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    Default Honda City Fan Club

    (Maintainence schedule added at the end)

    Hi guys..!!! I thought we should have a Fan club for honda city.Theres already a fourm for City but thats dedicated to city steermatic only.in this club,we shall hav steermatic,idsi,cvt nd all models of city and all their variants. Well the history of this car is somewhat like this...


    First generation (1997-2000) On january 22nd 1997,the first Honda City was launched as a sedan.The city was always made for families and not for racing or sports.Thats why they were always equiped with the latest or sometimes firsts in the market.The interior was always very comforting and the seating position is also very comfortable.It had the options of power windows,and side view mirrors for the top model though they were not there in the base model.Power steeing,front seatbelts,digital clock,AC was available in the basic model too.One the outside,it was very elegantly designed.Beautiful,handsome and decent.Under the hood,it had a 1300cc 16valve SOHC engine ,and was the first car to have 16-valve in 1300cc category.


    Second generation (2000-2003) On January 20th 2000, Honda replaced the original City of 1997 with an update.This model of city had the basic shape of its predecessor.but with new crystal head lamps at the front,power side view mirrors and a chrome lining around the rear numberplate garnish.It was the first car in pakistan to have rear crystal headlights.It had two varients. Exi and Exi-s.The Exi had manual windows and side view mirrors,body colored licence plate garnish(not chromed), semi-fabric seat covers, 165/13 tyres,black door mirrors and no high mount stop lamp.But the Exi-s had all these things in it.The outside looked more gracefull with crystal lights and some new lines on the exterior.The engine in both of them were same.But this one had Programed fuel injection(PGM-Fi).There was optional 4-speed automatic transmission available. The engine engine's maximum horse power=90/6400 and maximum torque =11.5/4700 This model was produced until 2003


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    Third generation (2003-2005) On 23rd August 2003, the third-generation Honda City was launched which had a totally new shape.It was a very stylish and aerodynamic shape introduced in pakistan for the first time.It also was the first car to introduce i-dsi (intelligence-dual and sequential ignation) and CVT (continuously variable transmission) in Pakistan.It had an engine which is higly fuel economic and was build specially for better fuel economy.This car was equipped with power windows(pinch free) , power side view mirrors, tilt adjustable steering column and yet another first,the EPS or electriconic power steering.it made the steering very very soft to turn and also it had no oil used in it so it had no maintanence required.Other featrure of this car is that its the first Euro 3 comliant car in pakistan,that means that its very low on harmful emmisions.The EURO 3 emission standard are applicable in Europe from the year 2000, they are considered to be amongst the most strict standards worldwide. The standard limits emissions to 2.1 g/kWh CO, 0.66 g/kWh HC, 5.0 g/kWh NOx, 0.1 g/kWh particles. Another striking feature is, the boot space(400ltrs).it was bigger then any local car availabe at that time.This car was basically meant for families.it had two glove compartments,a big boot,empty space under the rear seats, four glass holders,and also, a smal space provided in the two front doors.And guess what? All of these options were available in the basic version.This city was divided on just the basis of the drive-train.One was manual,and other was automatic. On the outside,this car was designed very sophisticatedly,it looked smaller than other cars in size from outside but is alot more spacious inside.the body design was an immediate hit among fans and poeple who knew somthing about this type of things.Even the side view mirrors are designed to cut through air.


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    Fourth generation (2005-present) In september 2005,the fourth generation City was released.It was basically a face-lifted version on the previous model.it is known as the City ZX in Thailand, India, the New City in Malaysia and City in Pakistan.The most significant changes are a new exterior (new front grille, new headlamps, new fog lights, newtaillights and bumpers). The front end has been extended forward by 65 mm (2.6 in) while the rear has been extended by 15 mm (0.6 in). The VTEC trim have 15 inch alloy wheels as standard equipment. Interior changes are minor but it does include an armrest for the driver.The rest remains almost same as in the previous model. The engine remains the same but the intake manifold has been modified, resulting a 10% temperature drop in the intake air temperature (IAT), the suspension has been upgraded as well. Honda City in Pakistan are using CVT gearbox for both i-DSI and VTEC variants. The CVT-VTEC 1.5L gearbox is equipped with a Simulated 7-Speed Automated Manual Transmission (AMT) using paddle shift buttons. This is very rare for a subcompact of its class.This VTEC variant was called City-steermatic.

