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    Default Honda City Fan Club

    (Maintainence schedule added at the end)

    Hi guys..!!! I thought we should have a Fan club for honda city.Theres already a fourm for City but thats dedicated to city steermatic only.in this club,we shall hav steermatic,idsi,cvt nd all models of city and all their variants. Well the history of this car is somewhat like this...


    First generation (1997-2000) On january 22nd 1997,the first Honda City was launched as a sedan.The city was always made for families and not for racing or sports.Thats why they were always equiped with the latest or sometimes firsts in the market.The interior was always very comforting and the seating position is also very comfortable.It had the options of power windows,and side view mirrors for the top model though they were not there in the base model.Power steeing,front seatbelts,digital clock,AC was available in the basic model too.One the outside,it was very elegantly designed.Beautiful,handsome and decent.Under the hood,it had a 1300cc 16valve SOHC engine ,and was the first car to have 16-valve in 1300cc category.


    Second generation (2000-2003) On January 20th 2000, Honda replaced the original City of 1997 with an update.This model of city had the basic shape of its predecessor.but with new crystal head lamps at the front,power side view mirrors and a chrome lining around the rear numberplate garnish.It was the first car in pakistan to have rear crystal headlights.It had two varients. Exi and Exi-s.The Exi had manual windows and side view mirrors,body colored licence plate garnish(not chromed), semi-fabric seat covers, 165/13 tyres,black door mirrors and no high mount stop lamp.But the Exi-s had all these things in it.The outside looked more gracefull with crystal lights and some new lines on the exterior.The engine in both of them were same.But this one had Programed fuel injection(PGM-Fi).There was optional 4-speed automatic transmission available. The engine engine's maximum horse power=90/6400 and maximum torque =11.5/4700 This model was produced until 2003


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    Third generation (2003-2005) On 23rd August 2003, the third-generation Honda City was launched which had a totally new shape.It was a very stylish and aerodynamic shape introduced in pakistan for the first time.It also was the first car to introduce i-dsi (intelligence-dual and sequential ignation) and CVT (continuously variable transmission) in Pakistan.It had an engine which is higly fuel economic and was build specially for better fuel economy.This car was equipped with power windows(pinch free) , power side view mirrors, tilt adjustable steering column and yet another first,the EPS or electriconic power steering.it made the steering very very soft to turn and also it had no oil used in it so it had no maintanence required.Other featrure of this car is that its the first Euro 3 comliant car in pakistan,that means that its very low on harmful emmisions.The EURO 3 emission standard are applicable in Europe from the year 2000, they are considered to be amongst the most strict standards worldwide. The standard limits emissions to 2.1 g/kWh CO, 0.66 g/kWh HC, 5.0 g/kWh NOx, 0.1 g/kWh particles. Another striking feature is, the boot space(400ltrs).it was bigger then any local car availabe at that time.This car was basically meant for families.it had two glove compartments,a big boot,empty space under the rear seats, four glass holders,and also, a smal space provided in the two front doors.And guess what? All of these options were available in the basic version.This city was divided on just the basis of the drive-train.One was manual,and other was automatic. On the outside,this car was designed very sophisticatedly,it looked smaller than other cars in size from outside but is alot more spacious inside.the body design was an immediate hit among fans and poeple who knew somthing about this type of things.Even the side view mirrors are designed to cut through air.


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    Fourth generation (2005-present) In september 2005,the fourth generation City was released.It was basically a face-lifted version on the previous model.it is known as the City ZX in Thailand, India, the New City in Malaysia and City in Pakistan.The most significant changes are a new exterior (new front grille, new headlamps, new fog lights, newtaillights and bumpers). The front end has been extended forward by 65 mm (2.6 in) while the rear has been extended by 15 mm (0.6 in). The VTEC trim have 15 inch alloy wheels as standard equipment. Interior changes are minor but it does include an armrest for the driver.The rest remains almost same as in the previous model. The engine remains the same but the intake manifold has been modified, resulting a 10% temperature drop in the intake air temperature (IAT), the suspension has been upgraded as well. Honda City in Pakistan are using CVT gearbox for both i-DSI and VTEC variants. The CVT-VTEC 1.5L gearbox is equipped with a Simulated 7-Speed Automated Manual Transmission (AMT) using paddle shift buttons. This is very rare for a subcompact of its class.This VTEC variant was called City-steermatic.

