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    Default Honda City Fan Club

    (Maintainence schedule added at the end)

    Hi guys..!!! I thought we should have a Fan club for honda city.Theres already a fourm for City but thats dedicated to city steermatic only.in this club,we shall hav steermatic,idsi,cvt nd all models of city and all their variants. Well the history of this car is somewhat like this...


    First generation (1997-2000) On january 22nd 1997,the first Honda City was launched as a sedan.The city was always made for families and not for racing or sports.Thats why they were always equiped with the latest or sometimes firsts in the market.The interior was always very comforting and the seating position is also very comfortable.It had the options of power windows,and side view mirrors for the top model though they were not there in the base model.Power steeing,front seatbelts,digital clock,AC was available in the basic model too.One the outside,it was very elegantly designed.Beautiful,handsome and decent.Under the hood,it had a 1300cc 16valve SOHC engine ,and was the first car to have 16-valve in 1300cc category.


    Second generation (2000-2003) On January 20th 2000, Honda replaced the original City of 1997 with an update.This model of city had the basic shape of its predecessor.but with new crystal head lamps at the front,power side view mirrors and a chrome lining around the rear numberplate garnish.It was the first car in pakistan to have rear crystal headlights.It had two varients. Exi and Exi-s.The Exi had manual windows and side view mirrors,body colored licence plate garnish(not chromed), semi-fabric seat covers, 165/13 tyres,black door mirrors and no high mount stop lamp.But the Exi-s had all these things in it.The outside looked more gracefull with crystal lights and some new lines on the exterior.The engine in both of them were same.But this one had Programed fuel injection(PGM-Fi).There was optional 4-speed automatic transmission available. The engine engine's maximum horse power=90/6400 and maximum torque =11.5/4700 This model was produced until 2003


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    Third generation (2003-2005) On 23rd August 2003, the third-generation Honda City was launched which had a totally new shape.It was a very stylish and aerodynamic shape introduced in pakistan for the first time.It also was the first car to introduce i-dsi (intelligence-dual and sequential ignation) and CVT (continuously variable transmission) in Pakistan.It had an engine which is higly fuel economic and was build specially for better fuel economy.This car was equipped with power windows(pinch free) , power side view mirrors, tilt adjustable steering column and yet another first,the EPS or electriconic power steering.it made the steering very very soft to turn and also it had no oil used in it so it had no maintanence required.Other featrure of this car is that its the first Euro 3 comliant car in pakistan,that means that its very low on harmful emmisions.The EURO 3 emission standard are applicable in Europe from the year 2000, they are considered to be amongst the most strict standards worldwide. The standard limits emissions to 2.1 g/kWh CO, 0.66 g/kWh HC, 5.0 g/kWh NOx, 0.1 g/kWh particles. Another striking feature is, the boot space(400ltrs).it was bigger then any local car availabe at that time.This car was basically meant for families.it had two glove compartments,a big boot,empty space under the rear seats, four glass holders,and also, a smal space provided in the two front doors.And guess what? All of these options were available in the basic version.This city was divided on just the basis of the drive-train.One was manual,and other was automatic. On the outside,this car was designed very sophisticatedly,it looked smaller than other cars in size from outside but is alot more spacious inside.the body design was an immediate hit among fans and poeple who knew somthing about this type of things.Even the side view mirrors are designed to cut through air.


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    Fourth generation (2005-present) In september 2005,the fourth generation City was released.It was basically a face-lifted version on the previous model.it is known as the City ZX in Thailand, India, the New City in Malaysia and City in Pakistan.The most significant changes are a new exterior (new front grille, new headlamps, new fog lights, newtaillights and bumpers). The front end has been extended forward by 65 mm (2.6 in) while the rear has been extended by 15 mm (0.6 in). The VTEC trim have 15 inch alloy wheels as standard equipment. Interior changes are minor but it does include an armrest for the driver.The rest remains almost same as in the previous model. The engine remains the same but the intake manifold has been modified, resulting a 10% temperature drop in the intake air temperature (IAT), the suspension has been upgraded as well. Honda City in Pakistan are using CVT gearbox for both i-DSI and VTEC variants. The CVT-VTEC 1.5L gearbox is equipped with a Simulated 7-Speed Automated Manual Transmission (AMT) using paddle shift buttons. This is very rare for a subcompact of its class.This VTEC variant was called City-steermatic.

