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    Default Honda City Fan Club

    (Maintainence schedule added at the end)

    Hi guys..!!! I thought we should have a Fan club for honda city.Theres already a fourm for City but thats dedicated to city steermatic only.in this club,we shall hav steermatic,idsi,cvt nd all models of city and all their variants. Well the history of this car is somewhat like this...


    First generation (1997-2000) On january 22nd 1997,the first Honda City was launched as a sedan.The city was always made for families and not for racing or sports.Thats why they were always equiped with the latest or sometimes firsts in the market.The interior was always very comforting and the seating position is also very comfortable.It had the options of power windows,and side view mirrors for the top model though they were not there in the base model.Power steeing,front seatbelts,digital clock,AC was available in the basic model too.One the outside,it was very elegantly designed.Beautiful,handsome and decent.Under the hood,it had a 1300cc 16valve SOHC engine ,and was the first car to have 16-valve in 1300cc category.


    Second generation (2000-2003) On January 20th 2000, Honda replaced the original City of 1997 with an update.This model of city had the basic shape of its predecessor.but with new crystal head lamps at the front,power side view mirrors and a chrome lining around the rear numberplate garnish.It was the first car in pakistan to have rear crystal headlights.It had two varients. Exi and Exi-s.The Exi had manual windows and side view mirrors,body colored licence plate garnish(not chromed), semi-fabric seat covers, 165/13 tyres,black door mirrors and no high mount stop lamp.But the Exi-s had all these things in it.The outside looked more gracefull with crystal lights and some new lines on the exterior.The engine in both of them were same.But this one had Programed fuel injection(PGM-Fi).There was optional 4-speed automatic transmission available. The engine engine's maximum horse power=90/6400 and maximum torque =11.5/4700 This model was produced until 2003


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    Third generation (2003-2005) On 23rd August 2003, the third-generation Honda City was launched which had a totally new shape.It was a very stylish and aerodynamic shape introduced in pakistan for the first time.It also was the first car to introduce i-dsi (intelligence-dual and sequential ignation) and CVT (continuously variable transmission) in Pakistan.It had an engine which is higly fuel economic and was build specially for better fuel economy.This car was equipped with power windows(pinch free) , power side view mirrors, tilt adjustable steering column and yet another first,the EPS or electriconic power steering.it made the steering very very soft to turn and also it had no oil used in it so it had no maintanence required.Other featrure of this car is that its the first Euro 3 comliant car in pakistan,that means that its very low on harmful emmisions.The EURO 3 emission standard are applicable in Europe from the year 2000, they are considered to be amongst the most strict standards worldwide. The standard limits emissions to 2.1 g/kWh CO, 0.66 g/kWh HC, 5.0 g/kWh NOx, 0.1 g/kWh particles. Another striking feature is, the boot space(400ltrs).it was bigger then any local car availabe at that time.This car was basically meant for families.it had two glove compartments,a big boot,empty space under the rear seats, four glass holders,and also, a smal space provided in the two front doors.And guess what? All of these options were available in the basic version.This city was divided on just the basis of the drive-train.One was manual,and other was automatic. On the outside,this car was designed very sophisticatedly,it looked smaller than other cars in size from outside but is alot more spacious inside.the body design was an immediate hit among fans and poeple who knew somthing about this type of things.Even the side view mirrors are designed to cut through air.


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    Fourth generation (2005-present) In september 2005,the fourth generation City was released.It was basically a face-lifted version on the previous model.it is known as the City ZX in Thailand, India, the New City in Malaysia and City in Pakistan.The most significant changes are a new exterior (new front grille, new headlamps, new fog lights, newtaillights and bumpers). The front end has been extended forward by 65 mm (2.6 in) while the rear has been extended by 15 mm (0.6 in). The VTEC trim have 15 inch alloy wheels as standard equipment. Interior changes are minor but it does include an armrest for the driver.The rest remains almost same as in the previous model. The engine remains the same but the intake manifold has been modified, resulting a 10% temperature drop in the intake air temperature (IAT), the suspension has been upgraded as well. Honda City in Pakistan are using CVT gearbox for both i-DSI and VTEC variants. The CVT-VTEC 1.5L gearbox is equipped with a Simulated 7-Speed Automated Manual Transmission (AMT) using paddle shift buttons. This is very rare for a subcompact of its class.This VTEC variant was called City-steermatic.