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    Steermatic:- The steermatic is basicaly a name of a technology used in the city VTEC 1.5L model.this model had a different engine than the idsi.it had a 1.5L engine with an auto transmission.this was not any other auto transmission.its is steermatic,means that you can change gears just by push of a button on the steering wheel.this is basically used in F1 racing.It has 2 options,either you drive on fully automated CVT option,or you select a virtual manual transmission.For this,you would change the gears when you want with a push of a button.This model also have an opitiron meter and also stock imported 15" alloy rims with bridgestone Potenza tyres. This technology is very sophisticated and advanced,which,sadly was'nt accepted by the buyers in Pakistan because they simply could not understand it and hence,this particular model of city was discontined.


    I-dsi:- I-dsi stands for Intelligence-dual and sequential ignation.In this type of engine,two spark plugs are employed for each cylinder.That makes 8 spark plugs instead of 4 plugs used by most cars.Adding of an additional plug assures complete burning and utilizing the last drop of fuel thrown into the cylinders which would provide you the best performace and better fuel consumption.Not all the times the 8 plugs are working,but when u push your car through high revs or speeds,all of them work simeltaneously and thats when ypu can feel the difference.But theres one drawback in it,this engine is equiped with 8 valves not 16.Hence it decreased the performance and city seems to be out of breath after 5000RPMs,but as this is basically a family car,performance is not the priority.The best thing about this was the fuel economy,about which,you can read the paragraph below.

    Fifth generation (2009 onwards) On 31th january 2009,the fifth generation of the honda City was launched in Pakistan.Which was an immediate hit among the fans.The previous Honda City was criticised due to its shape,but this time the best thing was the shape,which is even more aerodynamic then the previous one and also resembles the big Honda brothers,Civic and Accord.The best thing about the exterior of this City is the front view of the car.The wide,sleek and elegently designed radiator grill gives a refreashing look to the car.The dimesions of the car are almost similar to those of the older model.The sharp lines on the hood gives the city some attitude on the road.The boot space is increased about 25%,from 400ltrs to 506ltrs.But the good news doesnt end there,under the hood,There is a fairly powerful 1.3L SOHC VTEC engine.which produces a healthy 100bhp,enough for a 1.3L car.But dont think that you would have to lose something on the fuel economy side to get this sort of power.The fuel economy is actually improved.Some indian car expert magzines gave the figures of 22km/ltr for the auto transmission,which is the best in its class.The emission standards are improved as well.Previous city was Euro 3 compliant,but the new city is Euro 4 compliant.which means that your car is enviornment friendly.The only thing which you need to be concered about is the interior,which feels abit cramped campared to the previous City,but there is a reason to it.In the pervious city.the hood and the trunk had only a small portion of the exterior length covered,and the cabin was much bigger,which gave nice interior space,but from outside,the car looked ugly to some eyes.To correct this ugliness,the car was redesigned with increased hood and trunk length from outside,this made it look much better but the drawback was the lesser interior space.The second thing was the missing silver portions on the interior bits and panels of the Pakistani City.The interior would have felt lively only if some spots of it would have been in silver color.But you have alot other advantages,like 15" rims,ABS as standard,vtec engine,details of fuel milage on a special screen in the speedometer,huge boot and many other small things. In a nutshel,the new Honda City is much more refined comparitively to the previous one.The basic things which matter alot have been improved like the engine and the exterior design.The ride of the car is also improved,thanks to the small changes in the suspension.All in all,its still a great package if you see it the value-for-money way in Pakistani market atleast.


