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    Default Honda City Fan Club

    (Maintainence schedule added at the end)

    Hi guys..!!! I thought we should have a Fan club for honda city.Theres already a fourm for City but thats dedicated to city steermatic only.in this club,we shall hav steermatic,idsi,cvt nd all models of city and all their variants. Well the history of this car is somewhat like this...


    First generation (1997-2000) On january 22nd 1997,the first Honda City was launched as a sedan.The city was always made for families and not for racing or sports.Thats why they were always equiped with the latest or sometimes firsts in the market.The interior was always very comforting and the seating position is also very comfortable.It had the options of power windows,and side view mirrors for the top model though they were not there in the base model.Power steeing,front seatbelts,digital clock,AC was available in the basic model too.One the outside,it was very elegantly designed.Beautiful,handsome and decent.Under the hood,it had a 1300cc 16valve SOHC engine ,and was the first car to have 16-valve in 1300cc category.


    Second generation (2000-2003) On January 20th 2000, Honda replaced the original City of 1997 with an update.This model of city had the basic shape of its predecessor.but with new crystal head lamps at the front,power side view mirrors and a chrome lining around the rear numberplate garnish.It was the first car in pakistan to have rear crystal headlights.It had two varients. Exi and Exi-s.The Exi had manual windows and side view mirrors,body colored licence plate garnish(not chromed), semi-fabric seat covers, 165/13 tyres,black door mirrors and no high mount stop lamp.But the Exi-s had all these things in it.The outside looked more gracefull with crystal lights and some new lines on the exterior.The engine in both of them were same.But this one had Programed fuel injection(PGM-Fi).There was optional 4-speed automatic transmission available. The engine engine's maximum horse power=90/6400 and maximum torque =11.5/4700 This model was produced until 2003


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    Third generation (2003-2005) On 23rd August 2003, the third-generation Honda City was launched which had a totally new shape.It was a very stylish and aerodynamic shape introduced in pakistan for the first time.It also was the first car to introduce i-dsi (intelligence-dual and sequential ignation) and CVT (continuously variable transmission) in Pakistan.It had an engine which is higly fuel economic and was build specially for better fuel economy.This car was equipped with power windows(pinch free) , power side view mirrors, tilt adjustable steering column and yet another first,the EPS or electriconic power steering.it made the steering very very soft to turn and also it had no oil used in it so it had no maintanence required.Other featrure of this car is that its the first Euro 3 comliant car in pakistan,that means that its very low on harmful emmisions.The EURO 3 emission standard are applicable in Europe from the year 2000, they are considered to be amongst the most strict standards worldwide. The standard limits emissions to 2.1 g/kWh CO, 0.66 g/kWh HC, 5.0 g/kWh NOx, 0.1 g/kWh particles. Another striking feature is, the boot space(400ltrs).it was bigger then any local car availabe at that time.This car was basically meant for families.it had two glove compartments,a big boot,empty space under the rear seats, four glass holders,and also, a smal space provided in the two front doors.And guess what? All of these options were available in the basic version.This city was divided on just the basis of the drive-train.One was manual,and other was automatic. On the outside,this car was designed very sophisticatedly,it looked smaller than other cars in size from outside but is alot more spacious inside.the body design was an immediate hit among fans and poeple who knew somthing about this type of things.Even the side view mirrors are designed to cut through air.


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    Fourth generation (2005-present) In september 2005,the fourth generation City was released.It was basically a face-lifted version on the previous model.it is known as the City ZX in Thailand, India, the New City in Malaysia and City in Pakistan.The most significant changes are a new exterior (new front grille, new headlamps, new fog lights, newtaillights and bumpers). The front end has been extended forward by 65 mm (2.6 in) while the rear has been extended by 15 mm (0.6 in). The VTEC trim have 15 inch alloy wheels as standard equipment. Interior changes are minor but it does include an armrest for the driver.The rest remains almost same as in the previous model. The engine remains the same but the intake manifold has been modified, resulting a 10% temperature drop in the intake air temperature (IAT), the suspension has been upgraded as well. Honda City in Pakistan are using CVT gearbox for both i-DSI and VTEC variants. The CVT-VTEC 1.5L gearbox is equipped with a Simulated 7-Speed Automated Manual Transmission (AMT) using paddle shift buttons. This is very rare for a subcompact of its class.This VTEC variant was called City-steermatic.

