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    Default Honda City Fan Club

    (Maintainence schedule added at the end)

    Hi guys..!!! I thought we should have a Fan club for honda city.Theres already a fourm for City but thats dedicated to city steermatic only.in this club,we shall hav steermatic,idsi,cvt nd all models of city and all their variants. Well the history of this car is somewhat like this...


    First generation (1997-2000) On january 22nd 1997,the first Honda City was launched as a sedan.The city was always made for families and not for racing or sports.Thats why they were always equiped with the latest or sometimes firsts in the market.The interior was always very comforting and the seating position is also very comfortable.It had the options of power windows,and side view mirrors for the top model though they were not there in the base model.Power steeing,front seatbelts,digital clock,AC was available in the basic model too.One the outside,it was very elegantly designed.Beautiful,handsome and decent.Under the hood,it had a 1300cc 16valve SOHC engine ,and was the first car to have 16-valve in 1300cc category.


    Second generation (2000-2003) On January 20th 2000, Honda replaced the original City of 1997 with an update.This model of city had the basic shape of its predecessor.but with new crystal head lamps at the front,power side view mirrors and a chrome lining around the rear numberplate garnish.It was the first car in pakistan to have rear crystal headlights.It had two varients. Exi and Exi-s.The Exi had manual windows and side view mirrors,body colored licence plate garnish(not chromed), semi-fabric seat covers, 165/13 tyres,black door mirrors and no high mount stop lamp.But the Exi-s had all these things in it.The outside looked more gracefull with crystal lights and some new lines on the exterior.The engine in both of them were same.But this one had Programed fuel injection(PGM-Fi).There was optional 4-speed automatic transmission available. The engine engine's maximum horse power=90/6400 and maximum torque =11.5/4700 This model was produced until 2003


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    Third generation (2003-2005) On 23rd August 2003, the third-generation Honda City was launched which had a totally new shape.It was a very stylish and aerodynamic shape introduced in pakistan for the first time.It also was the first car to introduce i-dsi (intelligence-dual and sequential ignation) and CVT (continuously variable transmission) in Pakistan.It had an engine which is higly fuel economic and was build specially for better fuel economy.This car was equipped with power windows(pinch free) , power side view mirrors, tilt adjustable steering column and yet another first,the EPS or electriconic power steering.it made the steering very very soft to turn and also it had no oil used in it so it had no maintanence required.Other featrure of this car is that its the first Euro 3 comliant car in pakistan,that means that its very low on harmful emmisions.The EURO 3 emission standard are applicable in Europe from the year 2000, they are considered to be amongst the most strict standards worldwide. The standard limits emissions to 2.1 g/kWh CO, 0.66 g/kWh HC, 5.0 g/kWh NOx, 0.1 g/kWh particles. Another striking feature is, the boot space(400ltrs).it was bigger then any local car availabe at that time.This car was basically meant for families.it had two glove compartments,a big boot,empty space under the rear seats, four glass holders,and also, a smal space provided in the two front doors.And guess what? All of these options were available in the basic version.This city was divided on just the basis of the drive-train.One was manual,and other was automatic. On the outside,this car was designed very sophisticatedly,it looked smaller than other cars in size from outside but is alot more spacious inside.the body design was an immediate hit among fans and poeple who knew somthing about this type of things.Even the side view mirrors are designed to cut through air.


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    Fourth generation (2005-present) In september 2005,the fourth generation City was released.It was basically a face-lifted version on the previous model.it is known as the City ZX in Thailand, India, the New City in Malaysia and City in Pakistan.The most significant changes are a new exterior (new front grille, new headlamps, new fog lights, newtaillights and bumpers). The front end has been extended forward by 65 mm (2.6 in) while the rear has been extended by 15 mm (0.6 in). The VTEC trim have 15 inch alloy wheels as standard equipment. Interior changes are minor but it does include an armrest for the driver.The rest remains almost same as in the previous model. The engine remains the same but the intake manifold has been modified, resulting a 10% temperature drop in the intake air temperature (IAT), the suspension has been upgraded as well. Honda City in Pakistan are using CVT gearbox for both i-DSI and VTEC variants. The CVT-VTEC 1.5L gearbox is equipped with a Simulated 7-Speed Automated Manual Transmission (AMT) using paddle shift buttons. This is very rare for a subcompact of its class.This VTEC variant was called City-steermatic.