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    Steermatic:- The steermatic is basicaly a name of a technology used in the city VTEC 1.5L model.this model had a different engine than the idsi.it had a 1.5L engine with an auto transmission.this was not any other auto transmission.its is steermatic,means that you can change gears just by push of a button on the steering wheel.this is basically used in F1 racing.It has 2 options,either you drive on fully automated CVT option,or you select a virtual manual transmission.For this,you would change the gears when you want with a push of a button.This model also have an opitiron meter and also stock imported 15" alloy rims with bridgestone Potenza tyres. This technology is very sophisticated and advanced,which,sadly was'nt accepted by the buyers in Pakistan because they simply could not understand it and hence,this particular model of city was discontined.


    I-dsi:- I-dsi stands for Intelligence-dual and sequential ignation.In this type of engine,two spark plugs are employed for each cylinder.That makes 8 spark plugs instead of 4 plugs used by most cars.Adding of an additional plug assures complete burning and utilizing the last drop of fuel thrown into the cylinders which would provide you the best performace and better fuel consumption.Not all the times the 8 plugs are working,but when u push your car through high revs or speeds,all of them work simeltaneously and thats when ypu can feel the difference.But theres one drawback in it,this engine is equiped with 8 valves not 16.Hence it decreased the performance and city seems to be out of breath after 5000RPMs,but as this is basically a family car,performance is not the priority.The best thing about this was the fuel economy,about which,you can read the paragraph below.

    Fifth generation (2009 onwards) On 31th january 2009,the fifth generation of the honda City was launched in Pakistan.Which was an immediate hit among the fans.The previous Honda City was criticised due to its shape,but this time the best thing was the shape,which is even more aerodynamic then the previous one and also resembles the big Honda brothers,Civic and Accord.The best thing about the exterior of this City is the front view of the car.The wide,sleek and elegently designed radiator grill gives a refreashing look to the car.The dimesions of the car are almost similar to those of the older model.The sharp lines on the hood gives the city some attitude on the road.The boot space is increased about 25%,from 400ltrs to 506ltrs.But the good news doesnt end there,under the hood,There is a fairly powerful 1.3L SOHC VTEC engine.which produces a healthy 100bhp,enough for a 1.3L car.But dont think that you would have to lose something on the fuel economy side to get this sort of power.The fuel economy is actually improved.Some indian car expert magzines gave the figures of 22km/ltr for the auto transmission,which is the best in its class.The emission standards are improved as well.Previous city was Euro 3 compliant,but the new city is Euro 4 compliant.which means that your car is enviornment friendly.The only thing which you need to be concered about is the interior,which feels abit cramped campared to the previous City,but there is a reason to it.In the pervious city.the hood and the trunk had only a small portion of the exterior length covered,and the cabin was much bigger,which gave nice interior space,but from outside,the car looked ugly to some eyes.To correct this ugliness,the car was redesigned with increased hood and trunk length from outside,this made it look much better but the drawback was the lesser interior space.The second thing was the missing silver portions on the interior bits and panels of the Pakistani City.The interior would have felt lively only if some spots of it would have been in silver color.But you have alot other advantages,like 15" rims,ABS as standard,vtec engine,details of fuel milage on a special screen in the speedometer,huge boot and many other small things. In a nutshel,the new Honda City is much more refined comparitively to the previous one.The basic things which matter alot have been improved like the engine and the exterior design.The ride of the car is also improved,thanks to the small changes in the suspension.All in all,its still a great package if you see it the value-for-money way in Pakistani market atleast.


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    Fuel Consumption:- The 2005 face-lifted Honda City i-DSI achieved an impressive 26.2km per liter of fuel consumption during a challenge in June 2007. The challenge requires the vehicle to be occupied by 4 persons (including the driver), air conditioning being switched on and a load of luggage. The whole route stretched more than 660km that consists of not only highway driving but also hill climbing. ==================================== Source:-My self mostly,wikipedia and Honda atlas.


    In Short:- In short,according to me,all this proves that Honda City has been a great car for a family to have at all times for more than a decade now.It has proven its self to be a complete car one would need at a price tag it is available for.An im one of the thousands of satisfied owners of it for the past one year. Now all we need are your comments and thoughts upon this small wonder.And also do make sure you post some pix of your own city if you have,of any model.Please feel free to express your feelings about this car.

    Maintainence schedule:-

    There have been a lot of queries regarding the maintainence shedule of Honda City. To help find members and guests find this information easily and quickly, i am writing the complete maintainence shedule which i have been following for the past 5 years for my car (180,000kms).Cost of completing the job may/may not be stated. Some of it may not be the same as that in maintainence book provided by Honda people. In that case, i ll state the reason of the difference.Here goes.