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    Steermatic:- The steermatic is basicaly a name of a technology used in the city VTEC 1.5L model.this model had a different engine than the idsi.it had a 1.5L engine with an auto transmission.this was not any other auto transmission.its is steermatic,means that you can change gears just by push of a button on the steering wheel.this is basically used in F1 racing.It has 2 options,either you drive on fully automated CVT option,or you select a virtual manual transmission.For this,you would change the gears when you want with a push of a button.This model also have an opitiron meter and also stock imported 15" alloy rims with bridgestone Potenza tyres. This technology is very sophisticated and advanced,which,sadly was'nt accepted by the buyers in Pakistan because they simply could not understand it and hence,this particular model of city was discontined.


    I-dsi:- I-dsi stands for Intelligence-dual and sequential ignation.In this type of engine,two spark plugs are employed for each cylinder.That makes 8 spark plugs instead of 4 plugs used by most cars.Adding of an additional plug assures complete burning and utilizing the last drop of fuel thrown into the cylinders which would provide you the best performace and better fuel consumption.Not all the times the 8 plugs are working,but when u push your car through high revs or speeds,all of them work simeltaneously and thats when ypu can feel the difference.But theres one drawback in it,this engine is equiped with 8 valves not 16.Hence it decreased the performance and city seems to be out of breath after 5000RPMs,but as this is basically a family car,performance is not the priority.The best thing about this was the fuel economy,about which,you can read the paragraph below.

    Fifth generation (2009 onwards) On 31th january 2009,the fifth generation of the honda City was launched in Pakistan.Which was an immediate hit among the fans.The previous Honda City was criticised due to its shape,but this time the best thing was the shape,which is even more aerodynamic then the previous one and also resembles the big Honda brothers,Civic and Accord.The best thing about the exterior of this City is the front view of the car.The wide,sleek and elegently designed radiator grill gives a refreashing look to the car.The dimesions of the car are almost similar to those of the older model.The sharp lines on the hood gives the city some attitude on the road.The boot space is increased about 25%,from 400ltrs to 506ltrs.But the good news doesnt end there,under the hood,There is a fairly powerful 1.3L SOHC VTEC engine.which produces a healthy 100bhp,enough for a 1.3L car.But dont think that you would have to lose something on the fuel economy side to get this sort of power.The fuel economy is actually improved.Some indian car expert magzines gave the figures of 22km/ltr for the auto transmission,which is the best in its class.The emission standards are improved as well.Previous city was Euro 3 compliant,but the new city is Euro 4 compliant.which means that your car is enviornment friendly.The only thing which you need to be concered about is the interior,which feels abit cramped campared to the previous City,but there is a reason to it.In the pervious city.the hood and the trunk had only a small portion of the exterior length covered,and the cabin was much bigger,which gave nice interior space,but from outside,the car looked ugly to some eyes.To correct this ugliness,the car was redesigned with increased hood and trunk length from outside,this made it look much better but the drawback was the lesser interior space.The second thing was the missing silver portions on the interior bits and panels of the Pakistani City.The interior would have felt lively only if some spots of it would have been in silver color.But you have alot other advantages,like 15" rims,ABS as standard,vtec engine,details of fuel milage on a special screen in the speedometer,huge boot and many other small things. In a nutshel,the new Honda City is much more refined comparitively to the previous one.The basic things which matter alot have been improved like the engine and the exterior design.The ride of the car is also improved,thanks to the small changes in the suspension.All in all,its still a great package if you see it the value-for-money way in Pakistani market atleast.


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    Fuel Consumption:- The 2005 face-lifted Honda City i-DSI achieved an impressive 26.2km per liter of fuel consumption during a challenge in June 2007. The challenge requires the vehicle to be occupied by 4 persons (including the driver), air conditioning being switched on and a load of luggage. The whole route stretched more than 660km that consists of not only highway driving but also hill climbing. ==================================== Source:-My self mostly,wikipedia and Honda atlas.


    In Short:- In short,according to me,all this proves that Honda City has been a great car for a family to have at all times for more than a decade now.It has proven its self to be a complete car one would need at a price tag it is available for.An im one of the thousands of satisfied owners of it for the past one year. Now all we need are your comments and thoughts upon this small wonder.And also do make sure you post some pix of your own city if you have,of any model.Please feel free to express your feelings about this car.