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    Steermatic:- The steermatic is basicaly a name of a technology used in the city VTEC 1.5L model.this model had a different engine than the idsi.it had a 1.5L engine with an auto transmission.this was not any other auto transmission.its is steermatic,means that you can change gears just by push of a button on the steering wheel.this is basically used in F1 racing.It has 2 options,either you drive on fully automated CVT option,or you select a virtual manual transmission.For this,you would change the gears when you want with a push of a button.This model also have an opitiron meter and also stock imported 15" alloy rims with bridgestone Potenza tyres. This technology is very sophisticated and advanced,which,sadly was'nt accepted by the buyers in Pakistan because they simply could not understand it and hence,this particular model of city was discontined.


    I-dsi:- I-dsi stands for Intelligence-dual and sequential ignation.In this type of engine,two spark plugs are employed for each cylinder.That makes 8 spark plugs instead of 4 plugs used by most cars.Adding of an additional plug assures complete burning and utilizing the last drop of fuel thrown into the cylinders which would provide you the best performace and better fuel consumption.Not all the times the 8 plugs are working,but when u push your car through high revs or speeds,all of them work simeltaneously and thats when ypu can feel the difference.But theres one drawback in it,this engine is equiped with 8 valves not 16.Hence it decreased the performance and city seems to be out of breath after 5000RPMs,but as this is basically a family car,performance is not the priority.The best thing about this was the fuel economy,about which,you can read the paragraph below.

    Fifth generation (2009 onwards) On 31th january 2009,the fifth generation of the honda City was launched in Pakistan.Which was an immediate hit among the fans.The previous Honda City was criticised due to its shape,but this time the best thing was the shape,which is even more aerodynamic then the previous one and also resembles the big Honda brothers,Civic and Accord.The best thing about the exterior of this City is the front view of the car.The wide,sleek and elegently designed radiator grill gives a refreashing look to the car.The dimesions of the car are almost similar to those of the older model.The sharp lines on the hood gives the city some attitude on the road.The boot space is increased about 25%,from 400ltrs to 506ltrs.But the good news doesnt end there,under the hood,There is a fairly powerful 1.3L SOHC VTEC engine.which produces a healthy 100bhp,enough for a 1.3L car.But dont think that you would have to lose something on the fuel economy side to get this sort of power.The fuel economy is actually improved.Some indian car expert magzines gave the figures of 22km/ltr for the auto transmission,which is the best in its class.The emission standards are improved as well.Previous city was Euro 3 compliant,but the new city is Euro 4 compliant.which means that your car is enviornment friendly.The only thing which you need to be concered about is the interior,which feels abit cramped campared to the previous City,but there is a reason to it.In the pervious city.the hood and the trunk had only a small portion of the exterior length covered,and the cabin was much bigger,which gave nice interior space,but from outside,the car looked ugly to some eyes.To correct this ugliness,the car was redesigned with increased hood and trunk length from outside,this made it look much better but the drawback was the lesser interior space.The second thing was the missing silver portions on the interior bits and panels of the Pakistani City.The interior would have felt lively only if some spots of it would have been in silver color.But you have alot other advantages,like 15" rims,ABS as standard,vtec engine,details of fuel milage on a special screen in the speedometer,huge boot and many other small things. In a nutshel,the new Honda City is much more refined comparitively to the previous one.The basic things which matter alot have been improved like the engine and the exterior design.The ride of the car is also improved,thanks to the small changes in the suspension.All in all,its still a great package if you see it the value-for-money way in Pakistani market atleast.


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    Fuel Consumption:- The 2005 face-lifted Honda City i-DSI achieved an impressive 26.2km per liter of fuel consumption during a challenge in June 2007. The challenge requires the vehicle to be occupied by 4 persons (including the driver), air conditioning being switched on and a load of luggage. The whole route stretched more than 660km that consists of not only highway driving but also hill climbing. ==================================== Source:-My self mostly,wikipedia and Honda atlas.


    In Short:- In short,according to me,all this proves that Honda City has been a great car for a family to have at all times for more than a decade now.It has proven its self to be a complete car one would need at a price tag it is available for.An im one of the thousands of satisfied owners of it for the past one year. Now all we need are your comments and thoughts upon this small wonder.And also do make sure you post some pix of your own city if you have,of any model.Please feel free to express your feelings about this car.