    Oils:-
    Havoline formula 10W30 (3.7ltr) and oil filter change @ 3000kms. Cost 1900rs

    Transmission oil (Manual transmission) 2 ltr @ 40,000kms.
    Honda original oil 1980rs (2ltr)
    Good quality Zic/ micking oil 800rs (2ltr)

    Transmission oil ( Automatic transmission) 2lre @ 35,000kms
    Honda CVT oil ONLY (3.2-3.4L.) 1980rs

    Brake oil
    Keep it topped up and change only if padel feels very soft n goes wayy down.
    Honda original oil

    Clutch operation oil
    Keep it topped up and change only if you it shows signs of trouble

    Parts change:-

    Brake pads change:-
    recommended @ 30,000kms
    Can use any good quality pads. (labour 400rs for 4 wheels plus pads, from 500rs to 2500rs)

    Fuel filter change @ 40,000kms (IF driven on petrol)

    Air filter change @ 10,000kms Original Honda filter is best.Good quality guard filter is good too.
    980rs for OEM, 350rs for Guard filter.

    Spark plugs @ 20,000kms Original Honda plugs (8 plugs for idsi. 4 for steermatic, new city ivtec and before-2003 model City)

    Timing belt. Not required. From 2003 onwards, all honda Citys have timing chains instead of belts.They usually last a life time.

    Tune-ups :-

    Throttle body service @ 20,000kms Cost around 500rs
    Tappets adjustment / valve clearence @ 20,000kms Cost around 500rs

    Brake adjustment front not required after pads change. rear @ 30,000kms (or when front pads changed)

    Expected Life of Some parts:-

    Brake pads 35,000kms if driven aggressively ( cost already mentioned)
    Clutch plate 110,000kms if driven aggressively ( around 2000rs labour and 6000rs for clutch+pressure plate)
    Clutch bearing 150,000kms (So change with clutch plate) (800rs)
    Tuneups can be delayed to 30,000kms IF the car is run in clean enviornment like in Islamabad etc (less dust)
    Engine oil change can be delays to 5,000kms but not good in long run.

    Service Manual Honda City ids-i 2003-2008:-
    http://www.putlocker.com/file/CED54F8B8FB00360

    Tip for keeping automatic transmission (Vario and steermatic) healthy on CNG:-
    Change engine oil at 3,000kms MAX.
    Tranny oil at 30,000kms
    Tune up (throttle and valve clearence) at 20,000kms
    Do NOT ignore idleing problems. Rough idleing means jerks to transmission and thats what kills it on CNG.
    Keep air filter clean and change at 10,000kms max.

    Instrument cluster cleaning DIY
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/d-i...ening-cleaning
    Console box opening and spray painting DIY
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/d-i...-respray-diy-1
    A/c service, the easy way
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/air...ck-c-service-1
    Honda City GTG at kallar kahar
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/get...g-kallar-kahar
    2nd Honda City GTG at kallar kahar
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/get...ar-23-dec-12-a

    Thats all for now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by babarhyd View Post
    Guys I have an issue here, yesterday I got my car serviced after the long journey of 800+KMs. Now the problem I am facing is my headlights are not turning on at night instantly i.e. they are taking some time like 5 to 10 mins only after than they are working same thing is with dipper its not working but when I am turning on headlight switch for like 5 to 10 mins only than they suddenly start up. No i am not using any HIDs is totally on genuine assembly and genuine electrical works.

    Well that sort of problem comes when the headlights relay are not working properly... and probably in your case the relay might have got wet so once u change it it will start working fine again...

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    Quote Originally Posted by faisalirshad View Post
    Well that sort of problem comes when the headlights relay are not working properly... and probably in your case the relay might have got wet so once u change it it will start working fine again...
    thanx for replying bro but I dont have the repair manual and I dont trust mechanics/electricians at Quetta, I would love to do this job myself if I know where are these relays located?

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    Quote Originally Posted by babarhyd View Post
    thanx for replying bro but I dont have the repair manual and I dont trust mechanics/electricians at Quetta, I would love to do this job myself if I know where are these relays located?
    Which model of city do you have may be I can help

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    ^^04 model

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    Quote Originally Posted by waleed80 View Post
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    what should be the demad for City 2012, Albaster silver, comprehensively insured, Islamabad registered, Advan db 185/65 tyres, 4800 kilometers on ODO...scratchless
    Waleed bro what am i listening...Didn't you wrote in your caption that "Blessed by Allah with a White 2012 City MT" and now you are saying you that you got one in Alabaster Silver Metallic!!!
    For swift and gutsy response use CIVIC!!!