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    Steermatic:- The steermatic is basicaly a name of a technology used in the city VTEC 1.5L model.this model had a different engine than the idsi.it had a 1.5L engine with an auto transmission.this was not any other auto transmission.its is steermatic,means that you can change gears just by push of a button on the steering wheel.this is basically used in F1 racing.It has 2 options,either you drive on fully automated CVT option,or you select a virtual manual transmission.For this,you would change the gears when you want with a push of a button.This model also have an opitiron meter and also stock imported 15" alloy rims with bridgestone Potenza tyres. This technology is very sophisticated and advanced,which,sadly was'nt accepted by the buyers in Pakistan because they simply could not understand it and hence,this particular model of city was discontined.


    I-dsi:- I-dsi stands for Intelligence-dual and sequential ignation.In this type of engine,two spark plugs are employed for each cylinder.That makes 8 spark plugs instead of 4 plugs used by most cars.Adding of an additional plug assures complete burning and utilizing the last drop of fuel thrown into the cylinders which would provide you the best performace and better fuel consumption.Not all the times the 8 plugs are working,but when u push your car through high revs or speeds,all of them work simeltaneously and thats when ypu can feel the difference.But theres one drawback in it,this engine is equiped with 8 valves not 16.Hence it decreased the performance and city seems to be out of breath after 5000RPMs,but as this is basically a family car,performance is not the priority.The best thing about this was the fuel economy,about which,you can read the paragraph below.

    Fifth generation (2009 onwards) On 31th january 2009,the fifth generation of the honda City was launched in Pakistan.Which was an immediate hit among the fans.The previous Honda City was criticised due to its shape,but this time the best thing was the shape,which is even more aerodynamic then the previous one and also resembles the big Honda brothers,Civic and Accord.The best thing about the exterior of this City is the front view of the car.The wide,sleek and elegently designed radiator grill gives a refreashing look to the car.The dimesions of the car are almost similar to those of the older model.The sharp lines on the hood gives the city some attitude on the road.The boot space is increased about 25%,from 400ltrs to 506ltrs.But the good news doesnt end there,under the hood,There is a fairly powerful 1.3L SOHC VTEC engine.which produces a healthy 100bhp,enough for a 1.3L car.But dont think that you would have to lose something on the fuel economy side to get this sort of power.The fuel economy is actually improved.Some indian car expert magzines gave the figures of 22km/ltr for the auto transmission,which is the best in its class.The emission standards are improved as well.Previous city was Euro 3 compliant,but the new city is Euro 4 compliant.which means that your car is enviornment friendly.The only thing which you need to be concered about is the interior,which feels abit cramped campared to the previous City,but there is a reason to it.In the pervious city.the hood and the trunk had only a small portion of the exterior length covered,and the cabin was much bigger,which gave nice interior space,but from outside,the car looked ugly to some eyes.To correct this ugliness,the car was redesigned with increased hood and trunk length from outside,this made it look much better but the drawback was the lesser interior space.The second thing was the missing silver portions on the interior bits and panels of the Pakistani City.The interior would have felt lively only if some spots of it would have been in silver color.But you have alot other advantages,like 15" rims,ABS as standard,vtec engine,details of fuel milage on a special screen in the speedometer,huge boot and many other small things. In a nutshel,the new Honda City is much more refined comparitively to the previous one.The basic things which matter alot have been improved like the engine and the exterior design.The ride of the car is also improved,thanks to the small changes in the suspension.All in all,its still a great package if you see it the value-for-money way in Pakistani market atleast.


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    Fuel Consumption:- The 2005 face-lifted Honda City i-DSI achieved an impressive 26.2km per liter of fuel consumption during a challenge in June 2007. The challenge requires the vehicle to be occupied by 4 persons (including the driver), air conditioning being switched on and a load of luggage. The whole route stretched more than 660km that consists of not only highway driving but also hill climbing. ==================================== Source:-My self mostly,wikipedia and Honda atlas.


    In Short:- In short,according to me,all this proves that Honda City has been a great car for a family to have at all times for more than a decade now.It has proven its self to be a complete car one would need at a price tag it is available for.An im one of the thousands of satisfied owners of it for the past one year. Now all we need are your comments and thoughts upon this small wonder.And also do make sure you post some pix of your own city if you have,of any model.Please feel free to express your feelings about this car.