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    Steermatic:- The steermatic is basicaly a name of a technology used in the city VTEC 1.5L model.this model had a different engine than the idsi.it had a 1.5L engine with an auto transmission.this was not any other auto transmission.its is steermatic,means that you can change gears just by push of a button on the steering wheel.this is basically used in F1 racing.It has 2 options,either you drive on fully automated CVT option,or you select a virtual manual transmission.For this,you would change the gears when you want with a push of a button.This model also have an opitiron meter and also stock imported 15" alloy rims with bridgestone Potenza tyres. This technology is very sophisticated and advanced,which,sadly was'nt accepted by the buyers in Pakistan because they simply could not understand it and hence,this particular model of city was discontined.


    I-dsi:- I-dsi stands for Intelligence-dual and sequential ignation.In this type of engine,two spark plugs are employed for each cylinder.That makes 8 spark plugs instead of 4 plugs used by most cars.Adding of an additional plug assures complete burning and utilizing the last drop of fuel thrown into the cylinders which would provide you the best performace and better fuel consumption.Not all the times the 8 plugs are working,but when u push your car through high revs or speeds,all of them work simeltaneously and thats when ypu can feel the difference.But theres one drawback in it,this engine is equiped with 8 valves not 16.Hence it decreased the performance and city seems to be out of breath after 5000RPMs,but as this is basically a family car,performance is not the priority.The best thing about this was the fuel economy,about which,you can read the paragraph below.

    Fifth generation (2009 onwards) On 31th january 2009,the fifth generation of the honda City was launched in Pakistan.Which was an immediate hit among the fans.The previous Honda City was criticised due to its shape,but this time the best thing was the shape,which is even more aerodynamic then the previous one and also resembles the big Honda brothers,Civic and Accord.The best thing about the exterior of this City is the front view of the car.The wide,sleek and elegently designed radiator grill gives a refreashing look to the car.The dimesions of the car are almost similar to those of the older model.The sharp lines on the hood gives the city some attitude on the road.The boot space is increased about 25%,from 400ltrs to 506ltrs.But the good news doesnt end there,under the hood,There is a fairly powerful 1.3L SOHC VTEC engine.which produces a healthy 100bhp,enough for a 1.3L car.But dont think that you would have to lose something on the fuel economy side to get this sort of power.The fuel economy is actually improved.Some indian car expert magzines gave the figures of 22km/ltr for the auto transmission,which is the best in its class.The emission standards are improved as well.Previous city was Euro 3 compliant,but the new city is Euro 4 compliant.which means that your car is enviornment friendly.The only thing which you need to be concered about is the interior,which feels abit cramped campared to the previous City,but there is a reason to it.In the pervious city.the hood and the trunk had only a small portion of the exterior length covered,and the cabin was much bigger,which gave nice interior space,but from outside,the car looked ugly to some eyes.To correct this ugliness,the car was redesigned with increased hood and trunk length from outside,this made it look much better but the drawback was the lesser interior space.The second thing was the missing silver portions on the interior bits and panels of the Pakistani City.The interior would have felt lively only if some spots of it would have been in silver color.But you have alot other advantages,like 15" rims,ABS as standard,vtec engine,details of fuel milage on a special screen in the speedometer,huge boot and many other small things. In a nutshel,the new Honda City is much more refined comparitively to the previous one.The basic things which matter alot have been improved like the engine and the exterior design.The ride of the car is also improved,thanks to the small changes in the suspension.All in all,its still a great package if you see it the value-for-money way in Pakistani market atleast.


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    Fuel Consumption:- The 2005 face-lifted Honda City i-DSI achieved an impressive 26.2km per liter of fuel consumption during a challenge in June 2007. The challenge requires the vehicle to be occupied by 4 persons (including the driver), air conditioning being switched on and a load of luggage. The whole route stretched more than 660km that consists of not only highway driving but also hill climbing. ==================================== Source:-My self mostly,wikipedia and Honda atlas.


    In Short:- In short,according to me,all this proves that Honda City has been a great car for a family to have at all times for more than a decade now.It has proven its self to be a complete car one would need at a price tag it is available for.An im one of the thousands of satisfied owners of it for the past one year. Now all we need are your comments and thoughts upon this small wonder.And also do make sure you post some pix of your own city if you have,of any model.Please feel free to express your feelings about this car.