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    Fuel Consumption:- The 2005 face-lifted Honda City i-DSI achieved an impressive 26.2km per liter of fuel consumption during a challenge in June 2007. The challenge requires the vehicle to be occupied by 4 persons (including the driver), air conditioning being switched on and a load of luggage. The whole route stretched more than 660km that consists of not only highway driving but also hill climbing. ==================================== Source:-My self mostly,wikipedia and Honda atlas.


    In Short:- In short,according to me,all this proves that Honda City has been a great car for a family to have at all times for more than a decade now.It has proven its self to be a complete car one would need at a price tag it is available for.An im one of the thousands of satisfied owners of it for the past one year. Now all we need are your comments and thoughts upon this small wonder.And also do make sure you post some pix of your own city if you have,of any model.Please feel free to express your feelings about this car.

    Maintainence schedule:-

    There have been a lot of queries regarding the maintainence shedule of Honda City. To help find members and guests find this information easily and quickly, i am writing the complete maintainence shedule which i have been following for the past 5 years for my car (180,000kms).Cost of completing the job may/may not be stated. Some of it may not be the same as that in maintainence book provided by Honda people. In that case, i ll state the reason of the difference.Here goes.

    Oils:-
    Havoline formula 10W30 (3.7ltr) and oil filter change @ 3000kms. Cost 1900rs

    Transmission oil (Manual transmission) 2 ltr @ 40,000kms.
    Honda original oil 1980rs (2ltr)
    Good quality Zic/ micking oil 800rs (2ltr)

    Transmission oil ( Automatic transmission) 2lre @ 35,000kms
    Honda CVT oil ONLY (3.2-3.4L.) 1980rs

    Brake oil
    Keep it topped up and change only if padel feels very soft n goes wayy down.
    Honda original oil

    Clutch operation oil
    Keep it topped up and change only if you it shows signs of trouble

    Parts change:-

    Brake pads change:-
    recommended @ 30,000kms
    Can use any good quality pads. (labour 400rs for 4 wheels plus pads, from 500rs to 2500rs)

    Fuel filter change @ 40,000kms (IF driven on petrol)

    Air filter change @ 10,000kms Original Honda filter is best.Good quality guard filter is good too.
    980rs for OEM, 350rs for Guard filter.

    Spark plugs @ 20,000kms Original Honda plugs (8 plugs for idsi. 4 for steermatic, new city ivtec and before-2003 model City)

    Timing belt. Not required. From 2003 onwards, all honda Citys have timing chains instead of belts.They usually last a life time.

    Tune-ups :-

    Throttle body service @ 20,000kms Cost around 500rs
    Tappets adjustment / valve clearence @ 20,000kms Cost around 500rs

    Brake adjustment front not required after pads change. rear @ 30,000kms (or when front pads changed)

    Expected Life of Some parts:-

    Brake pads 35,000kms if driven aggressively ( cost already mentioned)
    Clutch plate 110,000kms if driven aggressively ( around 2000rs labour and 6000rs for clutch+pressure plate)
    Clutch bearing 150,000kms (So change with clutch plate) (800rs)
    Tuneups can be delayed to 30,000kms IF the car is run in clean enviornment like in Islamabad etc (less dust)
    Engine oil change can be delays to 5,000kms but not good in long run.

    Service Manual Honda City ids-i 2003-2008:-
    http://www.putlocker.com/file/CED54F8B8FB00360

    Tip for keeping automatic transmission (Vario and steermatic) healthy on CNG:-
    Change engine oil at 3,000kms MAX.
    Tranny oil at 30,000kms
    Tune up (throttle and valve clearence) at 20,000kms
    Do NOT ignore idleing problems. Rough idleing means jerks to transmission and thats what kills it on CNG.
    Keep air filter clean and change at 10,000kms max.