    Maintainence schedule:-

    There have been a lot of queries regarding the maintainence shedule of Honda City. To help find members and guests find this information easily and quickly, i am writing the complete maintainence shedule which i have been following for the past 5 years for my car (180,000kms).Cost of completing the job may/may not be stated. Some of it may not be the same as that in maintainence book provided by Honda people. In that case, i ll state the reason of the difference.Here goes.

    Oils:-
    Havoline formula 10W30 (3.7ltr) and oil filter change @ 3000kms. Cost 1900rs

    Transmission oil (Manual transmission) 2 ltr @ 40,000kms.
    Honda original oil 1980rs (2ltr)
    Good quality Zic/ micking oil 800rs (2ltr)

    Transmission oil ( Automatic transmission) 2lre @ 35,000kms
    Honda CVT oil ONLY (3.2-3.4L.) 1980rs

    Brake oil
    Keep it topped up and change only if padel feels very soft n goes wayy down.
    Honda original oil

    Clutch operation oil
    Keep it topped up and change only if you it shows signs of trouble

    Parts change:-

    Brake pads change:-
    recommended @ 30,000kms
    Can use any good quality pads. (labour 400rs for 4 wheels plus pads, from 500rs to 2500rs)

    Fuel filter change @ 40,000kms (IF driven on petrol)

    Air filter change @ 10,000kms Original Honda filter is best.Good quality guard filter is good too.
    980rs for OEM, 350rs for Guard filter.

    Spark plugs @ 20,000kms Original Honda plugs (8 plugs for idsi. 4 for steermatic, new city ivtec and before-2003 model City)

    Timing belt. Not required. From 2003 onwards, all honda Citys have timing chains instead of belts.They usually last a life time.

    Tune-ups :-

    Throttle body service @ 20,000kms Cost around 500rs
    Tappets adjustment / valve clearence @ 20,000kms Cost around 500rs

    Brake adjustment front not required after pads change. rear @ 30,000kms (or when front pads changed)

    Expected Life of Some parts:-

    Brake pads 35,000kms if driven aggressively ( cost already mentioned)
    Clutch plate 110,000kms if driven aggressively ( around 2000rs labour and 6000rs for clutch+pressure plate)
    Clutch bearing 150,000kms (So change with clutch plate) (800rs)
    Tuneups can be delayed to 30,000kms IF the car is run in clean enviornment like in Islamabad etc (less dust)
    Engine oil change can be delays to 5,000kms but not good in long run.

    Service Manual Honda City ids-i 2003-2008:-
    http://www.putlocker.com/file/CED54F8B8FB00360

    Tip for keeping automatic transmission (Vario and steermatic) healthy on CNG:-
    Change engine oil at 3,000kms MAX.
    Tranny oil at 30,000kms
    Tune up (throttle and valve clearence) at 20,000kms
    Do NOT ignore idleing problems. Rough idleing means jerks to transmission and thats what kills it on CNG.
    Keep air filter clean and change at 10,000kms max.

    Instrument cluster cleaning DIY
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/d-i...ening-cleaning
    Console box opening and spray painting DIY
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/d-i...-respray-diy-1
    A/c service, the easy way
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/air...ck-c-service-1
    Honda City GTG at kallar kahar
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/get...g-kallar-kahar
    2nd Honda City GTG at kallar kahar
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/get...ar-23-dec-12-a

    Thats all for now.
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    brother alabaster silver is a very practical colour you wont see dirt on it even if you dont clean it for several days, in it has quite a lot of pearls but lacks a little bit on reflections. the polish metal is a balanced colour so people like it more

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    Quote Originally Posted by RN427 View Post
    Guys would you please show me some pictures of ASPIRE in Alabaster Silver colour...I am requesting you people...Its really annoying to see that very less people like Alabaster Silver colour and like the shitty colour Polish Metal!!!
    me too dont like the polish metal colour seems quite boring to me

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    can any 1 tel me because tomorrow i have to do the job done!
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    Hi city owners I'll soon be buying the upgraded version of aspire, please suggest me a colour from the following 3

    1. White
    2. Blue
    3. Black

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    Quote Originally Posted by typeN View Post
    salam to all the proud owners of city just purchased a 2005 city vario now want to change all the fluids including coolant ! so which 3S is the best in isb and what will be the cost ?
    Total cost would not exceed arnd 8000rs.
    Buy genuine honda coolant. Go for shell fully synthetic oil 5w40 alongwith oil filter change and for cvt transmission oil i will prefer honda original cvt transmission oil. Chk brake oil as well. Thats it. Abt islamabad no idea bro.