    Maintainence schedule:-

    There have been a lot of queries regarding the maintainence shedule of Honda City. To help find members and guests find this information easily and quickly, i am writing the complete maintainence shedule which i have been following for the past 5 years for my car (180,000kms).Cost of completing the job may/may not be stated. Some of it may not be the same as that in maintainence book provided by Honda people. In that case, i ll state the reason of the difference.Here goes.

    Oils:-
    Havoline formula 10W30 (3.7ltr) and oil filter change @ 3000kms. Cost 1900rs

    Transmission oil (Manual transmission) 2 ltr @ 40,000kms.
    Honda original oil 1980rs (2ltr)
    Good quality Zic/ micking oil 800rs (2ltr)

    Transmission oil ( Automatic transmission) 2lre @ 35,000kms
    Honda CVT oil ONLY (3.2-3.4L.) 1980rs

    Brake oil
    Keep it topped up and change only if padel feels very soft n goes wayy down.
    Honda original oil

    Clutch operation oil
    Keep it topped up and change only if you it shows signs of trouble

    Parts change:-

    Brake pads change:-
    recommended @ 30,000kms
    Can use any good quality pads. (labour 400rs for 4 wheels plus pads, from 500rs to 2500rs)

    Fuel filter change @ 40,000kms (IF driven on petrol)

    Air filter change @ 10,000kms Original Honda filter is best.Good quality guard filter is good too.
    980rs for OEM, 350rs for Guard filter.

    Spark plugs @ 20,000kms Original Honda plugs (8 plugs for idsi. 4 for steermatic, new city ivtec and before-2003 model City)

    Timing belt. Not required. From 2003 onwards, all honda Citys have timing chains instead of belts.They usually last a life time.

    Tune-ups :-

    Throttle body service @ 20,000kms Cost around 500rs
    Tappets adjustment / valve clearence @ 20,000kms Cost around 500rs

    Brake adjustment front not required after pads change. rear @ 30,000kms (or when front pads changed)

    Expected Life of Some parts:-

    Brake pads 35,000kms if driven aggressively ( cost already mentioned)
    Clutch plate 110,000kms if driven aggressively ( around 2000rs labour and 6000rs for clutch+pressure plate)
    Clutch bearing 150,000kms (So change with clutch plate) (800rs)
    Tuneups can be delayed to 30,000kms IF the car is run in clean enviornment like in Islamabad etc (less dust)
    Engine oil change can be delays to 5,000kms but not good in long run.

    Service Manual Honda City ids-i 2003-2008:-
    http://www.putlocker.com/file/CED54F8B8FB00360

    Tip for keeping automatic transmission (Vario and steermatic) healthy on CNG:-
    Change engine oil at 3,000kms MAX.
    Tranny oil at 30,000kms
    Tune up (throttle and valve clearence) at 20,000kms
    Do NOT ignore idleing problems. Rough idleing means jerks to transmission and thats what kills it on CNG.
    Keep air filter clean and change at 10,000kms max.

    Instrument cluster cleaning DIY
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/d-i...ening-cleaning
    Console box opening and spray painting DIY
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/d-i...-respray-diy-1
    A/c service, the easy way
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/air...ck-c-service-1
    Honda City GTG at kallar kahar
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/get...g-kallar-kahar
    2nd Honda City GTG at kallar kahar
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/get...ar-23-dec-12-a

    Thats all for now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by noone View Post
    Can anyone tellme what is "cabin filter tray" and "engine's plastic shield" and what is their use. I too am an owner of a new city. Is it recommended to have those if they're not provided by the company?
    Apologies for asking a basic question. I'm just a n00b in cars.
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    at ur service...again hehehe
    cabin filter tray.....its the tray which is supposed to hold the air filter for the blower and AC etc...i.e....its job is to filter the dust particles from entering into the cabin which can result in many bad things as bad odour and also damaging the interior in the long run. now every car is supposed to have it but our Honda guys have just installed the tray and not the filter in it...so what happens is we end up purchasing it from Honda or from market....they dont even provide it in zero meter cars i mean..its just like u purchase a window AC from market and it doesnt have a filter behind the front grill

    engine plastic shield.....it is a plastic shield under the engine which is supposed to protect the engine, specially the oil sump (as it is the lower most part in the engine) from minor hits from stones and bricks etc or if we accidentally run the car over something sharp etc. now the thing is that new city is coming with the engine shield in three pieces, but due to some miracle of God and a pathetic logic from Honda, the Automatic city is coming with all three pieces, whereas all Manual tranny city are coming with 2 pieces (the ones on the sides only...the center piece is missing)...cost of installation of new sheet is 700 for the sheet plus 500 for four bolts plus 500 labour i once went to get it done but when i heard that they are selling 4 bolts for 500, i came back and the logic behind securing auto engine more than manual is JUST NOT understandable to me