    Maintainence schedule:-

    There have been a lot of queries regarding the maintainence shedule of Honda City. To help find members and guests find this information easily and quickly, i am writing the complete maintainence shedule which i have been following for the past 5 years for my car (180,000kms).Cost of completing the job may/may not be stated. Some of it may not be the same as that in maintainence book provided by Honda people. In that case, i ll state the reason of the difference.Here goes.

    Oils:-
    Havoline formula 10W30 (3.7ltr) and oil filter change @ 3000kms. Cost 1900rs

    Transmission oil (Manual transmission) 2 ltr @ 40,000kms.
    Honda original oil 1980rs (2ltr)
    Good quality Zic/ micking oil 800rs (2ltr)

    Transmission oil ( Automatic transmission) 2lre @ 35,000kms
    Honda CVT oil ONLY (3.2-3.4L.) 1980rs

    Brake oil
    Keep it topped up and change only if padel feels very soft n goes wayy down.
    Honda original oil

    Clutch operation oil
    Keep it topped up and change only if you it shows signs of trouble

    Parts change:-

    Brake pads change:-
    recommended @ 30,000kms
    Can use any good quality pads. (labour 400rs for 4 wheels plus pads, from 500rs to 2500rs)

    Fuel filter change @ 40,000kms (IF driven on petrol)

    Air filter change @ 10,000kms Original Honda filter is best.Good quality guard filter is good too.
    980rs for OEM, 350rs for Guard filter.

    Spark plugs @ 20,000kms Original Honda plugs (8 plugs for idsi. 4 for steermatic, new city ivtec and before-2003 model City)

    Timing belt. Not required. From 2003 onwards, all honda Citys have timing chains instead of belts.They usually last a life time.

    Tune-ups :-

    Throttle body service @ 20,000kms Cost around 500rs
    Tappets adjustment / valve clearence @ 20,000kms Cost around 500rs

    Brake adjustment front not required after pads change. rear @ 30,000kms (or when front pads changed)

    Expected Life of Some parts:-

    Brake pads 35,000kms if driven aggressively ( cost already mentioned)
    Clutch plate 110,000kms if driven aggressively ( around 2000rs labour and 6000rs for clutch+pressure plate)
    Clutch bearing 150,000kms (So change with clutch plate) (800rs)
    Tuneups can be delayed to 30,000kms IF the car is run in clean enviornment like in Islamabad etc (less dust)
    Engine oil change can be delays to 5,000kms but not good in long run.

    Service Manual Honda City ids-i 2003-2008:-
    http://www.putlocker.com/file/CED54F8B8FB00360

    Tip for keeping automatic transmission (Vario and steermatic) healthy on CNG:-
    Change engine oil at 3,000kms MAX.
    Tranny oil at 30,000kms
    Tune up (throttle and valve clearence) at 20,000kms
    Do NOT ignore idleing problems. Rough idleing means jerks to transmission and thats what kills it on CNG.
    Keep air filter clean and change at 10,000kms max.

    Instrument cluster cleaning DIY
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/d-i...ening-cleaning
    Console box opening and spray painting DIY
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/d-i...-respray-diy-1
    A/c service, the easy way
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/air...ck-c-service-1
    Honda City GTG at kallar kahar
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/get...g-kallar-kahar
    2nd Honda City GTG at kallar kahar
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/get...ar-23-dec-12-a

    Thats all for now.
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    Guys please upload new Honda ASPIRE pics...Qasam se bada dil kar raha hai dekhne ko!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by fahadwizz View Post
    Well i have kind of found my problem. I replaced the fuel pump a couple of days ago and i think the guy didnt position the suction part correctly.My car stalls when i brake on lower than quarter tank of fuel.. I just realized this today on my way back from work when it drove up the bridge fine and stalled on its way down. Filled up to half a tank and the problem went away.