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    Hi city owners I'll soon be buying the upgraded version of aspire, please suggest me a colour from the following 3

    1. White
    2. Blue
    3. Black

    Regards

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    Blue and black if u have driver or u are very good at cleaning surface as dark colors are prone to dust alot while white rules alot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by babarhyd View Post
    Total cost would not exceed arnd 8000rs.
    Buy genuine honda coolant. Go for shell fully synthetic oil 5w40 alongwith oil filter change and for cvt transmission oil i will prefer honda original cvt transmission oil. Chk brake oil as well. Thats it. Abt islamabad no idea bro.

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    honda guys will use there honda oil or they have shell ? and oil filter too will be a honda original one?
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    Quote Originally Posted by babarhyd View Post
    Blue and black if u have driver or u are very good at cleaning surface as dark colors are prone to dust alot while white rules alot.

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    Well I used to clean my pajero my self

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    Quote Originally Posted by typeN View Post
    honda guys will use there honda oil or they have shell ? and oil filter too will be a honda original one?
    Honda guys will use there own but can i guess opt for shell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmadbila View Post
    yes i did!!! only about 2 months ago i got the replaced. the guy also cleaned to filter to my satisfaction. i didnt notice this issue cuz i drove mostly on level roads. only today i did the test on my garage ramp, results shook me i also used liqui moly injector cleaner after changing the pump so injectors cant be bad. all other tuning has been done recently. i dont know what went wrong. infact i have almost 40% of the tank filled, which isnt that less to cause the issue of suction part position, plus, is it possible to position it somewhere other then the stock place for it? doesnt it sit directly below the fuel pump n filter, in the city idsi?
    I have been through this love story in the past. First cleaned the filter and replaced nothing this was done in september last year. Worked fine till November and the problem again showed up. In december changed the injectors and cleaned the filter the situation kind of improved. Went to M-2 to test it the car did max 135 in 4th gear at that time I thought that might be the car can go no longer. Went to Karachi in march and experienced the same problem when driven on petrol and guess what just 15kms before lahore in traffic jam the car shutted off on petrol but thanks god it started and came back home, the next day took it for AC service and the cars fuel pump ultimately died. As I was nowhere near my mechanic so changed the pump with the chinese one and the mechanic also insisted to change the container as well. That was my mistake the car started making problems again after a month. Went to my old trusted mechanic and he showed to me the new unit that jerk mechanic had done juggar and the unit which was out of alignment and broken by him he used steel wire to tighten it and as the wire loosened the problem appeared. Luckily I had the old container so my mechanic did this fitted the new pump with old sock in the old container and allhamdulillah the problem is no more. After that change have driven my car more than a 1500kms on petrol on highway on every sort of terrain like salt range etc and more than 300 kms in city with AC and I have not felt any sort of problem till now even with petrol reserve light on. P.S I forgot to mention that the mechanic near the AC service wala also misplaced the rubber washer that is fitted on the outlet of the pump and it only comes with new pump from honda or kabli. Had to buy that from a mechanic for 1000rs. So always be careful from where you get the work done.
    My problem was that the car refused to move on petrol and it did not shut off but did not increase the rpms and petrol delivery was also less for climbing. Now the car climbs like a cat and easily redlines in 3rd gear, I might redline in 4th as well but I am hesitant to do that afraid of challans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RN427 View Post
    Guys would you please show me some pictures of ASPIRE in Alabaster Silver colour...I am requesting you people...Its really annoying to see that very less people like Alabaster Silver colour and like the shitty colour Polish Metal!!!
    albaster silver is a nice colour but to be honest its not THE colour if ur going for the looks. its just a safe colour which doesnt show dust on it, and that is the ONLY reason i bought mine in this colour.

