appreciate it very much! Inshallah. I need to catch up with my sleep and then squeez some time to take pics. My son keeps us up all night! Lol.


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    Oh yes, please take ur time... we can understand that the car is not ur priority these days
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    Quote Originally Posted by waleed80 View Post
    on my car is hardly 3k on odometer. i keep 32 lbs air in all tyres, yoko advan db 185 65 15. in islamabad its very easy to get better averages. once i filled the tank in islamabad and roamed there for some reason for like 170 kilometers in a day, and my car gave 18 km per liter with 100 percent AC on. traffic conditions there are awesome to do hypermilling. here in pindi there is a traffic signal after evey 1 km, and i never switch off my car on signals and AC is also on. in that context, getting 14 is gud enough considering overall less odometer reading till now
    well then, theres nothing wrong with ur car. its just the bad traffic of rwp not much can be done about it...
    all i can say is, use window shades to stop direct sunlight from entering the cabin and use a/c at lower fan speeds. this will reduce the time for which the compressor will stay on and you ll save some fuel... not much but still...
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    Have shifted to City, bought a new city yesterday from Honda,
    I have basically shifted from Gli 2010 to City 2012, just because of increased theft rate of Xli/Gli in Islamabad,
    Let's see how it goes, i am still confused that if i did wrong or right !!

    I am not sure about resale of city as i have been keeping Corollas since 2002. Plus the driving experience and braking plus road grip is better but City is not comfortable as far as seating is concerned plus it is also not that spacious,

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