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    Quote Originally Posted by arhum1994 View Post
    Yeah they both are important and pretty cheap too.The engine shield protects the underbay of the engine from rocks and stone and preventing it from getting damaged.
    The air filter prevents dust and other particles from entering the Ac vents and withour the filter the Ac can choke on the dust and other particles reducing the efficency of the Ac.
    These are two items will cost you Max 2000(approximate).Another incident in which honda Atlas saves money.
    nopes....AC filter they are selling for 1000 and the engine sheet with labour is for 1700

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    Quote Originally Posted by arhum1994 View Post
    Ok this might be quite belated but here are my honda city 2012 MT with navigation pictures. PLEASE DO SAY MASHALLAH!!!

    Will post my 2004 Idsi pictures tommorow.

    Having its first wash.

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    Navigation in action.

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    Getting its Tires changes.Dunlop Sp 300 185 65 R15

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    The beautiful Odometer.


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    congrats on ur purchase, but if u want to keep ur hard earned money car in a better shape, let this be the last time u got it washed from somewhere who know NOTHING about car detailing. two to three more visits to these guys or to service station and u wud end up with horrible swirls all over ur car use MF to wash the car and separate MFs for cleaning and waxing. use good quality shampoo and keep the clay bar kit handy to remove the spots which dont go away with wax and wash. if u need more details, though i m not at all a detailing expert, i wud be glad to be of help. drive safe, dont go fortracker, and get the car insured
    have fun

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    Quote Originally Posted by waleed80 View Post
    for how much is the havoline formula and what is its rating ? and do u grade it better than the fully synthetic Honda genuine oil which they are offering at their dealership ?
    havoline formula is 10w30. well, i wud rather not compare synthetic with mineral oil but i'd definately tell u that people who have used honda synthetic oil are not quite satisfied. havoline formula is the safest bet. im not sure about the price, i think 4ltr pack was around 1800rs or so... not sure at all...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmadbila View Post
    havoline formula is 10w30. well, i wud rather not compare synthetic with mineral oil but i'd definately tell u that people who have used honda synthetic oil are not quite satisfied. havoline formula is the safest bet. im not sure about the price, i think 4ltr pack was around 1800rs or so... not sure at all...
    thanks for the reply. the only problem in our country is that how to trust someone. i mean, in synthetics, u can somehow find and importer who wud be selling the original thing, but here the local products like Havoline Formula (i think its of caltex, right???) can have one thousand variations...even the pump guys themselves can be corrupt and selling the wrong stuff to the customers. that is the only concern i have. if u see from that aspect, i have been using Petromin Ultra 7 from @storm (sameer bhai) since last 3 years in my platz, and m very very satsfied with that oil as well ( i m forgetting the rating). one of the major reasons i shifted to Petromin was cause sameer bhai was importing the oil from Saudia himself , so i could "trust" someone selling genuine oil

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    Quote Originally Posted by faisalirshad View Post
    Thank you brother and thanks for the guide...
    One another thing that I would like to clear is that the car is installed with CNG so whenever the car is running on CNG the orange engine light turns on after some time while when it is on petrol the light doesnot turn on and it runs ok. I asked the person from whom I got he said that its just only because CNG is installed and the sensors in it read it as malfunction so no need to worry about it.