    @all
    went to Lahore this weekend with family. car did fairly ok on its fuel average though i m not too happy abt it. went via GT road with 100 percent AC on and from gujranwala bypasss. after wazirabad bypass till lahore the traffic was horrible. anyways, staying within speed limits, i managed to get 19.7 kilometers per liter from the car but i was actually aiming for something better...a little better maybe.

    on the way back i came from motorway. again, AC 100 percent on and at 120 km/hr constant, even pushing the car max on hikes in order to keep the speed constant, and managed only 16.9 kilometers per liter i am on 185/65/15 Yokohama Advan dbs. last week i went to murree and came back, just for a drive, with a very very light foot, and the car gave me 20 kilometers per liter, so as compared to that, the average i got is kind of disappointing

    within lahore i got 11 kilometers per liter, again 100 percent AC on, but that is acceptable. i was stuck in some HORRIBLE traffic jams and kept the AC on for like 30 to 40 minutes at a stretch many times while having fast food or ice cream or shakes etc etc, not to add getting lost time and time again in Lahore as i have NO idea abt its routes

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    Quote Originally Posted by usmanraufraja View Post
    Hi city owners I'll soon be buying the upgraded version of aspire, please suggest me a colour from the following 3

    1. White
    2. Blue
    3. Black

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    remove the blue from list else all colours ok with polish metal at the end from my side

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    Quote Originally Posted by waleed80 View Post
    albaster silver is a nice colour but to be honest its not THE colour if ur going for the looks. its just a safe colour which doesnt show dust on it, and that is the ONLY reason i bought mine in this colour.
    golden is even more good in that n i didnt know that
    but familiar with silver as used it many times

    mileage u r getting is awsum bro
    dont forget u r running 1.3 with ac
    we can only think in dreams of such figures in cow
    1400 rs gas from isb to harp n then back with no ac these days

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    Quote Originally Posted by huzaifaa View Post
    golden is even more good in that n i didnt know that
    but familiar with silver as used it many times

    mileage u r getting is awsum bro
    dont forget u r running 1.3 with ac
    we can only think in dreams of such figures in cow
    1400 rs gas from isb to harp n then back with no ac these days
    really? well if u say so, cause i have heard few members claiming to be getting like 21 kilometers per liter on motorway with full load and this and that , so in comparison to that i was disappointed at my 16.9 ....and on GT road i was disappointed myself cause i was comparing it with the murree effort....till gujranwala, i was getting 20.2 kilometers per liter but as i said, the bypass and till kala shah kaku motorway entry the traffic was absolutely absurd, so the average fell to 19.7 till i entered Canal Road in lahore

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    Quote Originally Posted by waleed80 View Post
    albaster silver is a nice colour but to be honest its not THE colour if ur going for the looks. its just a safe colour which doesnt show dust on it, and that is the ONLY reason i bought mine in this colour.

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    went to Lahore this weekend with family. car did fairly ok on its fuel average though i m not too happy abt it. went via GT road with 100 percent AC on and from gujranwala bypasss. after wazirabad bypass till lahore the traffic was horrible. anyways, staying within speed limits, i managed to get 19.7 kilometers per liter from the car but i was actually aiming for something better...a little better maybe.

    on the way back i came from motorway. again, AC 100 percent on and at 120 km/hr constant, even pushing the car max on hikes in order to keep the speed constant, and managed only 16.9 kilometers per liter i am on 185/65/15 Yokohama Advan dbs. last week i went to murree and came back, just for a drive, with a very very light foot, and the car gave me 20 kilometers per liter, so as compared to that, the average i got is kind of disappointing

    within lahore i got 11 kilometers per liter, again 100 percent AC on, but that is acceptable. i was stuck in some HORRIBLE traffic jams and kept the AC on for like 30 to 40 minutes at a stretch many times while having fast food or ice cream or shakes etc etc, not to add getting lost time and time again in Lahore as i have NO idea abt its routes
    I would say you got decent average figures infact good ones. Would you mind sharing how many person on board and lugguage. My recent trip to Islamabad gave me 16km/ltr in a 353km run i.e 22 ltrs of petrol. But the breakup of those 353 kms is as follows
    1 From Bhera till Peshawar morr roughly 160 kms @ 130-140 km/hr with occasional speedups to 150km/hr because I was in a hurry
    2 From Peshawar morr till morgah road on gt road roughly 10kms with half a dozen signals and at 10:30am so you can imagine the traffic
    3 From Morgah road gt road to peshawar morr at 2:15 pm with double traffic
    4 From Peshawar morr till bhera rest area @ 100-110km/hr.
    We were 2 heavy people in the car 80 & 90kgs plus another one lying in the trunk so 17km/ltr is good considering you kept it a speed of 120 with occasional over speeding