    Did you recently replace your fuel pump ? I am so pissed i'll have to open up the tank again to fix this annoying issue.
    yes i did!!! only about 2 months ago i got the replaced. the guy also cleaned to filter to my satisfaction. i didnt notice this issue cuz i drove mostly on level roads. only today i did the test on my garage ramp, results shook me i also used liqui moly injector cleaner after changing the pump so injectors cant be bad. all other tuning has been done recently. i dont know what went wrong. infact i have almost 40% of the tank filled, which isnt that less to cause the issue of suction part position, plus, is it possible to position it somewhere other then the stock place for it? doesnt it sit directly below the fuel pump n filter, in the city idsi?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmadbila View Post
    yes i did!!! only about 2 months ago i got the replaced. the guy also cleaned to filter to my satisfaction. i didnt notice this issue cuz i drove mostly on level roads. only today i did the test on my garage ramp, results shook me i also used liqui moly injector cleaner after changing the pump so injectors cant be bad. all other tuning has been done recently. i dont know what went wrong. infact i have almost 40% of the tank filled, which isnt that less to cause the issue of suction part position, plus, is it possible to position it somewhere other then the stock place for it? doesnt it sit directly below the fuel pump n filter, in the city idsi?
    I think fuel pumps in IDSI is accessible from under the rear seat. You can easily check it out. Before that you can try filling up a little bit more to see if the problem persist. I researched a little bit and i found that a lot of people fixed these issues by replacing the filter on the fuel pump. They call it fuel pump "sock". Its fixed to the pump with a small lock. You can try replacing the stop and also check if the pump is in the right position. Opening fuel pump on my car is a head ache....right now ill just try to keep the fuel aruond 1/2 tank

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    Quote Originally Posted by fahadwizz View Post
    I think fuel pumps in IDSI is accessible from under the rear seat. You can easily check it out. Before that you can try filling up a little bit more to see if the problem persist. I researched a little bit and i found that a lot of people fixed these issues by replacing the filter on the fuel pump. They call it fuel pump "sock". Its fixed to the pump with a small lock. You can try replacing the stop and also check if the pump is in the right position. Opening fuel pump on my car is a head ache....right now ill just try to keep the fuel aruond 1/2 tank
    no sir its located exactly below the center console, immediately behind gear lever. i do remember the sock thingy n if im not forgetting, my mechanic didnt put the sock that came with the pump, he said it wont fit. instead, he cleaned the stock one n put it back.

    anyways, i ll get a full tank of petrol n wud try then...
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    @kaaptaan mein aa gayaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, lemme read previous posts and then i will write what my mechanic said about your problem, abhi oil change karwa k aa raha hon twadi guarantee te

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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmadbila View Post
    Paa jee... kuch pata chala?

    nahi

    Quote Originally Posted by ahmadbila View Post
    theres some issue with my car too. dont know if its the fuel filter or fuel pump or the injectors. the issue is that when the car is parked on or being driven on upwards slanting, theres not enough fuel delivery to the engine, the car stalls. feels like the injectors are clogged but it has to do something with the fuel tank, as the fuel is pushed towards the back of the tank, may be it puts strain on the fuel pump. wat do u say mehmood bhai and all others?
    acha pa ji aise hai k subah aik acha khasa reply likha aap k masle ka aur sab possible issues one by one eleminate kiye aur sara ilzaam aap ki gari k fuel pump par lagaya aur jab post reply ka button press kia tu pw ko &^%#$ par gaye any ways then i left for my mechanic, had oil change and plugs cleaned rear brakes washed and adjusted, done some electrical work on my car

    back to the problem it is certainly and only your fuel pump, what have been discussed with fahad bhai above is the discussion in right direction i would say, and i explained the scenario to my mechanic too, said that if i wanna take my car to 120 on M2 on plain no problem but even i park her on garage ramp it stalls engine, he took good two moments of silence and then asked me of routine running and i replied and then after a moment he too said its only pump as you say,

    even in my opinion any other thing doesn't make any sense, go for a pump check up, or let me know i'll be returning from lahore on moday do let me know if i could be of any help.

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    Finally got the seat covers for my city. They're leatherite on sides and cloth at places where we're used to sit.
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    @noone..Like the seat covers.Kindly PM me the price and from where you got them as i too am looking for decent seat covers for my city.And these look quite decent and good.

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    Last monday honda city's heater pipe started leaking which heated the car and the Overheat light on the dashboard showed up.Took it to Honda i9 and they replaced all the heater inlet and outlet pipes.As the pipes were inaccessible they had to open the engine up.
    And kindly enough the Honda 'Special' workers messed something up in the car.On returning my driver that the speedometer isnt working and the EPS and the engine light were showing up.He again went to Honda on the next to correct the issue.