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    Guys want to know how is the performance of City Prosmatec am looking forward to book one or you guys would suggest Manual!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by a_n_memon88 View Post
    Which model of city do you have may be I can help
    Its 2004 model vario as fahad mentioned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by a_n_memon88 View Post
    According to my bacha knowledge hi octan has greater RON so it can be compressed much more than ordinary petrol. So to take full maza of hi octane you need to advance the timing of your a little bit just as you do on CNG and than see the difference
    According to my bachay ka bhi bacha knowledge, advancing the timing wud cause missfire on hobc. the reason?

    when they say it can be compressed much more then regular petrol, they mean it can be compressed more then regular petrol BEFORE the compression causes auto ignition due to high temperature. now, if u advance the timing, ignition will occur before the compression has completed, so it wud probably cause knocking n may be missfire too.

    2ndly, the hobc that we get is barely 89 RON which is standard petrol internationally. hobc is actually 91 or 93 atleast. so, we are just getting good quality petrol and for anything above comp ration of 10:1 , ATLEAST 89 RON is required...

    anyways, dont take that as final. i just kicked my brain to let me know wat wud happen if timing is advanced on petrol, may be brain is just trolling me
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    just in case if someone interested. (sorry for being off topic)

    Rockmars DVD Touch screen Panel and Back view cam for 09-12 model. (4 month warranty remaining)
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    honda city exis automatic for sale excellent condition no work required petrol driven can be seen in islamabad pics are also attached for convinence driven 98000 only, black colour chilling ac, performance plugs of autolite,takida induction kit, pviot stablizer, ground wires, brand new tires ,digital rpm meter, drop suspention, hidz, side extentions, back spoiler , lather seats geniun one hand driven , original documents lahore registration with 3 digit number contact serious buyers on 0312-5550102 Naveed , demand is 775000 slightly negotiable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sonumalik View Post
    honda city exis automatic for sale excellent condition no work required petrol driven can be seen in islamabad pics are also attached for convinence driven 98000 only, black colour chilling ac, performance plugs of autolite,takida induction kit, pviot stablizer, ground wires, brand new tires ,digital rpm meter, drop suspention, hidz, side extentions, back spoiler , lather seats geniun one hand driven , original documents lahore registration with 3 digit number contact serious buyers on 0312-5550102 Naveed , demand is 775000 slightly negotiable.
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    hi guys. so here i m once again after two very eventful days with regards to my car. kind of long story but i will try to keep it short somehow. so here it is

    Yesterday morning, i took the car to the Honda guys again (for the third time) and told them to resolve the problem of that sound coming from underneath. i made sure i was there at 9 in the morning so that they receive my car as the first car of the day and dont have lame excuses of having too many cars to look at in parallel. but i somehow sensed that they were not in the mood to address the issue, yet again. so, meanwhile they were looking at my car (looking only i guess), i went upstairs and asked the customer support guys to take me to the senior most person available in the showroom. they guided me to a guy and i narrated the whole story, and also told him that i dont think something is gonna happen even today. well, nice of him, he accompanied me downstairs to the workshop, and to the perfection we reached at the EXACT time when the testing guy brought the car back and said "sir jee yeh tau normal gear kee awaz hey" and he demonstrated by releasing the clutch suddenly in the first gear and that "thud" sound which offcourse every car on earth makes. i started laughing and requested their boss to accompany me for the test drive, alongwith the test driver. surely, when i drove the hell out of the car, the sound started coming to which thankfully both guys agreed.