    Instrument cluster cleaning DIY
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/d-i...ening-cleaning
    Console box opening and spray painting DIY
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/d-i...-respray-diy-1
    A/c service, the easy way
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/air...ck-c-service-1
    Honda City GTG at kallar kahar
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/get...g-kallar-kahar
    2nd Honda City GTG at kallar kahar
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/get...ar-23-dec-12-a

    Thats all for now.
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    Assalam o Alicom Guy,

    Tomorrow Im going to buy City M/T Polish Metal Colour... I want to confirm does the New City has Driver Arm Rest? and Guy please give honest, personal experience of New City Mileage in city and Highway .. I don't beleive 26.3km/L average in 1st post of this Topic.. I have 2005 iDSI M/t it never went up 12km/l in city from starting till now!
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    Hello Honda Fans,

    I m the one of the fans too and here i have bought new city and would like to be part of Honda City Fan Club.

    suggestions n advises are welcome

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    many congratzzzzzzzzzz

    keep her stock & away from CNG
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    Dude, excellent facts sheet about Honda City, very informative. This is my first City and I have been driving this for a year and a half. So far it has been the best vehicle I have experienced as far as performance and economical is concerned. Count me in too dude !Honda City Fan Club -28084
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    Hello,

    I want to share some pictures with you, I have got Chinesse Lcd "Rock Mars" and installed back view camera in my new City.

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    @ALL
    Recently have 2 round trips from isb to bahawal pur in my 2006 city ....
    MASHALLAH, Each time, full tank gave me approx 780-820 km per tank, on driving between 110-130 km/hr on motorway and gt road .....
    MASHALLAH, I m very happy with its performance and economy.
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    Hail to the King Baeeeebay!!!!

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    Hello to all ones,
    Recently i owned new city in fascinating silver color and i am proud to buy it very nice drive and milage, I found its milesge in city like Peshawar equal and even better tahn 800 cc car(mehran). My observation for all city owners is; change the gear between 25000 to 30000 rpm, and get good mileage.
    Also i need suggestion about speakers at back doors, which one better and cost (in islamabad or peshawar).

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    @ahmadbila
    thanks a lot plz check ur mail box too...

    Quote Originally Posted by ahmadbila View Post
    @murtazee
    sorry for being late bro.

    for ur queries...here u go.

    1) this shud b a problem wid ur cng kit software(yes thats wat they call it)u need to get the software re-done to adjust when do u want ur car to switch to petrol.u can fix it at any point u want

    2)no this isnt any issue.that is the EPS warning light.EPS means Electronic Power Steering.This is a system which assists in steering the steering wheel.This is not activated until u start the car ,so it shows u that the system isnt activated yet.after u start the car,if goes off n steering get very soft. plz note that this power steering of city is very much different then normal power steerings.this one doesnt need any oil or any type of maintanence.its electrically powered.

    3) for tuning, i cant say about the professionalizm of those ppl as i havent tried them.but yes,2000rs is too much.Honda guys in sargodha charge 1000rs n wat they do is to adjust tappets and clean the throttle body.
    let me know wats the milage of ur car n when were the last tunings done(if u know) then we ll see if it needs tuning yet or not.

    4)there are lot of them.the BEST one is to not take ur car to ANY mechanic unless it gives u any problems.change ur cars plugs every 20,000kms. change gear oil every 40k kms.air filter every 10k kms.timing belt(timing chain actually) doesnt needs to be changed,so dont be concerned about it no matter how much ur car is driven.
    do not spray oil under the car after service.avoid getting the engine washed at service stations, they use a lot of water pressure which can b dangerous.wash it at home wid low pressure.

    thats all for now,ask anything else u want to know too.

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    salam 2 all.
    I have 2 issues.. firstly meri city 2007 me cabin noise ziada hai as compared 2 other city of my friend.. when driven on kacha roads etc...

    secondly.. i think k bahar ka shor ( means hawa ki noise when driving). waghera ziada hai as compared 2 corolla n civic etc...

    pls anwer both of my issues...