    But personally that light annoys me too much and whenever it turns on i feel discomfortable so what you think that whether the above reason said is true or should I get it checked.
    and secondly does these engines run well on CNG because on my suzuki cultus I never had any problem with CNG on it. But I have heard from some guys that CNG doesnot suit these cars so what is your suggestion about it...
    well, the Check engine light DOES show up on cng more frequently then on petrol. mostly its due to the oxygen sensor error. nothing to worry about at all IF you car has been tuned well. i.e. plugs, air filter, tappets etc all are done. simply ignore the error.
    and yes these engines run excellent on cng. u may not know but i have a 2006 city idsi manual on cng , the mileage is 239,000kms and the engine is going great! but i do maintain it properly , according to the schedule in the main post of this thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by waleed80 View Post
    thanks for the reply. the only problem in our country is that how to trust someone. i mean, in synthetics, u can somehow find and importer who wud be selling the original thing, but here the local products like Havoline Formula (i think its of caltex, right???) can have one thousand variations...even the pump guys themselves can be corrupt and selling the wrong stuff to the customers. that is the only concern i have. if u see from that aspect, i have been using Petromin Ultra 7 from @storm (sameer bhai) since last 3 years in my platz, and m very very satsfied with that oil as well ( i m forgetting the rating). one of the major reasons i shifted to Petromin was cause sameer bhai was importing the oil from Saudia himself , so i could "trust" someone selling genuine oil

    i totally forgot to mention on the thread that i also switched to petromin ultra7 on the last oil change. i went to my oil change guy and he said sir jee yeh naya oil aya hy, is bar check karain, i said dont tell me about it, i know better then u so i said ok gimme petromin this time. n im liking it so far.

    the problem you are referring to is really a big one. theres a lot of counterfeit oil in the market. the best approach is to find an old, well reputed engine oil change shop and then always go to them for oil change. for the past 4 years, i go to the same oil change guy. its hard to find an honest one but there are always a few in every city.

    theres another way too, u can locate a havoline agency n buy directly from them. u ll also get huge savings. because if u buy 3 packs (or 4 i guess) u get one pack free. thats a REAL profit for the oil change shops. if u buy 3-4 packs at once, u can also get one pack free. u ll have original oil and at very less compound rate...

    EDIT:- Petromin ultra 7 is rated 20w50
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    Quote Originally Posted by mahmood View Post
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    CEL on turns up in cng vehicle when there is something wrong with advancer setup, there are two possibilities that comes to my mind, first which i have lil doubt that you have it is the wrong hook up of grips on the fuel injectors, the regular wiring grips are removed from injectors and looped through the advancer, if the sequence is not right CEL will be up, but what i have experienced in this scenario CEL is even up on petrol, second thing that needs consideration is the jumper between MAP and advancer unit. have your machine checked and let us all know the problem as it might be helpful or us too.
    Paa jee, dont u think that in this case, the car will do severe missing on petrol? as wrong cylinders will get fuel at wrong time?
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    Quote Originally Posted by faisalirshad View Post
    Thanks for the guide brother. will surely get it checked now...
    if ur car is well tuned, air filter n plugs etc are new or have not completed their age, try reseting the ECU by disconnecting the battery wires for 20-30mins. this will remove any error codes stored in the ECU and if nothing is wrong with the car, the light wont show up.

    sometimes, when some error shows up once and the problem is even solved, the error stays in the ECU and might show up without any new error being identified. so, get he ecu reset, if the light still comes up, then certainly theres a slight issue in the tuning or sumthing. if ur car is working fine, u may chose to ignore it.... otherwise, get it to some mechanic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by margallar View Post
    does city have a clutch cable?
    No! it has hydrolic clutch. in idsi and ivtec. im not sure about the 1997-2003 model.
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    @arhum
    congrats buddy. mashallah looking very nice get a few polishes n waxes for its skin now... and yes do post pix of the tires n let us know ur comments about the car and tires too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mahmood View Post
    lemme have the opportunity to answer your query, first one hai na yeh wale
    acha very simple buddy, do the following stuff,
    open the bonnet
    locate the transmisson
    locate the clutch actuation arm, or whatever its called i dont know
    now see if it has cable attached to it or a master cylinder sorta thing is next to it
    if it has cable then its cable clutch if it is a master cylinder sorta thing then ur clutch is hydraulic
    simple as that, doing so you will learn about your new machine too
    and if you dont wanna know, scroll thru the owner manual and you will know