    well then...they took the car to the general repair (they call it GR) and there they tactfully started adjusting the car here and there. i kept on telling them that guys PLEASE dont release the accelerator as the car will cool off and that sound wont come anymore but they dint listen to me. anyways, they lifted the car with that slow-mo hydraulic jack of theirs which again took ages, so resultantly when the car was up there, and when they shook the exhaust assembly, no sound was coming (i have mentioned in the previous posts that the sound ONLY came when u drove the hell out of the car, for fun, for emergency, whatever may be the reason). so the test driver guy turned towards me and said "sir mein tau aap ko pehlay hee keh raha tha koi awaaz naheen hey" ....and that...was...it.....within one microsecond, i lost it, and opened up a huge vocabulary of ____and ___ and ___, shouting at the top of my voice. i dont even have the words to explain, but guys trust me, it was very very VERY bad, which they richly deserved. so i told them "guys, let me make it very simple for u. either u guys are fixing the car today and hand it over to me, OR u guys are keeping it with urself and put it right, no matter it takes a week or a month. call me when its ok, and i m not paying a single penny for its repair. and let me see you guys not putting i right. i wud skip honda atlas from the chain and straightaway contact Honda japan, and the consequences thereon will not be my responsibility". then i made the test driver guy sit with me and took him to my decade old awesome trusted mechanic and took the car to the drive in pit (the one which is used by the wheel alignment guys....at the same level as that of the road so there is no time wasted by raising the car up and all) and told the macho guy to get down and shove his fat a s s in the pit, shake the exhaust pipe and listen to the dam sound. and he was like "oh yes yes...now i can listen..u r right". well i came back ad shunted them all again. that was the perfect catalyst. in a moment, there were like 9 guys under the car, a series of test drives, opening the whole exhaust starting from the headers, part by part, testing, cleaning, this and that. so much so they even changed the whole assembly with another honda city parked over there which had come for denting and painting and actually THAT was the real diagnostic. the problem was with a metallic ring which was in between the 2nd and 3rd stage of the exhaust. its job is to keep the both parts apart, keep a lil distance between them even if the car is super hot and the metal has expanded a little bit. the ring, for some reason, wasnt doing its job. so they changed it, under warranty, and the matter was resolved
    PS : they told me on the last test drive that IF the problem is of the catalytic converter, it will not be covered under the warranty and i wud have to pay for the replacement part, which would cost me like 50k rupees. i was like "dream on guys. a car driven for 5000 km and i pay 50000 rupees for it while its absolutely under warranty, over my dead body" . so they go like " but sir its blockage is related to the poor fuel, not our fault" . i told them " brother...even if u urinate in the tank day and night and dont put ANY petrol in it, even then the catalytic converter can NOT be blocked within 5000 km of a brand new car, so stop f u c k i n g with me and find the REAL problem"

    PS 2: after one of the failed test drives, they told me to keep on sitting in the car so that i keep on pressing the accelerator while they were raising the car on the hydraulic lift. i took few snaps while being in the car and posting them for fun sake

    Honda City Fan Club -1037578Honda City Fan Club -1037579Honda City Fan Club -1037580

    Day two...today
    took the car today AGAIN to them for another minor sound which was coming from under the hood. it was a litle dugg dugg sound when the car is in the first gear and negotiating a rough or uneven patch of road, as if something is loose under the hood and hitting something. so the moment they saw me, they all started smiling and started looking at each other, as if to say "no bro...i am not going near this customer"....so, i carried the mood from yesterday and said " stop smiling guys...either u smile OR u frown, my complaint HAS to be addressed. so stop wasting ur time and get on it" . meanwhile i had already met their boss and they had seen me coming out of his office so they couldnt dodge. lol. anyways, today was an easy ordeal. they took the car for a test drive with me, brought it back, tightened few bolts of engine mounting and here and there, and the matter was resolved, again offcourse free of cost

    PS : yesterday, i got free at 5 in the evening, starting from 9 30 in the morning

    so in the end, all ended well now the car is perfectly OK and back to its best

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    its related to the above post actually so today when i came back, i was really happy for the car and the weather was awesome too, so i decided to take the family for a fun ride to murree. went till murree. stopped for few snacks and pictures, came back, got stuck in a HUGE traffic jam for about 30 minutes or so, so diverted and got stuck in another near Rawalpindi medical college (where i turned on the AC actually..before that it was otherwise too cold). then went to my parents place and then back home. had reset my trip meter after fuel tank, which i had filled actually yesterday, so all todays test drives plus visit to CMH and to my son's school and all, everything involved, just now i parked the car and HERE is the fuel average i got not bad i guess

    PS : repeating, went to murree, all hike offcourse, in the same tank

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    PS 2 : if i had not gotten stuck in traffic jam on the way back, i would had definitely been getting around 21 i reckon (just my estimate..might be wrong)

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    Waleed bro what am i listening...Didn't you wrote in your caption that "Blessed by Allah with a White 2012 City MT" and now you are saying you that you got one in Alabaster Silver Metallic!!!
    no bro. i only mentioned that "blessed by Allah with a 2012 Honda city MT". never mentioned white let me have a look at it and enable it again. wait

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    Where has everyone gone?

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    Sir its good to see that your issue has been resolved. One can imagine the feeling of being tension free after something bothering you for a long time is no longer there.

    With the dealerships, you have to be direct. No casual attitude. Because they might know the answer, they just dont want to get into the hassle and that too for free.

    All the best in enjoying your ride.
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    thinking to sell the city i have and get a facelift City 2006

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    if you kept your car well then just fix it, finding a good car is a big headache

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    where is the main relay on honda city exis located ? I am having starting up. When i crank , Engine doesnt even go for a single cycle. If i keep trying it sometimes starts. My car always used to start with half self. The problem started today in the morning , when it started it ran fine but now it wudnt start again. Even tried dhakka.

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