    Maintainence schedule:-

    There have been a lot of queries regarding the maintainence shedule of Honda City. To help find members and guests find this information easily and quickly, i am writing the complete maintainence shedule which i have been following for the past 5 years for my car (180,000kms).Cost of completing the job may/may not be stated. Some of it may not be the same as that in maintainence book provided by Honda people. In that case, i ll state the reason of the difference.Here goes.

    Oils:-
    Havoline formula 10W30 (3.7ltr) and oil filter change @ 3000kms. Cost 1900rs

    Transmission oil (Manual transmission) 2 ltr @ 40,000kms.
    Honda original oil 1980rs (2ltr)
    Good quality Zic/ micking oil 800rs (2ltr)

    Transmission oil ( Automatic transmission) 2lre @ 35,000kms
    Honda CVT oil ONLY (3.2-3.4L.) 1980rs

    Brake oil
    Keep it topped up and change only if padel feels very soft n goes wayy down.
    Honda original oil

    Clutch operation oil
    Keep it topped up and change only if you it shows signs of trouble

    Parts change:-

    Brake pads change:-
    recommended @ 30,000kms
    Can use any good quality pads. (labour 400rs for 4 wheels plus pads, from 500rs to 2500rs)

    Fuel filter change @ 40,000kms (IF driven on petrol)

    Air filter change @ 10,000kms Original Honda filter is best.Good quality guard filter is good too.
    980rs for OEM, 350rs for Guard filter.

    Spark plugs @ 20,000kms Original Honda plugs (8 plugs for idsi. 4 for steermatic, new city ivtec and before-2003 model City)

    Timing belt. Not required. From 2003 onwards, all honda Citys have timing chains instead of belts.They usually last a life time.

    Tune-ups :-

    Throttle body service @ 20,000kms Cost around 500rs
    Tappets adjustment / valve clearence @ 20,000kms Cost around 500rs

    Brake adjustment front not required after pads change. rear @ 30,000kms (or when front pads changed)

    Expected Life of Some parts:-

    Brake pads 35,000kms if driven aggressively ( cost already mentioned)
    Clutch plate 110,000kms if driven aggressively ( around 2000rs labour and 6000rs for clutch+pressure plate)
    Clutch bearing 150,000kms (So change with clutch plate) (800rs)
    Tuneups can be delayed to 30,000kms IF the car is run in clean enviornment like in Islamabad etc (less dust)
    Engine oil change can be delays to 5,000kms but not good in long run.

    Service Manual Honda City ids-i 2003-2008:-
    http://www.putlocker.com/file/CED54F8B8FB00360

    Tip for keeping automatic transmission (Vario and steermatic) healthy on CNG:-
    Change engine oil at 3,000kms MAX.
    Tranny oil at 30,000kms
    Tune up (throttle and valve clearence) at 20,000kms
    Do NOT ignore idleing problems. Rough idleing means jerks to transmission and thats what kills it on CNG.
    Keep air filter clean and change at 10,000kms max.

    Instrument cluster cleaning DIY
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/d-i...ening-cleaning
    Console box opening and spray painting DIY
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/d-i...-respray-diy-1
    A/c service, the easy way
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/air...ck-c-service-1
    Honda City GTG at kallar kahar
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/get...g-kallar-kahar
    2nd Honda City GTG at kallar kahar
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/get...ar-23-dec-12-a

    Thats all for now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by waleed80 View Post
    i still am of the belief that this generation city, being sporty in looks and drive, somehow looks much better with black interior. but thats just me. this beige interior does not suit it at all. i mean look at the black door handles with the beige interior. looks pretty out of place otherwise
    i somewhat agree with u... i ll like to look at it personally before i comment further on it but to me, the silver handle n panels etc doesnt go very well with that very light beige color...
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    @ ahmadbila, Happy Belated Birthday Bro, i hope you had a great one, and would an even better year ahead inshALLAH!