    have a nice and problem free stay at city fan club,


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    Paa jee, waah jee
    excellent reply! thats the best way, i always like to encourage people to learn more about their cars following this approach. most of the things that i know about mine also came from panga's like these
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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmadbila View Post
    well, the Check engine light DOES show up on cng more frequently then on petrol. mostly its due to the oxygen sensor error. nothing to worry about at all IF you car has been tuned well. i.e. plugs, air filter, tappets etc all are done. simply ignore the error.
    and yes these engines run excellent on cng. u may not know but i have a 2006 city idsi manual on cng , the mileage is 239,000kms and the engine is going great! but i do maintain it properly , according to the schedule in the main post of this thread.
    Waooo thats some serious mileage being a 2006...
    Between I m going to get it overall check up on weekend and also get it tuned, although the car is running pretty fine but just being on the safe side and for personal satisfaction that everything is ok...
    and yes u r rite bro if car gets maintained timely it always keep going good...

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    Quote Originally Posted by faisalirshad View Post
    There is small confusion I also have. In the engine compartment there are two fluid bottles place together. One is a bigger and other is just a small one. Now what i read on both the bottle caps that it is of brake fluid which says use only dot 3 or dot 4... but why would there be two brake fluids bottle in it? why not use single or whether these two bottles are different actually? Because what I am wondering kay when u say the clutch is hydraulic tu kahein aisa tu nahi hai kay one is for clutch and other is for brake and I am mixing both, but then why on the caps only brake fluid is written on both of them...
    you are right. one on the left (if u are standing in front of the car, facing the engine) , the larger one is brake fluid bottle n the smaller, more cylindrical one on the right is the one for clutch operation. they both use the same oil, because they both do the same type of job.
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    talking about the plastic sheet below engine. i ve never understood whats the purpose of it. water, small pebbles, mud , dust etc wont do ANYTHING to the engine. no harm at all. the engines is made out of very hard material. the oil pan of the idsi is made of silver. which i broke when i hit my car on a brick at 120km/h. the hit ripped of the lower area of bumper and the engine shield, so i really dont know wats that for. though i still recommend it to people and have it on my car too as it looks good an may be, MAY BE it has some use... once again, personal opinion...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmadbila View Post
    you are right. one on the left (if u are standing in front of the car, facing the engine) , the larger one is brake fluid bottle n the smaller, more cylindrical one on the right is the one for clutch operation. they both use the same oil, because they both do the same type of job.
    Thanks so much brother once again... U solved my confusions and concerns too that I had in mind...

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    @everyone thanks for the suggestion and the feedback.

    Now i havent driven the car alot because my brother took it to Sadiqabad with him.Will be coming back on Eid Inshallah so will post more detailed pics then.

    Now as far as car is concerned i loved its acceleration far better than the previous Idsl. Also really like the driving position and the seats. Cant really say much about tyres as havent spent too much time in the car altogether.

    yeah that WILL be the first time the car got serviced from these guys.Once it arrives will do some deatailing on it.

    Also there is one more concern for me.When i got the car the guy just screwed the aerial onto the car.Now isnt it quite simple for the theives to take the aerial with them. What do you guys think?

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    Quote Originally Posted by arhum1994 View Post
    @everyone thanks for the suggestion and the feedback.

    Also there is one more concern for me.When i got the car the guy just screwed the aerial onto the car.Now isnt it quite simple for the theives to take the aerial with them. What do you guys think?
    yea...and it does get stolen pretty often. when i was delivered with the car, honda guys told me to take it off everytime i get off the car if the car is parked in some market or in in some insecure area...lol...btw it costs 500 from honda guys, i think

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    @arhum1994, @waleed80
    Thank you for the details on cabin filter and engine protecting sheet. I assume the approx cost of rs 2000 for installing those is applicable if I get this done by Honda. I'm planning to do it upon first checkup at 1,000km. Right now I'm just at 700km mark.

    Its super strange that in a poor country like Pakistan... cars are much more expensive than the other countries. And, when we get into the details, companies are still saving money by skipping important items from the car.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noone View Post
    @arhum1994, @waleed80
    Thank you for the details on cabin filter and engine protecting sheet. I assume the approx cost of rs 2000 for installing those is applicable if I get this done by Honda. I'm planning to do it upon first checkup at 1,000km. Right now I'm just at 700km mark.

    Its super strange that in a poor country like Pakistan... cars are much more expensive than the other countries. And, when we get into the details, companies are still saving money by skipping important items from the car.
    but the funny this is, they're STILL bearing loss for a long time...
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