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    Quote Originally Posted by waleed80 View Post
    on the way back i came from motorway. again, AC 100 percent on and at 120 km/hr constant, even pushing the car max on hikes in order to keep the speed constant, and managed only 16.9 kilometers per liter i am on 185/65/15 Yokohama Advan dbs. last week i went to murree and came back, just for a drive, with a very very light foot, and the car gave me 20 kilometers per liter, so as compared to that, the average i got is kind of disappointing
    A lower speed around 80-100 would have yielded better mileage. ISB/LHR via motorway is around 4-4.5 hours. How much time did it take via GT Road and what was the average speed there?

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    Quote Originally Posted by aa78 View Post
    A lower speed around 80-100 would have yielded better mileage. ISB/LHR via motorway is around 4-4.5 hours. How much time did it take via GT Road and what was the average speed there?
    I dont think 80-100 is the practical speed. Its only attainable if you are there to enjoy have loads of time and almost thin pocket. BTW it will give 22+ easily at that speed with AC on. Well if you maintain speed at 80-100 than M-2 is definately 4-4.5 hrs with a stop over. Otherwise if you do that at constant 120 than you can do it in 3.5-3.75 hrs with a stop.

    On Gt road I think average speed is around 70km/hr so the highway alone will take 4 hrs plus more than half a dozen toll plazas and traffic jams so it will take you around 5 hrs if you are within limits.

    So comparison is as follows: Gt road islo-lahore in 5 hrs, average at around 20km/ltr, some damage to the vehicle because of bad roads and traffic and tensing drive.

    Whereas M-2, islo- lahore in 4-4.5 hrs @ average speed of 90-100km/hr, average at around 19-20km/ltr, almost no damage to vehicle because both reasons almost absent and also tension free drive.

    So if you travel Gt road it will cost 30-60 minutes more whereas M-2 will save 30-60 minutes at cost of 4-5 litres extra petrol( due to 80kms extra). That is why I always prefer M-2 and have tension free drive at a cost of little more fuel but time + vehicle saving

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    Recently i was coming back from islamabad via M-2 and we were only 2 people, so I thought of making a video of salt range. Now the result is a complete 9+ minutes video of salt range and I think its the most comprehensive video of salt range ever made. As it was shot in a honda city idsi so I think Its relevant to post it here


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    Quote Originally Posted by a_n_memon88 View Post
    I would say you got decent average figures infact good ones. Would you mind sharing how many person on board and lugguage. My recent trip to Islamabad gave me 16km/ltr in a 353km run i.e 22 ltrs of petrol. But the breakup of those 353 kms is as follows
    1 From Bhera till Peshawar morr roughly 160 kms @ 130-140 km/hr with occasional speedups to 150km/hr because I was in a hurry
    2 From Peshawar morr till morgah road on gt road roughly 10kms with half a dozen signals and at 10:30am so you can imagine the traffic
    3 From Morgah road gt road to peshawar morr at 2:15 pm with double traffic
    4 From Peshawar morr till bhera rest area @ 100-110km/hr.
    We were 2 heavy people in the car 80 & 90kgs plus another one lying in the trunk so 17km/ltr is good considering you kept it a speed of 120 with occasional over speeding
    we were 2 adults and 2 children on board with boot half filled.

    Quote Originally Posted by aa78 View Post
    A lower speed around 80-100 would have yielded better mileage. ISB/LHR via motorway is around 4-4.5 hours. How much time did it take via GT Road and what was the average speed there?
    80-100 is way too slow on motorway. first of all, its extremely boring then and to see the cars flying by at much higher speeds. secondly, its dangerous to be driving at such speeds casue even daewoo buses clock 110 so even if u r going in the left most lane, ppl dont expect cars to be going so slow on motorway and someone can easily bang into the car. and as i said, till gujrnwala City, i was getting plus 20 with AC on. the route from there onwards brought te average down

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    Can someone guide where the Engine number is punched on L15A ? a pic/sketch will be helpful.
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