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    please tell share your experince/ guide me as regards to the best workshop/ mechanic for Honda in Rawalpindi/ Islamabad..................as getting work from authrize workshops is too costly.....

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    Mr Billa u refered me to this forum...............sorry to say response is so poor..........City Fans wake up

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    Quote Originally Posted by teafi99 View Post
    Hello,

    I want to share some pictures with you, I have got Chinesse Lcd "Rock Mars" and installed back view camera in my new City.

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    That looks so awesome. Dude can you please share the price. And what about the ALPINE one that came as stock with city. You sold that?

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    Dear all,
    Please tell me the price of 2010 brand new Honda City full option, top line best of all models. please guide me. I will buy it maybe

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    To vik_vik
    From you bought this nice stuff in your car and what is its price plus installing it avoid warranty

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    Friends, i want to buy city 97-2000. Kindly suggest about the maintenance cost for this model. I have heard dats honda parts are v costly. Pls also suggest regarding comfort n worth of this model.
    Car driven 100,000 km with care is better than a car driven 10,000 km with out care.

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    ^^^ bro maintenance would cost u but then again if u drive it with, it wont ask for much maintenance! its really comfortable n drive is AWESOME!
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    hello ahmadbilla:
    i was just going through ur fourm n its been great n simply amazing to read that how u help people in solving their problems n wt a big fan u r for honda city. u deserve da compliment bro.

    so, da newz is, after having all da research done, i've recently bought city 06.
    there are two probs m facing right now.

    one is that its pick is a little low on both cng n petrol which should b a lil more while driving a 1300cc car.

    2nd is a bit complicated. sometimes, while driving, its malfunction signal lits up and then on relieving da accelator n slowing da car by shifting it to first gear, car just turns off. then it takes a lil long self to start again. now the car goes on doing da same thing again n again unless or until i convert it to petrol. to counter this prob i've to drive da car to some distance on petrol. i dont know y this prob occurs in da first place.

    yar help me by solving these two probs as otherwise da car is awesome.
    waiting for your reply
    bye
    farrukh....

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    can anybody tell me what technology is used in AT of city? is it same as of civic prosmatic?

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    @farrukh
    thanx a lot for appreciating brother, i love to share my experiences with other ppl and owners of this car.i hav even recommended this car to many ppl n they r all really happy for the value they get against wat they paid for.

    as for ur problem, well, honda city idsi is certainly is a slower car then an average 1.3L car.the reason is its design of the engine.it has just 8 valves to let the air fuel mixture in and for exhaling the exhaust gases,normally,cars have 16 valves.the number of valves is decreased to improve the fuel economy.so, u ll have to live with it (even i hate this fact abt it,but as its a family sedan, its OK)

    ur 2nd problem.it can be caused due to many reasons. can u write the service history of ur car? i mean, when was the last tuning done? what jobs were done on it? how much milage ur car has n tuning is done after what intervals? only then can i diagnose the problem. but i can roughly say that ur cars' throttle body is choked and needs cleaning.or the air filter is tooo dirty.cant say lot before i get to know the facts.

    so let me know the facts n then i ll tell u.

    @imtaiz
    no, the transmission in city vario (old shape,not the new shape one) is totally different transmission as compared to the prosmatec.

    the vario, technically named CVT (continuously variable transmission) has infinite gears.it has a cone shaped cylider inside the transmission on which the belt goes up and down according to the speed of the car.so u never feel any gear changes, like in prosmatec. all u see is a constant rise in the RPM n constant acceleration.if u push the car hard, the RPM wud climb to 6000 in just the first gear range n wud stay there until u reach the top speed of the car, it wudnt fluctuate like it does in civic etc.
    here r sum vdos on youtube explaining CVT.

    YouTube - CVT explained

    YouTube - 0-100 City idsi cvt

    YouTube - New Lancer GTS CVT 0-100 km/h Drive mode
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