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    Quote Originally Posted by HussainKaisrani View Post
    Wonderful!
    I want to see my Honda City Aspire's Engine bey like this. This page and CAR Care and Detailing Dreams has tons of information But a new person like me gets confused when there is bombardment of information. Anyhow thanks for sharing your experiences with us all.
    Thanx Alot for Appreciating Dear Hussain Bhai ! I really feel greatful by your compliments. I hope you'll be get trained well by the matter of time by these Bombardments, & Dont worry, Some times My self can't digest some of heavy heavy Stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmad_yar View Post
    moeed bhai jan feeling soo happy to meet another deatiling geek affected by detailing insect

    peyare bhai excellent choice of products, application method good and results are very good mashllha , i agree with you most of us simply bling cars from outershell but we ignore rest of things , appreciate ur neat and clean work mashallha

    about new car jazakallha for ur greetings inshallha will choose olive colour or may be red if by the time indus introduce red col
    akher ko dil tu bacha hai gee na hehe
    RED COLOR!!!! Dil tu waqaiye Bacha hai Jee!! I wasn't saying about this color as I was thinking that ahmad bhai's Color list is from the elegant colors like Black or Gun Metallic!! As im a Young Biy So!! RED is my TOP MOST favorite Yarr ! If its gonna be Available then Rush for it!! Thats the Final!!! Drive Young Janaab!!
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    Some days before I was thinking that this offer is no more! But the both Bumper & Free Power window Master Switch Offer still stands as on the HONDA ATLAS Website:
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    P.S. Ab bhi agr koi DOST reh gaiya hai tu bhai daikh kiya rahay ho! Jao Offer Avail kijiyo!! hehe!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmadbila View Post
    i somewhat agree with u... i ll like to look at it personally before i comment further on it but to me, the silver handle n panels etc doesnt go very well with that very light beige color...
    Well as always said, personal likes and dislikes go a big way in shaping ones opinion in these matteres however, if you look closely, the new interior in aspire is a contrast between black, silver and grey (not beige, please correct me if i am wrong as i have not personally seen the interior). Black door handle and buttons are complementing the black dash board in this case and are not out of the place. But still, pesonal preferences will always shape opinions.....
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    Default Servicing Honda City 2000 Distributor

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    all bits and pieces of distributor on project table, only center shaft was left in housing

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    all packed in housing and cap ready to go on

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    all done, taaaa daaaa


    and car started on first self too

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    Honda City Fan Club -1016939

    done this one too

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    salam Ahmed Bhai.

    I am totally new to this forum. i gone thru some of its pages, its really impressive. the information which is provided in this forum is outclass and very easy to understand. i appreciate ur efforts. keep it up

    brother, i need ur help. i want to buy honda city from 2005 to 2007 idsi. can u help me to understand the following;

    1. what points i should keep in mind while going for a deal.
    2. which model is the best one in terms of fuel consumption & economy, comfort
    3. what is the price range for each model.

    best regards.

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    @mods

    Ahmed Bilal got married, Please close the thread

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    kaptaan was a good man, uncle mahmood it was fun ticking ur changaiz khan mood just before leaving , menay kaha us din ko yaad gar bnaoun. now ill buy more wrenches and less waxes

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    @margallar
    indeed kaaptaan was a good man, but you know one day we all have to get to our knees to that pari aanka zaat and leave all our likes and dislikes for one, kuch aisa hi hova idhr bhi. chalo koi nahi hum dil bhara kar k thora ro kar chup kar jain ***.

    it was fun time with you, thanks for dropping by buddy and kia karin bas apne changezi mood par kabhi gharoor nahi kiya and you know what therz something good about wrenches and spanners, they not only are cheaper then waxes but also last longer then them

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    Quote Originally Posted by mahmood View Post
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    Ahmed Bilal got married, Please close the thread
    Sorry to say! But I totally Disagree!! The captain by himself said that this ship is not his ship all the way! Any good & knowledgeable person like you can Steer it to right direction!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skt_Z4 View Post
    Sorry to say! But I totally Disagree!! The captain by himself said that this ship is not his ship all the way! Any good & knowledgeable person like you can Steer it to right direction!!
    you disagree to the part that @kaaptaan got married or closing the thread koi nahi yaar kia hova agar apna @kaaptaan thora healthy hai par iss ka yeh matlab tu nahi k uss ki shaadi nahi ho sakte let me tell you guys lil bit of story of my office colleague, ahmed seems to be in same situation

    so one of my office colleague got married like 4 months back or so, and about a week after his marriage i had to call him to discuss some of office matter and i asked " pa ki kidhr ho " he replied " chand par hoon, bari achi jagah hai " i then replied " beta aahista aahista neche aana shuru kar de, itne oonchai se aik dam gira na tu tere spare parts bhi nahi milin *** jitna tu hai "

    moral of the story, if our kaaptaan didnt show up till eid, we will be selecting a new jamhuri kaaptaan