    Just for the changing of three simple pipes had to take two trips to honda workshop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by arhum1994 View Post
    Last monday honda city's heater pipe started leaking which heated the car and the Overheat light on the dashboard showed up.Took it to Honda i9 and they replaced all the heater inlet and outlet pipes.As the pipes were inaccessible they had to open the engine up.
    And kindly enough the Honda 'Special' workers messed something up in the car.On returning my driver that the speedometer isnt working and the EPS and the engine light were showing up.He again went to Honda on the next to correct the issue.

    Just for the changing of three simple pipes had to take two trips to honda workshop.
    Common problem, metal pipe at the back is a real pain. I hope ur using a good quality coolant


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    Quote Originally Posted by mahmood View Post
    @kaaptaan mein aa gayaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, lemme read previous posts and then i will write what my mechanic said about your problem, abhi oil change karwa k aa raha hon twadi guarantee te
    Paa jee mai ty shughal laya c, formula ty nai pawa leya?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mahmood View Post
    nahi



    acha pa ji aise hai k subah aik acha khasa reply likha aap k masle ka aur sab possible issues one by one eleminate kiye aur sara ilzaam aap ki gari k fuel pump par lagaya aur jab post reply ka button press kia tu pw ko &^%#$ par gaye any ways then i left for my mechanic, had oil change and plugs cleaned rear brakes washed and adjusted, done some electrical work on my car

    back to the problem it is certainly and only your fuel pump, what have been discussed with fahad bhai above is the discussion in right direction i would say, and i explained the scenario to my mechanic too, said that if i wanna take my car to 120 on M2 on plain no problem but even i park her on garage ramp it stalls engine, he took good two moments of silence and then asked me of routine running and i replied and then after a moment he too said its only pump as you say,

    even in my opinion any other thing doesn't make any sense, go for a pump check up, or let me know i'll be returning from lahore on moday do let me know if i could be of any help.

    Regards,
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    Thanks for the reply mehmood bhai but i got the fuel pump changed only a few thousand kms back n i got a brand new pump, not a used one
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    Quote Originally Posted by arhum1994 View Post
    Last monday honda city's heater pipe started leaking which heated the car and the Overheat light on the dashboard showed up.Took it to Honda i9 and they replaced all the heater inlet and outlet pipes.As the pipes were inaccessible they had to open the engine up.
    And kindly enough the Honda 'Special' workers messed something up in the car.On returning my driver that the speedometer isnt working and the EPS and the engine light were showing up.He again went to Honda on the next to correct the issue.

    Just for the changing of three simple pipes had to take two trips to honda workshop.

    Thats what i hate about Honda 3s guys... they ruin more things then they fix :/
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    salam to all the proud owners of city just purchased a 2005 city vario now want to change all the fluids including coolant ! so which 3S is the best in isb and what will be the cost ?
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    aoa guys,
    i am big fan of honda city but before 2008 new shape kinda sucks yar i want to buy honda city preferrely steermatic or any auto canu people tell in which model came the dabbas under the seats i want a auto car non cng and low mileage can u suggest me a car but local registartion and in a exchange with my dads nissan navara my big bro owns one its 06 vario manual and 45 on the clock but he wont let me drive or even sell it on me my cousin was selling but at that time i didnot had money it was marron steermatic if not in exchange atleast look for me i will buy in few days thankyou in advance
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    Quote Originally Posted by fahadwizz View Post
    hmm... what electronics can you get from khadda market... Btw r u in khi ?
    no brother me here in isloo, my home ground

    got engine oil changed today and guard filter costed me Rs. 200/=

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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmadbila View Post
    Paa jee mai ty shughal laya c, formula ty nai pawa leya?
    marwaan aalian gallan na karya karo na karya karo, i had a small round after oil change and engine feels little happy on new oil, will update in couple of days and after motorway run.

    Quote Originally Posted by ahmadbila View Post
    Thanks for the reply mehmood bhai but i got the fuel pump changed only a few thousand kms back n i got a brand new pump, not a used one
    sir ji thats whay we ask for gurantee card for new products, if they would not to fail or there shouldn't be any chances of failure then companies wont pack their new product with such documents. its just the case of being at the wrong place on the wrong time. btw what was the price of pump then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Durrani_45 View Post
    yar i want to buy honda city preferrely steermatic or any auto canu people tell in which model came the dabbas under the seats thankyou in advance
    Well those 'dabbas' came in steermatic only but my friends manual Idsl also has it as it was an earlier model.

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    The upgraded versions have those dabbas along with front hood liner and stickers on exterior of both rear doors.

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