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    I hope he does not have papers or something else?
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    I have been a silent member at Pak Wheels for over a year now. But i think its time to speak. 90% of post here are misguiding and full of lies dont know why as a Nation we have made it a habit of lying and then defending it. Bought Suzuki Alto VXR in July 2012, after 2000Kms of mileage its giving me an average of 11 Kms/Litre. I booked Honda City Aspire Prosmatec -Polish Metal Metallic. The car has just arrived today at the showroom will take the deliver on Saturday. Its with beige interior and Accord type (As in accord) Rims. A friend of mine got one Aspire Prosmatec in July End hes getting a mileage of 9-10Kms/Ltr so far. People please stop lying atleast in the month of Ramzan!

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    Quote Originally Posted by smarslan View Post
    I have been a silent member at Pak Wheels for over a year now. But i think its time to speak. 90% of post here are misguiding and full of lies dont know why as a Nation we have made it a habit of lying and then defending it. Bought Suzuki Alto VXR in July 2012, after 2000Kms of mileage its giving me an average of 11 Kms/Litre. I booked Honda City Aspire Prosmatec -Polish Metal Metallic. The car has just arrived today at the showroom will take the deliver on Saturday. Its with beige interior and Accord type (As in accord) Rims. A friend of mine got one Aspire Prosmatec in July End hes getting a mileage of 9-10Kms/Ltr so far. People please stop lying atleast in the month of Ramzan!
    first of all let me catch the opportunity to welcome you to the city fan club.
    now lets put alto aside in this thread, rest i only understood your post as a big bang theory to announce that you will be getting new aspire!! so what lies you found there in city fan club, be more specific and members at least here will entertain your complaints, i am on pw since 2004 and city fan club is one place on whole pw to hang around, all technical stuff said here is based on practical experiences of members and is field tested. even than you feel some lies said plz mention and prove your point thru discussion , isn't that whole point of forums??

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    Quote Originally Posted by mahmood View Post
    you disagree to the part that @kaaptaan got married or closing the thread koi nahi yaar kia hova agar apna @kaaptaan thora healthy hai par iss ka yeh matlab tu nahi k uss ki shaadi nahi ho sakte let me tell you guys lil bit of story of my office colleague, ahmed seems to be in same situation

    so one of my office colleague got married like 4 months back or so, and about a week after his marriage i had to call him to discuss some of office matter and i asked " pa ki kidhr ho " he replied " chand par hoon, bari achi jagah hai " i then replied " beta aahista aahista neche aana shuru kar de, itne oonchai se aik dam gira na tu tere spare parts bhi nahi milin *** jitna tu hai "

    moral of the story, if our kaaptaan didnt show up till eid, we will be selecting a new jamhuri kaaptaan
    O no My Friend ! I Disagreed about closing the Thread which i perfectly know you just made a good joke! & Getting married is every one's right sanno ki Aitrazz Hona Bhaijaan !! & Health tu MASHA-ALLAH bilkul perfect hai unki. & By the way nice funny story I really liked it!! lolz!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by mahmood View Post
    Honda City Fan Club -1016937
    all bits and pieces of distributor on project table, only center shaft was left in housing


    all packed in housing and cap ready to go on

    Honda City Fan Club -1016936
    all done, taaaa daaaa


    and car started on first self too
    Really nice Service Mahmood Bhai ! Your truly an Excellent Expert!! Keep it up!!
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    @ Mahmood

    What power steering do you recommend for my 2002 City. I know Honda is the best but i recently got a seal job done on the steering rack side. The mechanic added some weird oil and asked me to change it with zic after a week. A couple of weeks later i replaced it with FUCHS DEXRON II Mineral oil. I am not sure if i should continue with it or replace it again with Honda fluid.

    Thanks

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